Relationships?
Jim Beam
over John and Yoko's marrige just wondering about in here.
Me married seven years (1987-1994), divorced and no rug-rats that I
know of, lived on my own intill 2007, moved in with my girlfried then.
Marrige is down the line(:
when, that's a different question.
Anybody else willing to share?
Phred
Phred
================
Oops fast fingers gave a blank response before.
My relationships all ended because I had an addiction problem.
I was addicted to emotionally damaged women I thought I could help.
A great 32 year old son came out of marriage 2 that I raised on my own
from age 8 and I put a stepson now 38 through college while putting
his mom through grad school all out of my own pocket - when those two
were finished with me, they were gone and never heard a thank you
after that,
Finally, I settled down (now 15 years) with an unconditional love
relationship in which I helped raise her two teenage daughters who
have a great reationship with my son as brothers and sisters, My
wife''s ex has no relationship with his daughters and has only seen
his two grandkids twice since they were born, I am defacto grandpapa
and he is only know as mom's dad.
This Christmas will again be joyous with all of us together, enjoying
our Christmas music of traditionals and Rubber Soul on heavy rotation,
God Bless you all,,,,,
It;s not how you start the race, it is how you finish that counts
sometimes,,,,,,
Mack A. Damia
I was married in 1968 to a beautiful student nurse. I went to Vietnam
shortly thereafter, so there was a bit of a strain early in our
marriage although we met in Honolulu, Hawaii, and stayed for five days
on Waikiki for my R & R.
We lasted until 1976 when we separated. We were married too young,
and we grew "out of love". Divorced one year later with no children
involved, fortunately. I would have made a terrible parent.
But I was married again here in Mexico in 2002, and........... are you
absolutely certain you want to hear the story, "Tequila Mockingbird"?
Involves sex, drugs, rock-and-roll and much more...........
Jeff
No sharing/swapping of girlfriends.
Jim Beam
Who said anything about that?
Mike Kekich and Fritz Peterson did it in 1972 while pitching
for the N.Y. Yankees
Jim Beam
> On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:22:18 -0800 (PST), Jim Beam
>
> >As we all know that there have been arguments and name calling
> >over John and Yoko's marrige just wondering about in here.
> >Me married seven years (1987-1994), divorced and no rug-rats that I
> >know of, lived on my own intill 2007, moved in with my girlfried then.
> >Marrige is down the line(:
> > when, that's a different question.
> >Anybody else willing to share?
>
> I was married in 1968 to a beautiful student nurse. I went to Vietnam
> shortly thereafter, so there was a bit of a strain early in our
> marriage although we met in Honolulu, Hawaii, and stayed for five days
> on Waikiki for my R & R.
>
> We lasted until 1976 when we separated. We were married too young,
> and we grew "out of love". Divorced one year later with no children
> involved, fortunately. I would have made a terrible parent.
Same here, had and have a hard taking care of myself,
never mind a kid. With my luck he or she would grow up
and be worse than I was.
>
> But I was married again here in Mexico in 2002, and........... are you
> absolutely certain you want to hear the story, "Tequila Mockingbird"?
>
> Involves sex, drugs, rock-and-roll and much more...........
That's up to you, but the above sounds very tempting.
Jim Beam
You seem like a good man.
RichL
Not really. Some of the old-timers know. The newbies don't need to.
richforman
That sentiment is actually kind of inspiring for me right now. I am
in the midst of what seems like a pretty bad marriage a lot of the
time, I get the feeling when I look around that all of them have
problems, many way worse than mine, and I don't feel sorry for myself,
I'm thankful for so much and know I"m so lucky but this relationship
is not giving either of us a lot of happiness for the most part, we
are really not compatible and there are so many hurts and resentments
that have built up over the years. (It's not always terrible,
sometimes the clouds part and we enjoy some nice lighter carefree time
together and enjoy each other's company, but really those times are
more and more the exception and right now, the last couple days, it's
hard to see when the next will be.) Anyway I have a vague plan to get
out and start again when the youngest of the kids is out of the house
- they're not "my" kids, my step-kids, 4 girls, but I love them and I
think they love me and I just wouldn't put them through having their
lives disrupted and family broken up a second time, especially the
youngest two, we are really bonded and have a warm, loving
relationship......I think anyway........but at any rate it'll be
another, oh, 8 or 9 years before the youngest one is in college, at
that point I"ll be working my way through my mid to late 50's, maybe
it won't be too late to find someone who shares more of my interests
and likes and more importantly general attitude toward and view of
life.....or at any rate to go back to enjoying freedom like I did
until my long-delayed marraige (at 41, now I'm 48).....hoping I"ll
still be sprightly, healthy and energetic enough by then to enjoy
it.
