George Harrisons Coments on U2
Nicky McMillan
I've only decided to post a message on this NG as I wanted to get some
feedback on a certain subject. I'm not a troll or don't intend to flame i
just want to put across a few points then hear your views on the matter.
I'm a regular poster on the alt.u2.fan NG and the following link was posted
earlier tonight.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_583000/583411.stm
George has again publicly attacked U2 for what he believes U2 are surviving
on big ego's and are talentless. He's put U2 in the same birth as the Spice
girls commenting he doesn't think U2 will be remembered in 30 yrs.
Not for the first time he's made these comments he did so originally back in
97 when U2 were touring the UK.
Basically i just wanted to know weather this is the thought of majority of
Beatles fans that U2 are talentless and live on big hats and egos.
Fair enough that is his view and maybe yours i don't agree with these
comments obviously I would just like to know what he or yourself basis his
comments on?
I'm not a Beatles fan there music doesn't appeal to me just like for many of
you U2 may not appeal to you but if you do agree with George's comments i
would like to hear of your reasons just out of curiosity for why you believe
U2 are talentless maybe i'll get a better understanding of how George came
about to make these statements
Look forward to your comments
Thanks
Nicky
Mark Janovec
was nothing in that article which was less than a year old. They didn't even
mention the stabbing incident.
Mark
Nicky McMillan wrote in message <8v4aui$m39$1...@neptunium.btinternet.com>...
Strabbo
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>
> I'm a regular poster on the alt.u2.fan NG and the following link was
posted
> earlier tonight.
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_583000/583411.stm
>
> George has again publicly attacked U2 for what he believes U2 are
surviving
> on big ego's and are talentless. He's put U2 in the same birth as the
Spice
> girls commenting he doesn't think U2 will be remembered in 30 yrs.
Interesting.
I didn't know George felt this way. Speaking from my perspective, I haven't
adored all of U2's music, but albums like War, Achtung Baby and the Joshua
Tree are all enjoyable to my ears. The new single gets my feet tapping as
well.
As for their egos, well, I think they do get a little self-indulgent at
times. Personally, I haven't read too many interviews with them, so I can't
really comment on their pricktitude.
It's not, as you may have wondered, an assumed decision among Beatles fans
that U2 stinks though. Folks here seem to like everything from Mozart to
Eminem.
(though some may say our tastes are conservative, they've been proven to be
full of hot air, among other substances)
Hope that helps!
andy749
seem SO serious all the time.I wouldn't lose any sleep if I never heard
them again.I'm not surprised GH doesn't go for them.
This is supposed to be true... at the rehearsals for a Grammy show in
the 80s, the guys in U2 came in and Dion was onstage rehearsing...they
asked someone who worked there who the guy singing up there was! When
told who it was they said, "who?"!!! They didn't know who Dion was.
Brian R. Budde
not recent comments.
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Nicky McMillan
in the U2 NG quite interesting to say the least.
Cheers!
Nicky
"Mark Janovec" <tras...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> They were quoting George from the first time he made those comments. There
> was nothing in that article which was less than a year old. They didn't
even
> mention the stabbing incident.
>
> Mark
>
> Nicky McMillan wrote in message <8v4aui$m39$1...@neptunium.btinternet.com>...
> >Hey!
> >I've only decided to post a message on this NG as I wanted to get some
> >feedback on a certain subject. I'm not a troll or don't intend to flame i
> >just want to put across a few points then hear your views on the matter.
> >
> >I'm a regular poster on the alt.u2.fan NG and the following link was
posted
> >earlier tonight.
> >http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_583000/583411.stm
> >
> >George has again publicly attacked U2 for what he believes U2 are
surviving
> >on big ego's and are talentless. He's put U2 in the same birth as the
Spice
> >girls commenting he doesn't think U2 will be remembered in 30 yrs.
> >
Nicky McMillan
survive on Bono's big ego alone as George commented. although as we've now
discovered the article is quite old.
hehe as for the diverse music tastes of Beatles fans I'm pretty sure that's
no different to the different tastes fellow U2 fans have.
But anyways thanks! interesting!
Nicky
"Strabbo" <str...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Interesting.
Johnny Dupe
remembered for a long long time.
"Long long time..." Wow, that reference to the White Album was just a
coinkydink.
-John W.
My rare Beatles tapes in mp3: http://www.egroups.com/files/johnscloset
Also check out johnscloset2, 3, and 4
Įine Nic an Fhilidh
<ni...@NOSPAMberwickrangers.net> wrote:
> Yeah I've just found that out myself actually, but its causing a mass divide
> in the U2 NG quite interesting to say the least.
They shouldn't get themselves too worked up. George has made it plain that he
doesn't care for very many 'new' bands. He can be a real curmudgeon in that
respect. For some more fun, look up his 1997 comments on Oasis, and their
reaction.
And if it makes anyone feel any better, Paul McCartney has said several times
that he likes U2 ...
--
northcut at mindspring dot com
Kev
This is my first post to this group and I know Nicky well from the U2 NG's. He's
no troll and its good to see no one is treating him that way cos he's a Berwick
Rangers fan with a broken leg so I think he's suffered enough!! ;-)
Anyway I'm a huge U2 & Beatles fan but George's quotes (from 1997 I think cos he
was slagging off Popmart) kinda pissed me off a little but at the same time he's
entitled to his opinion. I'm 27 and reckon U2 to be the greatest band of all
time but please don't think I'm dissing The Beatles cos I'm not. I've grown up
with U2's music and it just touches me more than The Beatles but not by much!!
They still haven't reached the heights of Tomorrow Never Knows IMO anyway. I've
only started enjoying The Beatles in the last 5 years but I now realise how
fantastic a band they are. You can slag off the Gallagher brothers all you like
but they introduced me to many of Lennon/McCartneys tunes.
Anyway sorry there's no point to my post but just popping in to back up my mate
Nicky with his beasted leg and to say hello to all the posters in here!!
Peace
Kev
Sweet Tough Lip
Kev <"kev"@life should be fragrant.ok> wrote:
Good old George... hello to both of you virgins. Heard what a nasty lot
we are? Don't believe it. Devil's Radio and all that.
Each generation has a special sound associated with youth (which seems to
start earlier and earlier these days). For my parental units, it was
Sinatra and Ella and the Andrews Sisters and the Inkspots and Benny
Goodman. For me, it was the Fab Four. You lot like U2 and George doesn't
(or didn't - he could have been having a rotten day when he made the
crack, too) but it's no big whoop. Lots of our middle-aged generation get
cranky about this "Group X will go on forever" stuff...
I only know a little of U2, and I saw Bono talkin' bout Old Blue Eyes
after the daft duet project, presenting a Grammy or whatever. I hate
award shows (except Oscar) and I'm waiting for Randy Newman to collect
his Oscar, all he's got is the Billboard Lifetime Achievement Thingy...
We first Gen Beatle freaks are aging fast in the Information Overload
Times, this Millennium bit is already exhausted and the damn thing is
still seven weeks off!
I'm a Daydream Believer in Stanley Kubrick's 2001: Eyes Wide Shut.
