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Charles A. Eckert

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Nov 14, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/14/95
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Pretty self-explanatory, I guess. But I was just wondering what brands
of cigarettes the Beatles smoked.....

Thanks for all replies by followup or email....


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Nick Rozakis

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Nov 14, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/14/95
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In article <48a25c$f...@guava.epix.net>, cec...@news.epix.net says...

>Pretty self-explanatory, I guess. But I was just wondering what brands
>of cigarettes the Beatles smoked.....

>Thanks for all replies by followup or email....


They smoked Peter Stuyvesant's, at least in the early years. They
had a carton of them during the Please Please Me Sessions.


KRISTA WHITLOCK

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Nov 15, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/15/95
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>From: cec...@news.epix.net (Charles A. Eckert)
>Subject: What cigarettes did they smoke?
>Date: 14 Nov 1995 12:30:36 GMT

>Pretty self-explanatory, I guess. But I was just wondering what brands
>of cigarettes the Beatles smoked.....

>Thanks for all replies by followup or email....

Just a guess here, Charles, but in The First U.S. Visit, George and
John do a nice little stereo speech on the train to Washington D.C.
about their "Malboro's with micro-knee-fingers" and "a big
cigarette for a big man", since he and John were "buddies and pals".

I could be in left field, tho'. =)

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smi...@interaccess.com

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Nov 15, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/15/95
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In article <kfw97.178...@calc.vet.uga.edu> kf...@calc.vet.uga.edu (KRISTA WHITLOCK) writes:

>>From: cec...@news.epix.net (Charles A. Eckert)
>>Subject: What cigarettes did they smoke?
>>Date: 14 Nov 1995 12:30:36 GMT

>>Pretty self-explanatory, I guess. But I was just wondering what brands
>>of cigarettes the Beatles smoked.....

>>Thanks for all replies by followup or email....

>Just a guess here, Charles, but in The First U.S. Visit, George and
>John do a nice little stereo speech on the train to Washington D.C.
>about their "Malboro's with micro-knee-fingers" and "a big
>cigarette for a big man", since he and John were "buddies and pals".

>I could be in left field, tho'. =)

Could "micro-knee-fingers" be a play on Kent "micronite filters?"


OCEAN DIG

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Nov 15, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/15/95
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Could "micro-knee-fingers" be a play on Kent "micronite filters?""

Sure was...that was funny!
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James Gardner

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Nov 15, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/15/95
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In Lewisohn's Recording Sessions book (I believe it is),
it's mentioned that the original title for the Abbey Road
album was _Alpine_, after the cigarette of the same name.
Dunno if any or all the Fabs smoked 'em, but I remember
seeing a pack lying around in at least one studio photo.
(BTW, sure am glad they didn't name their final masterpiece
after a brand of smokes!)


David J. Coyle

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Nov 15, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/15/95
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Did they ever bum Everests off of Geoff Emerick?

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Philip M Reynolds

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Nov 15, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/15/95
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> Could "micro-knee-fingers" be a play on Kent "micronite filters?"
>
>
>

John is pictured in "The John Lennon Collection" with a packet of Gitanes.

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Rob Harned

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Nov 15, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/15/95
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On Wed, 15 Nov 1995, KRISTA WHITLOCK wrote:

> >From: cec...@news.epix.net (Charles A. Eckert)
> >Subject: What cigarettes did they smoke?
> >Date: 14 Nov 1995 12:30:36 GMT
>
> >Pretty self-explanatory, I guess. But I was just wondering what brands
> >of cigarettes the Beatles smoked.....
>
> >Thanks for all replies by followup or email....
>
> Just a guess here, Charles, but in The First U.S. Visit, George and
> John do a nice little stereo speech on the train to Washington D.C.
> about their "Malboro's with micro-knee-fingers" and "a big
> cigarette for a big man", since he and John were "buddies and pals".
>
> I could be in left field, tho'. =)

I think I remember reading in Drugs, Divorce and a slipping image that
George smoked Kents.


Richard Looney

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Nov 16, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/16/95
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Steve Fletcher (sfl...@page.mmc.com) wrote:
>> John smoked Larks at one point.

... you can see a pack in a photo of John in the Life magazine Special.
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Mr K.L. Wright

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Nov 16, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/16/95
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KRISTA WHITLOCK (kf...@calc.vet.uga.edu) wrote:
: >From: cec...@news.epix.net (Charles A. Eckert)
: >Subject: What cigarettes did they smoke?
: >Date: 14 Nov 1995 12:30:36 GMT

: >Pretty self-explanatory, I guess. But I was just wondering what brands
: >of cigarettes the Beatles smoked.....

: >Thanks for all replies by followup or email....

: Just a guess here, Charles, but in The First U.S. Visit, George and
: John do a nice little stereo speech on the train to Washington D.C.
: about their "Malboro's with micro-knee-fingers" and "a big
: cigarette for a big man", since he and John were "buddies and pals".

