The Top Ten Unreleased Beatles Songs
John Doherty
I thought ermitano’s recent post on new bootlegs was a good, (oddly
“on-topic”) post. And with all the available resources on the
internets, new people are finding this stuff all the time. So here’s a
top ten list that is very much on-topic. I am not ranking these by my
favorite, but trying to get to the mostly unheard Lennon, McCartney or
Harrison compositions not yet officially released or available for
purchase. I may have overlooked something, let me know if you think
so.
1.) A Case of the Blues
2.) Sour Milk Sea
3.) Suicide
4.) He Got the Blues
5.) Circles
6.) Gone Tomorrow, Here Today
7.) Watching Rainbows
8.) How Do You Tell Someone?
9.) Everybody Had a Hard Year
10.)Child of Nature
Bonus list:
Now & Then: Lennon demo worked on briefly by Threetles in 94. Did they
add the older Lennon samples (from Sun King & Love is Real)? I am not
sure if the versions I’ve heard are the Threetles or a fan redo.
Some LenMacs given away, for which demos are out there:
One & One is Two
I’m In Love
I Don’t Want to See You Again
From A Window
It’s For You
Nobody I Know
Breakdown of the top ten:
1.) A Case of the Blues : a strange little Beatle era Lennon solo
demo about feeling down, it fades in with a weird little blues shuffle
1:54, but done a couple of times also during the Let It Be sessions.
“Albino-coloured glasses wearing knock-kneed shoes
Seventh church is on his head its on-headed glue
Sales in the morning, it's a case of the blues oh oh oh”
2.) Sour Milk Sea : this White Album outtake of George’s got no
respect at all, and was given away to Jackie Lomax, where it promptly
disappeared into obscurity. It’s a close cousin of Savoy Truffle, and
GH seems to be singing about radiating positivity to get it back from
the universe. George’s demo is part of the Esher demos named for his
1968 era house.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym0VNodPPVc&feature=related
3.) Suicide: a jaunty McCartney sort of dance hall number about a
woman in an abusive relations
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdbQEG87yR0&feature=related
4.) He Got the Blues: another Lennon ode to feeling bad;-)
5.) Circles: This is another Esher demo of George’s intended as a
White Album song. It makes Blue Jay Way sound cheery, with a creepy
church organ set to lyrics of lysergic dread and spiritual despair:
“love comes and love goes, and I go round in circles...he who speaks
does not know, and he who knows does not speak, and I go round in
circles...”. It’s grown on me, though it was off-putting at first.
George redid this for his “Gone Troppo” album in a different version.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVslg4X6HNA
(you can hear #s 6 & 10 here as well)
6.) Gone Tomorrow, Here Today: Paul semi improvising a song during
the White album sessions
7.) Watching Rainbows : A Lennon song from GB sessions. Some love it,
but maybe I have not yet heard the right version. I can’t say it’s
grabbed me, yet.
8.) How Do You Tell Someone? A George song from GB sessions-- it’s
more developed than Rainbows, but still a work in progress.
9.) Everybody Had a Hard Year : (actually these last two are “semi-
released”) John’s half of “I’ve Got a Feeling” is an acoustic
recounting of a tough time, just after Yoko lost the baby. The
Cheatles fixed up a nice version of this.
10.)Child of Nature: The tune was later used for JL’s “Jealous Guy”.
Here the context is more of a groovy salute to the fab moment of
arriving in Rishikesh, just before Lennon soured on yet another
“Daddy”, when the Fabs suspected the Maharishi was trying to get with
the ladies on the trip. After having written Sexy Sadie about this
disillusionment, “Child of Nature” would have seemed contradictory,
so he let it lie until Jealous Guy.
JohnB
>
> 3.) Suicide: a jaunty McCartney sort of dance hall number about a
>
> 4.) He Got the Blues: another Lennon ode to feeling bad;-)
>
> 5.) Circles: This is another Esher demo of George’s intended as a
> White Album song. It makes Blue Jay Way sound cheery, with a creepy
> church organ set to lyrics of lysergic dread and spiritual despair:
> “love comes and love goes, and I go round in circles...he who speaks
> does not know, and he who knows does not speak, and I go round in
> circles...”. It’s grown on me, though it was off-putting at first.
> (you can hear #s 6 & 10 here as well)
>
> 6.) Gone Tomorrow, Here Today: Paul semi improvising a song during
> the White album sessions
>
> 7.) Watching Rainbows : A Lennon song from GB sessions. Some love it,
> but maybe I have not yet heard the right version. I can’t say it’s
> grabbed me, yet.
>
> 8.) How Do You Tell Someone? A George song from GB sessions-- it’s
> more developed than Rainbows, but still a work in progress.
>
> 9.) Everybody Had a Hard Year : (actually these last two are “semi-
> released”) John’s half of “I’ve Got a Feeling” is an acoustic
> recounting of a tough time, just after Yoko lost the baby. The
> Cheatles fixed up a nice version of this.
>
> 10.)Child of Nature: The tune was later used for JL’s “Jealous Guy”.
> Here the context is more of a groovy salute to the fab moment of
> arriving in Rishikesh, just before Lennon soured on yet another
> “Daddy”, when the Fabs suspected the Maharishi was trying to get with
> the ladies on the trip. After having written Sexy Sadie about this
> disillusionment, “Child of Nature” would have seemed contradictory,
> so he let it lie until Jealous Guy.
