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^R^A^J^A^

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May 31, 2007, 1:15:20 AM5/31/07
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The 10 best years for classic rock were between 1966-75. Beatles
released their first two classic albums in 1966 and Zeppelin released
their last classic album in 75. These were the golden years for
classic rock. If we are to assign the years to certain band, I would
chose these.

1966 - Beach Boys (Pet Sounds)
Beatles (Rubber Soul, Revolver)
1967 - Beatles (Sgt Pepper Lonely Hearts Club Band, Magical Mystery
Tour),
Moody Blues (Days of Future Passed)
Pink Floyd (The Piper at the Gates of Dawn)
1968 - Beatles (White Album)
Rolling Stones (Beggars Banquet)
1969 - Beatles (Abbey Road)
Led Zeppelin (Led Zeppelin and Led Zeppelin II)
1970 - Led Zeppelin (Led Zeppelin III)
Who (Whos Next)
1971 - Led Zeppelin (Led Zeppelin IV)
1972 - Deep Purple (Machine Head)
Yes (Fragile and Close to the Edge)
1973 - Pink Floyd (The Dark Side Of the Moon)
1974 - Yes (Tales From Topographic Oceans and Relayer)
1975 - Led Zeppelin (Physical Graffiti)
Queen (A Night At the Opera)

Grinner

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May 31, 2007, 1:40:48 AM5/31/07
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> 1974 - Yes (Tales From Topographic Oceans

LOL !


RichL

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May 31, 2007, 1:54:19 AM5/31/07
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More trolling. If you want the real story, check out this site:
http://www.theofficialcharts.com/all_the_no1_albums.php
You can look up the #1 charting album for each week in any year. Some
details below:

"^R^A^J^A^" <zepf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> The 10 best years for classic rock were between 1966-75. Beatles
> released their first two classic albums in 1966 and Zeppelin released
> their last classic album in 75. These were the golden years for
> classic rock. If we are to assign the years to certain band, I would
> chose these.
>
> 1966 - Beach Boys (Pet Sounds)
> Beatles (Rubber Soul, Revolver)

The number one album for the most weeks was the soundtrack for "The Sound of
Music", followed by the Stones' "Aftermath"

> 1967 - Beatles (Sgt Pepper Lonely Hearts Club Band, Magical Mystery
> Tour),
> Moody Blues (Days of Future Passed)
> Pink Floyd (The Piper at the Gates of Dawn)

"Pepper" is tops the most; the only other rock albums are by The Monkees.

> 1968 - Beatles (White Album)
> Rolling Stones (Beggars Banquet)

Dylan's "John Wesley Harding" is tops, with the White Album in second place.
"Beggar's Banquet" didn't make the list.

> 1969 - Beatles (Abbey Road)
> Led Zeppelin (Led Zeppelin and Led Zeppelin II)

Zep didn't make the list with either album. Dylan ("Nashville Skyline"),
Jethro Tull ("Stand Up"), and Cream ("Goodbye") did.

> 1970 - Led Zeppelin (Led Zeppelin III)
> Who (Whos Next)

Tops is Simon and Garfunkel, "Bridge over Troubled Water", by a landslide.
No Who.

> 1971 - Led Zeppelin (Led Zeppelin IV)

S&G tops with 9 weeks, followed closely by George Harrison with "All Things
Must Pass" at 8 weeks. T Rex, "Electric Warrior", 6 weeks. LZ IV has 2
weeks at the top.

> 1972 - Deep Purple (Machine Head)
> Yes (Fragile and Close to the Edge)

T Rex again. (searches the list in vain for Yes)

> 1973 - Pink Floyd (The Dark Side Of the Moon)

Of straight rock, David Bowie is tops at 5 weeks with "Pin-Ups". Elton John
is tops overall. No Floyd.

> 1974 - Yes (Tales From Topographic Oceans and Relayer)

In rock, Paul McCartney and Wings are tops with "Band on the Run" at 7
weeks. Overall, the Carpenters and Elton John are at the top. Yes gets 2
weeks for "Tales". No "Relayer".

> 1975 - Led Zeppelin (Physical Graffiti)
> Queen (A Night At the Opera)

Tops in Rock is Rod Stewart with "Atlantic Crossing". "Night" gets 2 weeks,
"Graffiti" 1 week.

Live by the sword, die by the sword.
Ya gotta get out more.


w

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May 31, 2007, 2:11:30 AM5/31/07
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On Thu, 31 May 2007 15:40:48 +1000, Grinner wrote:

>> 1974 - Yes (Tales From Topographic Oceans)
> LOL !

NYUKLES !!

Grinner

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"w" <TrollFukk...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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HEHE. It would have to be the most self indulgent drivel ever pissed through
a speaker, at least you can listen to Pink Floyd's soundscape 20 minute
songs. That album had about 10 minutes worth of decent music - on four
sides. Oh, and a little pretty cover. It sucked like nothing else could.
After that they got rid of Wakeman and got Moraz in for arguably the best
album they ever did - Relayer.


