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Slogans

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Mar 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/10/98
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I've read a lot about who played the guitar solos at the end of "Carry
that Weight," but don't remember any being authoritative. I've seen
everything from it being Paul and George, to Paul, John and George, to
Hendrix somehow being involved!

The one thing I have *never* read was that one of the soloists was
Clapton which, to my ears, is quite obvious. The phrasing of the last
guitar part in the solo, particularly the piercing "slurred" last note,
is certainly Clapton.

Comments? Hands please. Anyone?


Tom Hartman

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Clapton played on "While My Guitar Gently Weeps." He does not appear on
"Abbey Road," anywhere. Harrison was very influenced by Clapton, as was
most of rock's lead guitarists at the time.

--
TH

"Let me explain something to you Walsh...this business takes a certain
amount of finesse." -"Chinatown"

d.

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In article <01bd4c8d$8f0aeec0$0a2d70ce@columbia>, "Alex Shkoditzh"
<unc...@htp.net> wrote:

> I always thought it was clapton as well. George, Eric and John in that
> order. Never thought or heard any different until I read the liner notes to
> Anthology 3. Still don't belive it was Paul.


Why on earth wouldn't you believe it was Paul? Paul is an excellent
guitar soloist -- besides "The End", there's "Taxman" and "Momma Miss
America" and "Maybe I'm Amazed" and a lot of the work on the "Band on the
Run" album, to name just a few of the more obvious examples.

And besides, the solo on "The End" sounds *nothing* like Clapton.

Shervan Torabi

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The order alternated as Paul first, George second, and John last and
dirtiest...NO CLAPTON or HENDRIX.

d. wrote in message ...

David Bailey

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Alex Shkoditzh wrote:
>
> Slogans <slo...@pacbell.net> wrote in article
> <3505614E...@pacbell.net>...

> > I've read a lot about who played the guitar solos at the end of "Carry
> > that Weight," but don't remember any being authoritative. I've seen
> > everything from it being Paul and George, to Paul, John and George, to
> > Hendrix somehow being involved!
> >
> > The one thing I have *never* read was that one of the soloists was
> > Clapton which, to my ears, is quite obvious. The phrasing of the last
> > guitar part in the solo, particularly the piercing "slurred" last note,
> > is certainly Clapton.
> >
> > Comments? Hands please. Anyone?
> >
> I always thought it was clapton as well. George, Eric and John in that
> order. Never thought or heard any different until I read the liner notes to
> Anthology 3. Still don't belive it was Paul.

Wow,

You fellows are incredible. There haven't even been rumours about
this but the two of you managed to figure it out all by yourselves,
something absolutely nobody has been able to do in nearly 30 years.

Congratulations. Your both geniuses. I'm humbled just to be in the
same thread with you both.

db

db

Alex Shkoditzh

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Slogans <slo...@pacbell.net> wrote in article
<3505614E...@pacbell.net>...
> I've read a lot about who played the guitar solos at the end of "Carry
> that Weight," but don't remember any being authoritative. I've seen
> everything from it being Paul and George, to Paul, John and George, to
> Hendrix somehow being involved!
>
> The one thing I have *never* read was that one of the soloists was
> Clapton which, to my ears, is quite obvious. The phrasing of the last
> guitar part in the solo, particularly the piercing "slurred" last note,
> is certainly Clapton.
>
> Comments? Hands please. Anyone?
>
I always thought it was clapton as well. George, Eric and John in that
order. Never thought or heard any different until I read the liner notes to
Anthology 3. Still don't belive it was Paul.


Alex

MHHedgeco

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I've read a lot about who played the guitar solos at the end of "Carry
that Weight," but don't remember any being authoritative. I've seen
everything from it being Paul and George, to Paul, John and George, to
Hendrix somehow being involved!

The one thing I have *never* read was that one of the soloists was
Clapton which, to my ears, is quite obvious. The phrasing of the last
guitar part in the solo, particularly the piercing "slurred" last note,
is certainly Clapton.