Can't add anything in unreleased songs, though somebody's bound to say
'Carnival Of Light'.
But there are some good alternative versions not offically released.
I've got a boot of She's A Woman that's got a long fadeout to about 6
minutes, and if it could have been tidied up a bit, it would have been
a good addition to the Anthology set.
Also, I don't think the long Revolution (take 20?) has been officially
released yet.
John Doherty
>
> Can't add anything in unreleased songs, though somebody's bound to say
> 'Carnival Of Light'.
I have not yet heard Carnival of Light, but I gather it makes Rev. #9
sound more like a formal song. I've heard several fake Carnivals.
> But there are some good alternative versions not offically released.
> I've got a boot of She's A Woman that's got a long fadeout to about 6
> minutes, and if it could have been tidied up a bit, it would have been
> a good addition to the Anthology set.
> Also, I don't think the long Revolution (take 20?) has been officially
> released yet.
right-- theone that starts out :
engineer: "Take..."
Lennon: "...yer knickers off & let's go"
That's great, and I should have put it in the honorable mentions.
It's one of my favorite Beatle boots, as it clocks in at 10:46. It
starts acoustic, with the familiar guitar lines of Revolution #1. Then
it tumbles and morphs into chaos, only to end up with parts of
Revolution #9. In the middle, though, it's neither fish nor fowl. I
guess that middle section qualifies as new, but it's hardly a song per
se.
Great boot, though, in any case.
That's a great song to put on at 2 am when the party's winding down.
gemjack
<jo...@johndoherty.com> wrote:
>The Top Ten Unreleased Beatles songs
This would have to be a short list. Could you even have a top 20?
Most stuff I've heard unreleased sounds too sub par to be enjoyed
regularly or was just a working version of an eventually finished
song, though I admit to not having heard all those mentioned.
John Doherty
> On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 10:21:17 -0700 (PDT), John Doherty
>
On Mar 30, 10:47 am, gemjack <geminijackso...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> This would have to be a short list. Could you even have a top 20?
> Most stuff I've heard unreleased sounds too sub par to be enjoyed
> regularly or was just a working version of an eventually finished
> song, though I admit to not having heard all those mentioned.
Well, there are no <<fully produced>> unreleased Beatles songs. But I
operate from the principle that I'd rather view Leonardo's discarded
sketches than most finished work of artists working today.
In that, some of these are fascinating. Sour Milk Sea is a nice piece
of work, though it's a demo recorded at home. It makes me appreciate
the way George's songs were not given equal reception. Circles is less
radio friendly, but if you dig the George spiritual trip, it's a key
step in the journey.
Suicide is available in several variations (during Beatles sessions
and after), and true to Paul's musicianship, is one of the most
finished song ideas on the list. The only version of "Gone
Tomorrow..." I've heard unfortunately has chat in the foreground. It's
still tantalizing for an unrealized McCartney song.
Along those lines, and not on the list is "Heather", a likable bit
o'fluff from Paul's session with Donovan. Not sure if it's improvised,
but he does a little child's rhyme about his future step daughter.
It's no "Eleanor Rigby", but I'd put it better than some published
Paul stuff like "Wild Honey Pie", for instance (even if that's faint
praise).
And of course, there are plenty of alternates and a wealth of covers
from the Get Back sessions, some of them big fun.
I have a one minute one off of Dylan's "Rainy Day Women #s 12 &
35" (i.e. "Everybody must get stoned") that is great, with McCartney &
Lennon trading lines.
rwalker
<jo...@johndoherty.com> wrote:
>I have a one minute one off of Dylan's "Rainy Day Women #s 12 &
>35" (i.e. "Everybody must get stoned") that is great, with McCartney &
>Lennon trading lines.
A lot of the "Get Back" stuff is not that great in and of itself, but
it is interesting to hear all the various influences and the various
artists that apparently caught their ears.
nowhere man
news:peg6p61sen2ui0321...@4ax.com:
as far as top unreleased Beatle songs go - Anthology pretty much belatedly
cleared that score up.
there is nothing much, of any decent audio quality from abbey road, new,
left to release (apart from mono or different takes/mixes)
5 songs from the decca sessions were included on Anthology.
The other ten are unreleased (officially). They are:
Money (That's What I Want); Till There Was You; To Know Her Is to Love Her;
Take Good Care of My Baby, Memphis, Tennessee; Sure to Fall; Crying,
Waiting, Hoping; Love of the Loved; September in the Rain; and Bésame
Mucho.
I must admit I have always loved John's rather nervous version of To Know
Her is to Love Her. It was this Decca version that turned me on to the
song, some 25 years ago. And if I had a pound for every time that I sang
it across the years, in the car, or at uni, I'd be a rich man.
Beyond Decca, I really like the Beatles Jan 69 run through of All Things
Must Pass. I hadn't realised, til 4 or 5 years ago, that a good studio
quality version exists of this track. It might well have been worth
enhancing for an Anthology single (ala Free as a Bird). Tho the song was
already out there offically - so maybe never a go-er.
"If You've Got Trouble" was finally released on Anthology 2.
Take 1 of "That Means a Lot" also was on Anthology 2. I would have put
together a nicely mixed composite mix of this song, using the various
takes. I have always loved John's great "can't you see?" section of the
vocal. What an entrance from Johnny. A top notch vocal.
