Anyone hear Sean on Howard Stern?
jen
makes fun of Yoko all the time, but has he ever taken shots at Sean?
UsurperTom
>I didn't hear it but he was ripped to shreds on the Stern ng.
I'm surprised that Sean appeared on Stern's show. I'd love to see the
transcript.
Tom
michael constantine
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> I didn't hear it but he was ripped to shreds on the Stern ng. I know
Stern
> makes fun of Yoko all the time, but has he ever taken shots at Sean?
>
>
He didn't like Sean's music....and Sean came off like a complete ass on the
show because he took Howard's opinion personally.
Steve
Howard knows this guy Hunter who lives out in Los Angeles. Somehow he
gets to hang out with celebrities all the time. This morning Hunter
called in and said he was at Sean Lennon's house hanging out. Sean and
his girlfriend Bijou were both there. Howard wanted to talk to Sean so
Hunter spent a few minutes trying to get him on the phone. After 5
minutes or so he finally got on the phone. Howard then interviewed
Sean for a few minutes. The main problem Howard had was Sean cursing
over and over again even after Howard asked him to stop. He kept
saying the F-word over and over. Howard wanted to talk to Sean about
his great life but Sean told him it's not all that Howard thinks it
is. He told Howard that his perception of his life is all wrong. He
said his mother Yoko isn't as controlling as Howard thinks she is.
Sean also said that Howard is wrong about Julian not getting any of
his father's inheritance too. Sean said he thinks that Julian will get
more of the money than he will eventually.
Howard kept saying that Sean doesn't have to really work for anything
in his life because his mother has Beatles money and she'll pay the
bills. He said that he's trying to get his music career going so he
can make his own money.
Sean and Howard got into an argument about the FCC rules about cursing
on the air. Sean said he thought Howard was a rebel and he curses on
the show more. Howard had to explain to him that there are rules and
he has to obey them because he has to make a living doing what he
does. Robin told Sean that's the difference between the two of them.
Howard has to work for his money so he has to obey rules. Sean refused
to listen to them and continued to curse which showed how he doesn't
seem to care about following rules.
Howard said that he saw Sean at a party one time and neither of them
went up to each other. Sean thought that Howard didn't like him
because he goofs on his music. Howard told him just because he doesn't
like his music doesn't mean that he doesn't like him as a person. Both
of them said that they could hang out with each other if they meet
somewhere sometime. Howard told Sean that he shouldn't be afraid to
come up to him at a party. Sean told Howard he could hang with him out
in L.A. next time he's there. Howard had to take a break because he'd
gone so long talking to Sean. Plus, Sean was still cursing and he
couldn't let that go on much longer.
Mister Charlie
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Thanks for the blow by blow.
Good for Sean.
michael constantine
"Mister Charlie" <wid...@angelfire.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks for the blow by blow.
>
> Good for Sean.
>
>
Hardly....Sean came off like a complete ass. Would you dislike someone if
they didn't like your music?
Donz5
>He didn't like Sean's music....and Sean came off like a complete ass on the
>show because he took Howard's opinion personally.
I didn't hear the interview, so I can't speak to how Sean came across. But it's
tough _not_ to take something personally when someone publicly dismisses your
music.
Mister Charlie
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And your mother. And your situation financially (not like Howie doesn't
have a few bucks in his pocket...'needs to make a living' my ass....it's
simply an ego outlet for him).
michael constantine
So what are the chances of *everyone* liking your music?
You have to be objective and realize there are those that won't.
michael constantine
BlackMonk
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If they made a point of publically trashing it, probably.
If they made a point of publically insulting my mother, definitely.
>
michael constantine
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So if you get a bad review you hate the reviewer or do not care and move on?
BlackMonk
There's a difference between giving him a bad review and trashing him at
every opportunity or making a point of bringing him up in order to trash
him.
>
Donz5
>So what are the chances of *everyone* liking your music?
>You have to be objective and realize there are those that won't.
Let me suggest this -- you put your music out to the world and we can all see
how you react when someone, as Tom wrote, publicly trashes it and then wants to
talk to you live on the phone over the air.
Not how you _would probably react;_ that's just a hypothetical. Get your music
out, wait for Stern's review and his subsequent phone call, and then get back
to us.
Until then, you will have no authority to dictate how one should respond.
michael constantine
That didn't happen....Howard played Sean's album a while back and said he
didn't like it. I can't think of too many times that Howard has brought up
his name.
michael constantine
How about this.....have you ever done something creative and had a frind say
they didn't like it? Would you dismiss your friend?
Where do you get that I'm "dictating" how someone should respond?
Donz5
>How about this.....have you ever done something creative and had a frind say
>they didn't like it? Would you dismiss your friend?
>Where do you get that I'm "dictating" how someone should respond?
