Why did Lennon hate cripples?
Stapler
Fattuchus
> McCartney talked alot about Lennon's spastic episodes mocking cripples.
I don't think he hated cripples. Lennon sometimes had a cruel sense
of humor.
He took pleasure in hurting people's feelings and making fun of the
elderly, sick and weak. He admitted to being an angry young man and a
person with a chip on his shoulder. I think John was bitter about his
childhood . . . . bitter about feeling rejected by both his parents,
bitter about his mother's death at a young age, and felt alienated
from middle class and upper class society. For a long time he was
angry at the world, so he tended to pick on those he perceived as
vulnerable.
Some people might say that deep down John was a very sensitive, weak
and vulnerable person, so he had this tough guy outer shell to protect
his mushy inside.
Crisstti
> McCartney talked alot about Lennon's spastic episodes mocking cripples.
Has he?, what has he said?.
iarwain
admit I have never seen that particular rock and roll move done by
anyone else. Lennon was a very unique individual.
BeatyGirl
> McCartney talked alot about Lennon's spastic episodes mocking
> cripples.
He hated morons too. I guess he would have hated you.
Frank from Deeeetroit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKqFzMOwmdE&NR=1
John does his "cripple" dance step around 7:30 into this video taken
at the Washington DC Coliseum.
Frank
cefalu 93
Stapler
The Walrus was Danny
> Lennon was a cruel one...
We used to do it at school and we didn't realise that we were actually
piss taking mentally ill people. It was just something we did. I would
guess that Lennon was just doing what he and his mates did at school.
JL did sort of hate cripples though, as did the others. Not so much
hate the actually cripples but they hated the way the front rows were
taken up with ill people and that they had to meet them and stuff. I'm
pretty sure I've seen the fabs interviewed about this. Isn't it in the
Anth vids?
Danny
Crisstti
wrote:
I don't know how conscious he (and the others) might have been about
it, but it does look quite awful now...
Crisstti
in the audience.
By the way, is any of these words considered rude, I mean "cripple" or
"disabled"?.
abby once more
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> JL did sort of hate cripples though, as did the others. Not so much
> hate the actually cripples but they hated the way the front rows were
> taken up with ill people and that they had to meet them and stuff.
A good friend of mine is severely physically disabled. He always hated
when other wheelchair bound persons thought he'd be their instant friend
just because they had the same mode of transportation as he did. He has
always made fun of others even though he's probably been made fun of
numerous times.
Stapler
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Hey sounds like a cool guy!
abby once more
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> By the way, is any of these words considered rude, I mean "cripple" or
> "disabled"?.
Cripple is an antiquated word that is generally considered offensive.
Disabled is the accepted word used to describe people with mental or
physical disabilities.
Stapler
I prefer "cripple" because it annoys the hell out of you PC-libs.
Fattuchus
wrote:
There is an interview at www.youtube.com where Lennon talks about it.
He also resented the fact that disabled people were also taken back
stage and sort of "forced on" the Beatles as if the Beatles were
supposed to be able to heal them.
Fattuchus
The word "disabled" is considered "politically correct"
today . . . .The word "crippled" is more of a mixed bag. It is OK to
use under certain circumstances, but nowadays, if an American would
see a group of handicapped or disabled people we would not call them
"a bunch of cripples." That would not be PC.
Fattuchus
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> "Crisstti" <crissttigalda...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Yes.
BeatyGirl
> I prefer "cripple" because it annoys the hell out of you PC-libs.
Stupid retard!
Crisstti
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> > "Crisstti" <crissttigalda...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> >> By the way, is any of these words considered rude, I mean "cripple" or
> >> "disabled"?.
>
> > Cripple is an antiquated word that is generally considered offensive.
> > Disabled is the accepted word used to describe people with mental or
> > physical disabilities.
>
> I prefer "cripple" because it annoys the hell out of you PC-libs.
I think political correctness is kind of annoying... but with this
kind of thing I don't think it's about political correctness, but
about basic kindness towards others...
RichL
In this country, kindness to others is decried by the right-wing nutters
as political correctness. In fact, just about anything done in this
country that acknowledges caring for people other than oneself is
decried by the right-wing nutters.
Fattuchus
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I think that's an exaggeration. As a matter of fact, people on "the
right" are the ones who urge people to be involved in private
charities rather than depending on big government hand outs.
Palin is pretty far to the right . . . . yet when she knew she was
pregnant with a Down's Syndrome baby, rather than having an abortion
which would have been the easy way out, she kept the baby and raised
it.
ermitano
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Yes, it's on the Anthology videos and I agree with you that they hated
to see ill people in the first seats. They way that Lennon invite
people to clap his hands like a "cripple" it's very funny.
I think this memory of ill people were in the mind of Paul when he had
the idea of Magical Mistery Tour and all the freaks in the bus.
SID
frequently in charity advertising. If someone wants to appear as a
"good guy" , he will have his picture taken with people in wheelchairs
or visit children's wards in hospitals. In 1968 when the Hollies
plays a show in Cleveland, Ohio they made a visit to the childrens
ward of a hospital to prove they are "Good Guys'. Of course, none of
the children knew who they where. Lennon's self-diagnosis " I am
crippled inside" was dead accurate.
Fattuchus
> Bangladesh who needed medical treatment in the US.
Another good point.
cefalu 93
John was a Libra ...loving communication with others and aesthetically
beautiful
surroundings .
But the most important Libran trait is a love of RELATIONSHIPS !
(Excuse me while I sneeze !)
("YOOOKKOOO !!! ")
His RISING sign, however ...(how we PRESENT ourselves to others,)
was Aries !
VERY FEISTY, and I think that "feistiness" spilt
over into cruelty at times .
firefly
to.
In John's barbs was a bringing of realization.
Also, John liked to make fun of people because they were weird; because he
wanted them taken away from him; he wanted to repel them and their enablers.
---firefly
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firefly
of the majority of good innocent people so they can pretend that
underpriveleged people were born in the middle class.
---firefly
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BLACKPOOLJIMMY
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John Lennon on touring and cripples:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arIJXe6daKk
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Eric Ramon
Nil
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> this must be cross-posted. Otherwise we wouldn't have so many
> brainiacs here in r-m-b.
clueless google grouper.
M C hammered
And a mebbe dats a why he was so obsessered ova Jesus, so he could a come back an HEEL dem crippler's.
"One thingya cant hide, its a when ya cripplered insides".
Nuff said