And I am just waiting for ATMP to come home to mama!
--
FRANCIE
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Before you buy.
Nicky McMillan
different generations of youth.
I grew up listening to U2 (one of the very few my age that does) and U2
eventually lead me to the Beatles.
I'm pretty dam sure George doesn't really think U2 are talentless, like you
say he must have been having a shite day, I'll give him that.
His "egocentered" comments i still find unfounded but obviously some of you
here agree and i suppose my eyes are covered by the fact im a massive U2 fan
so I'll leave that at that.
I bought Beatles 1 on Monday (my first Beatles album) i bought John Lennon's
Imagine a few yrs back which i find soo inspirational.
I'm now only 18yrs old and the Beatles is finally filtering through to me
and what a great band they are to!
If you don't mind I'll probably stick around here you seem like a decent set
of fans!
Nicky
"Sweet Tough Lip" <shooby...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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STORMICANS
the Beatles--few are. Much of the Beatles charm lies in their personalities,
unlike say the edge.
The Beatles doubtless had giant egos, but perhaps they hid them in a way that
U2, particularly Bono, cannot.
Nothing is quite as annoying as really trying to be "hip" (Friends, 90% of
primeTV shows) as opposed to just being "hip." Think Friends versus Seinfeld.
I think a lot of Seinfeld's appeal was they they never tried to be hip, they
just were. Same with the Beatles. Still, U2 has recorded some great tunes and
explored a fair amount of terrain.
Nicky McMillan
fave band so im going to say U2 are up there with the likes of the Beatles
and the stones, but I also do respect other people's views.
I do agree though that Bono in the last 10 yrs has found himself with one
hell of an ego, maybe that's one of the things what got me into the band in
the first place.
Still interesting to hear these views though!
Take Care!
Nicky
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Nicky McMillan
were made prior to the U2 POPMART show at Roundhay Pk.
Appeared in the press on Aug 28th 1997.
Cheers
Nicky
"Brian R. Budde" <brb...@internetwis.com> wrote in message
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> Read your link again closely. These comments were made in 1992. These
are
> not recent comments.
>
>
> "Strabbo" <str...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:t1bgnd3...@corp.supernews.com...
> > Nicky McMillan <ni...@NOSPAMberwickrangers.net> wrote in message
> > news:8v4aui$m39$1...@neptunium.btinternet.com...
> > >
> > > I'm a regular poster on the alt.u2.fan NG and the following link was
> > posted
> > > earlier tonight.
> > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_583000/583411.stm
> > >
> > > George has again publicly attacked U2 for what he believes U2 are
> > surviving
> > > on big ego's and are talentless. He's put U2 in the same birth as the
> > Spice
> > > girls commenting he doesn't think U2 will be remembered in 30 yrs.
> >
Diana
quote, and while I had no argument about the Spice Girls < ::groan::> I wonder
if George wasn't just picking names out of hat, so to speak. My impression is
that the only active rock groups George knows are the ones his son, Dhani,
listens to like the Black Crowes. (Just my impression; I could be wrong.)
- - - - - -
Hari Scruffs : http://www.hariscruffs.com
robertandrews
>George has again publicly attacked U2 for what he believes U2 are surviving
on big ego's and are talentless. He's put U2 in the same birth as the Spice
girls commenting he doesn't think U2 will be remembered in 30 yrs.
U2 was a uniquely talented & influential band, they just never reached me
like the Beatles, Dylan, etc. -- perhaps Bono was a bit too pretentious &
preachy. Since that "Vegas" stuff I've lost interest, but I can respect
someone who loves their music.
The Spice Girls have gone stale, though I liked some songs better than
George's solo recordings with Jeff Lynne.
Oasis is an abomination.
Diana
>If you don't mind I'll probably stick around here you seem like a decent
>set of fans!
For the most part ;-) Nicky and Kev, you just missed a thread where we talked
about what we're listening to right now besides the Beatles. Quite a few
mentioned U2, so you're in good company. So far I have only The Joshua Tree,
but I was so drawn into the songs I got the book Into The Heart.
So much music, so little time!
Nicky McMillan
Joshua Tree.
It has been said the new album "All That You Can't Leave Behind" is
influenced by the Beatles so maybe that's something Beatles fans may like.
Yes soo much music soo little time i know the feeling!
Nicky
"Diana" <amara...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Nicstar
>
>Nicky
hello!
Fancy seeing you here..........LOL
CHEERS:)
Nicstar, the io.maillist.u2 Hangman Champion!
.......................................
i can't see what you see when i look at the world.....
Nicky McMillan
time and is very much preachy about stuff.
I'm not quite sure what you meant by the "Vegas" stuff i can only assume
your talking about the "Pop" album and POPMART tour, that stuff did put
allot of people off U2 so your not alone there though allot of people like
George Harrison seemed to miss the whole Sarcastic approach to Popmart, as
Bono said about the tour it was "Making fun out of playing in a large space"
But again not everyone's cup of tea so i can respect anyone's view on that.
I never did quite discover the Spice Girls stuff to be honest maybe i missed
something there!?!? lol.
Nicky
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Nicky McMillan
Good to see your enjoying your prestigious position as the Hangman champion
:-)))
Nicky
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Kev
Sweet Tough Lip wrote:
> Each generation has a special sound associated with youth (which seems to
> start earlier and earlier these days).
Exactly you couldn't have put it any better. I wouldn't say though that U2 were the
sound of this generation cos they're still considered 'unhip' by the trendies in the
music press but they definitely have been my sound in the same way The Beatles were in
your youth. I only hope U2 are regarded the same way in 25 years time that The Beatles
are right now.
By the way less of the virgin comments. Just direct those comments Nicky's way!!! ;-P
Kev
Diana wrote:
> Nicky, George can be very opinionated and rigid in his views. I remember that
> quote, and while I had no argument about the Spice Girls < ::groan::> I wonder
> if George wasn't just picking names out of hat, so to speak. My impression is
> that the only active rock groups George knows are the ones his son, Dhani,
> listens to like the Black Crowes. (Just my impression; I could be wrong.)
Yeah well U2 were in the middle of the UK leg of Popmart so they were in the news
at the time so you're probably right.
Jeff Troutman
> I grew up listening to U2 (one of the very few my age that does) and U2
> eventually lead me to the Beatles.
> I'm pretty dam sure George doesn't really think U2 are talentless, like
you
> say he must have been having a shite day, I'll give him that.
FYI, another fairly well-known sort who never appreciated U2 was DJ John
Peel. Didn't really diss them; says he didn't understand what the fuss was
about.
>
> I bought Beatles 1 on Monday (my first Beatles album) i bought John
Lennon's
> Imagine a few yrs back which i find soo inspirational.
>
> I'm now only 18yrs old and the Beatles is finally filtering through to me
> and what a great band they are to!
There is nothing quite like the thrill of discovering great music, new or
old. Enjoy!
Jeff Troutman
Kev
Jeff Troutman wrote:
>
>
> FYI, another fairly well-known sort who never appreciated U2 was DJ John
> Peel. Didn't really diss them; says he didn't understand what the fuss was
> about.