Grinner

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May 31, 2007, 4:08:52 AM5/31/07
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"RichL" <rple...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> More trolling. If you want the real story, check out this site:
> http://www.theofficialcharts.com/all_the_no1_albums.php
> You can look up the #1 charting album for each week in any year. Some
> details below:

Rich, RAJA only posts to get himsalef a new asshole ripped each time he
lists anything.

w

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May 31, 2007, 5:45:53 AM5/31/07
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TFTO was and always willburnbe a fukken joke. It's SSulliMick's fav
album btfukkenw

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^R^A^J^A^

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On May 31, 8:17 am, RC_Moonpie <rc_moonp...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 31 May 2007 05:45:53 -0400, w <TrollFukkenCent...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Thu, 31 May 2007 18:07:47 +1000, Grinner wrote:
>
> >> "w" <TrollFukkenCent...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> only the super hard core Yessie fans dig it. Every time i've seen them
> play, as soon as they crank up anything from that album, half of the
> crowd hits the beer sellers or the toilets. actually its so long you
> got time to do both.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I dont dig the album that much but they did a great performance of
"Ritual" on Yes Symphonic Live.

Tilvios

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May 31, 2007, 1:02:12 PM5/31/07
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Raja is one of the few people that I can look at the thread subject
and know he started it.

Rick Steele

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May 31, 2007, 2:50:07 PM5/31/07
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Raja, I have an even stronger desire than before to beat the living
bejezus out of you.

The Family Chauffeur

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May 31, 2007, 5:33:03 PM5/31/07
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> 1967 - Beatles (Sgt Pepper Lonely Hearts Club Band, Magical Mystery
> Tour),
> Moody Blues (Days of Future Passed)
> Pink Floyd (The Piper at the Gates of Dawn)

I know some don't consider the Jimi Hendrix Experience a real band, but I
think this one could've been snuck in.


^R^A^J^A^

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On May 31, 4:33 pm, "The Family Chauffeur" <cutlipfam...@comcast.net>
wrote:

yes that is a good album. forgot about that one.

Relayer

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May 31, 2007, 7:22:54 PM5/31/07
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You actually rank Machine head near CTTE?

Jeff

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May 31, 2007, 8:15:56 PM5/31/07
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On May 31, 3:08 am, "Grinner" <grin...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>
> news:O9udnVkow8KX_sPb...@comcast.com...
>
> > More trolling. If you want the real story, check out this site:
> >http://www.theofficialcharts.com/all_the_no1_albums.php
> > You can look up the #1 charting album for each week in any year. Some
> > details below:
>
> Rich, RAJA only posts to get himsalef a new asshole ripped each time he
> lists anything.

"himsalef"? New kind of new sandwich? LOL

>
>
>
> > "^R^A^J^A^" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote in message

^R^A^J^A^

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May 31, 2007, 9:47:59 PM5/31/07
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On May 31, 6:22 pm, Relayer <danielobrien1...@aol.com> wrote:

> On May 31, 12:15?am, ^R^A^J^A^ <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > The 10 best years for classic rock were between 1966-75. Beatles
> > released their first two classic albums in 1966 and Zeppelin released
> > their last classic album in 75. These were the golden years for
> > classic rock. If we are to assign the years to certain band, I would
> > chose these.
>
> > 1966 - Beach Boys (Pet Sounds)
> > ? ? ? ? ? Beatles (Rubber Soul, Revolver)

> > 1967 - Beatles (Sgt Pepper Lonely Hearts Club Band, Magical Mystery
> > Tour),
> > ? ? ? ? ? Moody Blues (Days of Future Passed)
> > ? ? ? ? ? Pink Floyd (The Piper at the Gates of Dawn)

> > 1968 - Beatles (White Album)
> > ? ? ? ? ? Rolling Stones (Beggars Banquet)

> > 1969 - Beatles (Abbey Road)
> > ? ? ? ? ? Led Zeppelin (Led Zeppelin and Led Zeppelin II)

> > 1970 - Led Zeppelin (Led Zeppelin III)
> > ? ? ? ? ? Who (Whos Next)

> > 1971 - Led Zeppelin (Led Zeppelin IV)
> > 1972 - Deep Purple (Machine Head)
> > ? ? ? ? ? Yes (Fragile and Close to the Edge)

> > 1973 - Pink Floyd (The Dark Side Of the Moon)
> > 1974 - Yes (Tales From Topographic Oceans and Relayer)
> > 1975 - Led Zeppelin (Physical Graffiti)
> > ? ? ? ? ? Queen (A Night At the Opera)
>
> You actually rank Machine head near CTTE?- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Nope. CTTE is much better. But that doesnt mean that Machine Head is
not a great album. Not every album can be a CTTE ;-)

ebsound

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May 31, 2007, 10:22:46 PM5/31/07
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Rolling Stones - Let It Bleed? One of my all-time favorites
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Governor Swill

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On Thu, 31 May 2007 15:40:48 +1000, "Grinner" <gri...@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>> 1974 - Yes (Tales From Topographic Oceans
>LOL !
>

The fuckwit just never gives up, does he?

Yes, wasn't classic, they were fashionable just as ELP were. Their
music sounds much more dated than PF. Every record shop carries PF,
even Walmart always has DSOM and TW available if nothing else. You
won't find any Yes or ELP there though.

On another note, Black Sabbath is apparently classic as well. I've
heard more than a couple of tunes from bands in the nineties and this
century whose music was all but a direct rip of Sabbath's style.