There are several takes of What a Shame Mary Jane had a Pain at the Party.
I cannot recall offhand what Anthology did with the song. But I would have
released a nice composite mix of the track.
There is a nice run-through (audio not great) of an off the cuff song, from
January 1969, called Commonwealth. Great lyrical ad-lib comeback from
John, to a Paul lyric, in that one. Total John.
Beyond the fab four, John has a some top notch unreleased demos. John's
demo "India" should have been worked on for Anthology IMHO. It is a sweet
positive song....totally finished, lyrically and musically.
Whatever Happened To is a superb rocker....a completely finished track,
both lyrically and musically. I wish he had taken it into the studio for a
session. Perhaps he might have released it in 1982 or 1983.
Gone From This Place is an unfinished demo. I love it's vibe. I think
with proper lyrics, it could have been one of John's top songs of the new
decade (i.e. the early to mid 80s).
Regarding the Now and Then demo, it is unfinished and a tad slow/maudling.
but I have heard recently someone who isolated (rather well), John's
vocals. And it is interesting.
Forgive my rambling.
JohnBL
> There is a nice run-through (audio not great) of an off the cuff song, from
> January 1969, called Commonwealth. Great lyrical ad-lib comeback from
> John, to a Paul lyric, in that one. Total John.
P: "Oh, Commonwealth, you know you're much too wealthy for me..."
J: "Much too COMMON for me!"
Just a few seconds that demonstrated why they were meant for each other. Even during their most miserable sessions.
John L
nowhere man
news:8648fb1a-1667-4755...@glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.
com:
I am delighted that someone else was aware (and loved) of what I was
referring to, John.
Classic Lennon comeback - *Much too COMMON for me* (and John repeated it in
case Paul had missed it...John was proud of his ad-lib spontaneous
comeback).
as you say, that single moment summed up the Lennon/McCartney dynamic.
The definitive yin and yang of songwriting partnerships.
It is no wonder that there music sounds, even some 40 plus years later, so
rounded and complete.
ermitano
>
> 3.) Suicide: a jaunty McCartney sort of dance hall number about a
>
> 4.) He Got the Blues: another Lennon ode to feeling bad;-)
>
> 5.) Circles: This is another Esher demo of George’s intended as a
> White Album song. It makes Blue Jay Way sound cheery, with a creepy
> church organ set to lyrics of lysergic dread and spiritual despair:
> “love comes and love goes, and I go round in circles...he who speaks
> does not know, and he who knows does not speak, and I go round in
> circles...”. It’s grown on me, though it was off-putting at first.
> (you can hear #s 6 & 10 here as well)
>
> 6.) Gone Tomorrow, Here Today: Paul semi improvising a song during
> the White album sessions
>
> 7.) Watching Rainbows : A Lennon song from GB sessions. Some love it,
> but maybe I have not yet heard the right version. I can’t say it’s
> grabbed me, yet.
>
> 8.) How Do You Tell Someone? A George song from GB sessions-- it’s
> more developed than Rainbows, but still a work in progress.
>
> 9.) Everybody Had a Hard Year : (actually these last two are “semi-
> released”) John’s half of “I’ve Got a Feeling” is an acoustic
> recounting of a tough time, just after Yoko lost the baby. The
> Cheatles fixed up a nice version of this.
>
> 10.)Child of Nature: The tune was later used for JL’s “Jealous Guy”.
> Here the context is more of a groovy salute to the fab moment of
> arriving in Rishikesh, just before Lennon soured on yet another
> “Daddy”, when the Fabs suspected the Maharishi was trying to get with
> the ladies on the trip. After having written Sexy Sadie about this
> disillusionment, “Child of Nature” would have seemed contradictory,
> so he let it lie until Jealous Guy.
from your list i think the most important or interesting tracks are
Child Of Nature, Circles, Sour Milk Sea and Everyone Had A Hard Year.
yes, i only selected songs that were eventually officially released.
I think A Case Of The Blues and Watching Rainbows are pretty boring
(same with Madman and Brian Epstein Blues). All those songs are very
similar, i think, they sound like Mean Mr Mustard and Polythene Pam.
I can't remember Gone Tomorrow, Here Today !! i know i have listen to
it, but i forgot it.
Suicide is almost a finished song.. but i don't think it was made for
the beatles and the existing demos are from the 70s., if i'm right.
I didn't know How Do You Tell.. i found it at Youtube, it sounds
interesting...
I couldn't find He Got The Blue.. do you have a link? i didn't know
that song, neither.
i would add this outtake:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBJyQQhHuck
it's almost the full Can You Take Me Back impro, but i don't think it
counts as an unreleased songs.
there are many unrelesed covers from the bbc sessions, like A Picture
Of You, Dream Baby, I'm Talking About You and even there are some
never aired but recorded songs (A Sheik Of Araby, Three Cool Cats and
Sheila.. i'm not completely sure about these songs).
Some unreleased songs never bootleged are Carnival Of Light and
Etcetera. I can't remember of any other.
Cheers John, up the on-topic posts!
marcuscp
>
> 3.) Suicide: a jaunty McCartney sort of dance hall number about a
>
> 4.) He Got the Blues: another Lennon ode to feeling bad;-)
>
> 5.) Circles: This is another Esher demo of George’s intended as a
> White Album song. It makes Blue Jay Way sound cheery, with a creepy
> church organ set to lyrics of lysergic dread and spiritual despair:
> “love comes and love goes, and I go round in circles...he who speaks
> does not know, and he who knows does not speak, and I go round in
> circles...”. It’s grown on me, though it was off-putting at first.
