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John Paul George and Ringo in that order?

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Gallard

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Jul 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/22/99
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It's also the order in which the band was formed.
John brought in Paul, Paul brought in George and they all brought in Ringo.

MBall99551 <mball...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> when you think about the leader of the group it always comes to mind that
this
> is the order the beatles will always be remembered in john paul george
ringo

MBall99551

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Jul 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/23/99
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BigStar303

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Jul 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/23/99
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<< when you think about the leader of the group it always comes to mind that
this
is the order the beatles will always be remembered in john paul george ringo >>


I think simply because the *sound* of the names "flows" better than any other
order. The one-syllable names are grouped together, with the two-syllable name
on its own.

I can recall hearing a tape of a press conference somewhere with the four of
them chanting "Ringo, John, Paul, George" in unison. Same theory. I don't
really think there's any more significance than that.

John Varda

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Jul 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/23/99
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In article <3797...@news2.foxinternet.net>, "Gallard"
<gal...@foxinternet.net> wrote:

> It's also the order in which the band was formed.
> John brought in Paul, Paul brought in George and they all brought in Ringo.

Then Ringo brought me in, but everybody forgot that. I had a couple good
tunes (Peace of Mind, HelterSkelter Long version, Sour Milk Sea, Colliding
Circles) but they never got round to releasing them. Ah well, maybe
Anthology 4 will correct the oversight.

Jcat

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Klskcs1

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Jul 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/23/99
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Ringo is probably more memorable than George.

kristin

Palaka

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Jul 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/24/99
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Does anyone recall that on on the early records... the songwriting credits
read "McCartney/Lennon"....

Why was that and why did it change to "Lennon/McCartney".....

dlarsson

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Jul 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/25/99
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BigStar303 <bigst...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> << when you think about the leader of the group it always comes to mind
that
> this
> is the order the beatles will always be remembered in john paul george
ringo >>
>
>
> I think simply because the *sound* of the names "flows" better than any
other
> order. The one-syllable names are grouped together, with the two-syllable
name
> on its own.


The order was significant in two ways:

1) There was a "pecking order" within the band. As talented
a guitarist/musician, songwriter, and singer as George Harrison
was, the dynamics of the band always left him second bannana
to John & Paul. This was partly due to George being more
'quiet' and shy and also the huge songwriting output and
lead singing roles of John and Paul.

Ringo was, of course, "just the drummer" and the most
substitutable/replaceable member of the four.

2) The Beatles were for the most part a "democracy" and a group
of mostly equals (J/P/G and R) ... but Lennon was
in fact their acknowledged leader during their
formative years (Germany->Carven->'Brian Epstein' period).

Ringo gave a radio interview around the time of
"A Hard Day's Night" where he called John their
leader. EMI/Capitol's own press announcement
for "Meet The Beatles" identifies Lennon as the group
leader, as well as comments made by manager Brian Epstein.

"I always had a gang ... the Beatles became my new gang"
-John Lennon


and so you have: John, Paul, George, and Ringo...

Q: Ok .. with that setlled - Who was the fifth Beatle?

a) George Martin
b) Brian Epstein
c) Neil Apinal
d) Mal Evans
e) Yoko Ono
f) Astrid Kirchherr
g) Klaus Voorman
h) Stuart Sutcliff
i) Magic Alex
j) Jane Asher
k) Dj: Murray the K
l) LSD
m) Dick Lester
n) Geoff Emerick


-Derek

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Derek Larsson EMail: dlar...@erols.com
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Abirnba2

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Jul 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/25/99
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> Ringo gave a radio interview around the time of
> "A Hard Day's Night" where he called John their
> leader. EMI/Capitol's own press announcement
> for "Meet The Beatles" identifies Lennon as the group
> leader, as well as comments made by manager Brian Epstein.
>
ELVIS: You guys sound great, but you've got to get rid of that
Albert Goldman guy. Who's the leader of the group?
PAUL: I'm the leader.
ELVIS: OKay, then, you have to fire him.
PAUL: Oh, the LEADer. JOHN'S the LEADer.

Anyone remember that Saturday Night Live episode?


lstoll

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Jul 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/26/99
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dlarsson wrote <SNIPPED>:

> 2) The Beatles were for the most part a "democracy"
> and a group of mostly equals (J/P/G and R) ...
> but Lennon was in fact their acknowledged leader

> during their formative years...


>
> "I always had a gang ... the Beatles became
> my new gang" -John Lennon
>
> and so you have: John, Paul, George, and Ringo...

I agree. And that quote makes me think of a book I read recently, Len
Garry's book "John, Paul and Me" that talks a lot about John in his
teens. This was pretty much John's MO except when he was with Yoko or
when he was going through a depressed period, such as in the
mid-sixties.


> Q: Ok .. with that setlled - Who was the
> fifth Beatle?
>
> a) George Martin

No contest. -laura

DotSeurat1

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Jul 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/26/99
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>From: mball...@aol.com (MBall99551)

>when you think about the leader of the group it always comes to mind that
>this
>is the order the beatles will always be remembered in john paul george ringo


Well, according to my two-year old Beatle-loving nephew, they're:

JohnRingoGeorge

And....?

PAUL!

I have to say "and..?" every time to get him to remember to say Paul! He says
JohnRingoGeorge so fast, you'd think it was one name!

I'm so proud of him! ;-)

Peace,
TC

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