Love John Peel's taste in music myself but I don't agree with him there. Cool
guy though and a legend. What's happened to DJ's now??
>
>
>
> There is nothing quite like the thrill of discovering great music, new or
> old. Enjoy!
Yeah I'm 27 and there hasn't been a month gone by in the last 15 years that I
haven't discovered some band that I haven't heard before whilst rifling thru
the CD's in a record store. Costs me a bloody fortune though!!! :-)
>
>
> Jeff Troutman
KTran8859
Try to get up earlier.
Beatles
Nicky McMillan
much time listening to U2 probably
Though I've found time today to take a trip to wollies and take up on there
offer of 2 beatles albums for £12!
Moving in Mysterious Ways....
Nicky
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Nicky McMillan
respect his views although i don't agree with them:)
Yes I still remember the day i went out and bought the Joshua Tree and
discovered the music of U2 then bought the rest of the album set. Great
experience one that I'm going through with your great band the Beatles!
Moving in Mysterious ways and Enjoying the Beatles...
Nicky
"Jeff Troutman" <yourhe...@starpower.net> wrote in message
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> "Nicky McMillan" <ni...@NOSPAMberwickrangers.net> wrote:
>
> FYI, another fairly well-known sort who never appreciated U2 was DJ John
> Peel. Didn't really diss them; says he didn't understand what the fuss
was
> about.
>
> There is nothing quite like the thrill of discovering great music, new or
> old. Enjoy!
>
> Jeff Troutman
>
>
>
Nicky McMillan
probably in my view. Though U2 will stand the test of time i believe and be
regarded as legends in 25 yrs time.
Errrr.....I'm no virgin! that's for sure, though with the Beatles Music I'm
very much so:))
Moving in Mysterious Ways.....
Nicky
"Kev" <"kev"@life should be fragrant.ok> wrote in message
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Jeff Troutman
>
>
>
> >
> >
> > FYI, another fairly well-known sort who never appreciated U2 was DJ John
> > Peel. Didn't really diss them; says he didn't understand what the fuss
was
> > about.
>
Cool
> guy though and a legend. What's happened to DJ's now??
Peel said the same thing about Dire Straits, as I recall.
As for DJs, I can't speak for the UK, but it's a bad situation in the US.
Radio stations are just part of conglomerates now, and the DJs rarely if
ever get to pick what they play. And it's like they have to be louder and
more obnoxious just to prove that they aren't a computer, and to shock
people into paying attention. There are still some good public and college
stations around, though.
>
> >
> >
> >
> > There is nothing quite like the thrill of discovering great music, new
or
> > old. Enjoy!
>
> Yeah I'm 27 and there hasn't been a month gone by in the last 15 years
that I
> haven't discovered some band that I haven't heard before whilst rifling
thru
> the CD's in a record store. Costs me a bloody fortune though!!! :-)
>
Believe me, I know. But it's worth it. :)
Jeff Troutman
Some Other Guy
Years Day, I was taken. After that, they sunk as far as I'm concerned. THey had some good stuff
since, but they seem to think they were better than they really were. When they played on a rooftop
(as the Beatles did in 1969), I lost all respect for them. Who do they think they are? That was so
"Oasis" of them. They are no Beatles, that is for sure.
Tony
On Fri, 17 Nov 2000 22:20:46 -0000, "Nicky McMillan" <ni...@NOSPAMberwickrangers.net> wrote:
>Hey!
>I've only decided to post a message on this NG as I wanted to get some
>feedback on a certain subject. I'm not a troll or don't intend to flame i
>just want to put across a few points then hear your views on the matter.
>
>I'm a regular poster on the alt.u2.fan NG and the following link was posted
>earlier tonight.
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_583000/583411.stm
>
>George has again publicly attacked U2 for what he believes U2 are surviving
>on big ego's and are talentless. He's put U2 in the same birth as the Spice
>girls commenting he doesn't think U2 will be remembered in 30 yrs.
>
>Not for the first time he's made these comments he did so originally back in
>97 when U2 were touring the UK.
>Basically i just wanted to know weather this is the thought of majority of
>Beatles fans that U2 are talentless and live on big hats and egos.
>Fair enough that is his view and maybe yours i don't agree with these
>comments obviously I would just like to know what he or yourself basis his
>comments on?
>
>I'm not a Beatles fan there music doesn't appeal to me just like for many of
>you U2 may not appeal to you but if you do agree with George's comments i
>would like to hear of your reasons just out of curiosity for why you believe
>U2 are talentless maybe i'll get a better understanding of how George came
>about to make these statements
>
>Look forward to your comments
>
>Thanks
>
>Nicky
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Strabbo
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> Read your link again closely. These comments were made in 1992. These
are
> not recent comments.
>
>
Actually, I believe John may have written the statement, but George was the
one that was heard to speak it. Quite a premonition too; more than 15 years
before U2's first record....
"Before this dance is through, I think I'll love U2...."
Nicky McMillan
Moving in Mysterious Ways...
Nicky
"Strabbo" <str...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Nicky McMillan
band after the War album as many fans still can't see past that era of the
band. But the band didn't hit real world wide commercial success until after
Live Aid and from the Joshua Tree album.
But again that's your view that i respect.
U2 now have played 2 rooftops gigs, and Bono has been quoted as saying they
were inspired by the Beatles so I don't see your problem there.
U2 have made some real cock ups Rattle & Hum being the most public but i
don't see the roof top performances of 87 and 2000 being one of those.
As for being the Beatles U2 will be one of the first to say they wouldn't be
around if it weren't for the Beatles and others (comments Bono made on
stage) but at the same time I've not noticed U2 trying to be the Beatles or
have they ever commented that they are in the same birth as the Beatles.
Nicky
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Kev
Jeff Troutman wrote:
> "Kev" <"kev"@life should be fragrant.ok> wrote:
>
>
>
> Peel said the same thing about Dire Straits, as I recall.
Good!!!! They deserve it!!! ;-))
>
>
>
Diana
><<So much music, so little time! >>
>
>Try to get up earlier.
LOL! (Nights are more fun.)
Diana
>If you get the time Diana check out "The Unforgettable Fire" if you like the
>Joshua Tree.
>It has been said the new album "All That You Can't Leave Behind" is
>influenced by the Beatles so maybe that's something Beatles fans may like.
Thanks Nicky! It's on my ever-growing list.
>Yes soo much music soo little time i know the feeling!
Music and books. Can't keep up with either. But what a nice "problem" to
have!
ObBeatles: From ananova.com, dated Nov 17 2000:
Bruce Spizer is one of America's foremost authorities on the "Fab Four" and
author of several books about the Beatles, including the recently released The
Beatles' Story On Capitol Records, Part One: Beatlemania & The Singles and The
Beatles' Story On Capitol Records, Part Two: The Albums.