Comments? Hands please. Anyone?>>>

In the lyric book for Anthology 3, it says that the 3 Beatles (John, Paul,
George) took turn playing 2 bars of guitar solo, for about 1:30. Nobody else
was on Abbey Road other than the Beatles, right?

na2

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Mar 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/11/98
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it is so obviously clapton playing.
absolutely no doubt. george doesn't have
those chops.
i'll bet $20 us on it.

na2

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Mar 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/11/98
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of course it's ec.no way its paul.
ill bet my life on it. well, US $20
anyway.


na2

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Mar 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/11/98
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wrong....nup......sorry, do not pass
go...do not collect
$200...............it is clapton
playing........no doubt about
it.......paul doesn't have those chops,
let alone george....i'll put money on
it...


jsundboe

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Slogans <slo...@pacbell.net> wrote in article
<3505614E...@pacbell.net>...

> I've read a lot about who played the guitar solos at the end of "Carry
> that Weight," but don't remember any being authoritative. I've seen
> everything from it being Paul and George, to Paul, John and George, to
> Hendrix somehow being involved!
>
> The one thing I have *never* read was that one of the soloists was
> Clapton which, to my ears, is quite obvious. The phrasing of the last
> guitar part in the solo, particularly the piercing "slurred" last note,
> is certainly Clapton.
>
> Comments? Hands please. Anyone?


Wasn't Mark Knofler involved too????
Stop this "assuming". Studio documentation shows that only Paul, John and
George played the solo.
Jens

Jon M. Roe

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I guess you'll have to send $20 to a whole
hell of a lot of us. It's been well
established for a very long time that
the guitars are Paul, George, and John
in that order.

Jon

rjoh...@enteract.com

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jsundboe <jsun...@online.no> wrote:

> Wasn't Mark Knofler involved too????
> Stop this "assuming". Studio documentation shows that only Paul, John and
> George played the solo.

I think that Bing Crosby sang lead vocal on "Oh Darling" too...that couldn't
be Paul singing that!

-Rob-


--
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| you mess with us." --Radiohead|
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TheWalrous

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Of course, you're right, it wasn't the Beatles; it was Elvis, the Pope,
and that guy who plays the pan flute! Clapton? Hendrix? Nonsense.

troll? perhaps...
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Darren
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DigiBanana

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>> $200...............it is clapton
> playing........no doubt about
> it.......paul doesn't have those chops,
> let alone george....i'll put money on
> it...

>Of course, you're right, it wasn't the Beatles; it was Elvis, the Pope,
and that guy who plays the pan flute!

I think you would be refering to Zamphir (sp?) ***master ** of the Pan Flute.

(man I watched too much tv wen I was young. 8^)

Christopher
3/11/98

ps: Don't ask me how I remembered that.

Mcgbjk

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I always thought that it was George, John , then Paul. Can you guys verify
that it was Paul, George, then John? And then...... It's not a perfect
switchoff, is it? My ears tell me it would be:

Paul
George
Paul
John
Paul
George
John

Biffyshrew

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Mar 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/11/98
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Okay--*I* played the solos. Paul gave me $20 U.S. to keep quiet about
it, but I didn't promise.

Your pal,
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> It's been well
> established for a very long time that
> the guitars are Paul, George, and John
> in that order.

Simple question: Did the three of them (Paul, George, and John -- not Eric, Jimi and
the Pope!) sit around in a circle at the same time, *literally* trading off, of did they
each do their small bit separately and then have them spliced together?

Ah, to have been an eyewitness if it was the former rather than the latter ...

Jon

Mike Mihalus

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Mar 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/11/98
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It doesn't matter who played them originally.

It was all overdubbed by Bernard Purdie.

Mike


Bernand Purdie

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On 11 Mar 1998 16:51:28 GMT, largely a fun day, biffy...@aol.com
(Biffyshrew) wrote:

>Okay--*I* played the solos. Paul gave me $20 U.S. to keep quiet about
>it, but I didn't promise.
>

No! That's a LIE! *I* played the solos with the drums; they were later
distorted to sound like guitars. Glyn Johns instructed me to do this,
and made me sign an oath of secrecy. Being twenty+ years, though, I
guess I don't have to listen to it!