So anyway Phred your story and your closing line are very hopeful for
me, thanks!
Wow normally I wouldn't talk like that around here...it's late, I'm
tired.
richforman
Mack A. Damia
It's truly a horror story, and I wrote everything down. Unfortunately,
it's rather long,and I do mean long, so I had better give you an
abridged version.
Let me take a sauna first, and I'll be right back after station
identification........
Mack A. Damia
Dr. Strangemonde
> As we all know that there have been arguments and name calling
> over John and Yoko's marrige just wondering about in here.
I don't have any real relationship with Yoko worth speaking of.
However, if the two times that I got together with Courtney Love are
any indication of my prospects regarding famous rock widows, I doubt
that Yoko and me would end up being anything remotely resembling
soulmates. (Besides which, an acquaintance of mine pulled a mildly
dirty trick on Ms. Ono once, and I always end up getting blamed for my
friends' antics in those sorts of situations).
- Dr S
Fattuchus
>
> > As we all know that there have been arguments and name calling
> > over John and Yoko's marrige just wondering about in here.
> > Me married seven years (1987-1994), divorced and no rug-rats that I
> > know of, lived on my own intill 2007, moved in with my girlfried then.
> > Marrige is down the line(:
> > when, that's a different question.
> > Anybody else willing to share?
>
> ================
>
> Oops fast fingers gave a blank response before.
>
> My relationships all ended because I had an addiction problem.
>
> I was addicted to emotionally damaged women I thought I could help.
>
> A great 32 year old son came out of marriage 2 that I raised on my own
> from age 8 and I put a stepson now 38 through college while putting
> his mom through grad school all out of my own pocket - when those two
> were finished with me, they were gone and never heard a thank you
> after that,
So sad to read this.
>
> Finally, I settled down (now 15 years) with an unconditional love
> relationship in which I helped raise her two teenage daughters who
> have a great reationship with my son as brothers and sisters, My
> wife''s ex has no relationship with his daughters and has only seen
> his two grandkids twice since they were born, I am defacto grandpapa
> and he is only know as mom's dad.
>
> This Christmas will again be joyous with all of us together, enjoying
> our Christmas music of traditionals and Rubber Soul on heavy rotation,
>
> God Bless you all,,,,,
What a wonderful happy ending!
Happy holidays.
Fattuchus
LOL!
Fattuchus
As for me, I do not want to go into many details about my personal
life except to say I've been together with the same "significant
other" for what feels like 1000 years. He's a good man. I can't
imagine life without him, even when he drives me crazy.
JohnB
My first marriage didn't work out - we married too young (emotionally,
that is) and when we grew, I wasn't what she wanted me to be and I
felt suffocated. However, those five years brought me two daughters
who have grown to be fine young women (and one has now given me two
lovely grand-daughters) so it isn't all bad news. I'm now married for
the second time to a woman with many wonderful qualities but with a
few demons too. Just goes to show, there's not much in this world
that's perfect.
Jeff
> On Dec 14, 5:23 pm, Jeff <yourimageunre...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 14, 2:22 pm, Jim Beam <Tenbeers1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > As we all know that there have been arguments and name calling
> > > over John and Yoko's marrige just wondering about in here.
> > > Me married seven years (1987-1994), divorced and no rug-rats that I
> > > know of, lived on my own intill 2007, moved in with my girlfried then.
> > > Marrige is down the line(:
> > > when, that's a different question.
> > > Anybody else willing to share?
>
> > No sharing/swapping of girlfriends.
>
> Who said anything about that?
I was being funny.
> Mike Kekich and Fritz Peterson did it in 1972 while pitching
> for the N.Y. Yankees
:-)
Jeff
My story is too complicated, and I doubt anybody could
relate, so....I'll sit back and enjoy the rest of the thread.
M C hammered
> As we all know that there have been arguments and name calling
> over John and Yoko's marrige just wondering about in here.
Yes and its a shame. When will people finely GET IT?? John CHOSE to
be with the friggin Yoke!! He was a grown man. He MADE his cotton
pickin choices!!! An ya CANT QUESTION the choices of a growed man.
AWRITE?
Now these Yoke basha's, they CHOSE to bash the Yoke.
Wait...hold on....dint mean ta say that....
firk!!!
Now ole mista charlies all confused....
Time ferra nutha spliff...
Back in a mint fokes...
Nuff said
BLACKPOOLJIMMY
>
> >Not really. �Some of the old-timers know. �The newbies don't need to.
>
> On that note I'll pass, too.