Swill

Governor Swill

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On Thu, 31 May 2007 18:07:47 +1000, "Grinner" <gri...@nowhere.com>
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Oh god, what a nightmare Relayer was. I softened it in the oven and
turned it into an ashtray after my fourth or fifth attempt at a
listen. Cool cover though. But then I'm the same guy who used Ziggy
Stardust and the Spiders From Mars for a frisbee after playing it
once, so there ya go.

Swill

Grinner

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"Jeff" <yourimag...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> On May 31, 3:08 am, "Grinner" <grin...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:O9udnVkow8KX_sPb...@comcast.com...
>>
>> > More trolling. If you want the real story, check out this site:
>> >http://www.theofficialcharts.com/all_the_no1_albums.php
>> > You can look up the #1 charting album for each week in any year. Some
>> > details below:
>>
>> Rich, RAJA only posts to get himsalef a new asshole ripped each time he
>> lists anything.
>
> "himsalef"? New kind of new sandwich? LOL

eyp

Grinner

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"RC_Moonpie" <rc_mo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> only the super hard core Yessie fans dig it. Every time i've seen them
> play, as soon as they crank up anything from that album, half of the
> crowd hits the beer sellers or the toilets. actually its so long you
> got time to do both.

and watch the sport on the tv's at the bar, maybe watch the races and have a
bet.
>
>
>


Grinner

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"^R^A^J^A^" <zepf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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you dug it enough to include it in your list. holes are strange things the
more you try and dig yourself out of them the deeper they get.
>


Grinner

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"Governor Swill" <governo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 31 May 2007 15:40:48 +1000, "Grinner" <gri...@nowhere.com>
> wrote:
>
>>> 1974 - Yes (Tales From Topographic Oceans
>>LOL !
>>
>
> The fuckwit just never gives up, does he?

It must be sad to be stuck in his mindset.


>
> Yes, wasn't classic, they were fashionable just as ELP were. Their
> music sounds much more dated than PF. Every record shop carries PF,
> even Walmart always has DSOM and TW available if nothing else. You
> won't find any Yes or ELP there though.
>
> On another note, Black Sabbath is apparently classic as well. I've
> heard more than a couple of tunes from bands in the nineties and this
> century whose music was all but a direct rip of Sabbath's style.
>
> Swill

Yes is a band with 50/50 catalogue per album after Fragile. Unfortunately
they became that self indulgent they believed all they did was great a la
TFTO. I thought Ziggy Stardust was good Bowie though, station to station was
brillaint, so too Lodger. I pass on Dimaond Dogs, Low and Scary Monsters
(most of it). I love Sabbath but I find the sound gets a bit dark and gloomy
after a while, pioneer gothic even.


Grinner

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..
Not one song one that album sux, In CTTE I tend to skip
iii) I get Up, I get Down.

Sounds like Church music in contrast to Lazy.


Whisper

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^R^A^J^A^ wrote:
>> You actually rank Machine head near CTTE?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Nope. CTTE is much better. But that doesnt mean that Machine Head is
> not a great album. Not every album can be a CTTE ;-)
>


What do you think about machinegun fellatio?

Grinner

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"Whisper" <beav...@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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he's yet to try it.


Whisper

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Grinner wrote:
> "Governor Swill" <governo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:v9cv53970mmf7442m...@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 31 May 2007 15:40:48 +1000, "Grinner" <gri...@nowhere.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> 1974 - Yes (Tales From Topographic Oceans
>>> LOL !
>>>
>> The fuckwit just never gives up, does he?
>
> It must be sad to be stuck in his mindset.


Yes, but at least he has the babes to console himself with - oh wait!

Whisper

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I think he tried it once but took forever to get the taste out of his
mouth...?

Godolphin&fellow

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On May 31, 9:17 am, RC_Moonpie <rc_moonp...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 31 May 2007 05:45:53 -0400, w <TrollFukkenCent...@gmail.com>
> wrote:

> >TFTO was and always willburnbe a fukken joke. It's SSulliMick's fav
> >album btfukkenw
>

> only the super hard core Yessie fans dig it. Every time i've seen them
> play, as soon as they crank up anything from that album, half of the
> crowd hits the beer sellers or the toilets. actually its so long you
> got time to do both

It's not the execution of the music that matters so much, as the
spirit that exists behind the presence its energies create. (True esp.
of side one and two.)

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"Some are slow. In that they find in slowness a measure for all speed.
But not every speed is knowable. The wise know all are slow." -- me,
yesterday

^R^A^J^A^

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On Jun 1, 6:22 am, Godolphin&fellow <g...@netscape.net> wrote:
> On May 31, 9:17 am, RC_Moonpie <rc_moonp...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 31 May 2007 05:45:53 -0400, w <TrollFukkenCent...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >TFTO was and always willburnbe a fukken joke. It's SSulliMick's fav
> > >album btfukkenw
>
> > only the super hard core Yessie fans dig it. Every time i've seen them
> > play, as soon as they crank up anything from that album, half of the
> > crowd hits the beer sellers or the toilets. actually its so long you
> > got time to do both
>
> It's not the execution of the music that matters so much, as the
> spirit that exists behind the presence its energies create. (True esp.
> of side one and two.)
>
> -
good point. Tales was an over ambtitious project which failed on some
fronts but not all.... much like Exile on Main St, White Album and
Quadropehenia.
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In alt.music.yes Governor Swill <governo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 31 May 2007 15:40:48 +1000, "Grinner" <gri...@nowhere.com>
> wrote:

> >> 1974 - Yes (Tales From Topographic Oceans
> >LOL !
> >

> The fuckwit just never gives up, does he?