Bernard Purdie

BePa9876

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In article <350692...@noaa.gov>, "Jon M. Roe" <Jon...@noaa.gov> writes:

>It's been well
>established for a very long time that
>the guitars are Paul, George, and John
>in that order.

i thought that was for "The End", not "Carry that Weight"

huzzlewhat

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In article <6e66c2$9...@eve.enteract.com>, rjoh...@enteract.com wrote:

> jsundboe <jsun...@online.no> wrote:
>
> > Wasn't Mark Knofler involved too????
> > Stop this "assuming". Studio documentation shows that only Paul, John and
> > George played the solo.
>
> I think that Bing Crosby sang lead vocal on "Oh Darling" too...that couldn't
> be Paul singing that!

And then of course, there's Richard Clayderman, who played the piano on
"Lady Madonna." Paul liked his work so much he had him back in later to
do "Maybe I'm Amazed"...

--huzzlewhat--

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that which is not in it."

jeff crabb

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it was paul. george and john trading
licks on carry that weight. Eric
clapton never played on the abbey
road album. there is gonna be alot
of people wanting to collect their
$20.OO bucks. Are you sure you have
enough to keep your end of the bet?
Jeff

Tom

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MHHedgeco wrote in message
<19980312022...@ladder03.news.aol.com>...
>The only outside musicians
>that were ever publicly credited on a Beatles lp were Mal "Organ" Evans,
>George Martin and Billy Preston.>>>
>
>And the only people other than these listed who played on a Beatles album
>(string arrangement don't count...) are Andy White (session drummer for
Love me
>do) and Nicky Hopkins who played on Revolution. And of course Clapton on
>WMGGW....

and Alan Civil, and the musicians on Within You, Without You and The Inner
Light.

Slogans

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Mar 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/11/98
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Sparky, this is a discussion group. By definition, it allows each of us to
express his or her opinion and interpretations. Differences should be
welcomed or, at least tolerated. Perhaps you could save your rapier-like wit
for more appropriate situations.

And please, learn the difference between "your" and you're."

Danny Caccavo

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In article <35063D95...@curie.dialix.com.au>, na2
<n...@curie.dialix.com.au> wrote:

> it is so obviously clapton playing.
> absolutely no doubt. george doesn't have
> those chops.
> i'll bet $20 us on it.

You'd be $20 poorer! <g>

DC

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(delete the xx from my return address for replies.....)

Danny Caccavo

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In article <19980311163...@ladder03.news.aol.com>, mcg...@aol.com
(Mcgbjk) wrote:

Uh, you missed a few.

Paul
George
John
Paul
George
John
Paul
George
John


What *I'd* like to know is if they were recorded at the same time. I
always dream that they were...

RasMaster

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(Mcgbjk) writes:

>I always thought that it was George, John , then Paul. Can you guys verify
>that it was Paul, George, then John? And then...... It's not a perfect
>switchoff, is it? My ears tell me it would be:
>
>Paul
>George
>Paul
>John
>Paul
>George
>John
>
>

Paul, George, John. In that order, three times each. Each turn is two
bars (8 counts). Paul's solos are competant and workmanlike, nothing
to write home about. George's solos soar, and are among his best
ever, especially the first and third. John appears to avoid musical
lines altogether, opting to base his solos around aggressive, earthy
rhythmic chops.

Bob

Alex Shkoditzh

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I give in!
I was just impressed that someone else felt that George's solo was very
"clapton like". I always found it hard to beleive that the same musician
that struggled with solo's (as evidenced by outakes readily available on
bootleg - the struggle has often been discussed in this newsgroup) was
capable of sounding as fluid as he does on "The End".
Also - The Beatles did not publicly own up to Clapton's prescence on "While
my Guitar..." until a year after their breakup. The only outside musicians


that were ever publicly credited on a Beatles lp were Mal "Organ" Evans,
George Martin and Billy Preston.


Alex

MHHedgeco

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>
> it is so obviously clapton playing.
> absolutely no doubt. george doesn't have
> those chops.
> i'll bet $20 us on it.

I guess you'll have to send $20 to a whole
hell of a lot of us. It's been well


established for a very long time that
the guitars are Paul, George, and John
in that order.
>>>

I'd have to agree. There are all kind of stories about the Beatles that are
disputable; but I would take a liner note over just about anything.

na2

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Mar 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/12/98
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absolute rubbish........established by
whom?


