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JaxDog9120

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Even though a great (new) track. Did anybody else feel that it
sounded more like Lennon's "Imagine" era then the Fab Four?
-ManaQuake

Beatlechik

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>Even though a great (new) track. Did anybody else feel that it
>sounded more like Lennon's "Imagine" era then the Fab Four?
>-ManaQuake

This was my fave anthology song. It was _so_ beatleslike in its upbeat, love
message. John may have written it on his own (the basic theme) but it seemed
to me almost as if they had written it all together. Thier four musical styles
were so different when on their own, but when they put their minds down
together to create one joint effort, it was magic. It always will be. I've
never heard the original (johns basic version) of the song, but I agree its
totally him. On the other hand, its almost impossible to believe he wasnt
involved in its final editing the way everything compliments each other.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"We were four guys; I met Paul and I said, 'Do you wanna join me band?' And
then George joined, and then Ringo joined. We were just a band who made it
very, very big, thats all."
--John Lennon

Jeff

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No it didn't sound like Lennon's "Imagine's
era"


BUD2086

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Subject: Re: Real Love
From: beatl...@aol.com (Beatlechik)
Date: Thu, Oct 8, 1998 15:37 EDT
Message-id: <19981008153750...@ng32.aol.com>

>>This was my fave anthology song. It was _so_ beatleslike in its upbeat,
love
message. John may have written it on his own (the basic theme) but
it seemed
to me almost as if they had written it all together. Thier four
musical styles
were so different when on their own, but when they put their minds
down
together to create one joint effort, it was magic. It always will be.

>>I've never heard the original (johns basic version) of the song, but I
agree its
totally him. On the other hand, its almost impossible to believe he
wasnt
involved in its final editing the way everything compliments each
other.


Johns' demo is absolutly beautiful....
Just him at the piano......As good as The Beatle version of Real Love is, John
demo is better...

Jeff

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JS7064
you just wrote one of your best posts. I enjoyed
it. Thanks.
Jeff


JSeraf7064

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Oct 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/9/98
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>Johns' demo is absolutly beautiful....
Just him at the piano......As good as The Beatle version of Real Love is, John
demo is better...

Hey, guys... let's keep in mind thay they (Paul, George and Ringo) WANTED to
gives us one more from 'The Beatles'.

They didn't HAVE to... Certainly, the Anthology would not have suffered ONE BIT
without the 'new' songs. There was enough unreleased stuff.

Short of taking a couple of John's unfinished songs, what could they do?
Put out something totally new and call it "The Beatles"? Without John? This
would have been FAR worse. Think about this, and maybe you'll see it this way.

I like the two songs. What I like even more is the fact that the three remainig
Beatles found a way to Give us SOMETHING.

Some of John's fans look at it the wrong way, I think. It's a HUGE tribute to
John from his former mates... NOT a case stealing something from him for
themselves.

And, best of all, They found a way to resurrect John through his music, taking
just that much more away from his murderer. His bullets didn't silence the
Beatles for eternity, and did not keep them from finding a way to give us what
we wanted for nearly three decades. They found a way to take this back from
him.

It was a big gamble, and I for one am glad they took it.

What is the real reason people resent this? I think I know.

-JS

T.Uts

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Fri, Oct 09, 1998 08:22, wrote BUD2086 <mailto:bud...@aol.com>:
>Johns' demo is absolutly beautiful....
>Just him at the piano......As good as The Beatle version of Real Love is,
John
>demo is better...

Absolutely

Uts


JaxDog9120

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Dude, when I started this thread I meant no disrespect. I was just stating that
Real Love sounds a bit like "Imagine-era" John (I think). I LOVED both songs
and bought all 3 CD sets for myself. It was just a note =).
-ManaQuake

Ehtue

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> jsera...@aol.com (JSeraf7064) wrote:

>It was a big gamble, and I for one am glad they took it.
>

I, too, think it was a nice tribute. It's not like the solo versions don't
still exist.

Ehtue

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Uts <taka...@fa2.so-net.ne.jp> said:

>Yes, it was a nice "tribute", sort of. There could have been better.
>Imagine what John'd said if he herd that record? He would say "Get back,
>Paul".
>
Naaah, I think he would have thought (maybe not said) "nice of them to get
together to do this in honor of me and what we were."