> Yes, wasn't classic, they were fashionable just as ELP were.

Their perennial place in 'classic rock' radio playlists, suggests
otherwise.

> music sounds much more dated than PF. Every record shop carries PF,
> even Walmart always has DSOM and TW available if nothing else. You
> won't find any Yes or ELP there though.

I have (Fragile). I've also seen that godawful Styx shit you like, sold
there.


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oldpink

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...to our chagrin.
--
And what exactly is a joke?

oldpink

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RC_Moonpie wrote:
[...]

>>You actually rank Machine head near CTTE?
>>..
>>Not one song one that album sux, In CTTE I tend to skip
>>iii) I get Up, I get Down.
>>
>>Sounds like Church music in contrast to Lazy.
>>
> friend of mine in London told me him and his friend used to sneak into
> the local cathedral after hours and hook up a fuzzbox to the big pipe
> organ and crank on some Jon Lord
>
> i wonder if Jesus liked it

His name is John _Lord_.
Of course, he liked it.

Whisper

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^R^A^J^A^ wrote:
>> -
> good point. Tales was an over ambtitious project which failed on some
> fronts but not all.... much like Exile on Main St, White Album and
> Quadropehenia.
>

Hey Raj - can you write us a poem with the keywords 'Half-sucked cock',
'Lendl', 'gay' & 'Pink Floyd'.

^R^A^J^A^

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On Jun 1, 3:55 am, "Grinner" <grin...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> "Governor Swill" <governor.sw...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:v9cv53970mmf7442m...@4ax.com...
>
> > On Thu, 31 May 2007 15:40:48 +1000, "Grinner" <grin...@nowhere.com>

> > wrote:
>
> >>> 1974 - Yes (Tales From Topographic Oceans
> >>LOL !
>
> > The fuckwit just never gives up, does he?
>
> It must be sad to be stuck in his mindset.
>
>
>
> > Yes, wasn't classic, they were fashionable just as ELP were. Their
> > music sounds much more dated than PF. Every record shop carries PF,
> > even Walmart always has DSOM and TW available if nothing else. You
> > won't find any Yes or ELP there though.
>
> > On another note, Black Sabbath is apparently classic as well. I've
> > heard more than a couple of tunes from bands in the nineties and this
> > century whose music was all but a direct rip of Sabbath's style.
>
> > Swill
>
> Yes is a band with 50/50 catalogue per album after Fragile.

Disagree.... CTTE and Relayer are much better.

>Unfortunately
> they became that self indulgent they believed all they did was great a la
> TFTO.

Agree TFTO was not that good.

>I thought Ziggy Stardust was good Bowie though, station to station was
> brillaint, so too Lodger. I pass on Dimaond Dogs, Low and Scary Monsters
> (most of it). I love Sabbath but I find the sound gets a bit dark and gloomy
> after a while, pioneer gothic even.

Sabbath is good but very one dimensional. Their most versatile album
is Sabbath Bloody Sabbath.

^R^A^J^A^

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On Jun 1, 12:43 am, Governor Swill <governor.sw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 31 May 2007 15:40:48 +1000, "Grinner" <grin...@nowhere.com>

> wrote:
>
> >> 1974 - Yes (Tales From Topographic Oceans
> >LOL !
>
> The fuckwit just never gives up, does he?
>
> Yes, wasn't classic, they were fashionable just as ELP were.

huh? Fashionable?

> Their
> music sounds much more dated than PF.

yeah right! More/Ummgumma.... all those albums are less dated than
Close to the Edge

> Every record shop carries PF,
> even Walmart always has DSOM and TW available if nothing else.

Yes, after the punk era, PF has retained (or even gained more)
popularity than Yes. 70s PF was less ambitious than Yes and it worked
for them. But before the punk era Yes was rated higher and even more
popular

> You
> won't find any Yes or ELP there though.
>
> On another note, Black Sabbath is apparently classic as well. I've
> heard more than a couple of tunes from bands in the nineties and this
> century whose music was all but a direct rip of Sabbath's style.

Sabbath has gained popularity due to metal fans. Unfortunately for
Yes, they were too ambitious and bands nowadays cannot make 15 minutes
epics like Yes and still be mainstream. Prog has gone underground
since the 70s, Metal is much more mainstream.

>
> Swill


JJ (UK)

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"^R^A^J^A^" <zepf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Sabbath is good but very one dimensional.

Why is that a bad thing? Overall, I disagree though. Their work after Master
Of Reality becomes much more 'varied' (not "versatile").

> Their most versatile album
> is Sabbath Bloody Sabbath.

I agree that is their most varied album, but there's also a lot of variety
on albums such as Never Say Die (an under-rated release, I reckon) and
Sabotage. Even apart from the later albums I never felt Black Sabbath were a
one trick pony.