LAUNCH asked Spizer what he thought about the attack on Harrison last year and
the recent court decision. "I think all three of them, after John [Lennon] was
shot, probably were looking over their shoulders and, as time went on, they
were able to lose that sense of, 'Gee, am I going to be the next Beatle that
some maniac's gonna try to kill?' And unfortunately, the incident with George,
brings it back into the spotlight again. And now we have a situation where,
unfortunately, they are going to have to be a little bit more careful, and it's
unfortunate that one would have to live life like that."
Lord Hasenpfeffer
>
> Each generation has a special sound associated with youth (which seems to
> Sinatra and Ella and the Andrews Sisters and the Inkspots and Benny
> Goodman. For me, it was the Fab Four. You lot like U2 and George doesn't
> (or didn't - he could have been having a rotten day when he made the
> crack, too) but it's no big whoop. Lots of our middle-aged generation get
> cranky about this "Group X will go on forever" stuff...
I'm 34 have done my best to be as multi-generational as possible in my
lifetime. I think it's been easier for me to do this because as a
teenager I was friends with 1st Gen Beatles fans yet I'm not so old now
that I turn my back on all that's new either.
I was late to catch on to what U2 was all about - I'm a member of the
"Joshua Tree" generation - and I have an intense love for most all that
U2 recorded between 1980 and 1987, however, since 1988's "Rattle And
Hum" I've only cared to listen to U2 with one ear to the wall. I own
both "Zooropa" and "Pop" but think they suck big green donkey dongs.
"All The Things You Can't Leave Behind" is the first new U2 album I've
actually looked forward to buying since "Achtung Baby" 8 years ago. I
think they're definitely back on the right track musically now but the
new one's a bit ballad-heavy for me to fully embrace it like I embraced
"The Joshua Tree" back in '87.
Myke
Lord Hasenpfeffer
>
> If you get the time Diana check out "The Unforgettable Fire" if you like the
> Joshua Tree.
But be sure to check out "Wide Awake In America" too. It's the 4-track
EP companion to "The Unforgettable Fire" which features the live version
of "Bad" which blows the album's studio version completely out of the
water. "Bad" live is the best song U2's ever recorded, IMO, even if
Bono's vocal medley has been edited out of it to make the song legally
available for sale on record without the need to pay huge royalties to
everybody under the sun.
Myke
Lord Hasenpfeffer
>
> As for DJs, I can't speak for the UK, but it's a bad situation in the US.
> Radio stations are just part of conglomerates now, and the DJs rarely if
> ever get to pick what they play. And it's like they have to be louder and
> more obnoxious just to prove that they aren't a computer, and to shock
> people into paying attention. There are still some good public and college
> stations around, though.
That plus I have a rather large collection of KROQ tapes recorded
between 1982 and 1989! :-)
Myke
Lord Hasenpfeffer
>
> Yes I still remember the day i went out and bought the Joshua Tree and
> discovered the music of U2 then bought the rest of the album set. Great
> experience one that I'm going through with your great band the Beatles!
It sounds as if you discovered U2 exactly like I did. When did you buy
"The Joshua Tree"?
U2 said in 1987 that was the best album they'd recorded to date but it
wouldn't be the best album they'd ever record. I'm still waiting for
them to make good on that promise!
Myke
Lord Hasenpfeffer
>
> So what is the sound of this Generation? Blur Oasis, Radiohead etc most
> probably in my view. Though U2 will stand the test of time i believe and be
> regarded as legends in 25 yrs time.
Blur, Oasis and Radiohead were the last generation's sound, IMO.
AFAICS, the kids today really dig Ricky, Britney and Christina a little
more or less than N'Sync and The Backend Boys - none of whom actually
write their own material or play instruments on their recordings.
Myke
Lord Hasenpfeffer
>
> Again i would most probably agree that Bono is very pretentious a lot of the
> time and is very much preachy about stuff.
I used to think he was kewl with all that political consciousness and
stuff until I heard "Articulate Speech Of The Heart" where he proclaims
that "Ronald Reagan is the problem" - and then on my August 1992
Rockline tape, he converses with Bill Clinton live from his campaign
tour bus for damn near 20 minutes before telling him, "You *sound* like
a president!" Gag.
Ross Perot was right in 1992 about that "giant sucking sound", however,
as we all now know, NAFTA wasn't (going to be) the cause of it.
> I'm not quite sure what you meant by the "Vegas" stuff
Macphisto(sp?) maybe?
> i can only assume your talking about the "Pop" album and POPMART tour,
> that stuff did put a lot of people off U2 so your not alone there
That's funny. All I've ever heard about POPMART was that it was the
highest grossing rock concert tour in history. (However that came to
be, I have no idea.)
> though allot of people like George Harrison seemed to miss the whole Sarcastic
> approach to Popmart, as Bono said about the tour it was "Making fun out of playing
> in a large space"
I think since "Rattle And Hum" U2's just been out of really good career
direction ideas. I mean, "Rattle and Hum"? "Achtung Baby"?
"Zooropa"? "Pop"? What kinds of album titles are those? Very
uninspired ones, I'd say.
Myke
Lord Hasenpfeffer
>
> Interesting comments again...your not alone with your thoughts about the
> band after the War album as many fans still can't see past that era of the
> band. But the band didn't hit real world wide commercial success until after
> Live Aid and from the Joshua Tree album.
I'm one of the lucky few people I've ever known to have a really decent
copy of U2's entire Live Aid performance. I didn't get to see it until
summer 1988. When I finally did, though, I couldn't believe my eyes!
How kewl if was of Bono to do what he did that day! That was definitely
one of rock's most historic moments, IMO.
> U2 have made some real cock ups Rattle & Hum being the most public
I just think it's stupid if you're gonna do a Beatles cover that
millions of people know by heart and make it the first song on your
album, the *least* you could do is get the damn lyrics right!
"Y'ain't no lover but ya ain't no dancer..." What the hell's up with
that? That's not even sensible English! It's "You *may be* a lover but
you ain't no dancer!" If that's the best "stealin' it back" they're
capable of, I'd say let Manson keep it! Sheesh. "Rattle And Hum"
should have kicked off with "Hawkmook 269" and those first two tracks
should have been completely omitted from the album!
> As for being the Beatles U2 will be one of the first to say they wouldn't be
> around if it weren't for the Beatles
KISS is another...
Myke
Nicstar who is female
when something you love so much has been misqoted.......
All That You Can't Leave Behind
:o)
CHEERS:)
Nicstar
ronct
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> Nicky, George can be very opinionated and rigid in his views.
Yeah, I've always noticed this too! He seems to have a real problem that he
never came out from John & Paul's shadow. He should just to terms with
himself that he's not in the same league. Its ok...not many are.
ronct
Doug Campbell
Huh? So he doesn't like U2....he's not obligated to. Should I assume
you folks don't hold any opinions about bands or are you just operating
under the 'if you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at
all' maxim? That may be fine for some social interactions but I would
give GH some license in this regard as music is his career and life's
work. He didn't say anything about the character of the people in the
group, just that their music sucked. With respect to any fans present I
agree and appreciate his forthrightness.
Anyway, what's wrong with opinionated and rigid? Thank God for
curmudgeons like George and Keith and Zappa, with their terrific ability
to speak plainly, humorously and cut clean through.