Had one wife...we both went out to the local green to play Bocce ball.
During a lull, I spotted a sauage and pepper stand down the block.."be
right back" I yelled, racing to my favorite sandwich. On my return, my
wife was gone...never to be seen again.
To this day, I cannot look at anything Bocce.
who?
This is sad, Jimmy. How long were you married to her, and
about how old were you at the time?
Jeff
BLACKPOOLJIMMY
Jeff, Jeff, Jeff.....I was joking. Bocce ball?.. sausage and
peppers?...
I am certainly not going to post REAL personal info of this sort in
this mudhole.
The Arranger
Look at the bright side. At least you didn't buy two sausages.
The Arranger
BLACKPOOLJIMMY
Do you have that backwards?
Mack A. Damia
<Blackpo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> >Not really. ?Some of the old-timers know. ?The newbies don't need to.
>>
>> On that note I'll pass, too.
>
>Had one wife...we both went out to the local green to play Bocce ball.
>During a lull, I spotted a sauage and pepper stand down the block.."be
>right back" I yelled, racing to my favorite sandwich. On my return, my
>wife was gone...never to be seen again.
>
>To this day, I cannot look at anything Bocce.
Problems with your pork?
BLACKPOOLJIMMY
> On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:41:55 -0800 (PST), BLACKPOOLJIMMY
>
>
> >> >Not really. ?Some of the old-timers know. ?The newbies don't need to.
>
> >> On that note I'll pass, too.
>
> >Had one wife...we both went out to the local green to play Bocce ball.
> >During a lull, I spotted a sauage and pepper stand down the block.."be
> >right back" I yelled, racing to my favorite sandwich. On my return, my
> >wife was gone...never to be seen again.
>
> >To this day, I cannot look at anything Bocce.
>
> Problems with your pork?
Too pink in the middle.
BLACKPOOLJIMMY
:-)
Mack A. Damia
I never would have imagined that you were married.
You seem like a free bird.
A loon? :)
(Kidding, of course - but how does your husband handle your hatred of
Yoko?)
Mack A. Damia
<Blackpo...@aol.com> wrote:
Basting makes it stiff?
BLACKPOOLJIMMY
>
> - Show quoted text -
I like to par boil first, then brown to a nice firm link. Something I
can stick in my mashed potato, without falling over.
Mack A. Damia
<Blackpo...@aol.com> wrote:
Egg shirly, I cook mine with a drop of water in the pan on low heat.
When the water has boiled away and the links are slightly brown,
they're done.
Best way to cook 'em.
Loverly sausages in Mexico, too.
Fattuchus
> ......even when he drives me crazy.
>
> Do you have that backwards?
I drive him crazy . . . . in a good way.
Fattuchus
> On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 01:32:25 -0800 (PST), Fattuchus
>
> >On Dec 14, 3:22 pm, Jim Beam <Tenbeers1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> As we all know that there have been arguments and name calling
> >> over John and Yoko's marrige just wondering about in here.
> >> Me married seven years (1987-1994), divorced and no rug-rats that I
> >> know of, lived on my own intill 2007, moved in with my girlfried then.
> >> Marrige is down the line(:
> >> when, that's a different question.
> >> Anybody else willing to share?
>
> >As for me, I do not want to go into many details about my personal
> >life except to say I've been together with the same "significant
> >other" for what feels like 1000 years. He's a good man. I can't
> >imagine life without him, even when he drives me crazy.
>
> I never would have imagined that you were married.
>
> You seem like a free bird.
In some ways, I am!
>
> A loon? :)
I prefer to think of myself as an eagle, hawk or falcon.
>
> (Kidding, of course - but how does your husband handle your hatred of
> Yoko?)
That's easy. My SO knows I don't hate Yoko. And the things and say I
do in real life hardly have anything to do with the RMB, the Beatles,
John & Yoko, etc. He knows I am interested in the Beatles and about a
million other things which I don't discuss at RMB. RMB is a Beatles
group so the discussion here tends to be focused, but that does not
mean I have no life outside of RMB. (hard to believe :-) )
Fattuchus
> Fattuchus <fattuc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > That's easy. My SO knows I don't hate Yoko. And the things and say I
> > do in real life hardly have anything to do with the RMB, the Beatles,
> > John & Yoko, etc. He knows I am interested in the Beatles and about a
> > million other things which I don't discuss at RMB. RMB is a Beatles
> > group so the discussion here tends to be focused
>
>
> "See you later, honey...enjoy sleeping. I'm off to spend most of the
> night clawing at John Lennon's widow. Oh, and sorry about missing
> Thanksgiving this year, but pouring out a few thousand words against
> Muslims to a Beatles newsgroup was a bigger priority."