> (you can hear #s 6 & 10 here as well)
>
> 6.) Gone Tomorrow, Here Today: Paul semi improvising a song during
> the White album sessions
>
> 7.) Watching Rainbows : A Lennon song from GB sessions. Some love it,
> but maybe I have not yet heard the right version. I can’t say it’s
> grabbed me, yet.
>
> 8.) How Do You Tell Someone? A George song from GB sessions-- it’s
> more developed than Rainbows, but still a work in progress.
>
> 9.) Everybody Had a Hard Year : (actually these last two are “semi-
> released”) John’s half of “I’ve Got a Feeling” is an acoustic
> recounting of a tough time, just after Yoko lost the baby. The
> Cheatles fixed up a nice version of this.
>
> 10.)Child of Nature: The tune was later used for JL’s “Jealous Guy”.
> Here the context is more of a groovy salute to the fab moment of
> arriving in Rishikesh, just before Lennon soured on yet another
> “Daddy”, when the Fabs suspected the Maharishi was trying to get with
> the ladies on the trip. After having written Sexy Sadie about this
> disillusionment, “Child of Nature” would have seemed contradictory,
> so he let it lie until Jealous Guy.
Sour Milk Sea is one of my fave George songs, great pop/rock. I could
imagine the Monkeys doing it in their "Head" period.
Here's a mashup of the demo with Lomax's version, rather well done I
reckon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPgqsfahHY0&feature=related
John Doherty
On Mar 30, 11:18 pm, ermitano <maikelbur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> from your list i think the most important or interesting tracks are
> Child Of Nature, Circles, Sour Milk Sea and Everyone Had A Hard Year.
> yes, i only selected songs that were eventually officially released.
>
> I think A Case Of The Blues and Watching Rainbows are pretty boring
> (same with Madman and Brian Epstein Blues). All those songs are very
> similar, i think, they sound like Mean Mr Mustard and Polythene Pam.
>
> I can't remember Gone Tomorrow, Here Today !! i know i have listen to
> it, but i forgot it.
There's a link above for Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVslg4X6HNA
This also includes Circles & Child of Nature.
>
> Suicide is almost a finished song.. but i don't think it was made for
> the beatles and the existing demos are from the 70s., if i'm right.
As Monty Python once said, "I'm afraid you're very very much
mistaken";-) Here's a "Suicide" from the Get Back sessions with Lennon
clowning in the background:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko8FFP4Jcb0
>
> I didn't know How Do You Tell.. i found it at Youtube, it sounds
> interesting...
> I couldn't find He Got The Blue.. do you have a link? i didn't know
> that song, neither.
My iTunes says it's from "Long Lost Leftovers", here's a Bootleg Zone
page:
http://www.bootlegzone.com/album.php?name=mongcd021§ion=1&login=pimenton&pass=050cbfff9fcda6f2ab0eb90118e131df
They are lumping it with Lennon demos, but I thought it was a Beatle
era demo. I could be wrong. It's interesting, kind of more naked in
the narrative, so to speak, it's got a plaintive tone.
>
> i would add this outtake:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBJyQQhHuck
> it's almost the full Can You Take Me Back impro, but i don't think it
> counts as an unreleased songs.
I had forgotten that one, but I think it's as legit as my inclusion of
"Everyone Had a Hard Year".
>
> there are many unrelesed covers from the bbc sessions, like A Picture
> Of You, Dream Baby, I'm Talking About You and even there are some
> never aired but recorded songs (A Sheik Of Araby, Three Cool Cats and
> Sheila.. i'm not completely sure about these songs).
>
> Some unreleased songs never bootleged are Carnival Of Light and
> Etcetera. I can't remember of any other.
Etcetera is a good catch. That's an interesting McCartney
instrumental.
>
> Cheers John, up the on-topic posts!
Heh. Maybe I'll mention Yoko briefly in order to give this thread some
legs here ;-)
brilton
> 1.) A Case of the Blues : a strange little Beatle era Lennon solo
> demo about feeling down, it fades in with a weird little blues shuffle
> 1:54, but done a couple of times also during the Let It Be sessions.
> “Albino-coloured glasses wearing knock-kneed shoes
> Seventh church is on his head its on-headed glue
> Sales in the morning, it's a case of the blues oh oh oh”
Everyone knows it's a case of the blues. Yeah, of all of the ones in
this top ten that never got developed in to a real song, I think this
particular germ of a song shows the most promise.
>
> 4.) He Got the Blues: another Lennon ode to feeling bad;-)
Not familiar with this one.
> 7.) Watching Rainbows : A Lennon song from GB sessions. Some love it,
> but maybe I have not yet heard the right version. I can’t say it’s
> grabbed me, yet.
Basically this was just a one-off jam, immortalised by being bootlegged
in the late 70s. Not really even a song as such.
>
> 8.) How Do You Tell Someone? A George song from GB sessions-- it’s
> more developed than Rainbows, but still a work in progress.
I always found this one - even just the song title - annoyingly
didactic, and am glad that it never went any further. George would soon
be constructing a conveyor-belt of preachy songs anyway.
