Dandelion? Beatles backing Vocals
TheWalrusWasDanny
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Urzxg3IAWNE
Is there any evidence that the Fabs were on backing Vocs for this
song? Quite like the idea of singing it in a field of Dandelions..they
are out in the UK. You are supposed to pick Dandelions on St Georges
Day (April 24th) to make Dandelion wine.
Danny
frschoonover
wrote:
Danny
No, John and Paul did not contribute any background vocals to
Dandelion. I have this single in my collection and I do have this song
and it's B-Side We Love You(it was the other way around for the UK.
London in the USA switched it and put Dandelion as the A-side and We
Love You as the B-Side). For a long time, it was rumored that John
Lennon and Paul McCartney did background vocals on the song, but both
Mick and Keith later dismissed this as only a rumor and had no basis
in truth. Mick and Keith did confirm that John and Paul did background
vocals on We Love You. Both of these songs were released on a couple
of UK compilations such as the UK edition of Through The Past,
Darkly(Big Hits Volume 2), The Singles Collection: The London Years,
Singles 1965-1967 and Rolled Gold+ The Very Best of The Rolling
Stones(2007 Edition). Dandelion was released on the US edition of
Through The Past, Darkly(More Big Hits) and the US compilation More
Hot Rocks(Big Hits and Fazed Cookies) and Rolled Gold Volume 2: The
Very Best of The Rolling Stones(1981 release by Decca in Germany). We
Love You appears on the UK compilation album Rolled Gold: The Very
Best of The Rolling Stones(1975 Edition on UK Decca) and another
compilation that was titled We Love You.
Regarding We Love You, that was known as The Rolling Stones "jail
single". Because We Love You was recorded while Mick and Keith were in
an English jail on drug charges and were surprised that John and Paul
were in the same jail that they were in for the same reasons. With
kind permission form the courts, the rest of the band came into the
jailhouse to record the track and Mick sang the lead vocal straight on
with band as back-up. John and Paul would sing the harmonies. That is
why in the beginning of the record, you hear heavy footsteps and a
chain rattling and a lock being locked to a jail cell before the song
actually begins.
Dandelion was recorded in an actual recording studio after Mick and
Keith were bailed out awaiting a hearing on the drug charges. They
charges were later dismissed.
I hope that this helps you.Sincerely Frank R.Schoonover
frschoonover
I forgot the chart positions for these songs. We Love You hit #8 in
the UK. While in the USA, Dandelion hit #14 and We Love You hit #50.
I hope that all this information was helpful.Sincerely Frank
R.Schoonover
Stephen X. Carter
Despite what Mr (no-paragraphs) Schoonover writes, there is a small but
real possibility that John and Paul are on this track.
"We Love You" was recorded in Mid-June 1967, and John & Paul *ARE*
(despite misinformation elsewhere) on the track.
"Dandelion" was initially recorded Nov-Dec 1966, but was finished off in
the same session at Olympic that "We Love You" was recorded.
So, they (John & Paul) were there, they are on a track recorded at the
same time, so it's plausible that they are on "Dandelion".
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nowhere man
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>
> "We Love You" was recorded in Mid-June 1967, and John & Paul *ARE*
> (despite misinformation elsewhere) on the track.
>
> "Dandelion" was initially recorded Nov-Dec 1966, but was finished off in
> the same session at Olympic that "We Love You" was recorded.
>
> So, they (John & Paul) were there, they are on a track recorded at the
> same time, so it's plausible that they are on "Dandelion".
>
fascinating. Great research, Stephen.
so John and Paul were in the studio that day, at Olympic, when both tracks
were being worked-on/finished.
Stephen X. Carter
Absolutely YES.
The events in the summer of 1967 in the UK would have repercussions for
many years. One strange intersection of timelines relates to the
recording of "All You Need Is Love"
The worldwide broadcast was on Sunday June 25th 1967. It's well
recorded that Mick Jagger and Keith Richard (as he was known at that
time) were in the studio. [Take a look at Mick's amazing jacket by the
way.]
Two days later (27th) Mick & Keith were on trial in Chichester for the
Redlands drug bust. [Remember that the police had waited for George &
Patti to leave before they raided].
I find that intersection amazing - there they were in the studio but
only 2 days away from what had to have been a high stress Court
appearance.
scouser
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What about George? Was he doing backing vocals too?
nowhere man
>
> Absolutely YES.
>
> The events in the summer of 1967 in the UK would have repercussions for
> many years. One strange intersection of timelines relates to the
> recording of "All You Need Is Love"
>
> The worldwide broadcast was on Sunday June 25th 1967. It's well
> recorded that Mick Jagger and Keith Richard (as he was known at that
> time) were in the studio. [Take a look at Mick's amazing jacket by the
> way.]
>
> Two days later (27th) Mick & Keith were on trial in Chichester for the
> Redlands drug bust. [Remember that the police had waited for George &
> Patti to leave before they raided].
>
> I find that intersection amazing - there they were in the studio but
> only 2 days away from what had to have been a high stress Court
> appearance.