>
> > RMB is a Beatles group so the discussion here tends to be focused
>
There are many, many things in life outside of music, Muslims, Beatles
and you.
BTW, I had a wonderful Thanksgiving with family. How about you?
Fattuchus
> Cop."
>
> > BTW, I had a wonderful Thanksgiving with family. How about you?
>
> throughout the course of the day. All about how much you hate Muslims.
> Happy holidays!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
So, you're counting? Whether it was 30 times or 1000 times, I still
had a great time out with family. I dont' hate all Muslims. But I do
hate terrorists and/or Muslims that try to kill Jews and Westerners.
So what did you do for Thanksgiving besides keeping track of my posts?
BTW, do you have a significant other in your life?
Fattuchus
> Fattuchus <fattuc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > As I recall, you posted around 30 times to RMB on Thanksgiving
> > > throughout the course of the day. All about how much you hate Muslims.
> > > Happy holidays!- Hide quoted text -
>
> > had a great time out with family.
>
> to RMB on Thanksgiving, but it would be interesting to know.
>
> > So what did you do for Thanksgiving besides keeping track of my posts?
>
> > BTW, do you have a significant other in your life?
>
I think you answered the question.
>
> Funny how you've pounced on all my recent replies except the one which
> commented upon you defending the Two Virgins album cover with exactly
> the sort of argument which could be used to defend Yoko Ono's art in
> general. Oh well, it's not like anyone here would EVER expect you to be
> intellectually honest.
who?
I hug myself sometimes accidently on purpose trying to scratch my
own back. I can't get in the right spots and it's a painful
hug/squeeze. It would hurt more if I put both of my arms behind
my back at the same time. I tried doing that the other night,
almost fell out of bed, and instead farted. Secretary of Beth
was watching and laughed. She wears these boots that look
funny. I was inspecting them and I farted some more.
She slapped my hand and told me to go to sleep. That
was a mistake. You can guess what happened next.
All we have is beans in this place.
who?
> On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:41:55 -0800 (PST), BLACKPOOLJIMMY
>
>
> >> >Not really. ?Some of the old-timers know. ?The newbies don't need to.
>
> >> On that note I'll pass, too.
>
> >Had one wife...we both went out to the local green to play Bocce ball.
> >During a lull, I spotted a sauage and pepper stand down the block.."be
> >right back" I yelled, racing to my favorite sandwich. On my return, my
> >wife was gone...never to be seen again.
>
> >To this day, I cannot look at anything Bocce.
>
> Problems with your pork?
LMAO
Fattuchus
>
> - Show quoted text -
ROTFLMAO!
who?
Maybe you should try whipping it first, and then frying it.
OUCH!
:-)
who?
OMG
The Walrus was Danny
point? They only wind up getting divorced or pissed off at the end of
it. Strikes me that it's a bizarre way to get a hold onto somebody to
try and prevent them fucking off with somebody else..when eventually
they do anyway. Marriage is a pointless and expensive exercise. If you
love somebody that's enough IMO.
Danny
Jeff
wrote:
Danny, I have one brother who has had the attitude with women, "just
fcuk em over..before they get a chance to fcuk you over" since he
was 13 years old. He dated girls till about the age of 18, and
he did very well with them. But, today he is 50, and still the same
way. Not all women will fcuk you over. It depends on who you are
with, and the type. My other brother and I never got married either.
Just don't have the desire to. I would even live alone, if I could
afford to....but it's nice sometimes just having someone next
to you. Beats being totally alone.
Jeff
Dale Houstman
> Marriage is bollocks..I have no idea why people do it.
Here's a reason: because unless you're married, you cannot be on the
other's healthcare plan (in the States). I lived "in sin" with my
"significant other" until I lost my job, and needed health insurance. So
we got married. Romantic hey?
> What's the
> point? They only wind up getting divorced or pissed off at the end of
> it. Strikes me that it's a bizarre way to get a hold onto somebody to
> try and prevent them fucking off with somebody else..when eventually
> they do anyway. Marriage is a pointless and expensive exercise. If you
> love somebody that's enough IMO.
Depends don't it? In the U.S. at least there are hundreds of reasons to
be married rather than just "love" someone.