John Doherty
> On 30/03/11 1:21 AM, John Doherty wrote:
>
>
> > 4.) He Got the Blues: another Lennon ode to feeling bad;-)
>
On Mar 31, 9:46 am, brilton <notl...@yacht.net> wrote:
> Not familiar with this one.
This song is less Mr. Mustard-like than "A Case of the Blues". It's
more the plaintive, compassionate folky John Lennon - so maybe it is
post-breakup and post-primal scream.
In fact, in googling just now, I found that it's fromm the Lost Lennon
tapes, and in fact, is said to be from the late 70s:
http://www.jpgr.co.uk/walrus022.html
It's a fairly well recorded home demo, just voice & guitar. Here's a
taste of the lyric as far as I can glean:
"Johnny was a poor boy, had no ma & pa
(inaud) never traveled very far
he got the blues...
Johnny was good boy, did the best he can
Nobody would appreciate, he ended like a man"
>I always found this one - even just the song title - annoyingly
>didactic, and am glad that it never went any further. George would soon
>be constructing a conveyor-belt of preachy songs anyway.
Listening to the Harrison boot "Beware of Abkco", I was charmed by the
demo versions of songs I loved from ATMP, and in fact, could hear the
words so much better than in the Spector produced official release.
But hearing the culls he left behind was underwhelming. He got the
right advice to leave these off the album: "Beautiful Girl", "Tell Me
What Has Happened to You", etc. dreary, preachy crap from George.
There's even an apparent knock on Patti in Beautiful Girl. George says
the girl of the title is "not the type you go handing around", which
must be a reference to his ex wife off with Slow Hand.
In her recent book, Patti fills in the blanks that George came to the
conclusion that he was an incarnation of Krishna and was entitled,
therefore to a harem of women (just like Krishna is depicted in some
Indian art). That's a self serving twist up there with Newt Gingrich's
woody for Lady Liberty that lead him astray, and makes Lennon with
Yoko almost seem old fashioned by comparison. At the time, listening
to ATMP, and hearing about George, Patti and Eric, I assume Harrison
was living a monastic ascetic existence and suffering the betrayal of
his marriage.
Jales
September In The Rain (Decca)
Take Good Care Of My Baby (Decca)
Love Of The Loved (Decca)
A Picture Of You (BBC)
Dream Baby (BBC)
I'm Talking About You (BBC)
Carnival Of Light
.. and from the Get Back Sessions (*):
Watching Rainbows
Madman
Let It Down
Blues Instrumental (a slow blues recorded at Savile Row's recording
studio with Billy Preston on keyboards)
All Things Must Pass
I'll Wait Till Tomorrow
Won't You Please Say Goodbye
Because I Know I Love You So
Take This Hammer / Long Lost John / Black Dog Blues (medley)
Third Man Theme
(*) Pretty decent versions of all these songs can be obtained by
editing, EQing and mixing bits and pieces from different run-throughs/
rehearsals
There's also a demo version of Isn't It A Pity which I think was
recently included on a George compilation album, plus a couple of good
instrumental jams
John Doherty
Granted, my criteria are not yours, but of your early list, only one
of those is a Beatles original, and the rest covers. Two of your GB
suggestions <are released>> in fully realized versions, on All Things
Must Pass. I guess you could say the same about Circles, but I think
it's much more obscure to most of us. I recognize a few different
covers in the GB list as well: Third Man, Long Lost John, etc.
Who wrote which originals in the GB list? Can you share a brief
description of the unreleased originals you like there?
Skokiaan
> it's almost the full Can You Take Me Back impro, but i don't think it
> counts as an unreleased songs.
"Can You Take Me Back" is listed as a separate track on certain tape
releases of the White Album (reel-to-reel, possibly 8-track, too). So
technically it is indeed a released track and has been copyrighted
separately.
gemjack
<jo...@johndoherty.com> wrote:
>I have a one minute one off of Dylan's "Rainy Day Women #s 12 &
>35" (i.e. "Everybody must get stoned") that is great, with McCartney &
>Lennon trading lines.
Now this I'd like to hear. What's the name of that track?
John Doherty
> On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 09:56:40 -0700 (PDT), John Doherty
>
> >I have a one minute one off of Dylan's "Rainy Day Women #s 12 &
> >35" (i.e. "Everybody must get stoned") that is great, with McCartney &
> >Lennon trading lines.
>
On Mar 31, 12:08 pm, gemjack <geminijackso...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Now this I'd like to hear. What's the name of that track?
Uh, "Rainy Day Women #s 12 & 35".
It's up on Youtube, along with a funny Lennon adlib at the end:
John Doherty
reels with many excerpts of the sessions here:
http://www.npr.org/programs/asc/archives/live031403/
It's a two hour show, but well worth it for Beatle fans...
ermitano
>
> They are lumping it with Lennon demos, but I thought it was a Beatle
> era demo. I could be wrong. It's interesting, kind of more naked in
> the narrative, so to speak, it's got a plaintive tone.
>
>
>
> > i would add this outtake:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBJyQQhHuck
> > it's almost the full Can You Take Me Back impro, but i don't think it
> > counts as an unreleased songs.
>
> I had forgotten that one, but I think it's as legit as my inclusion of
> "Everyone Had a Hard Year".