MHHedgeco

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The only outside musicians
that were ever publicly credited on a Beatles lp were Mal "Organ" Evans,
George Martin and Billy Preston.>>>

And the only people other than these listed who played on a Beatles album

RasMaster

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In article <3507016D...@curie.dialix.com.au>, na2
<n...@curie.dialix.com.au> writes:

>absolute rubbish........established by
>whom?

Mark Lewisohn, who listened to all of the session tapes for his excellent
books for one.

If you don't like that, how about quotes from JL referring directly to the
song, in which he describes how the three of them traded off solos, and
described what his sounded like, in comparison to the other two.

By the way, we don't have to prove it's not P, G and J, as it is impossible
to prove a negative. It can be proven that it IS the three of them, and this
has been done. If you want confirmation that Eric Clapton, or Eric Idle
or Eric the half-a-bee are on the track, you will have to prove it.

And you can't prove something that ain't true.

Bob Purse

Alex Shkoditzh

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> And the only people other than these listed who played on a Beatles album
> (string arrangement don't count...) are Andy White (session drummer for
Love me
> do) and Nicky Hopkins who played on Revolution. And of course Clapton on
> WMGGW....

How about horns? (Penny Lane, Got to Get You Into my Life).
Backround vocals (All You Need is Love, I am the Walrus).
The melotron tape (flamenco guitar) intro to Bungalow Bill?
Flute (You've Got to Hide Your Love Away).
Indian instrumentation (Within You, Without You).

Give me a few - I'll think of more.

Alex

MHHedgeco

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How about horns? (Penny Lane, Got to Get You Into my Life).
Backround vocals (All You Need is Love, I am the Walrus).
The melotron tape (flamenco guitar) intro to Bungalow Bill?
Flute (You've Got to Hide Your Love Away).
Indian instrumentation (Within You, Without You).
>>>

Right, I was including those with the strings....

RasMaster

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In article <6e7jiq$m3s$1...@nnrp4.snfc21.pbi.net>, "Slogans" <slo...@pacbell.net>
writes:

It would help if we knew who you were responding to. Perhaps a quote
from the appropriate previous post could be arranged?

Differences are welcomed, and are particularly appropriate when they
are expressed with regard to matters of opinion. What is the purpose
of such "differences", though, when the issue being discussed is
solely one of hard-fast facts? There can be an opinion regarding the
quality of the solos, but that's not really what is being discussed.
There is no relevant "opinion" as to who is playing the solos. Only
facts, an area in which there is no room for opinion.

It would be equally pointless to say that "It's my belief that Abraham
Lincoln wasn't president in 1862, but that Oscar Wilde sat in for that
year". Or "I don't think Babe Ruth played baseball in the 1927 World
Series, I think FDR played in his place".

Like these two statements, the stated "opinion" that George Harrison
didn't do something that he most assuredly did do, is not an opinion
at all, but an inaccurate statement, incorrectly expressed as an
opinion. Likewise, if it WAS Eric Clapton (as it is on WMGGW),
there would also be no point in expressing the "opinion", for
discussion purposes, that it was George (or that it was Eric,
for that matter).

While it would be appropriate to discuss the point "say, doesn't George
sound like Eric Clapton on 'The End' on Abbey Road", that doesn't
appear to be what you were doing (interesting that you managed to
correct a minor spelling error in a previous post, which bore no relation
to the message of said post, but you still have not corrected your
error in identifying which song contains the solos, a point central
to this thread - which would you say is the more relevant error?).

Perhaps a better approach would have been to say "during the solos in
'the end', it sure sounds like Eric Clapton is playing certain parts of
the solos. Does anyone know if this is possible? Has it been confirmed?
Or do we actually know for certain that J, P and G actually played
these solos?

In response to this sort of post, you would have received the accurate
information, documented and everything. And you probably wouldn't feel
so defensive.

Bob Purse

JLennon910

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Mar 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/12/98
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Am I an idiot, or has my copy of Abbey Road hopelessly screwed up? The guitar
solos we're talking about are in The End, NOT Carry That Weight. Or am I just
hallucinating, and the liner notes for Anthology Three completely wrong?