JJ (UK)


JJ (UK)

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"^R^A^J^A^" <zepf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Sabbath has gained popularity due to metal fans.

What's your point?

JJ (UK)


^R^A^J^A^

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On Jun 1, 2:32 pm, "JJ \(UK\)" <khbjb...@khjkhbjhb.com> wrote:
> "^R^A^J^A^" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> news:1180716991.5...@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Sabbath has gained popularity due to metal fans.
>
> What's your point?

That they were not as good as they are made to be. The influence
factor is one of the main reason they are admired. Their albums were
not as high quality as of Zep or Yes.

>
> JJ (UK)


Rick Steele

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"Raja, resident NG onanist"
That's it! he's an exhibitionist. Wait that's illegal!

Governor Swill

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On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 01:36:54 +1000, Whisper <beav...@ozemail.com.au>
wrote:

>Hey Raj - can you write us a poem with the keywords 'Half-sucked cock',
>'Lendl', 'gay' & 'Pink Floyd'.

Not until I'm done with his mouth.

Swill

Governor Swill

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Jun 2, 2007, 4:03:56 AM6/2/07
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 10:22:01 -0400, RC_Moonpie
<rc_mo...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>Oh god, what a nightmare Relayer was. I softened it in the oven and
>>turned it into an ashtray after my fourth or fifth attempt at a
>>listen. Cool cover though. But then I'm the same guy who used Ziggy
>>Stardust and the Spiders From Mars for a frisbee after playing it
>>once, so there ya go.
>>
>
>I did that to the first Starcastle LP

Amazing. They were originally from Illinois (so am I) and relocated
to Atlanta (as I had) and they were seventies prog rockers (my
favorite music at the time) who played the Agora Ballroom in 1980. In
1980 I was working the desk at the Georgian Terrace on Peachtree
Street in which the Agora was located. Yet this band slipped
entirely below my radar. Never heard of them until you just mentioned
them.

Swill

Governor Swill

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On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 18:55:32 +1000, "Grinner" <gri...@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>Yes is a band with 50/50 catalogue per album after Fragile. Unfortunately
>they became that self indulgent they believed all they did was great a la
>TFTO. I thought Ziggy Stardust was good Bowie though, station to station was
>brillaint, so too Lodger. I pass on Dimaond Dogs, Low and Scary Monsters
>(most of it). I love Sabbath but I find the sound gets a bit dark and gloomy
>after a while, pioneer gothic even.

Decidedly. Their first album, raw as it was, was excellently produced
and recorded. The title track gives me shivers to this day, The
Wizard is my all time favorite Sab tune and Iomni's guitar work all
across side two is beggars description. Truly stunning work. IMO
they never topped that album but the came very near with Master of
Reality, Sabotage and Sabbath Bloody Sabbath.

Swill
NP: Cascades: I'm Not Your Lover - Deep Purple - Purpendicular
The guitar solo always grabs my undivided attention.

Governor Swill

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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 20:44:26 +1000, Whisper <beav...@ozemail.com.au>
wrote:

>>>>> 1974 - Yes (Tales From Topographic Oceans
>>>> LOL !
>>>>
>>> The fuckwit just never gives up, does he?
>>
>> It must be sad to be stuck in his mindset.
>
>
>Yes, but at least he has the babes to console himself with - oh wait!

Neoprene love...

Swill

Governor Swill

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Jun 2, 2007, 4:15:27 AM6/2/07
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 19:30:13 GMT, "JJ \(UK\)" <khbj...@khjkhbjhb.com>
wrote:

>"^R^A^J^A^" <zepf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1180716531....@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
>> Sabbath is good but very one dimensional.
>
>Why is that a bad thing? Overall, I disagree though. Their work after Master
>Of Reality becomes much more 'varied' (not "versatile").

Unlike most bands, they shied away from studio trickery and 'played it
straight' so to speak. By Technical Ecstasy they were clearly trapped
in their own reputation and the band began to come apart.

That said, Iomni wrote and performed some truly beautiful and, dare I
say it, sweet sounding music. Even Ozzy lightened up from despair to
mere bittersweet from time to time. <g>

Swill

Governor Swill

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On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 14:43:33 +0000 (UTC), Steven Sullivan
<ssu...@panix.com> wrote:

>In alt.music.yes Governor Swill <governo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 31 May 2007 15:40:48 +1000, "Grinner" <gri...@nowhere.com>
>> wrote:
>
>> >> 1974 - Yes (Tales From Topographic Oceans
>> >LOL !
>> >
>
>> The fuckwit just never gives up, does he?
>
>> Yes, wasn't classic, they were fashionable just as ELP were.
>
>Their perennial place in 'classic rock' radio playlists, suggests
>otherwise.

And those classic rock radio playlists sound as dated as Yes and ELP.
Classic Radio does not mean Classic rock. It means rock from the
Classic period. That is, late sixties to early eighties. Notably,
most of them include rock from the last decade or so. It seems rock
from the eighties and early nineties has been (rightfully) dropped
from the genre.

>> music sounds much more dated than PF. Every record shop carries PF,
>> even Walmart always has DSOM and TW available if nothing else. You
>> won't find any Yes or ELP there though.
>
>I have (Fragile). I've also seen that godawful Styx shit you like, sold
>there.