And there's the notion of human rituals: which might be awfully silly
(what isn't besides living, eating, fucking, and dying?), but it's these
sorts of stupid affairs (born of rabid imaginations) that make humans
humans. After all, why hold on to even the silly poetic notion of
"love": procreating listlessly in the dirt and heat seems good enough
for most animals. If you're willing to accept one grandiose human myth
(Love) why necessarily stop there?
dmh
ILL K9
LookingGlass
>
> I hug myself sometimes accidently on purpose trying to scratch my
> own back. I can't get in the right spots and it's a painful
> hug/squeeze. It would hurt more if I put both of my arms behind
> my back at the same time. I tried doing that the other night,
> almost fell out of bed, and instead farted. Secretary of Beth
> was watching and laughed. She wears these boots that look
> funny. I was inspecting them and I farted some more.
> She slapped my hand and told me to go to sleep. That
> was a mistake. You can guess what happened next.
> All we have is beans in this place.
Jeff...you are a true RMB *treasure*.
LookingGlass
Historically, *marriage* was a business transaction. LOVE entered the
picture around the first millenium (CE).
who?
Thanks, Dave. I just try to bring some humor into this
place. We are still lacking the right food, so I say,
let er rip. Like my father says: It feels better out than
in. :-)
Jeff
JohnB
<snip>
>
> Historically, *marriage* was a business transaction. LOVE entered the
> picture around the first millenium (CE).
>
tool of some sort - except for the lowest of the low who had nothing
to bargain with or for but it was probably still more to do with
getting a good deal for life rather than "love" until probably
Victorian times.
Dale Houstman
millions every year without much conviction. The initial rush of sexual
adrenalin gives way (if lucky) to respect and trust and mutual
admiration and "fun times" and memories and duty and conviction, plus a
bit of lingering passion that can often emerge as rancor (hpoefully
passing) and resentment (same). "Love" is a neat human construct no more
or less valid than any other human utopianism. It's certainly managed to
inspire a whole cellarful of great, mediocre, and downright horrible
songs, and has led many a young person into a lifetime of regret and
disappointment. A wonderful thing as these things go...
dmh
LookingGlass
>
> ...and it's still a rather shaky and forlorn dream cake, baked by
> millions every year without much conviction. The initial rush of sexual
> adrenalin gives way (if lucky) to respect and trust and mutual
> admiration and "fun times" and memories and duty and conviction, plus a
> bit of lingering passion that can often emerge as rancor (hpoefully
> passing) and resentment (same). "Love" is a neat human construct no more
> or less valid than any other human utopianism. It's certainly managed to
> inspire a whole cellarful of great, mediocre, and downright horrible
> songs, and has led many a young person into a lifetime of regret and
> disappointment. A wonderful thing as these things go...
>
> dmh
Thanks be to Gene Kelly, LOVE does exist in the world.
:o)
Dale Houstman
Too bad he doesn't...
dmh
Jeff
Yeah, I Like to make people laugh if I can, Dave. I should
not have put PR's on that one post though. Bad judgement
on my part. I'm not into making people feel bad, or on the
defensive. Anyhow, a very serious situation happened
tonight: I was sitting at my computer, and all of a sudden,
Beth comes out of the bedroom to take some of her
pills. Next thing I know, she tripped, and was making
a joke about it. I wasn't paying much attention to
what was happening, but all of a sudden I hear this
sound like a suffocation sound. So, I jumped up
from this computer, and Beth is lying there on the
floor...a few feet away from me off to the right.
I'm standing behind the back of her head, and
suddenly...she starts snoring. Her eyes are fixed,
staring into space, and I could tell Beth can't
breath. It scared the shit out of me, and I didn't
know what to do. So, I put my thumb on her
bottom lip to open her mouth so she could
breathe. She finally told me to let go of her
lip, but she stared into space and wasn't
responding to me while I called 911. Then
she shut her eyes for about 10 minutes, as
if she was asleep. I almost went into shock.
I think you said you don't believe in God, and
I'm not writing this to change your mind. I'm
just saying to me it's a miracle she's
survived this. It was a horrible experience
that I saw tonight.
Jeff
AllaBest
Jeff
>
> Did the ER advise keeping her overnight for testing and observation?
Thanks so much for caring to answer my post. She was kept
overnight at the hospital. They are still doing tests, and I'm
not sure if she'll be released today. She had a seizure
we think. I'm concerned because after having breast cancer
almost 5 years ago, they found a spot and think she has
skin cancer. This was before she had the seizure last night,
and the results of that test haven't come back yet.
Jeff
Jeff
Thanks. I haven't heard this before. Is it a boot?
Check this out, Robert.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBz7kWsB_Io&feature=related
Jeff
LookingGlass
(snip)
> It was a horrible experience
> that I saw tonight.
>
> Jeff
I just now read this Jeff. I hope everything is OK now.
Jeff
Thanks, Dave. She is ok, but I've never seen anyone
fall to the floor before, and start snoring.
It makes no sense.