-John Lennon
All you need is Love. -And a good stiff drink every now and then doesn't hurt
either.

JON

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na2 wrote:
>
> of course it's ec.no way its paul.
> ill bet my life on it. well, US $20
> anyway.
Well.....
1. Paul started playing lead guitar before switching to bass, and
he is a damned good lead player.
2. How are you going to PROVE Clapton's involvement in "The End"?
Listening and guessing don't count.
3. You're wrong.

Murcura

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> $200...............it is clapton
> playing........no doubt about
> it.......paul doesn't have those chops,
> let alone george....i'll put money on
> it...

Of course, the Beatles were hiring ringers to overdub
George's solos ever since "Till There Was You".

*****************************
Sean Murdock
mur...@aol.com

na2

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Mar 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/12/98
to Biffyshrew

alway knew it was you....$20 US on the
way....;)


TheWalrous

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RasMaster wrote:
>
>
> Paul's solos are competant and workmanlike, nothing
> to write home about. George's solos soar, and are among his best
> ever, especially the first and third. John appears to avoid musical
> lines altogether, opting to base his solos around aggressive, earthy
> rhythmic chops.

I would definately agree that "The End" features some of George's best
soloing ever. Better tone, sound, and interest than Paul or John's
solos. I wouldn't call Paul's guitar work "workmanlike" (it has become
too easy to use this phrase for Paul) though, it is in fact very melodic
and impressive. John's is great too, his particular style features a
very "neck pick-up" (bassy) sound.

"The End" is a high point in The Beatles' guitar repertoire. Plus you
have Ringo finally (albeit grudgingly) grabbing some spotlight..

My next question would be: Does anyone know what kind of guitar each was
using?
--
Darren
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Czeskleba

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>Also - The Beatles did not publicly own up to Clapton's prescence on "While
>my Guitar..." until a year after their breakup.

This implies they were ashamed of using Clapton or wanted to trick the public
into thinking one of them played that solo, which is a silly idea. My guess is
Clapton didn't want credit, just like George didn't want credit for his rhythm
guitar on Cream's "Badge". It was just two friends helping each other out.

Bruce Dumes

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na2 (n...@curie.dialix.com.au) wrote:
: it is so obviously clapton playing.

: absolutely no doubt. george doesn't have
: those chops.
: i'll bet $20 us on it.

That makes about $2,000,000 you owe all of us. Please send cash.

Bruce


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Neil Koomen

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RasMaster wrote:

(snip)

> John appears to avoid musical
> lines altogether, opting to base his solos around aggressive, earthy
> rhythmic chops.

I've always loved that. It sounds like he was just trying to be direct
and to the point, nothing fancy and unnecessary. Much like the rest of
his life. Get down to important stuff and that's all that matters. And
it makes a nice contrast to the other solos.

It may sound simple, but I think Lennon probably knew exactly what he
was doing. Dude sure knew how to rock!

Jonathan Howard

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> >> Anthology 3. Still don't belive it was Paul.
> >
> >
Watch 1989's "Get Back". Paul tears a huge piece of solo in the guitar
jam we're referring to. It was obviously him on the record.

na2

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Mar 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/13/98
to Bruce Dumes

hows my credit? :)


na2

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Mar 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/13/98
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what are you guys talking about?. the
end solo last about 20 seconds...are you
confusing it with the she's soheavy
solo, in which there are extended leads
by several players?


Steve Wandy

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More than likely, their respective record contracts would not allow them to
be
recorded on other labels, hence the lack of credit. For example I had
read that George played guitar on the early Delaney and Bonnie tour with
Clapton. His only credit on the live album is "Mysterioso" (or something
like that) because it was released by Atco/Atlantic Records.

Czeskleba <czes...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19980312171...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...

RasMaster

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In article <6e7jiq$m3s$1...@nnrp4.snfc21.pbi.net>, "Slogans" <slo...@pacbell.net>
writes:

>Sparky, this is a discussion group. By definition, it allows each of us to
>express his or her opinion and interpretations. Differences should be
>welcomed or, at least tolerated. Perhaps you could save your rapier-like wit
>for more appropriate situations.