>
good research, Stephen.
and brings up the issue of the police and those drug raids.
as we see with modern police, in many instances the cops are liars and
plant/make up evidence.
Stephen X. Carter
<denise.t...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>What about George? Was he doing backing vocals too?
Not mentioned anywhere I know. George wasn't really well known for
doing backing vocals on other people's tracks... or was he?
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Stephen X. Carter
<publice...@mehjep.com> wrote:
>and brings up the issue of the police and those drug raids.
>
>as we see with modern police, in many instances the cops are liars and
>plant/make up evidence.
Of course remember the pointed sequence in "Anthology" where they put
the knife into Sgt Pilger and twist it slowly and with relish.....
Jales
> "Dandelion" was initially recorded Nov-Dec 1966, but was finished off in
> the same session at Olympic that "We Love You" was recorded.
>
> So, they (John & Paul) were there, they are on a track recorded at the
> same time, so it's plausible that they are on "Dandelion".
Yeah, it's very palusible that they are on Dandelion too. In fact,
both these tracks feature interesting backing vocals, a thing which
the Stones were not acknowledged for. Just take a listen to My
Obsession, for instance, and it becomes very clear why. Their best
backing vocals tracks from the sixties usually have Mick overdubbing
some parts. Later on they began using female backing singers, both on
studio and in concert...
One song that comes to my mind from their earliest albums is
Yesterday's Papers, where I think Mick and Keith sing all the vocals
and it's actually sung with confidence and on key!
frschoonover
and even e-mail address to post their baloney. This time, they did it
twice in the same thread. I guess there is nothing that I can do
regarding these forgeries. I guess that I will just have to learn to
live with them.
If anyone here has any ideas on what I can do, I will be open to them
and to give them a try. Thanks in advance.Sincerely Frank R.Schoonover
ReKvest-or
God, you're a slippery little troll, aren't you?
brilton
> On Tue, 5 Apr 2011 12:31:16 +0000 (UTC), nowhere man
> <publice...@mehjep.com> wrote:
>
>
>> and brings up the issue of the police and those drug raids.
>>
>> as we see with modern police, in many instances the cops are liars and
>> plant/make up evidence.
>
> Of course remember the pointed sequence in "Anthology" where they put
> the knife into Sgt Pilger and twist it slowly and with relish.....
It's also the only moment in the whole series where they get an outside
narrator to voice part of the story.
Stephen X. Carter
I hadn't realised that. They should have got Keith Richards to do it!
:-)
brilton
> On 4/5/2011 8:31, nowhere man wrote:
>> Stephen X. Carter<steve@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in
>> news:v00lp6d3mm8kr4m80...@4ax.com:
>>
>>>
>>> Absolutely YES.
>>>
>>> The events in the summer of 1967 in the UK would have repercussions
> for
>>> many years. One strange intersection of timelines relates to the
>>> recording of "All You Need Is Love"
>>>
>>> The worldwide broadcast was on Sunday June 25th 1967. It's well
>>> recorded that Mick Jagger and Keith Richard (as he was known at that
>>> time) were in the studio. [Take a look at Mick's amazing jacket by
> the
>>> way.]
>>>
> the
>>> Redlands drug bust. [Remember that the police had waited for
> George&
>>> Patti to leave before they raided].
>>>
>>> I find that intersection amazing - there they were in the studio but
>>> only 2 days away from what had to have been a high stress Court
>>> appearance.
>>>
>>
>>
>> good research, Stephen.
>>
>>
>> as we see with modern police, in many instances the cops are liars and
>> plant/make up evidence.
>
A pretty lame attempt at a forge, nicht wahr?
Fattuchus
> troops driven by bloodlust killed innocent civilians for fun By Allan
> Hall
>
> Wehrmacht and Luftwaffe officers 'were no better than the SS'
> Transcripts detail 'pure enjoyment' of massacring citizens
>
> Chilling confessions of PoWs captured by the British have laid bare
> the brutality and excesses of ordinary German soldiers in the Second
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> A book of transcripts to be published in Germany next week reveals how
> the honour of its old army was lost amid the frenzy to be perfect,
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>
> In the interrogation transcripts, the German soldiers speak of
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>
> Sadism: The transcripts reveal how ordinary German soldiers revelled
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> Execution: Nazi troops shoot civilians from a small Polish village in
> 1941. Accounts from German soldiers have revealed how they revelled in
> killing innocent people
> Historians Soenke Neitzel and Harald Welzer have used the
> interrogations of 13,000 German military prisoners as the basis of
> Soldiers: Diaries Of Fighting, Killing and Dying or Soldaten in
> German.
>
> The exchanges were covertly recorded by British intelligence at a
> Trent Park detention centre north of London in an attempt to find out
> whether they held strategic information useful to the Allies.
>
> The 150,000 sides of transcripts, dating from 1940 to 1945, reveal
> how the Wehrmacht was little better than the S.S. in its outlook, the
> book concludes.