: I could be in left field, tho'. =)


According to Lewisohn, when they recorded the tracks
for "Please Please Me" they had a carton of Peter Stuvescent
cigarettes which they smoked incessantly.

Keith.


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: Krista Feather Whitlock Vet student, Trekker, Beatles
: kf...@calc.vet.uga.edu fan, RBLS member, movie lover.

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Jeff Hart

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Nov 17, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/17/95
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left handed ones...

"and curse Sir Walter Raleigh, he was such a stupid get" (git?)
Don't know if this brand is around anymore.


Jeff


Kenneth Krompinger

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Nov 17, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/17/95
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On 15 Nov 1995, James Gardner wrote:

>
>
> In Lewisohn's Recording Sessions book (I believe it is),
> it's mentioned that the original title for the Abbey Road
> album was _Alpine_, after the cigarette of the same name.
>

Wrong mountain range. It was Everest. I think the reason they ended up
changing the name was that it was a bit easier to get the cover picture of
the Beatles on Abbey Road than on Mt Everest.

---Ken

p.s. sorry if this has been answered already!

nick fletcher

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Nov 17, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/17/95
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after studing a photo i learned Ringo smoked A now defunk brand called Gold Leaf and so i myself
took up that brand for fifteen happy puffin' years

kevbob

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Nov 18, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/18/95
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Jeff Hart <jh...@nando.net> wrote:

>left handed ones...

>"and curse Sir Walter Raleigh, he was such a stupid get" (git?)

That would be 'git' I believe.

May we have a definition from someone in the British Isles, please?
I've wondered about that one for awhile.


Tony Quinn

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Nov 19, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/19/95
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kevbob (kev...@teleport.com) wrote:
: Jeff Hart <jh...@nando.net> wrote:

: >left handed ones...

: >"and curse Sir Walter Raleigh, he was such a stupid get" (git?)

: That would be 'git' I believe.

: May we have a definition from someone in the British Isles, please?

My pleasure.............


THE LYRICS TO I'M SO TIRED

In the short couple of years I've been enjoying the cut and thrust of
r.m.b. one thing keeps cropping up - the following stanza from I'm So
Tired.

I'm so tired, I'm feeling so upset,
Although I'm so tired I'll have another cigarette,
And curse Sir Walter Raleigh,
He was such a stupid get.

Mis-hearings are really unforgiveable as the lyric is printed both on
the album poster and in the CD booklet, even so people commonly think
the third line reads

...And curse the walls around me....

and the fourth

...He was such a stupid git....

In the case of the third line, Ok John sings the word "Raleigh" with a
short "a" as in the word "rally" rather than with a long "a" as in
"rather". However the association between cigarette and Sir Walter
Raleigh is clear to the average British 13 year old (at least when I was
at school), in that he was the man who introduced tobacco to these
shores. This connection is so strong that there was once a brand of
cigarettes named after him (so my father tells me).

In defence of this pronunciation there is a British manufacturer of
cycles who use the brand name "Raleigh" pronounced "rally". Growing up
in Liverpool approximately 20 years before me, John would have had to
have been deaf, dumb, and blind not to have been influenced by this
pronunciation. In addition there is a distinct disinclination associated
with the local accent to use a long "a" where a short one will suffice.

In the case of the fourth line, "stupid get" as well as obviously
rhyming with cigarette is a standard term of friendly abuse in
Liverpool. A standard(ish) example would be the friendly comment..
"Don't be such a stupid get, come and have a bevvy", which roughly
translated means.. "Don't be a fool, lets go to the pub..". I think,
although I may be wrong, that "git" is more of a Southern English word,
made famous (??) by that well known character Alf Garnett (a creation of
British comedy writer Johhny Speight) when refering to his Liverpudlian
Son-in-Law. This was later picked up by "The Monkees" in the title of
the tune "Randy Scouse Git" (called, if I'm not mistaken "Alternate
Title" in the US). It is my belief that here is the source of this
constant mis-interpreting.

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Jeff Hart

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Nov 19, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/19/95
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Thanks for the replies. To clarify, I wrote 'get' in the I'm So
Tired Quote because that's what it sounds as if John sang (to
rhyme with 'cigarette')as an off-rhyme ala Cole Porter I
suppose, but I wrote 'git' outside of the quote because that's
what I believe he meant.

Other uses of the word 'git':

The LA band The Gits
Another proposed band name (which I highly favor), Git City
Motors

Jeff

Jeff Hart

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Nov 20, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/20/95
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Tony Quinn <tony...@sixpints.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>It is my belief that here is the source of this
>constant mis-interpreting.