Quoting now from "Lennon Remembers" (P. 48 of paperback):

"There's a nice little bit I played, they played it on the back of Abbey
Road. Paul gave us each a piece. There is a little break where Paul
plays, George plays and I play...... (snip)... where it goes boom, boom
boom on the drums, and we all take turns to play. I'm the third one
on it. I have a definite style of playing. I've always had. I'm the invisible
guitarist.

Hope that clears it up for you. Not really anything to "discuss".

Bob

Danny Caccavo

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In article <6e8r1n$fk$1...@gte1.gte.net>, Eric...@necronomi.com wrote:

<snip>


>
> My next question would be: Does anyone know what kind of guitar each was
> using?
> --
> Darren
> jpage<arg $pam>@gte.net = my real E-mail (remove <arg $pam>)

Hmmmmm. I take a guess that it's George's Les Paul, and Paul and John
both on Casinos.....

But I'll defer to Tom Hartman for this one!

gom...@sirius.com

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> In the lyric book for Anthology 3, it says that the 3 Beatles (John, Paul,
> George) took turn playing 2 bars of guitar solo, for about 1:30.


wasn't it all done with a mellotron?

> Simple question: Did the three of them (Paul, George, and John -- not
Eric, Jimi and
> the Pope!) sit around in a circle at the same time, *literally* trading
off, of did they
> each do their small bit separately and then have them spliced together?


this has been asked a number of times...
does anyone know the answer?

>
> i thought that was for "The End", not "Carry that Weight"

John Jones

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On Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:23:33 -0200, CHRIS LUPETTI
<CLU...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>Why do people have such little confidence in The Lads lead guitar abilies? They are
>fine musicians. And I would take George and Paul as a lead guitarist over Clapton any
>day. Listean to George's Live in Japan album. Listean to the song Something, on it.
>His guitar solo is so much more melodic than Claptons.
>
>
>
Hmmmm........The Beatles are "guitarabilies"........;)

John
--
No one will ever know exactly why or how, but by the
year 2050, everyone born in Baltimore will look
exactly like Ernest Borgnine.

Drew Friedman

Ernest Moore

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Mar 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/20/98
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Paul,George and John did the solo,taking turns in that order 3 times.

Andy Moore

Derek J. Larsson

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The solos were Paul, George, and John in that order
alternating riffs one after the other.

Highlights:
Lennon has the aggressive, overdriven, ballsy tones .. including the finale
(Epiphone hollow-body casino).
Harrison the high, soaring, bendy Fender Strat sounds (could be a Telecaster).
McCartney is playing a Les paul (no distortion)

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lyli...@gmail.com

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On Tuesday, March 10, 1998 at 1:00:00 AM UTC-7, Slogans wrote:
> I've read a lot about who played the guitar solos at the end of "Carry
> that Weight," but don't remember any being authoritative. I've seen
> everything from it being Paul and George, to Paul, John and George, to
> Hendrix somehow being involved!
>
> The one thing I have *never* read was that one of the soloists was
> Clapton which, to my ears, is quite obvious. The phrasing of the last
> guitar part in the solo, particularly the piercing "slurred" last note,
> is certainly Clapton.
>
> Comments? Hands please. Anyone?

lyli...@gmail.com

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Apr 18, 2016, 12:50:30 AM4/18/16
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I always thought it was EC as well, in spite of the official line. I love George's playing, but I never heard him come close to this type of phrasing either before or after this recording. I grew up slowing down Clapton Cream licks on my real-to-real at half speed. Unless George just sat down and thought, I've just got to learn some riffs that are all over Clapton. Anyway, MHO.

Stephen X. Carter

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Apr 18, 2016, 7:05:40 AM4/18/16
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Dude! You're commenting on a posting from 1998. In this world that's
18 years ago. All sorts of things have happened since then.....

--
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Jack Ryan

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Apr 18, 2016, 9:53:44 AM4/18/16
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On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 7:05:40 AM UTC-4, Stephen X. Carter wrote:
>
> Dude! You're commenting on a posting from 1998. In this world that's
> 18 years ago. All sorts of things have happened since then.....