>
>
>
> > there are many unrelesed covers from the bbc sessions, like A Picture
> > Of You, Dream Baby, I'm Talking About You and even there are some
> > never aired but recorded songs (A Sheik Of Araby, Three Cool Cats and
> > Sheila.. i'm not completely sure about these songs).
>
> > Some unreleased songs never bootleged are Carnival Of Light and
> > Etcetera. I can't remember of any other.
>
> Etcetera is a good catch. That's an interesting McCartney
> instrumental.
>
>
>
> > Cheers John, up the on-topic posts!
>
> Heh. Maybe I'll mention Yoko briefly in order to give this thread some
> legs here ;-)
yes, you're right about Suicide and i'm sure very much mistaken...
i can't imagine John playing a part in that song if they had decided
to record it on a beatles album, i think john would say "another
granny shit music by paul".
ermitano
i didn't know that. any pic/scan of it?
ermitano
i think we're forgetting about some early songs by paul and john
revisited at the get back sessions, like:
I Lost My Little Girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPf8oZS5q7U
Fancy Me Chances
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPf8oZS5q7U
Too Bad About Sorrows
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYF3vIDeAdI
Hot As Sun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YG-8I0VJaLQ
Just Fun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_N0AGuZWqQ
Wake Up In The Morning
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGh7buq8ByU
Won't You Please Say Goodbye
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7P-moA-MJQ
and now 2 bonus:
Annie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAtAGt8dFS4
i don't have any idea about this one.
and the Threetles track...
Thinking Of Linking
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3nAl1xDzGM
this was my source to find this songs:
http://www.columbia.edu/~brennan/beatles/songs-beatles-didnt-do.html
it's a pretty good link specially for our current topic.
p.s. Campaign "On Topic For A Change"
gemjack
Not bad actually. John and Bob's back and forth over the years is
always fun to hear.
gemjack
wrote:
>On Mar 30, 11:18 pm, ermitano <maikelbur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> i would add this outtake:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBJyQQhHuck
>> it's almost the full Can You Take Me Back impro, but i don't think it
>> counts as an unreleased songs.
Sounds pretty complete.
>"Can You Take Me Back" is listed as a separate track on certain tape
>releases of the White Album (reel-to-reel, possibly 8-track, too). So
>technically it is indeed a released track and has been copyrighted
>separately.
With only a little effort, I bet they could have squeezed out a triple
album instead of the double. This is actually more enjoyable than
Wild Honey Pie.
Makes me wonder if the later-released Dig It has a more complete
recording.
JohnB
> On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 08:49:24 -0700 (PDT), Skokiaan <skoki...@aol.com>
More complete than what? There are various bootlegs out there of
varying lengths, 8 minutes+ being the longest (I think), and they show
that this was essentially just a bit of studio jamming.
Jales
> I'll Wait Till Tomorrow
aka If Tomorrow Ever Comes
> Because I Know I Love You So
aka Wake Up In The Morning
scouser
Actually, i thought "Tell me what has happened to you" quite tortured
and a study in the break up of a marriage and its consequent pain.
>
> There's even an apparent knock on Patti in Beautiful Girl. George says
> the girl of the title is "not the type you go handing around", which
> must be a reference to his ex wife off with Slow Hand.
i never thought this referred to Pattie at all as George was trying to
set Pattie up with Clapton in december 69 on the Delaney Bonnie tour
so that he could spend the night with her sister ... read Clapton's
book which came out the same time as Pattie's.
>
> In her recent book, Patti fills in the blanks that George came to the
> conclusion that he was an incarnation of Krishna and was entitled,
> therefore to a harem of women (just like Krishna is depicted in some
> Indian art). That's a self serving twist up there with Newt Gingrich's
> woody for Lady Liberty that lead him astray, and makes Lennon with
> Yoko almost seem old fashioned by comparison. At the time, listening
> to ATMP, and hearing about George, Patti and Eric, I assume Harrison
> was living a monastic ascetic existence and suffering the betrayal of
> his marriage.
George tried hard to live a monastic, ascetic existence - note words
of "Hear Me Lord"
but he veered between being celibate for 6 weeks and not - see
"Waiting for the Beatles" by Carol Bedford.
George never thought he was an incarnation of Krishna ( He thought
Christ was an incarnation of Krishna - Kristus from the Greek being
from the root word Krishna and hence Christus) - who had 10,000 wives
and apparently kept them all perfectly happy in every sense. i think
he just concluded if he could keep all the women in his life happy why
not. Don't take everything in Pattie's book too literally - she has a
completely different account of the night Clapton went off with her
sister Paula to Clapton's and she does get the date of George's
passing wrong too - to mention two inaccuracies. Good read in certain
respects as was Clapton's and Bedford's and the rest.
scouser
> The Top Ten Unreleased Beatles songs
>
> I thought ermitano’s recent post on new bootlegs was a good, (oddly
> “on-topic”) post. And with all the available resources on the
> internets, new people are finding this stuff all the time. So here’s a
> top ten list that is very much on-topic. I am not ranking these by my
> favorite, but trying to get to the mostly unheard Lennon, McCartney or
> Harrison compositions not yet officially released or available for
> purchase. I may have overlooked something, let me know if you think
> so.