Make sense to me. You did notice I tried to cover the
possibility of the lyric being 'git'? It was in parentheses. I
only went to one lyric book, so I just went with that one.
Sounds like 'get' to me and it's in the lyric sheet, so that
settles it for me as well. It seems like a good Cole Porter
line.

Thanks for the clarification.
Irony: I reside in Raleigh, NC USA. (We pronounce it
'raaahhhhleee', rhyming with Ollie)

Jeff


FithBeatle

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Nov 20, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/20/95
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Those one's that are rolled up on each end....

David L. Glass

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Nov 21, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/21/95
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HI Gang, I don't know about the rest, but John preferred filter
tipped Gitanes (an English brand, I believe).


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E. Church

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Nov 21, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/21/95
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"David L. Glass" <dgl...@inmind.com> writes:

>HI Gang, I don't know about the rest, but John preferred filter
>tipped Gitanes (an English brand, I believe).

I just saw a quote, in an interview, where Paul said they were
smoking a lot of "herbal jazz cigarettes."

-B


Chewbacca

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Nov 22, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/22/95
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One more use of the word "git" -- ever seen "Red Dwarf"? It's used
extensively there.


Tony Quinn

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Nov 22, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/22/95
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Chewbacca (Hu...@Whitman.edu) wrote:
: One more use of the word "git" -- ever seen "Red Dwarf"? It's used
: extensively there.

But not, interestingly enough, in a Beatles song.........

blue meanie

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Nov 23, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/23/95
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In article <Pine.SOL.3.91.951115164524.12177A-100000@bingsun1>,
be2...@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu says...

>
>
>
>On Wed, 15 Nov 1995, KRISTA WHITLOCK wrote:
>
>> >From: cec...@news.epix.net (Charles A. Eckert)
>> >Subject: What cigarettes did they smoke?
>> >Date: 14 Nov 1995 12:30:36 GMT
>>
>> >Pretty self-explanatory, I guess. But I was just wondering what
brands
>> >of cigarettes the Beatles smoked.....
>>
>> >Thanks for all replies by followup or email....
>>
>> Just a guess here, Charles, but in The First U.S. Visit, George and
>> John do a nice little stereo speech on the train to Washington D.C.
>> about their "Malboro's with micro-knee-fingers" and "a big
>> cigarette for a big man", since he and John were "buddies and pals".
>>
>> I could be in left field, tho'. =)
> I think I remember reading in Drugs, Divorce and a slipping image
that
>George smoked Kents.
>
Back in 88, the year when practically every Beatle made it to the cover
of Rolling Stone, the RS with George on the cover with the interview, i
think this was 87 when he released Cloud 9, anyways, in the interview
it is mentioned that he smoked Marborolo lights. i remember reading
somewhere else that someone was touched by the fact that there were a
pack of Larks in the back of a limo waiting for him. it turned out they
weren't for him, they were Ringos.


DigitsCD

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Nov 23, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/23/95
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John Silvers in the UK, sometimes Larks in the US.

Ed Ellers

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Nov 24, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/24/95
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In article <492ool$q...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, digi...@aol.com says...

>John Silvers in the UK, sometimes Larks in the US.

The brand I'd heard mentioned was Peter Stuyvesant.


clu...@pnn.com

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thero...@aol.com (TheRonster) wrote:

>Wondered cec...@news.epix.net (Charles A. Eckert):


>>> Pretty self-explanatory, I guess. But I was just
>>> wondering what brands
>>> of cigarettes the Beatles smoked.....

> A friend of mine spent 3-4 days as John Lennon's buddy in May 1975, when
>she had some connection with Capitol and he was in Philadelphia on his own
>for some sort of radio telethon benefit. (By the way, if anyone has photos
>or audio from this event, she'd be thrilled!)
> At that time, anyway, John was smoking More cigarettes. That's right --
>the extra-long, dark brown, skinny ciggies that I thought only women
>smoked.
> Apparently he liked how long they lasted, and how they go out if you set
>'em in the ashtray and get distracted. My friend has bought these long red
>packs ever since.
>
>-- Ron
>thero...@aol.com

during thieir first visit to america they smoked Marlbaros. thiers a
humerous exchange between George and John in the movie Documenting
thier vsit concerning the cigarettes. late in life John smoked
Gitanes.


E. Church

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Nov 29, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/29/95
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clu...@pnn.com writes:

>thero...@aol.com (TheRonster) wrote:

>>Wondered cec...@news.epix.net (Charles A. Eckert):
>>>> Pretty self-explanatory, I guess. But I was just
>>>> wondering what brands
>>>> of cigarettes the Beatles smoked.....

(snip)


>> At that time, anyway, John was smoking More cigarettes. That's right --
>>the extra-long, dark brown, skinny ciggies that I thought only women
>>smoked.

>during thieir first visit to america they smoked Marlbaros. thiers a

As Paul said in the Anthology, they smoked "herbal jazz cigarettes."

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