DUDE! You're commenting on Beatle music and events from the sixties. In
this world that's 50 years ago. All sorts of things have happened since
then......

zippl...@gmail.com

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Apr 18, 2016, 4:35:06 PM4/18/16
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The solos have stayed the same. Wait, they've changed. Yes they have.

cboy...@gmail.com

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On Tuesday, March 10, 1998 at 4:00:00 AM UTC-4, Slogans wrote:
> I've read a lot about who played the guitar solos at the end of "Carry
> that Weight," but don't remember any being authoritative. I've seen
> everything from it being Paul and George, to Paul, John and George, to
> Hendrix somehow being involved!
>
> The one thing I have *never* read was that one of the soloists was
> Clapton which, to my ears, is quite obvious. The phrasing of the last
> guitar part in the solo, particularly the piercing "slurred" last note,
> is certainly Clapton.
>
> Comments? Hands please. Anyone?

Definitely Eric Clapton in there. No mistaking that sound, phrasing and touch.

Nil

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On 09 Apr 2017, cboy...@gmail.com wrote in rec.music.beatles:

> Definitely Eric Clapton in there. No mistaking that sound,
> phrasing and touch.

Nothing has changed since 1998 (or 1969, for that matter.) The answer
is still "no, no Eric Clapton involvment" (other than him being a
friend and mentor of George's.) It's well documented.

Tim

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Apr 9, 2017, 11:10:23 PM4/9/17
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I'd never waste that many keystrokes on these revisionist clowns.

rplea...@gmail.com

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Apr 9, 2017, 11:28:58 PM4/9/17
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Nope. That "sound, phrasing, and touch" you're hearing is George, who learned a lot from Eric.

armon...@gmail.com

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The very last solo they shared between them. Ringo first, obvs, then the guitars in sequence three times:

George, Paul, John

The Clapton influence is there because he was part of their lives by that time and they were always riffing off each other.

P-Dub

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Clapton was invited to record on one Beatles track only - While My Guitar Gently Weeps.

He was not on the Abbey Road album.

I think the only largely unaccredited musician of note that appears on multiple late Beatle tracks was Billy Preston. It might be interesting to compile all the tracks he's on. It's more than Let It Be rooftop tracks.


Nil

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On 16 Nov 2018, P-Dub <pwol...@gmail.com> wrote in
rec.music.beatles:

> I think the only largely unaccredited musician of note that
> appears on multiple late Beatle tracks was Billy Preston. It might
> be interesting to compile all the tracks he's on. It's more than
> Let It Be rooftop tracks.

According to Wikipediea, Preston plays electric piano on "Dig a Pony",
"I've Got a Feeling", "One After 909", "The Long and Winding Road" and
"Get Back", Hammond organ on "Dig It" and "Let It Be".

As far as I can recall, besides his appearance on the "Let It Be" album
and film, Billy plays on "Don't Let Me Down", "Something", and "I Want
You (She's So Heavy)". I think that's that all.

P-Dub

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Thanks for checking... What an amazing body of music. Preston had been a force for the late Beatles. If they had continued, he could have been made an official member. Probably should have been.

P-Dub

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P-Dub

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mathewm...@gmail.com

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The masterful guitar solo is actually performed by George Harrison using a 1968 rosewood telecaster. John didn’t play on this track he was recovering from an accident when the song was put to tape. The confusion comes because John played the similar parts on You Never Give Your Money. Anyone says different is incorrect.

mathewm...@gmail.com

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May 18, 2019, 1:59:54 PM5/18/19
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George played the nasty solo

Kent

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On Saturday, May 18, 2019 at 1:56:24 PM UTC-4, mathewm...@gmail.com wrote:
> The masterful guitar solo is actually performed by George Harrison using a 1968 rosewood telecaster. John didn’t play on this track he was recovering from an accident when the song was put to tape. The confusion comes because John played the similar parts on You Never Give Your Money. Anyone says different is incorrect.

Was this due to John's car accident in Scotland?