DC
"For starters, I don't like your tie"
Nicky McMillan
available on any U2 release and the version that appears on the "Wide Awake
In America" EP is known as the sister to the live aid version. I Could
listen to that tune live for hours, I've not listened to the studio version
for yonks!
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title wrong at some point! its a mouth full!
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>
> George has again publicly attacked U2 for what he believes U2 are
surviving
> on big ego's and are talentless. He's put U2 in the same birth as the
Spice
> girls commenting he doesn't think U2 will be remembered in 30 yrs.
>
> Not for the first time he's made these comments he did so originally
back in
> 97 when U2 were touring the UK.
> Basically i just wanted to know weather this is the thought of
majority of
> Beatles fans that U2 are talentless and live on big hats and egos.
> Fair enough that is his view and maybe yours i don't agree with these
> comments obviously I would just like to know what he or yourself
basis his
> comments on?
>
> Nicky
>
>The reason Harrison does not like U2 stems from U2's involvement in a
secret society that accuses the Beatles of being part of the Helter
Skelter Conspiracy. See www.elvis-conspiracy.com for details.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
Homer J
(Nicstar who is female) loose on on a computer... and the unfortunate
result was:
>Don't mean to be picky, but I am sure you understand how frustrating it can be
>when something you love so much has been misqoted.......
>
>All That You Can't Leave Behind
I thought it was All that you Don't leave behind???
Homer J
Take off your panties to email me...
Homer-cam: www.geocities.com/acktoong & www.u2fancams.com
Nicstar who is female
>
>Homer J
>
>Take off your panties to email me...
>
>Homer-cam: www.geocities.com/acktoong & www.u2fancams.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Homer!!!!!!!!!
You trying to send me crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!
Homer J
(Nicstar who is female) loose on on a computer... and the unfortunate
result was:
>ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>Homer!!!!!!!!!
>
>You trying to send me crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!
'send you crazy'... hmm... can it be done a second time?
:-]
Nicstar who is female
>
>'send you crazy'... hmm... can it be done a second time?
>:-]
>
>Homer J
RIGHT!
THATS IT!
STOP BY THE TIME I GET TO 3.....
1.......2.......2 1/2........
Homer J
(Nicstar who is female) loose on on a computer... and the unfortunate
result was:
>RIGHT!
>
>THATS IT!
>
>STOP BY THE TIME I GET TO 3.....
>1.......2.......2 1/2........
Okay, I better... otherwise I'll just keep on going!
I have a bad habit of stirring ppl up.
Heh..
Lord Hasenpfeffer
>
> Don't mean to be picky, but I am sure you understand how frustrating it can be
> when something you love so much has been misqoted.......
>
> All That You Can't Leave Behind
> :o)
Um, what?
Are we talking about my getting the album title wrong in the other
thread or what?
I caught the error but the Send button was too fast for me.
Myke
Jeff Troutman
IMO, they did it in 1991, with _Achtung Baby_. It and _Boy_ remain my fave
U2 discs.
Jeff Troutman
Jeff Troutman
> Good Call!!!!! The Live Aid version is the ultimate "Bad" but its not
> available on any U2 release and the version that appears on the "Wide
Awake
> In America" EP is known as the sister to the live aid version. I Could
> listen to that tune live for hours, I've not listened to the studio
version
> for yonks!
>
In '92 or so, I won every U2 CD of the time in a radio contest, and that EP
was part of the package. Fantastic disc. I really like the version of "A
Sort Of Homecoming" on it, too. The studio tracks are good enough that I've
wondered why U2 didn't produce themselves more often.
The studio version of "Bad" is still good, but should have been produced by
someone else. The ambient Eno/Lanois approach only hinders it's power.
Jeff Troutman
Jeff Troutman
>
> I'm one of the lucky few people I've ever known to have a really decent
> copy of U2's entire Live Aid performance. I didn't get to see it until
> summer 1988. When I finally did, though, I couldn't believe my eyes!
> How kewl if was of Bono to do what he did that day! That was definitely
> one of rock's most historic moments, IMO.
Yep. It's amazing. In the days when I had connections, I made a tape for a
friend with the Live Aid and US Festival performances along with an
October-era club gig. Strong stuff.
>
> > U2 have made some real cock ups Rattle & Hum being the most public
>
> I just think it's stupid if you're gonna do a Beatles cover that
> millions of people know by heart and make it the first song on your
> album, the *least* you could do is get the damn lyrics right!
>
> "Y'ain't no lover but ya ain't no dancer..." What the hell's up with
> that? That's not even sensible English! It's "You *may be* a lover but
> you ain't no dancer!" If that's the best "stealin' it back" they're
> capable of, I'd say let Manson keep it! Sheesh.
It's sad. What's even sadder is that Motley Crue's version of the tune is
actually *better* than U2's. Now that's hitting a career low.
Jeff Troutman
The Walrus was Danny
the
> time and is very much preachy about stuff.
This irritates the hell out of me, about Bono that is. Did you ever read his
"poem" printed in Q magazine a few years ago, it was embarrassing.
Not wishing to diss em too much, I saw them in Birmingham on the "October"
tour and they were OK.
Danny
Kev
The Walrus was Danny wrote:
> > Again i would most probably agree that Bono is very pretentious allot of
> the
> > time and is very much preachy about stuff.
>
> This irritates the hell out of me, about Bono that is. Did you ever read his
> "poem" printed in Q magazine a few years ago, it was embarrassing.
Was this the one that they eventually turned into a 'song' for the Passengers
project called Elvis Ate America?? I love U2 more than any other band but that
was a lot of crap really wasn't it!!
>
>
> Not wishing to diss em too much, I saw them in Birmingham on the "October"
> tour and they were OK.
Showing your age a bit now aren't you ;-P
I'd have loved to have seen them that early but for now I'll just make do with
the bootlegs!!
>
>
> Danny
Nicky McMillan
wasn't the intent of my original post, I wanted to find out if that was the
general view of all Beatles fans obviously this thread has proved that the
HG comments has divided Beatles fans also and what has turned out to be an
interesting thread.
I would like to correct you though...Yes GH did make reference to the
characters of the band members, "Egocentered" he also said that U2 were
living on "Big hats, Big heads and Lemons" i don't think that has anything
to do with the music.
Nothing wrong with someone handing out constructive criticism but i don't
think some of GH quotes were very constructive. That was why i posted a few
questions on the matter and i must say have been answered tremendously and i
can take criticism of U2 as you maybe have noticed from other posts I've
made because not every person or band is perfect.
Peace on Earth
Nicky
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Nicky McMillan
I discovered U2 in the early 90's, the unique sounding "I Still Haven't
Found What I'm looking For" was the first ever song that got me interested
in music. It sounded soo different to anything i had heard before.
It wasn't till 95 and i watched the live aid rerun on July 13th 1995, I went
out and bought the Joshua Tree (on recommendation of my mum) i fell in love
with the band from that day.
Well for me the first 3 tracks on the JT will not be bettered by U2
themselves but i do feel the new album is a better album more complete than
the JT.
