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TSA

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Dec 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/21/99
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I was just reading where Paul connects with M Hopkin and
suggests the song 'Those Were The Days' saying "I've got
this song....."
Just prior to that ,the article is talking about this pub
that paul was frequenting because he liked the group there,
and it says"Paul first heard the song Those Were the Days
at the pub......"

Was that Paul's song through authorship or purchase ??

BIG T

scot...@my-deja.com

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Dec 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/22/99
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Yeah, I read that in "Many Years From Now". He heard it at the Blue
Angel cabaret club in Berkley Square. Amateur cabaret player Gene
Raskin from America and his wife, Francesca, had both sung it. Paul
wrote to him when he met MAry Hopkin, asking whose song it was. Gene
replied that it was a Russian melody arranged and worded by him and his
wife. Raskin then wrote Hopkin a lead sheet.
Paul was the producer, for Apple, and he set it up and even had her
sing it in German, French, and Spanish... the interesting part is that
Paul liked the tune so much that he remembered it for three or four
years, and then found a person to record it. He was a catchy-tune
finder!
David

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Jack86420

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Dec 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/22/99
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'Those Were the Days' took its melody from a Russian song. Don't know about the
words... maybe they were Paul's, maybe a translation from the Russian ones.

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D 28IF

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Dec 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/22/99
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>From: jack...@aol.comRUSNAK (Jack86420)

>
>'Those Were the Days' took its melody from a Russian song. Don't know about
>the
>words... maybe they were Paul's, maybe a translation from the Russian ones.


This reminds me of a question to which I've never seen a good response.

How can Paul take something like "Mary Had A Little Lamb," "Golden Slumbers,"
and George with "Inner Light," and get full copyrights on them when they're not
fully the work of Paul or George?

Some are traditional songs. How do you copyright them?

Wouldn't you have to credit it as something like, "Music - Paul McCartney;
Lyrics - traditional"?

lstoll

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Dec 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/22/99
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From: jack...@aol.comRUSNAK (Jack86420)
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> 'Those Were the Days' took its melody from athe Russian
> song. Don't know about words... maybe they were Paul's,
> maybe a translation from the Russian ones.

I don't think that song is even partly credited to Paul. -laura

num...@hotmail.com

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Dec 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/22/99
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In article <3860AE...@lstoll.com>,

Paul had nothing to do with the songwriting.
mike

Beatlfilms

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Dec 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/22/99
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>> 'Those Were the Days' took its melody from athe Russian
>> song. Don't know about words... maybe they were Paul's,
>> maybe a translation from the Russian ones.
>
>I don't think that song is even partly credited to Paul. -laura

According to the Billboard Book Of Top 40 Hits, the melody for Those Were The
Days is based on "the traditional Russian folk song Dear For Me."

According to the Rolling Stone Encyclopedia Of Rock & Roll, Those Were The Days
had been previously recorded by the Limeliters, "who adapted it from a Russian
folk song called Darogoi Dlimmoya (Dear For Me), first recorded in the
Twenties."

Paul supervised the Mary Hopkins' recording sessions of the song.

Shawn
http://www.beatlefilms.com

paramucho

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Dec 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/23/99
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>Yeah, I read that in "Many Years From Now". He heard it at the Blue
>Angel cabaret club in Berkley Square. Amateur cabaret player Gene
>Raskin from America and his wife, Francesca, had both sung it. Paul
>wrote to him when he met MAry Hopkin, asking whose song it was. Gene
>replied that it was a Russian melody arranged and worded by him and his
>wife. Raskin then wrote Hopkin a lead sheet.
>Paul was the producer, for Apple, and he set it up and even had her
>sing it in German, French, and Spanish... the interesting part is that
>Paul liked the tune so much that he remembered it for three or four
>years, and then found a person to record it. He was a catchy-tune
>finder!

At the time it was released I was reminded of Edith Piaf's "Milord",
a chanson with the same slow verse and rousing chorus, and similar
chords. "Milord" was a mega hit in the very early sixties.

These days, when ever I try to recall the tune of "Milord", I end
up humming "Those Were The Days".

Paul was in great form in the hit department at the time and he
probably did have the song locked away in his mind for later use. I
wonder why he stopped producing other artists after 1969.

BTW: no one was ever under the impression that he wrote the song at
the time. The hit he did write, "Goodbye" had one phrase that was
musically reminiscent of "Those Were The Days" ("and i will not be
late").


--
ian


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