>
> 1.) A Case of the Blues
> 2.) Sour Milk Sea
> 3.) Suicide
>
Pity Sour Milk Sea did not do well as George went to the trouble of
getting himself and Clapton to do the guitars and Ringo to do the
drums - can't remember who was on base. Jackie (who loves George
dearly) told me about it.
scouser
>
> - Show quoted text -
Cheers
scouser
> > On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 10:21:17 -0700 (PDT), John Doherty
>
> > This would have to be a short list. Could you even have a top 20?
> > Most stuff I've heard unreleased sounds too sub par to be enjoyed
> > regularly or was just a working version of an eventually finished
> > song, though I admit to not having heard all those mentioned.
>
> operate from the principle that I'd rather view Leonardo's discarded
> sketches than most finished work of artists working today.
>
> In that, some of these are fascinating. Sour Milk Sea is a nice piece
> of work, though it's a demo recorded at home. It makes me appreciate
> the way George's songs were not given equal reception. Circles is less
> radio friendly, but if you dig the George spiritual trip, it's a key
> step in the journey.
Quite correct. You can't separate George from his spiritual trip and
the people who like George's music dig that aspect of it.
>
> Suicide is available in several variations (during Beatles sessions
> and after), and true to Paul's musicianship, is one of the most
> finished song ideas on the list. The only version of "Gone
> Tomorrow..." I've heard unfortunately has chat in the foreground. It's
> still tantalizing for an unrealized McCartney song.
>
> Along those lines, and not on the list is "Heather", a likable bit
> o'fluff from Paul's session with Donovan. Not sure if it's improvised,
> but he does a little child's rhyme about his future step daughter.
> It's no "Eleanor Rigby", but I'd put it better than some published
> Paul stuff like "Wild Honey Pie", for instance (even if that's faint
> praise).
>
> And of course, there are plenty of alternates and a wealth of covers
> from the Get Back sessions, some of them big fun.
Jales
> Pity Sour Milk Sea did not do well as George went to the trouble of
> getting himself and Clapton to do the guitars and Ringo to do the
> drums - can't remember who was on base. Jackie (who loves George
> dearly) told me about it.
Paul was on bass
John Doherty
>
> > On Mar 31, 9:46 am, brilton <notl...@yacht.net> wrote:
> ...
> > >I always found this one - even just the song title - annoyingly
> > >didactic, and am glad that it never went any further. George would soon
> > >be constructing a conveyor-belt of preachy songs anyway.
>
> > > On 30/03/11 1:21 AM, John Doherty wrote:
> > Listening to the Harrison boot "Beware of Abkco", I was charmed by the
> > demo versions of songs I loved from ATMP, and in fact, could hear the
> > words so much better than in the Spector produced official release.
>
> > But hearing the culls he left behind was underwhelming. He got the
> > right advice to leave these off the album: "Beautiful Girl", "Tell Me
> > What Has Happened to You", etc. dreary, preachy crap from George.
>
On Apr 1, 11:33 am, scouser <denise.theophi...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Actually, i thought "Tell me what has happened to you" quite tortured
> and a study in the break up of a marriage and its consequent pain.
Perhaps, but it's equally tortured in its construction as a song. It's
everything wrong with Harrison's songwriting then: dreary, lacking in
musical content (just a scale really isn't it?) and goes nowhere
fast.
BTW, I think he made the right calls on most of ATMP, even down to the
two versions of "Isn't It a Pity". I'd make an exception for the side
of jamming, which apparently was inspired by the Grateful Dead via
Rock manager Scully's visit. It ended up demonstrating that not
everyone could jam like the Grateful Dead.
But there's no "aha!" moment in reviewing the songs cut from
Harrison's demo tape (unlike, say "Sour Milk Sea" from the Esher
demos): Mother Divine, Cosmic Empire & Window, Window. "I Don't Want
to Do It" , released 15 years later for the Porky's Revenge
soundtrack, is the best of the lot.
>
>
>
> > There's even an apparent knock on Patti in Beautiful Girl. George says
> > the girl of the title is "not the type you go handing around", which
> > must be a reference to his ex wife off with Slow Hand.
>
> i never thought this referred to Pattie at all as George was trying to
> set Pattie up with Clapton in december 69 on the Delaney Bonnie tour
> so that he could spend the night with her sister ... read Clapton's
> book which came out the same time as Pattie's.
The lyric is:
"Never seen such a beautiful girl, got me shaking inside
Callin' on me from deep within her eye
Not the kind you go handing around, wanna keep her right there..."
Hmmm, what girl might George have not wanted to keep right there? What
girl might he have "handed around"? ;-)
In the end, George chose not to air his dirty laundry in keeping this
song under wraps, so he did the right thing. Having the thought as an
artist is not horrible. Everyone going through divorce has animosity.
But hearing that lyric, you have to bend over backward not to see it
as a dig at Pattie Boyd.
>
>
>
> > In her recent book, Patti fills in the blanks that George came to the
> > conclusion that he was an incarnation of Krishna and was entitled,
> > therefore to a harem of women (just like Krishna is depicted in some
> > Indian art). That's a self serving twist up there with Newt Gingrich's
> > woody for Lady Liberty that lead him astray, and makes Lennon with
> > Yoko almost seem old fashioned by comparison. At the time, listening
> > to ATMP, and hearing about George, Patti and Eric, I assume Harrison
> > was living a monastic ascetic existence and suffering the betrayal of
> > his marriage.