(1) Yes - friends are people you trust, not radio broadcasters who like to
insult you publicly; (2) no; and (3) I'll refer to your own post:
"You have to be objective and realize there are those that won't [like your
music]."
michael constantine
> michael constantine wrote:
>
> >How about this.....have you ever done something creative and had a frind
say
> >they didn't like it? Would you dismiss your friend?
> >Where do you get that I'm "dictating" how someone should respond?
>
> (1) Yes - friends are people you trust, not radio broadcasters who like to
> insult you publicly; (2) no; and (3) I'll refer to your own post:
Howard didn't insult him...Did you hear his review of the album?
michael constantine
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>
> X-No-Archive: yes> news:ab139f$e6a12$1...@ID-81922.news.dfncis.de...
> isn't Sean's friend. And secondly, he acts the way he does because it's
> good for the ratings, not because he cares about who he's criticising.
Point is....it's all opinion.
Donz5
You asked me how I'd react to a friend's criticism of my music. Which is far
different than the scenario already described several times in Stern's case.
BlackMonk
He's done it enough, though. The time he had Julian as a guest comes to
mind.
Besides, he does constantly trash Yoko, which should be enough reason for
Sean to think he's an asshole.
>
BlackMonk
>
> "Donz5" <do...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20020504123957...@mb-mq.aol.com...
> > michael constantine wrote:
> >
> > >So what are the chances of *everyone* liking your music?
> > >You have to be objective and realize there are those that won't.
> >
> > Let me suggest this -- you put your music out to the world and we can
all
> see
> > how you react when someone, as Tom wrote, publicly trashes it and then
> wants to
> > talk to you live on the phone over the air.
> >
> > Not how you _would probably react;_ that's just a hypothetical. Get your
> music
> > out, wait for Stern's review and his subsequent phone call, and then get
> back
> > to us.
> >
> > Until then, you will have no authority to dictate how one should
respond.
>
> How about this.....have you ever done something creative and had a frind
say
> they didn't like it?
Yes
Would you dismiss your friend?
No
But they didn't do it in public, they didn't do it after insulting my mother
(and, if I remember correctly, my current girlfriend), and they didn't do it
repeatedly.
Besides, Howard and Sean aren't friends.
BlackMonk
Don't you think that his comments about Sean's relationship with Yuka Honda
were insulting? How about Howard's remarks about Sean not having to work for
a living? (especially with Robin's lie about Howard having to work.)
>
michael constantine
When he played Sean's album the strongest commen he made was that he sounded
like a girl....that's hardly trashing him.
>
> Besides, he does constantly trash Yoko, which should be enough reason for
> Sean to think he's an asshole.
>
Sean must think a lot of people are assholes....
michael constantine
That''s fine....you answered it....but the question remains...did you hear
it?
michael constantine
Not at all.......and it's true....he doesn't. have to work.......
michael constantine
Right....point being it's all opinion.
BlackMonk
And he made stronger comments afterwards.
> >
> > Besides, he does constantly trash Yoko, which should be enough reason
for
> > Sean to think he's an asshole.
> >
>
> Sean must think a lot of people are assholes....
>
Probably. And he's perfectly justified in doing so. This IS his mother we're
talking about.
>
BlackMonk
Neither does Howard.
>
>
>
michael constantine
Hard to say not knowing what he pays Alison.
Donz5
>That''s fine....you answered it....but the question >remains...did you hear
it?
I addressed that in my initial post. I didn't, and so I was not equipped to
comment on the specific event. What I did respond to was your post re taking
criticisim personally.
michael constantine
Well, there was nothing there to take personally....
Donz5
>Well, there was nothing there to take personally....
And we return full circle.
michael constantine
> michael constantine wrote:
>
> >Well, there was nothing there to take personally....
>
> And we return full circle.
Indeed we do.
BlackMonk
You're ignoring all subsequent comments though.
>
BlackMonk
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us.
> ;>)
>
Another last word on the subject? :)
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>
Like what??
michael constantine
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>
> news:ab1gig$ehe0h$1...@ID-133514.news.dfncis.de...
> >
us.
> ;>)
What a silly comment...
michael constantine
"AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs" <AllYourBaseAreB...@newsguy.com>
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> On Sat, 4 May 2002 13:37:53 -0400, in article
> <ab16ke$edhuu$1...@ID-133514.news.dfncis.de>, "BlackMonk" stated:
>
> >> > Don't you think that his comments about Sean's relationship with Yuka
> >> Honda
> >> > were insulting? How about Howard's remarks about Sean not having to
work
> >> for
> >> > a living? (especially with Robin's lie about Howard having to work.)
> >> >
> >>
> >> Not at all.......and it's true....he doesn't. have to work.......
> >
> >Neither does Howard.