Would like to see some Styx there. My copy of Equinox disappeared.

AC/DC still very seriously rocks. Nancy can provide a better update
than I ever could though.

Swill
NP: Rosa's Cantina - Deep Purple - Purpendicular
There's really not a bad track on this album.

Governor Swill

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Jun 2, 2007, 4:25:29 AM6/2/07
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 19:32:41 GMT, "JJ \(UK\)" <khbj...@khjkhbjhb.com>
wrote:

>"^R^A^J^A^" <zepf...@gmail.com> wrote in message

That sometimes, in the course of making profoundly stupid statements,
he can occasionally say something profoundly obvious.

Yo, Raj! Black Sabbath invented metal.

Swill

Governor Swill

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Jun 2, 2007, 4:37:32 AM6/2/07
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On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 19:05:02 +1000, "Grinner" <gri...@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>Not one song one that album sux, In CTTE I tend to skip
> iii) I get Up, I get Down.
>
>Sounds like Church music in contrast to Lazy.

The 1972 tour was awesome for that track. Gillian's guitar imitation
was amazing.

Swill
NP: Hey Cisco - Deep Purple - Perpendicular
Frenetic.

Governor Swill

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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 10:24:29 -0400, RC_Moonpie
<rc_mo...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>Not one song one that album sux, In CTTE I tend to skip
>> iii) I get Up, I get Down.
>>
>>Sounds like Church music in contrast to Lazy.
>>
>

>friend of mine in London told me him and his friend used to sneak into
>the local cathedral after hours and hook up a fuzzbox to the big pipe
>organ and crank on some Jon Lord
>
>i wonder if Jesus liked it

Lol! Bet he didn't bogart the joint.

Swill

Governor Swill

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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 11:35:51 -0400, oldpink <old...@nltc.net> wrote:

>>>Sounds like Church music in contrast to Lazy.
>>>
>> friend of mine in London told me him and his friend used to sneak into
>> the local cathedral after hours and hook up a fuzzbox to the big pipe
>> organ and crank on some Jon Lord
>>
>> i wonder if Jesus liked it
>
>His name is John _Lord_.
>Of course, he liked it.

Technically his name is simply "Lord".

Swill

Governor Swill

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Jun 2, 2007, 4:39:43 AM6/2/07
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 19:34:07 +1000, Whisper <beav...@ozemail.com.au>
wrote:

>> Nope. CTTE is much better. But that doesnt mean that Machine Head is
>> not a great album. Not every album can be a CTTE ;-)
>>
>
>
>What do you think about machinegun fellatio?

Let me get a few breaths. And you'd better hang onto the mattress...

Swill

Governor Swill

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Jun 2, 2007, 4:41:52 AM6/2/07
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 20:47:57 +1000, Whisper <beav...@ozemail.com.au>
wrote:

>>> What do you think about machinegun fellatio?
>>>

>> he's yet to try it.

>I think he tried it once but took forever to get the taste out of his
>mouth...?

Listerine knocks it right out. That is, if you *want* to get the
taste out.

Swill
NP: Somebody Stole My Guitar - Deep Purple - Purpendicular
The Band is ON.

Nic

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"Governor Swill" <governo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Actually, not that it matters, but his name is Jon Lord. That's par for the
course with your argument.

NC


Godolphin&fellow

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On Jun 1, 10:21 am, RC_Moonpie <rc_moonp...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 04:22:15 -0700, Godolphin&fellow

> >> only the super hard core Yessie fans dig it. Every time i've seen them
> >> play, as soon as they crank up anything from that album, half of the
> >> crowd hits the beer sellers or the toilets. actually its so long you
> >> got time to do both
>
> >It's not the execution of the music that matters so much, as the
> >spirit that exists behind the presence its energies create. (True esp.
> >of side one and two.)
>
> i love the smell of patchouli in the morning

There's another Hindu or Buddhist quote that is more germaine, on the
subject of making music, but I can't remember it well enough. This one
will do.

The Gayatri
O Thou Who givest sustenance to the universe,
>From Whom all things proceed,
To Whom all things return,
Unveil to us the face of the true Spiritual Sun
Hidden by a disc of golden Light
That we may know the Truth And do our whole duty
As we journey to Thy sacred feet.

Godolphin&fellow

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On Jun 1, 10:21 am, RC_Moonpie <rc_moonp...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 04:22:15 -0700, Godolphin&fellow

>


> >It's not the execution of the music that matters so much, as the
> >spirit that exists behind the presence its energies create. (True esp.
> >of side one and two.)
>
> i love the smell of patchouli in the morning

(For those not in the know, like me)

http://ask.yahoo.com/19991124.html

Dear Yahoo!:
What is the fragrance patchouli?
Dear Kathy:
If you remember the '60s, chances are you remember the scent of
patchouli. We typed this exotic-sounding word into the search box and
slogged through listings from vendors of candles, bed linens,
perfumes, and aromatherapy products... We learned that the essential
oil made from the patchouli plant has a "pungent, powerful, mossy,
musty" fragrance. The viscous, orangey-amber oil is extracted from the
leaves of a two to three foot perennial bush with purple-tinged white
flowers, native to tropical Asia.
... the highest quality oil is usually produced from fresh leaves,
distilled close to the plantation. The oil is thought to improve with
age, and is used with camphor to give India ink its characteristic
odor. In the 19th century, the fragrance was used to scent fabrics
manufactured in India for export to Europe.