Gallard

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JSeraf7064 wrote in message <19981008224132...@ng133.aol.com>...

>
>>Johns' demo is absolutly beautiful....
>Just him at the piano......As good as The Beatle version of Real Love is,
>John demo is better...


In complete agreement !

>
>Hey, guys... let's keep in mind thay they (Paul, George and Ringo) WANTED
to
>gives us one more from 'The Beatles'.
>
>They didn't HAVE to... Certainly, the Anthology would not have suffered ONE
BIT
>without the 'new' songs. There was enough unreleased stuff.
>
>Short of taking a couple of John's unfinished songs, what could they do?
>Put out something totally new and call it "The Beatles"? Without John?

YES! The songs they chose were not written during the Beatles existance as
a working band.
So why include them in The Anthology? It wasnt necessary. I don't really
know why they did.
I think it was the only way the three of them would work together again.
I don't believe George would have worked on a "Paul" song. So it was take
one of Johns
tossed off songs and fix it up and over dub, or nothing.
But I do believe they should never have had Jeff Lynne involved. George was
just afraid
Paul would take over again and run the show... No proof mind you but it's
what I believe.

Let me ask you a question...Anyone can answer... Name me one Beatle who
played on every Beatle track released.
You can't can you? Why? Because during the Beatles carreer, they often
didn't contribute to each others songs.
Take a look at the White Album. It's practically 4 solo projects packaged
as a Beatles album, using Beatles as studio musicians... So, I think if Paul
and George and Ringo wanted to
record a song and call it Beatles there is more than enough precedent for
doing it.
Personally I wish Paul George and RIngo would work on some songs... They
could call it
anything they liked... But it would sure sound nice to hear Paul and George
harmonize again.


Gallard

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Ehtue wrote in message <19981009122707...@ng86.aol.com>...

I don't know... I think he would have felt like he had given everything he
had to give to the Beatles and was lucky to get out of it with his life... I
think he would have said, If you guys wanna do some songs, then lets do
some songs... But lets not pretend we are "The Beatles" cause we aint...
The Beatles was
a mythical beast that inhabited a past that is gone.
Like old timers who get together to play baseball... They may be the same
players, but they arent, ya know?
And Lennon never cared about being honored.


Uts

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On Fri, Oct 9, 1998 6:55 PM, Ehtue <mailto:eh...@aol.com> wrote:
>I, too, think it was a nice tribute.

Yes, it was a nice "tribute", sort of. There could have been better.


Imagine what John'd said if he herd that record? He would say "Get back,
Paul".


Uts


JSeraf7064

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>JS7064
>you just wrote one of your best posts. I enjoyed it. Thanks.
>Jeff

Sometimes we'll agree, sometimes we won't.

Thanks,

-JS

JaxDog9120

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Here, here! I agree...
-Mana

Jeff

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JS
we agree alot more than you think and to me
that is what is so silly about our differences.
Our differences are generally our agreements.
Sometimes, I wish I could give you a friendly
punch in the nose just to show you how much
I like your posts. They are very well written
and I have never had a problem with most of
what you write nor with you either. I see the
humor in your posts. I feel like responding
to your posts more than I do, but you say
stuff better than me, so I don't feel the need
to add anything to them. Let me tell you though
JS, it is a weird feeling agreeing with most
of what you write and then I get clobbered
in an E.mail from you. I was stunned!!!
I just take it in fun because alot of what you say,
I could have almost written myself. It's like
a mirror staring in my face but only like if
I push the send Key, and then get a argument
from myself, and then debating what I said
wrong, and then realizing I didn't write it, and
you did, only you wrote it better. I know
this doesnt make sence, and I don't understand
it either so I just skip some of your posts
so I dont feel like I am being haunted by some
of the stuff I wish I can express, but I can't.
Especially your Lennon/Mccartney threads.
I can't speak for The Harrison threads or the
Ringo threads. Once we almost got into a
Ringo thread and the reason that I refused to
answer the question of what I started was
because of the reason's above. I wasn't going to
be haunted by that too, so I changed my mind,
got offline, and I was haunted by the thought.
I had to get the hell out of here.haha. But
seriously JS, you write some damn good posts.


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