Nicky
"Lord Hasenpfeffer" <my...@upp.com> wrote in message
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>
> It sounds as if you discovered U2 exactly like I did. When did you buy
> "The Joshua Tree"?
>
> U2 said in 1987 that was the best album they'd recorded to date but it
> wouldn't be the best album they'd ever record. I'm still waiting for
> them to make good on that promise!
>
> Myke
Nicky McMillan
>
> That's funny. All I've ever heard about POPMART was that it was the
> highest grossing rock concert tour in history. (However that came to
> be, I have no idea.)
Maybe because 1.8 million tickets were sold for the tour, and might i add
high ticket prices!
> I think since "Rattle And Hum" U2's just been out of really good career
> direction ideas. I mean, "Rattle and Hum"? "Achtung Baby"?
> "Zooropa"? "Pop"? What kinds of album titles are those? Very
> uninspired ones, I'd say.
Well that is indeed your view,
I would agree with you with R&H though i love the AB & Zooropa titles it
takes away the U2 all serious band tag away i think. as Bono said its arty
stuff and indeed is not to everybody's tastes.
POP well the less said about that the better! lol
Nicky
Nicky McMillan
book would be a funny read im sure but i aint shelling out for it! Anyone
out there going to tell me what U2's involvement in this is?
Nicky
<king_...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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Kev
Nicky McMillan wrote:
> "Lord Hasenpfeffer" <my...@upp.com> wrote in message
> news:3A1765BE...@upp.com...
> >
> > That's funny. All I've ever heard about POPMART was that it was the
> > highest grossing rock concert tour in history. (However that came to
> > be, I have no idea.)
>
> Maybe because 1.8 million tickets were sold for the tour, and might i add
> high ticket prices!
To be honest Nicky I thought the prices for the Edinburgh show were pretty
average for a top band playing a stadium gig. In fact it was a lot cheaper
than most and remember U2 don't kiss any corporate arse so there is no
sponsorship on the tours ever
>
>
> > I think since "Rattle And Hum" U2's just been out of really good career
> > direction ideas. I mean, "Rattle and Hum"?
Line from Bullet The Blue Sky. Don't like the album and I think I'm sure the
band have dissed this title themselves. It was first and foremost a movie
remember but I spose it's a crap name for a movie too!! :-)
> "Achtung Baby"? "Zooropa"? "Pop"? What kinds of album titles are those?
> Very uninspired ones, I'd say.
Like Nicky I agree it's your opinion and I respect that but can you really say
a band are uninspired because of their album titles. I don't think so.
Personally I love those titles.
>
>
> POP well the less said about that the better! lol
You liar Nicky you told me you liked that album!!! Ya sooky wee shite!!! ;-P
>
>
>
Lord Hasenpfeffer
>
> Maybe because 1.8 million tickets were sold for the tour, and might i add
> high ticket prices!
Yep, that probably had something to do with it. Funny thing is, I can
remember hearing in the 1980s that U2 always charged amazingly small
prices for their tickets because they didn't want many people to not be
able to come to their shows. I haven't seen any tickets from the day
but the word I heard was that a U2 ticket was always priced at or under
US$10.00.
Furthermore, in the 1980s U2 used to pride themselves on having a
stripped down stage show. They could rock as good as anybody without
the assistance of flashy gimmicks. "Under A Blood Red Sky" is an
excellent example of the truth behind this claim. However, as soon as
that damned 'Zoo TV' thing started up, I started questioning their
validity and sincerity as a band because it was *so* over the top and in
diametric opposition to what they'd been saying they were all about all
along.
> I would agree with you with R&H though i love the AB & Zooropa titles it
> takes away the U2 all serious band tag away i think. as Bono said its arty
> stuff and indeed is not to everybody's tastes.
"Numb" kicked me in the butt and still does every time I play it, but
that's the only thing on "Zooropa" that ever did.
> POP well the less said about that the better! lol
Interestingly, I like "Pop" better than "Zooropa" but neither of them
are very good albums overall.
Despite our differences in opinion, I kinda get the feeling we're on
pretty much the same page.
Myke
Lord Hasenpfeffer
>
> Yep. It's amazing. In the days when I had connections, I made a tape for a
> friend with the Live Aid and US Festival performances along with an
> October-era club gig. Strong stuff.
U2 played USF? Hmmm... I wasn't aware of that.
You've got/seen a *video* of a show from the October tour? Kewl!
Didn't know any existed.
Myke
sha...@my-deja.com
> If you get the time Diana check out "The Unforgettable Fire" if you
like the
> Joshua Tree.
> It has been said the new album "All That You Can't Leave Behind" is
> influenced by the Beatles so maybe that's something Beatles fans may
like.
I'm a huge fan of both U2 and the Beatles. I think U2 have something
about them which the Beatles never had. However, I think the Beatles
had about 3 or 4 things about them which U2 don't have :)
Unforgettable Fire and Joshua Tree really are U2's peak. I got the new
album the other day, and I have listened to it constantly since, but I
don't see any specific Beatles influence in it. I think it is more of a
look back to Achtung Baby.
One thing which the latest U2 album really has underlined to me is that
they are keeping it VERY simple these days - there are 3 or 4 songs on
it which have basically the same chord progression. This can be seen as
a virtue or... And the overall formula seems the same. They have Eno,
Lillywhite and Lanois back again, so of course it sounds beautiful, but
it always does with those guys. I think they've all played it safe and
relied on the same old ingredients.
In comparison to the Beatles (which seems to be the point of the whole
thread really) I would say that this scenario never happened with them.
There is always new harmonic ground broken on every beatles album (for
them at least).
In U2's defense, they are now 10 years older than the beatles were when
they broke up. Who knows how samey it would have gotten if the Beatles
were still producing records together in 1980 ?
Nicky McMillan
"Kev" <"kev"@life should be fragrant.ok> wrote in message
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>
> To be honest Nicky I thought the prices for the Edinburgh show were pretty
> average for a top band playing a stadium gig. In fact it was a lot cheaper
> than most and remember U2 don't kiss any corporate arse so there is no
> sponsorship on the tours ever
Oh yeah the fact they didn't kiss ass I understand that the ticket prices
were going to be high but for a 16 yr old paying £28 for a ticket was ALLOT
of money to me then.
Though i would be more than happy to pay that again to see U2 now.
>
> You liar Nicky you told me you liked that album!!! Ya sooky wee shite!!!
;-P
I was refereing to the album title kev. I love the album itself its up there
with my fave U2 albums!
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Lord Hasenpfeffer
>
> I'm a huge fan of both U2 and the Beatles. I think U2 have something
> about them which the Beatles never had. However, I think the Beatles
> had about 3 or 4 things about them which U2 don't have :)
:-)
> Unforgettable Fire and Joshua Tree really are U2's peak. I got the new
> album the other day, and I have listened to it constantly since, but I
> don't see any specific Beatles influence in it. I think it is more of a
> look back to Achtung Baby.
