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Paperback Writer: What was orig. album?

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Nov 26, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/26/95
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Mark Garvin (mga...@panix.com) wrote:
: Yes, I know it's on Past Masters. But what were the original albums
: with Paperback Writer, Rain, Day Tripper, etc.?

None of the tracks you mentioned were on the original British albums,
which explains their inclusion in PAST MASTERS. As for the American albums,
"Day Tripper" was on YESTERDAY...AND TODAY. "Paperback Writer" and "Rain"
was on HEY JUDE.
Early on, The Beatles and George Martin decided to issue singles which
would not be included on the original albums to give Beatle fans for value
for their money. Otherwise, they felt like they were ripping off the
public. In America, singles were used to promote the albums the songs were
in. That's why nearly every single was included in an American Beatle LP.

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gfl...@iavbbs.com (Gary Flinn)

NealK

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Nov 26, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/26/95
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<<Early on, The Beatles and George Martin decided to issue singles which
would not be included on the original albums to give Beatle fans for value
for their money. Otherwise, they felt like they were ripping off the
public. In America, singles were used to promote the albums the songs
were
in. That's why nearly every single was included in an American Beatle
LP.>>

Yes.

I think it would be fair to say -- that is, I _think_ it would be fair to
say that in America, people _did_ expect to find hit records on albums. At
least as I recall, there were those of us who bought singles and those of
us who bought albums -- no matter the artist -- but fewer who bought both
singles and albums. I know that I and more than a few of my friends stuck
mainly to albums; we simply couldn't afford to buy both, even though
singles were 39c and albums were $1.88-2.72. That was a whole heck of a
lot of money for most 12-year-olds in those days. By the time I was 16, my
friends and I were buying every piece of vinyl that said "The Beatles,"
and I had already established a semi-regular mail relationship with a
British record store to try and make sure I wasn't missing anything. Those
really were the days. ROFLMAO!!

Anyone else?

Neal

Andre Leclerc

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Nov 26, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/26/95
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In article <499l36$e...@panix2.panix.com>, mga...@panix.com (Mark Garvin) wrote:

> Yes, I know it's on Past Masters. But what were the original albums
> with Paperback Writer, Rain, Day Tripper, etc.?
>

> MG

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I used to have the entire Beatles record collection and I lost it, argh!
So I am telling this from memory.

In North America, those three songs were packaged together, along with
"Yesterday", "Dr. Robert", "I'm Only Sleeping", "Nowhere Man", "If I
Needed Someone", etc., in an album titled, "The Beatles, Yesterday and
Today".

There was no such album in the UK, however. There, PW, Rain and DT were
released only as singles if I'm not mistaken.

In North America, Capitol would take songs out of original UK albums and
repackage them in separate compilations* along with other songs originally
released as singles. For instance, the American release of Rubber Soul
didn't include "If I Needed Someone" and "Nowhere Man". And you now what?
I've always thought the American versions of Rubber Soul and Revolver were
much tighter stylistically because of that.

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* But they didn't dare mess around with Sgt. Pepper, thank God!

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André Leclerc
(ale...@cam.org)

Tony Quinn

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Nov 26, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/26/95
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Mark Garvin (mga...@panix.com) wrote:
: Yes, I know it's on Past Masters. But what were the original albums
: with Paperback Writer, Rain, Day Tripper, etc.?

There weren't any....... they were all singles.......


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Michael Shoshani

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Nov 26, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/26/95
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as far as Neal's comments go:

Records were originally "singles" on 78s. That's it, end of discussion.
In the 1930s, Album sets came out for symphonies and whatnot, but it wasn't
really until the 40s that American record companies got a brainstorm:
They would take the biggest selling 78s of a band, and re-press those records
and issue them bound into book form. The first "albums" were, essentially,
78-RPM singles collected into a book much like a photo album.

As the Long-Playing record came into vogue, the practice became to issue
singles, then collect the best-selling singles (78s, later 45s) onto
a long-playing album. Thus you have the early "Greatest Hits" albums,
which were collections of singles. This was done probably until the mid 70s,
when the situation was reversed: an album would be issued, and certain
songs would be "spun-off" for single release--in hopes of selling the
entire album. This is still the system we have today, with "CD-Singles"
and "CasSingles" used to promote longer cassettes and CDs.


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Rob McIvor

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Nov 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/27/95
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mga...@panix.com (Mark Garvin) wrote:
>Yes, I know it's on Past Masters. But what were the original albums
>with Paperback Writer, Rain, Day Tripper, etc.?
>
The first two were recorded during the sessions for Revolver but issued as
a single in advance of the album and so not included. Day Tripper came
from the Rubber Sould sessions and came out as a single on the same day as
the album, along with We can Work it Out.

NB These are British releases - I know that in the US, Capitol scrambled
the material up to Pepper by putting out shortened versions of the albums
(ie, getting more albums out of the same amount of music).>MG

David Rawcliffe

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Nov 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/27/95
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> None of the tracks you mentioned were on the original British albums,
>which explains their inclusion in PAST MASTERS. As for the American albums,
>"Day Tripper" was on YESTERDAY...AND TODAY. "Paperback Writer" and "Rain"
>was on HEY JUDE.

Does anyone in this newsgroup know where I can lay my hands on copies of
the above two US albums; either viynl or CD - old or re-issued?

David Rawcliffe da...@shankly.demon.co.uk
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Stephen Drake

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Nov 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/28/95
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IAV User Account (gflinn@I_should_put_my_domain_in_etc_NNTP_INEWS_DOMAIN) wrote:
: None of the tracks you mentioned were on the original British albums,

: which explains their inclusion in PAST MASTERS. As for the American albums,
: "Day Tripper" was on YESTERDAY...AND TODAY. "Paperback Writer" and "Rain"
: was on HEY JUDE.

Actually, the correct name of the HEY JUDE album is THE BEATLES AGAIN.

-Stephen

Roger Reini

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Nov 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/28/95
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mga...@panix.com (Mark Garvin) wrote:
>Yes, I know it's on Past Masters. But what were the original albums
>with Paperback Writer, Rain, Day Tripper, etc.?
>
>MG

That's just it -- they *weren't* on any official album (UK album, that is).

In the US, "Day Tripper" was on YESTERDAY & TODAY; "Paperback Writer" and
"Rain" were on HEY JUDE.

Roger (rre...@wwnet.com)
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