>
>
other. At
> least in Howard's case, he's shown some hints of something that could be
called
> talent over the years, although not lately.
>
> interstate5
>
What changed?
BlackMonk
"garbage" when Julian was on, also saying that Julian got the musical
talent. I'd consider calling Sean untalented was personal.
I think he also at some point said there was something wrong with Sean
dating Yuka Honda, but I can't find a transcript of that.
BlackMonk
"AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs" <AllYourBaseAreB...@newsguy.com>
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> On Sat, 4 May 2002 13:37:53 -0400, in article
> <ab16ke$edhuu$1...@ID-133514.news.dfncis.de>, "BlackMonk" stated:
>
> >> Honda
> >> > were insulting? How about Howard's remarks about Sean not having to
work
> >> for
> >> > a living? (especially with Robin's lie about Howard having to work.)
> >> >
> >>
> >> Not at all.......and it's true....he doesn't. have to work.......
> >
> >Neither does Howard.
>
>
other. At
> least in Howard's case, he's shown some hints of something that could be
called
> talent over the years, although not lately.
>
About as much as Sean has. Howard is occasionally funny, Sean is a good
bassist.
> interstate5
>
michael constantine
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All well and good...that was Howards *opinion* which he is entitled
to......hardly personal....and to dislike someone for that is insane...why
even care about that?
michael constantine
A good bassist doesn't guarantee a good album.
BlackMonk
So what if it was his "opinion?" Those are still insults. As Lou Reed said,
" Can you imagine putting a year of your life into an album and having some
asshole in the Village Voice give you a B-?"
And I suspect you'd get offended if someone publicly expressed the opinion
that your mother was a witch.
>
>
BlackMonk
That wasn't what I was talking about here. I was comparing the relative
levels of talent.
>
michael constantine
So what?....you release an album and not only are there critics in the
papers...there is world of mouth which is critisim in itself.....and you
better damn well be ready for it.
>
> And I suspect you'd get offended if someone publicly expressed the opinion
> that your mother was a witch.
>
>
I'm sure there were people that didn't like my mother....who cares what
their opinion was....it's an opinion which everyone is entitled to and I
sure don't judge people by opinion alone....
>
> >
> >
>
>
michael constantine
So do you think Sean's album was a good album?
BlackMonk
What I heard didn't make an impression on me one way or the other. I
wouldn't call it great, I wouldn't call it crap.
But he is good bassist.
>
Jones
pussies. They whine. Why aren't I famous? Where's my money, where's my
glory? Dylan has a couple of lines: Helpless like a rich man's child.
Crying like a fire in the sun. They're like that.
I heard the interview and there was an undercurrent of antagonism
between them. Stern dragged his own ass up the greasy pole and made his
own success--like John Lennon and friends. It was a self made man
needling an a rich boy dilettante who doesn't support himself bawling
from the doorstep of the house he can't afford.
Yoko is more self made than any half-Lennon. Ringo could kick both boys'
asses and I wish he would.
Timothy J
paramucho
wrote:
>I didn't hear it but he was ripped to shreds on the Stern ng. I know Stern
>makes fun of Yoko all the time, but has he ever taken shots at Sean?
The only place I ever heard about Howard Stern is RMB. He sounds like
a jerk to me, but of course, he might be a sweet, loving, tender
individual who just has problems getting it out.
Ian
michael constantine
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I would think that you would have to give him a good listen before you offer
an opinion.
Candy Colored Monk
i suppose you're the type of moron who would pick up a piece of dogshit and
chew on it before he could say it tasted like shit.
michael constantine
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Hmmmm...looks like shit...smells like shite....tastes like shit...glad I
didn't step in it!
Candy Colored Monkster
speaking of shit, say hi! to abby for me.:)
michael constantine
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SpiderManWeb2002
>
>Good for Sean.
Good for Howard. Sean is a pussy
Mister Charlie
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> >Thanks for the blow by blow.
> >
> >Good for Sean.
>
> Good for Howard. Sean is a pussy
Probably, but Howard is a dick.
michael constantine
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Mister Charlie
michael constantine
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> Why do you ask?
>
Just wondering.....do you like him as an interviewer?
Mister Charlie
into a pissing contest with Stern fans.
Mister Charlie
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> >
Oops...heehee ... unintended, but for the sharp Kavis eye it may have
gone unnoticed.
>
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> >
> > Charlie Gauger
>
> Right on Charlie! And jews too!
Marek, I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire, unless some way I
could excrete gasoline.
>
Sean Carroll
<wid...@angelfire.com> wrote:
>"jweb" <du...@noreply.com> wrote in message
>> Right on Charlie! And jews too!
>Marek, I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire, unless some way I
>could excrete gasoline.