"Achtung Baby" had more dirt and grit than this new one does. ATYCLB
has a much more polished sound and feel about it. If I could say
anything bad about it, I'd say it's a bit "too relaxed and mellow".
However, it's got so much more of that traditional U2 style that that
doesn't bother me much. A nice, loud "God, Part III" would have been
kewl though! :-)
> I think they've all played it safe and relied on the same old ingredients.
Fine with me. Because of it I'm able to enjoy playing the latest U2
album again for the first time in about 8 years.
Myke
Lord Hasenpfeffer
>
> I discovered U2 in the early 90's, the unique sounding "I Still Haven't
> Found What I'm looking For" was the first ever song that got me interested
> in music.
Wow! That's different.
> It wasn't till 95 and i watched the live aid rerun on July 13th 1995,
I didn't see that rerun but I have tapes of it. What an injustice they
did to U2's performance by inserting all that dialog and interview crap
right in the middle of the thing Bono did on/offstage that day! I've
got a 1st gen copy of a VHS master recorded while Live Aid was actually
happening. It's nice to be able to see the whole performance
uninterrupted except for that 1-2 second satellite transmission glitch
that happened right in the middle of "Bad"...
> I went out and bought the Joshua Tree (on recommendation of my mum)
> i fell in love with the band from that day.
May I ask of you your age? Just curious.
> Well for me the first 3 tracks on the JT will not be bettered by U2
> themselves but i do feel the new album is a better album more complete than
> the JT.
I dunno. "Bullet The Blue Sky", "Running To Stand Still" and "Exit"
have it easily beat, IMO.
I really like "Elevation" but Bono's voice sounds like it's been totally
destroyed by that chain smoking habit of which he's apparently
particularly and overly fond.
Myke
Lord Hasenpfeffer
>
> Good Call!!!!! The Live Aid version is the ultimate "Bad" but its not
> available on any U2 release and the version that appears on the "Wide Awake
> In America" EP is known as the sister to the live aid version. I Could
> listen to that tune live for hours, I've not listened to the studio version
> for yonks!
No, me either. I recently compiled a pair of MiniDiscs featuring all of
my favourite U2 tracks from 1980-1990 which are *not* included in my
"Best of 1980-1990 / The B-Sides" 2CD set. Naturally when I got to the
"Unforgettable Fire" / "Wide Awake..." era, I simply had to use the live
versions of "A Sort Of Homecoming" and "Bad" in place of the studio ones
(even though I don't dislike the studio version of the former like I do
the latter). "Three Sunrises" and "Love Comes Tumbling" are also
definitely in there. I think those should have definitely been on the
album. Instead they put that dumb "4th of July" thing on there plus a
few other lessers... Dunno why.
My wife just had to try and be funny one day a few years ago though and
point out to me that when Bono sings the "in temptation, isolation,
desolation" bit in "Bad" that he sounds just like Adam Sandler doing
"Cajun Man" on Saturday Nite Live! I wish she'd have never told me
that! I've not been able to hear it the same way since! Rrrrrrrr!!!!
But here I am telling you about it now too, so... Sorry! I just
couldn't stand the "i-so-la-shon" and resist the "temp-ta-shon" any
longer!! :)
Myke
Lord Hasenpfeffer
>
> Good Call!!!!! The Live Aid version is the ultimate "Bad" but its not
> available on any U2 release and the version that appears on the "Wide Awake
> In America" EP is known as the sister to the live aid version.
The only problem with the Live Aid performance is that it has to be seen
to be enjoyed. If you just listen to the audio of the band playing
"Bad" while Bono was offstage doing his thing, it gets really *boring*
becuase they just play the same riffs and rhythms over and over and over
again for like 5 minutes until Bono gets his ass back up onstage and
finishes it off!
Have you ever seen a straight-thru video of U2 at Live Aid as it
actually went down? Or have you only seen the hacked-up VH1 rerun from
1995?
Myke
Nicky McMillan
myself.
Though everything in the mail properties suggests it was me that sent it.
But I'm not a member of either of those other artists I've supposed to have
mailed this to!
Strange!
Nicky
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>
Nicky McMillan
> I didn't see that rerun but I have tapes of it. What an injustice they
> did to U2's performance by inserting all that dialog and interview crap
> right in the middle of the thing Bono did on/offstage that day! I've
> got a 1st gen copy of a VHS master recorded while Live Aid was actually
> happening. It's nice to be able to see the whole performance
> uninterrupted except for that 1-2 second satellite transmission glitch
> that happened right in the middle of "Bad"...
Lucky Bugger!!!
>
> May I ask of you your age? Just curious.
I'm 18, 19 in May
Nicky
Nicky McMillan
Nicky
"Nicky McMillan" <ni...@NOSPAMberwickrangers.net> wrote in message
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Nicky McMillan
crap just after your reply!
Nicky
"Nicstar who is female" <nics...@aol.comKNIGHTS> wrote in message
news:20001120000517...@ng-fr1.aol.com...
Lord Hasenpfeffer
>
> IMO, they did it in 1991, with _Achtung Baby_. It and _Boy_ remain my fave
> U2 discs.
We'll have to agree to disagree on that first point and half of the 2nd
one.
Now, in my household my wife *hates* "Achtung Baby" and I'm the one
who's constantly running to its defense, so it's not like I don't like
that album or anything but IMO it's got *nothing* on "The Joshua Tree"
when it comes to attitude, spirit, heart and soul.
The problem I have with "Achtung Baby" is that the best tracks from
those sessions were kept off the album and released as bonus tracks on
the CD-singles!! I can do completely without "Acrobat" and "Love Is
Blindness" being on that album. Had they just put those on the
CD-singles and included "Salome'" and "Lady With The Spinning Head"
instead, I'd be in total agreement with you that it's better than "The
Joshua Tree". As it is, though, it just doesn't make it that far in my
book. "Zoo Station" kicks ass at the beginning but the compression and
distortion added to Bono's voice on that one just ruins it for me
completely. Also, I much prefer the Solar Plexus Club Remix version of
"Mysterious Ways" on that CD-single than the lameass album version.
There's just something about the drum sample lifted from The Steve
Miller Band's "Take The Money And Run" that makes MW just spring to
life. Also, "Who's Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses" is an excellent tune
but the phony Phil Spector-ish Wall of Sound production on it just kills
its impact. The cleaner, less-produced CD-single version is vastly
superior.
I think here in the next few days I'm gonna dig out my CD-singles and
build a MiniDisc consisting of my own ultimate Frankensteinian version
of "Achtung Baby" just so I can have a version of it which I can
actually enjoy all the way through for once.
And FWIW, in case you care to know, my favourite track on AB is "So
Cruel"...
Myke
Lord Hasenpfeffer
>
> Its "All That You Can't Leave Behind" don't worry everybody has got this
> title wrong at some point! its a mouth full!
Yeah, I never seemed to have any trouble remembering "Pop" and
"Zooropa". Even "Achtung Baby" was easy to master after I'd heard it
only once. But this new one, man... It's almost as bad as Sinead
O'Connor's "I Still Do Not Want What I Haven't Got"... (I think that
was a reference to her hair or something, I dunno.)