>
> Their views were not confined to the Eastern Front, the most barbarous
> theatre of war, but also in raids on Britain, Italy, France and North
> Africa.
>
> Der Spiegel magazine has called the trove of interrogation reports a
> sensational find .
>
> However, in Germany it is likely to reopen old wounds. The country has
> long argued that many of its 18 million soldiers were honourable men
> who acted properly. But the accounts in the book, by Soenke Neitzel
> and Harald Welzer reveal a very different story.
> THE COLD WORDS OF WAR
So, Germany had 18 MILLION soldiers, and how many Germans were tried
for war crimes? A couple hundred? Pathetic. That's not justice. Not
at all.
We've had this off topic discussion here before at rmb . . . . some
people here feel that WW II atrocities had been committed by a small
number of Germans. But if Germany had 18 million military
people . . . . clearly it was not a small number. Germany and its
people got off too easy after WW II.
Oh, and yes, this is a forge. But thanks for telling me about this
upcoming book.
scouser
> On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 09:15:28 +0800, brilton <notl...@yacht.net> wrote:
> >On 5/04/11 8:36 PM, Stephen X. Carter wrote:
> >> On Tue, 5 Apr 2011 12:31:16 +0000 (UTC), nowhere man
>
> >>> and brings up the issue of the police and those drug raids.
>
> >>> as we see with modern police, in many instances the cops are liars and
> >>> plant/make up evidence.
>
> >> Of course remember the pointed sequence in "Anthology" where they put
> >> the knife into Sgt Pilger and twist it slowly and with relish.....
>
> >It's also the only moment in the whole series where they get an outside
> >narrator to voice part of the story.
>
> I hadn't realised that. They should have got Keith Richards to do it!
> :-)
George could've too - as he said in court he was a very tidy sort of
bloke he kept his socks in his sock drawer and his pot in his pot box
- not in a shoe box at the bottom of his cupboard where Sgt Pilcher
allegedly had Yogi find it!
>
> --
> steve.hat.stephencarter.not.com.but.net
> Nothing is Beatle Proof!!
scouser
> On Tue, 5 Apr 2011 01:03:57 -0700 (PDT), scouser
>
> >What about George? Was he doing backing vocals too?
>
> Not mentioned anywhere I know. George wasn't really well known for
> doing backing vocals on other people's tracks... or was he?
i am not sure about back then i think he did a bit with Blind Faith
and he brings to life Carl Perkins "Distance makes no difference to
Love". And didn't he make "Just Like a Woman" sound pretty during
Concerts for Bangladesh? Actually, i am surprised he didn't do more of
that because he did fab backing vocals in his day job with The Beatles
didn't he - his voice had a lovely smokey quality to it and backed
John and Paul really well. Not forgetting he was tremendous as the
George O'Hara-Smith Singers on ATMP!
>
> --
> steve.hat.stephencarter.not.com.but.net
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globular
It's also the last Rolling Stones single Andrew Loog Oldham is credited
as having produced, he was pushed away during the Satanic Majesties
sessions.
Dandelion is one of my favorite Stones songs, I'm not a huge fan of much
of their post 67 material.
I bought the More Hot Rocks cd especially to get that song, in the
bargain bin.
nowhere man
>
>
> Of course remember the pointed sequence in "Anthology" where they put
> the knife into Sgt Pilger and twist it slowly and with relish.....
>
yes, I remember that segment.
and sadly nothing ever changes - the police is still full of criminals.
RichL
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>
> A pretty lame attempt at a forge, nicht wahr?
Aren't they all?
globular
> center of the record so you needed an adapter to play them. Plus they
> revolverated faster so you needed to change the speeders or the
> singers would sound like they are belching.
>
> I hope that all this information was helpful and that you are having a
> wonderful day.Sincerely Frank R.Schoonover
>
>
They didn't seem to make them with the larger hole in Australia.
The first time I saw one was about 1981 when I bought some singles in a
specialist record store. Any singles I see now have the larger hole. I
just got a new 45 from Rhino.
How can 45 rpm be faster in the past?
frschoonover
>
> They didn't seem to make them with the larger hole in Australia.
> The first time I saw one was about 1981 when I bought some singles in a
> specialist record store. Any singles I see now have the larger hole. I
> just got a new 45 from Rhino.
> How can 45 rpm be faster in the past?
globular
That post referring to the 45 holes being larger and much faster in
the past was a forgery. I didn't write that. The posts that I did
write were when I shared some background on Dandelion and We Love You
and the second post concerning the chart positions, which I forgot to
put in my initial post. I also wrote the third post stating that I was
forged again. I also wrote this particular post concerning what you
said about the forged post.
Regarding 45 r.p.m., 45 r.p.m. is simply that, 45 r.p.m. The fastest
speed would be 78 r.p.m., which was for those old fashioned shellac
records.
I just wish I knew who was forging me and also where they are posting
from. It would be a big help if someone knew where the forged posts in
my name were coming from.
I hope that I have straightened everything out, globular.Sincerely
Frank R.Schoonover