Fan4George

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Laughing Jaw

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On Monday, April 6, 1998 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, Derek J. Larsson wrote:
> The solos were Paul, George, and John in that order
> alternating riffs one after the other.
>
> Highlights:
> Lennon has the aggressive, overdriven, ballsy tones .. including the finale
> (Epiphone hollow-body casino).
> Harrison the high, soaring, bendy Fender Strat sounds (could be a Telecaster).
> McCartney is playing a Les paul (no distortion)
>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXB1FSH9Ncs

prim...@gmail.com

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Actually that is "The End", but I could be
mistaken. I know this answer because I've
researched it more than once, because that
solo is one of my absolute favorite minute
or so of the Fabs entire catalogue.
It was done in one take. Paul, then George,
and lastly John, standing around right up
close to one another. Macca plays his first
(4 beat?), then George his, then JL his.
Then continued again until each MopTop had
played their 3 turns. And supposedly there
was no real rehearsal before they just
stepped up and did it. Wow, who said these
guys were mediocre musicians? This little
piece of music is some of the rockinest,
rollingest, sonic art that I know of.
Listened to it uncountable times and will
listen to it again till my ears no longer
can process sound waves. Another thing that makes this song special to me is that it
starts off with the only drum solo that
Ringo has on any Beatles album, and ends
with a lyric that is among the very favorite
of their entire lyricology,,,
"And in the end...", Im sure you know.
Sublime, just sublime, And so damn true.
Hey, The End is superior rock art, if you
ask me. And that's all that I have to say
on that.
Willy



mcarthu...@gmail.com

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On Tuesday, 10 March 1998 08:00:00 UTC, Slogans wrote:
> I've read a lot about who played the guitar solos at the end of "Carry
> that Weight," but don't remember any being authoritative. I've seen
> everything from it being Paul and George, to Paul, John and George, to
> Hendrix somehow being involved!
>
> The one thing I have *never* read was that one of the soloists was
> Clapton which, to my ears, is quite obvious. The phrasing of the last
> guitar part in the solo, particularly the piercing "slurred" last note,
> is certainly Clapton.
>
> Comments? Hands please. Anyone?

It's definitely Eric Clapton. None of The Beatles, for all their amazing talent, could play like that.

geoff

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May 12, 2020, 6:09:08 PM5/12/20
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Must have been Richie Castellano.

geoff

prim...@gmail.com

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May 12, 2020, 11:52:37 PM5/12/20
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No way they could have pulled that off, you firmly assert.
The difficulty level was not beyond their capabilities, but
the artistic merit was high but was no sweat at all because they were ready and motivated to finish this album off in
a blaze of guitar expressionism. Eric wasn't needed in any way and wasn't possessed of near enough Beatles mojo to be
included in their final display of Beatles Exceptualism.
Willy

Norbert K

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It sounds like George and Paul playing at their best - and John, rather than competing, does a grungy sort of thing that works in its own way.

I hear none of Clapton's signature bends or vibrato - and nothing that Gaorge couldn't have done.

Norbert K

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On Wednesday, March 11, 1998 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-5, Bernand Purdie wrote:
> On 11 Mar 1998 16:51:28 GMT, largely a fun day, biffy...@aol.com
> (Biffyshrew) wrote:
>
> >Okay--*I* played the solos. Paul gave me $20 U.S. to keep quiet about
> >it, but I didn't promise.
> >
>
> No! That's a LIE! *I* played the solos with the drums; they were later
> distorted to sound like guitars. Glyn Johns instructed me to do this,
> and made me sign an oath of secrecy. Being twenty+ years, though, I
> guess I don't have to listen to it!
>
> Bernard Purdie

Ha! I knew a Bernard Purdie joke was on the way.

"You done it. You done hired the hit-maker." -- BP

Laughing Jaw

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On Tuesday, March 10, 1998 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-5, Slogans wrote:
> I've read a lot about who played the guitar solos at the end of "Carry
> that Weight," but don't remember any being authoritative. I've seen
> everything from it being Paul and George, to Paul, John and George, to
> Hendrix somehow being involved!
>
> The one thing I have *never* read was that one of the soloists was
> Clapton which, to my ears, is quite obvious. The phrasing of the last
> guitar part in the solo, particularly the piercing "slurred" last note,
> is certainly Clapton.
>
> Comments? Hands please. Anyone?


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