Sean Carroll

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Godolphin&fellow wrote:

> There's another Hindu or Buddhist quote that is more germaine,

But is it more or less Tito?

--
--Sean
http://spclsd223.livejournal.com/

Cuddy: You, in the lobby, now.

House: I hurt my leg. I have a note.

O'Leary

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Jun 2, 2007, 4:41:34 PM6/2/07
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Sean Carroll wrote:

>> There's another Hindu or Buddhist quote that is more germaine,
>
>
> But is it more or less Tito?


Tito rules!

abe slaney

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O'Leary wrote:

Tito manages!

Governor Swill

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Jun 3, 2007, 10:38:10 AM6/3/07
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On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 01:51:48 -0700, "Nic" <nicbea...@mlode.com>
wrote:

>>>> i wonder if Jesus liked it
>>>
>>>His name is John _Lord_.
>>>Of course, he liked it.
>>
>> Technically his name is simply "Lord".
>
>Actually, not that it matters, but his name is Jon Lord. That's par for the
>course with your argument.

Reread the exchange. Looked to me like he was referring to Jesus who
indeed is 'Lord' though I could well be mistaken. 'Swhat I get for
posting when I'm an hour past bedtime and halfway through a sixpack.

As to whether or not Jesus actually would have liked Jon's playing, I
don't suppose we'll ever know.

Swill

R*A*J*A*

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On Jun 3, 9:38 am, Governor Swill <governor.sw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 01:51:48 -0700, "Nic" <nicbeatREM...@mlode.com>


Morons who consider Lord as the best have never seen Wakeman or
Emerson play live.

^R^A^J^A^

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On Jun 2, 3:10 am, Governor Swill <governor.sw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 18:55:32 +1000, "Grinner" <grin...@nowhere.com>

> wrote:
>
> >Yes is a band with 50/50 catalogue per album after Fragile. Unfortunately
> >they became that self indulgent they believed all they did was great a la
> >TFTO. I thought Ziggy Stardust was good Bowie though, station to station was
> >brillaint, so too Lodger. I pass on Dimaond Dogs, Low and Scary Monsters
> >(most of it). I love Sabbath but I find the sound gets a bit dark and gloomy
> >after a while, pioneer gothic even.
>
> Decidedly. Their first album, raw as it was, was excellently produced
> and recorded.

And crap too... except for a few good song like Black Sabbath and
Wizard... there was too much of blues wanking in there. Iommi sounds
like Santana in their debut album.


The title track gives me shivers to this day, The
> Wizard is my all time favorite Sab tune and Iomni's guitar work all
> across side two is beggars description. Truly stunning work.

not really. you are overrating him. You forgot Hendrix/Beck/Page who
came before and were much more stunning and innovative.

> IMO
> they never topped that album but the came very near with Master of
> Reality, Sabotage and Sabbath Bloody Sabbath.

Personally, Paroanoid and MoR are their best albums. SBS gets points
for them trying something different finally but it is flawed like
their debut album. Vol4 and Sabotage are poor albums, IMO.

Caffe Mocha

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> Emerson play live.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

So anyone who disagrees with your assessment of who's best is a moron.
Way to have a debate there, skippy.

Message has been deleted

^R^A^J^A^

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> Way to have a debate there, skippy.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

I consider ignorant people as morons. Any problem with that?

oldpink

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^R^A^J^A^ wrote:
[...]

>>So anyone who disagrees with your assessment of who's best is a moron.
>>Way to have a debate there, skippy.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>- Show quoted text -
>
>
> I consider ignorant people as morons. Any problem with that?

Ignorance is a forgivable sin, while stupidity is a mortal sin.
So, just how in the FUCK can you stand yourself?
--
And what exactly is a joke?

^R^A^J^A^

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oldpink what do you think about my analysis that Piper At the Gates of
Dawn, Meddle and The Dark Side of the Moon are the three best Floyd
albums followed by The Wall. And also that rest of the Pink Floyd
albums are just okay. And that Beatles < Pink Floyd <Yes < Zeppelin. I
think that analysis is excellent. If you disagree you are a dumb fuck!

RichL

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"^R^A^J^A^" <zepf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1181005255.5...@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...

> oldpink what do you think about my analysis that Piper At the Gates of
> Dawn, Meddle and The Dark Side of the Moon are the three best Floyd
> albums followed by The Wall. And also that rest of the Pink Floyd
> albums are just okay. And that Beatles < Pink Floyd <Yes < Zeppelin. I
> think that analysis is excellent. If you disagree you are a dumb fuck!

Beatles > Zep ~ Floyd >> Yes


JJ (UK)

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"^R^A^J^A^" <zepf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I consider ignorant people as morons. Any problem with that?

Yes, since it seems to show you're ignorant of the meaning of the word
'ignorant' as well as the word 'moron'.

That literally makes you an ignoramus (a phrase usually used as an insult,
which in itself could be interpreted as showing the insulter as being the
ignoramus) but it doesn't make you a moron.

Your statement also strongly suggests intolerance, or lack of openness to
other people's opinions, on your part.