Ouch! I still don't think it would be a good idea, even in that case,
Chuck. *Especially* in that case. ;)
Ever seen what happens when someone pees on an electric fence, or in a
stream with candirū fish? ;P
michael constantine
> My views on him have been well expressed before here. I'm not going to
get
> into a pissing contest with Stern fans.
>
I don't think that's what would happen here...I think I could make a good
argument that Howard is the new free format radio...and since you remember
the wonderful days of truefree format radio I thought it would make for
interesting discussion.
Mister Charlie
"Sean Carroll" <se...@katido.com> wrote in message
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Clearly I had not thought that one through!!!!
Mister Charlie
>Date: 5/5/2002 5:41 PM Pacific Standard Time
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>
>
>"Mister Charlie" <tenseven...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>> My views on him have been well expressed before here. I'm not going to
>get
>> into a pissing contest with Stern fans.
>>
>
>I don't think that's what would happen here...
It's al been done before. It's exactly how it happened. This is a Beatles
group.
I think I could make a good
>argument that Howard is the new free format radio...
He isn't the new anything. He's been in this biz 20 years. Hardly new.
and since you remember
>the wonderful days of truefree format radio I thought it would make for
>interesting discussion.
Nah, he's just a dick, what can I tell ya?
;-)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
BlackMonk
I think you'd be on even shakier ground than you would be by saying Howard's
not a dick.
Does he play any music at all? If so, when's the last time he played a band
who wasn't signed to a major label, or one who put out their own recordings,
or a Jazz artist?
michael constantine
> >Subject: Re: Anyone hear Sean on Howard Stern?
> >From: "michael constantine" nume...@hotmail.com
> >Date: 5/5/2002 5:41 PM Pacific Standard Time
> >Message-id: <ab490m$egt1u$1...@ID-81922.news.dfncis.de>
> >the wonderful days of truefree format radio I thought it would make for
> >interesting discussion.
>
> Nah, he's just a dick, what can I tell ya?
Can't say I didn't try....
Mister Charlie
>Message-id: <ab6pv7$fihg7$1...@ID-81922.news.dfncis.de>
No one asked ya to.
Teddy
Why does it not surprise me that Constantpain would be a Howard Stern fan?
BlackMonk
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the facts that he's a dickhead?.;)
Paul Weiss
>>I didn't hear it but he was ripped to shreds on >>the Stern ng. I know
Stern makes fun of >>Yoko all the time, but has he ever taken >>
>>shots at Sean?
Brat!
Paul Weiss
nume...@hotmail.com (michael constantine)
>>"BlackMonk" <Blac...@email.msn.com> >>wrote in message
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">>BlackMonk" <Blac...@email.msn.com> >>wrote in message
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>>Good for Sean.
>>someone
>>if
>>they didn't like your music?
No.
nuit
better than Hunter, and yes, I hate dislike anyone whom critiques anythign I
do artistically in such a negative manner.. AND he ( Sean) said FUCK alot
and it got through the censors!! No one could get way with that.. !! No one
, except John Lennon's son.. it was a real moment in radio history..
tyre
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Robert Shauna
tlcr...@webtv.net (Jones) wrote:
>>I'm going to call the kettle black here: both of Lennon's sons are
pussies. They whine. Why aren't I famous? Where's my money, where's my
glory? Dylan has a couple of lines: Helpless like a rich man's child.
Crying like a fire in the sun. They're like that.
I heard the interview and there was an undercurrent of antagonism
between them. Stern dragged his own ass up the greasy pole and made his
own success--like John Lennon and friends. It was a self made man
needling an a rich boy dilettante who doesn't support himself bawling
from the doorstep of the house he can't afford.
Yoko is more self made than any half-Lennon. Ringo could kick both boys'
asses and I wish he would<<
Me also
michael constantine
That's exactly why I tried.
michael constantine
What makes you think that, dahling?
michael constantine
"BlackMonk" <preten...@monk.commie> wrote in message
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BlackMonk
> X-No-Archive: yes
> > stream with candirū fish? ;P
> >
>
>
> Aren't I so cool the way I obsess over him? And how I judge other men's
looks!
marek isnt a man.
Leo Soyland
Mister Charlie
>Message-id: <ab9bul$gbtui$1...@ID-81922.news.dfncis.de>
??
<shrug>
BlackMonk
cos you're a dickhead?
michael constantine
"BlackMonk" <preten...@monk.commie> wrote in message
Nope...that's not it....give it another go?
BlackMonk
no, that *is * it, dickhead.....:)
michael constantine
"BlackMonk" <preten...@monk.commie> wrote in message
JoshuaBlue
> >
> > Good for Sean.
> >
> >
>
> Hardly....Sean came off like a complete ass. Would you dislike someone if
> they didn't like your music?
probably. but howerd stern clearly has no taste in music, so he
shouldnt let that bother him.
-josh