Myke
Dr George Christos
But you don't know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?
You don't suffer from multiple personality disorder do you?
Nicky McMillan wrote:
--
Dr George Christos, DPhil(Oxon) 1981
Department of Mathematics and Statistics
Curtin University of Technology
GPO BOX U1987
Perth WA 6845
Australia
current research interests: attractor neural networks, memory
and learning, function of REM/dream sleep, the brain.
Dr George Christos
list. the only meesages are the two in which you ask waht the f is going
on. george
Nicky McMillan wrote:
--
Stephen Carter
<my...@upp.com> wrote:
>Nicky McMillan wrote:
>>
>> Interesting comments again...your not alone with your thoughts about the
>> band after the War album as many fans still can't see past that era of the
>> band. But the band didn't hit real world wide commercial success until after
>> Live Aid and from the Joshua Tree album.
>
>I'm one of the lucky few people I've ever known to have a really decent
>copy of U2's entire Live Aid performance.
I used to have a senior job in a UK university - involved in
making serious decisions about buying computers, maintenance
etc.
To my dismay (irony!) I was never offered anything like a
'bribe' - but did get the odd pen etc.
The *nicest* thing I ever got was at about the time of Live
Aid. At the time we were negotiating a change of
maintenance supplier.
I happend to mention in general conversation that I'd been
out of the country when Live Aid was on (although I did
literally bump into BB King at Pisa Airport a week later).
A few days later one of the engineers delivered 4 video
tapes - the entire Live Aid on video. :-)
--
st...@stephencarterNOSPAM.net
Nothing is Beatle Proof!!
JayDee
<chri...@cs.curtin.edu.au> wrote:
>Because something is happening here
>But you don't know what it is
>Do you, Mister Jones?
it's that camel from Marias' oasis
...it IS after midnite, ya-know
getting put-out in the cold would make you frown, too
Lord Hasenpfeffer
>
> > I've got a 1st gen copy of a VHS master recorded while Live Aid was
> > actually happening.
>
Yep, I do often feel quite lucky because of it. Fortunately, I'm not
stingy with my stuff either. I do have 2 VHS HiFi VCRs and I do make
copies.
> May I ask of you your age? Just curious.
>
> I'm 18, 19 in May
Aw, man! 19 was my best year! If yours is set to be anything like
mine, you'd better gear up for the time of your life! It only happens
once!
Myke
Steve Hawk
was sent.
> nicky, the original scrambled messgae didn't even appear in my newsgroup
> list. the only meesages are the two in which you ask waht the f is going
> on. george
>
> Nicky McMillan wrote:
>
> --
> Dr George Christos, DPhil(Oxon) 1981
> Department of Mathematics and Statistics
> Curtin University of Technology
> GPO BOX U1987
> Perth WA 6845
> Australia
>
> current research interests: attractor neural networks, memory
> and learning, function of REM/dream sleep, the brain.
>
> Website: http://www.cs.curtin.edu.au/~christos
>
>
Steve
paramucho
>In U2's defense, they are now 10 years older than the beatles were when
>they broke up. Who knows how samey it would have gotten if the Beatles
>were still producing records together in 1980 ?
I would love the Beatles to have got into the same decadent position.
I don't hold much for this theory that the Beatles should have stopped
playing just so that they wouldn't ruin their perfect record.
It's just unnatural for people to walk away from that when they know
they'll never get the same buzz in any other combination.
Ian
Ross Clement
: George has again publicly attacked U2 for what he believes U2 are surviving
: on big ego's and are talentless. He's put U2 in the same birth as the Spice
: girls commenting he doesn't think U2 will be remembered in 30 yrs.
I don't think that George's comments, if accurately reported, are putting
him in a good light. I don't think UK are anywhere near the Beatles, but
to call them talentless is IMHO unfair.
Cheers,
Ross-c
Lord Hasenpfeffer
>
> I don't think that George's comments, if accurately reported, are putting
> him in a good light. I don't think UK are anywhere near the Beatles, but
> to call them talentless is IMHO unfair.
I think U2 is alright and as one of that group's thick and ordinary
disciples, I say we *burn every George Harrison album we can find* just
to show 'im who's in charge around here!! :-)
Myke
Nicole Johnston
????
Ahhhhhhhh tis too late for me to even try and work this one out!
Steve Hawk <haw...@blazenet.net> wrote in message
news:B63E599B.186A%haw...@blazenet.net...
> Maybe somehow you hit an encoder or scrambler that wouldn't decode after
it
> was sent.
>
> > nicky, the original scrambled messgae didn't even appear in my newsgroup
> > list. the only meesages are the two in which you ask waht the f is going
> > on. george
> >
> > Nicky McMillan wrote:
> >
Nicole Johnston
flipped don't ya???
Nicky McMillan <ni...@NOSPAMberwickrangers.net> wrote in message
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Lord Hasenpfeffer
>
> A few days later one of the engineers delivered 4 video
> tapes - the entire Live Aid on video. :-)
Aw, man! Do you still have them?
Do they include INXS' performance at "Oz For Africa" which was aired
just prior to Live Aid?
My tapes have that on them but it seems to be very, very rare since it
technically was not part of Live Aid and most folks hadn't started their
tapes rolling yet.
Myke
Homer J
<nic...@bigpond.com> loose on on a computer... and the unfortunate
result was:
>Okay Nicky understand now........you know I didn't *really* think you had
>flipped don't ya???
I would think he has... All That I Was Looking For is still a pretty
good album IMO.
Homer J
Take off your panties to email me...
Homer-cam: www.geocities.com/acktoong & www.u2fancams.com
Strabbo
> LOL. Its amazing what people do with allot of time on there hands! hehe
that
> book would be a funny read im sure but i aint shelling out for it! Anyone
> out there going to tell me what U2's involvement in this is?
Sure.
U2 just happened to be mentioned by one of the more moronic and less
interesting trolls that happens by these parts sometimes. That's about the
extent of their involvement.
Nicstar
>good album IMO.
>
>Homer J
>
Homer, get out of here with that title crap......ahhhhhh well hang
on.......<heading back to add to the compilation....>
CHEERS:)
Nicstar
lalalalalalaaaaaaaa
Stephen Carter
<my...@upp.com> wrote:
>Stephen Carter wrote:
>>
>> A few days later one of the engineers delivered 4 video
>> tapes - the entire Live Aid on video. :-)
>
>Aw, man! Do you still have them?
Yes indeed! :-)
>
>Do they include INXS' performance at "Oz For Africa" which was aired
>just prior to Live Aid?
Nope. I'm in the UK so I have the UK airing.
I have a separate *audio* recording (from the BBC) of the
"missing" bit of 'Let it Be' when Paul's mike was off.
Ltb3105
>osrl mup bab mdku lpba hev mj?
FUCK! It's STILL going on!!!!!
Laura B.
Ltb3105
>
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>anedel lducpfc zjea fml pesled i bdocomi rstebnt ppbct!
>
Kindly do me a favor, and FUCK OFF, Troll Bastards!!!!!!!!!