JJ (UK)


^R^A^J^A^

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Jun 5, 2007, 5:37:05 PM6/5/07
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On Jun 4, 10:53 pm, "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "^R^A^J^A^" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote in message

popular but wrong idea

^R^A^J^A^

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Jun 5, 2007, 5:39:04 PM6/5/07
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On Jun 5, 4:20 pm, "JJ \(UK\)" <khbjb...@khjkhbjhb.com> wrote:
> "^R^A^J^A^" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote in message

not really. I havent heard much of rap music and wont comment on Tupac
Shakur vs DMX or something like that. But morons who have heard a few
songs from The Wall, automatically assume Floyd > Zep. I call them
ignorant morons. Dont compare bands if you havent heard all albums of
the bands you are comparing.

JJ (UK)

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"^R^A^J^A^" <zepf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1181079425....@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
> popular but wrong idea
>

Why is it "wrong"?

JJ (UK)


JJ (UK)

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"^R^A^J^A^" <zepf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1181079544.4...@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...

> not really. I havent heard much of rap music and wont comment on Tupac
> Shakur vs DMX or something like that. But morons who have heard a few
> songs from The Wall, automatically assume Floyd > Zep. I call them
> ignorant morons. Dont compare bands if you havent heard all albums of
> the bands you are comparing.

None of which relates to your original statement: "...I consider ignorant
people as morons..."

And do ALL people who have heard a few songs from The Wall 'automatically'
assume Floyd > Zep?

I'd agree that it's kind of silly to say A is better than B when one has
experienced very little of B, or very little of A, or very little of both.
It's hardly moronic though, since it is possible to have heard only a small
sample of a band's work but still to decide you don't like their stuff
because it's not to your taste. Here's a pertinent example; "...I dont like
the Beach Boys' music at all and havent heard much of them...", but was that
a moronic statement?

JJ (UK)


RichL

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Jun 5, 2007, 7:43:40 PM6/5/07
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"^R^A^J^A^" <zepf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1181079425....@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...

> On Jun 4, 10:53 pm, "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Beatles > Zep ~ Floyd >> Yes
>
> popular but wrong idea

In terms of implanting good tunes in people's heads that they can easily
recall 30 or 40 years later, I'll stick with my ordering, having listened to
a great variety of ALL the above when it first came out. One significant
characteristic of the world's best songwriters: the hooks and melodies STAY
in your head! Beatles are outstanding in this regard (and it isn't just
from over-repetition; even the least radio-played tunes are this way).
Can't say the same for Yes.


^R^A^J^A^

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Jun 5, 2007, 8:01:09 PM6/5/07
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On Jun 5, 6:08 pm, "JJ \(UK\)" <khbjb...@khjkhbjhb.com> wrote:
> "^R^A^J^A^" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> news:1181079544.4...@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>
> > not really. I havent heard much of rap music and wont comment on Tupac
> > Shakur vs DMX or something like that. But morons who have heard a few
> > songs from The Wall, automatically assume Floyd > Zep. I call them
> > ignorant morons. Dont compare bands if you havent heard all albums of
> > the bands you are comparing.
>
> None of which relates to your original statement: "...I consider ignorant
> people as morons..."
>
> And do ALL people who have heard a few songs from The Wall 'automatically'
> assume Floyd > Zep?

Never said that. that was just an example..

>
> I'd agree that it's kind of silly to say A is better than B when one has
> experienced very little of B, or very little of A, or very little of both.
> It's hardly moronic though, since it is possible to have heard only a small
> sample of a band's work but still to decide you don't like their stuff
> because it's not to your taste. Here's a pertinent example; "...I dont like
> the Beach Boys' music at all and havent heard much of them...", but was that
> a moronic statement?

No thats why Beach Boys are not on my list. I will place them
somewhere if I hear more of them.
>
> JJ (UK)


w

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Jun 21, 2007, 7:36:26 AM6/21/07
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On Thu, 31 May 2007 09:17:29 -0400, RC_Moonpie wrote:

>>>>>> 1974 - Yes (Tales From Topographic Oceans)
>>>>> LOL !
>>>>
>>>> NYUKLES !!
>>>
>>> HEHE. It would have to be the most self indulgent drivel ever pissed through
>>> a speaker, at least you can listen to Pink Floyd's soundscape 20 minute
>>> songs. That album had about 10 minutes worth of decent music - on four
>>> sides. Oh, and a little pretty cover. It sucked like nothing else could.
>>> After that they got rid of Wakeman and got Moraz in for arguably the best
>>> album they ever did - Relayer.
>>
>>TFTO was and always willburnbe a fukken joke. It's SSulliMick's fav
>>album btfukkenw


>
> only the super hard core Yessie fans dig it. Every time i've seen them
> play, as soon as they crank up anything from that album, half of the
> crowd hits the beer sellers or the toilets. actually its so long you

> got time to do both.

Is that the fukken why you hear them in the toilets moaning
"Yeeeeeessssssssss" as they stream Pabst colored piss into urinals?
--
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w

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Jun 21, 2007, 7:37:05 AM6/21/07
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 10:21:33 -0400, RC_Moonpie wrote:

> i love the smell of patchouli in the morning.

Patch Ouli, fukken Indian GF?
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