>
> George tried hard to live a monastic, ascetic existence - note words
> of "Hear Me Lord"
> but he veered between being celibate for 6 weeks and not - see
> "Waiting for the Beatles" by Carol Bedford.
>
> George never thought he was an incarnation of Krishna ( He thought
> Christ was an incarnation of Krishna - Kristus from the Greek being
> from the root word Krishna and hence Christus) - who had 10,000 wives
> and apparently kept them all perfectly happy in every sense. i think
> he just concluded if he could keep all the women in his life happy why
> not.
This sounds like you buy into that rationalization, even if you
dispute her story about his own personal Krishna , er, consciousness,
which in this manifestation is a rationalization for his sexual
appetite.
> Don't take everything in Pattie's book too literally - she has a
> completely different account of the night Clapton went off with her
> sister Paula to Clapton's and she does get the date of George's
> passing wrong too - to mention two inaccuracies. Good read in certain
> respects as was Clapton's and Bedford's and the rest.
Everyone's memory & story is subjective, but Pattie Boyd was the only
other person in that marriage, and it was illuminating to hear her
take on these events.
scouser
> > On Mar 31, 2:25 pm, John Doherty <j...@johndoherty.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 31, 9:46 am, brilton <notl...@yacht.net> wrote:
> > ...
> > > >I always found this one - even just the song title - annoyingly
> > > >didactic, and am glad that it never went any further. George would soon
> > > >be constructing a conveyor-belt of preachy songs anyway.
>
> > > > On 30/03/11 1:21 AM, John Doherty wrote:
> > > Listening to the Harrison boot "Beware of Abkco", I was charmed by the
> > > demo versions of songs I loved from ATMP, and in fact, could hear the
> > > words so much better than in the Spector produced official release.
>
> > > But hearing the culls he left behind was underwhelming. He got the
> > > right advice to leave these off the album: "Beautiful Girl", "Tell Me
> > > What Has Happened to You", etc. dreary, preachy crap from George.
>
> On Apr 1, 11:33 am, scouser <denise.theophi...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Actually, i thought "Tell me what has happened to you" quite tortured
> > and a study in the break up of a marriage and its consequent pain.
>
> Perhaps, but it's equally tortured in its construction as a song. It's
> everything wrong with Harrison's songwriting then: dreary, lacking in
> musical content (just a scale really isn't it?) and goes nowhere
> fast.
Interesting to think you consider yourself worthy of criticising
George's songwriting?
>
> BTW, I think he made the right calls on most of ATMP, even down to the
> two versions of "Isn't It a Pity". I'd make an exception for the side
> of jamming, which apparently was inspired by the Grateful Dead via
> Rock manager Scully's visit. It ended up demonstrating that not
> everyone could jam like the Grateful Dead.
>
> But there's no "aha!" moment in reviewing the songs cut from
> Harrison's demo tape (unlike, say "Sour Milk Sea" from the Esher
> demos): Mother Divine, Cosmic Empire & Window, Window. "I Don't Want
> to Do It" , released 15 years later for the Porky's Revenge
> soundtrack, is the best of the lot.
>
>
>
> > > There's even an apparent knock on Patti in Beautiful Girl. George says
> > > the girl of the title is "not the type you go handing around", which
> > > must be a reference to his ex wife off with Slow Hand.
>
> > i never thought this referred to Pattie at all as George was trying to
> > set Pattie up with Clapton in december 69 on the Delaney Bonnie tour
> > so that he could spend the night with her sister ... read Clapton's
> > book which came out the same time as Pattie's.
>
> The lyric is:
> "Never seen such a beautiful girl, got me shaking inside
> Callin' on me from deep within her eye
> Not the kind you go handing around, wanna keep her right there..."
Cheers - i know the lyrics - how can you say this is a knock at
anyone. Its telling how much he feels about a girl, not how little.
>
> Hmmm, what girl might George have not wanted to keep right there? What
> girl might he have "handed around"? ;-)
>
> In the end, George chose not to air his dirty laundry in keeping this
> song under wraps, so he did the right thing. Having the thought as an
> artist is not horrible. Everyone going through divorce has animosity.
>
> But hearing that lyric, you have to bend over backward not to see it
> as a dig at Pattie Boyd.
>
Cant see it and i am sitting upright. They were not going through a
divorce at that point. Pattie did not leave till 1974 and they
divorced in 77 i think.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > > In her recent book, Patti fills in the blanks that George came to the
> > > conclusion that he was an incarnation of Krishna and was entitled,
> > > therefore to a harem of women (just like Krishna is depicted in some
> > > Indian art). That's a self serving twist up there with Newt Gingrich's
> > > woody for Lady Liberty that lead him astray, and makes Lennon with
> > > Yoko almost seem old fashioned by comparison. At the time, listening
> > > to ATMP, and hearing about George, Patti and Eric, I assume Harrison
> > > was living a monastic ascetic existence and suffering the betrayal of
> > > his marriage.
>
> > George tried hard to live a monastic, ascetic existence - note words
> > of "Hear Me Lord"
> > but he veered between being celibate for 6 weeks and not - see
> > "Waiting for the Beatles" by Carol Bedford.
>
> > George never thought he was an incarnation of Krishna ( He thought
> > Christ was an incarnation of Krishna - Kristus from the Greek being
> > from the root word Krishna and hence Christus) - who had 10,000 wives
> > and apparently kept them all perfectly happy in every sense. i think
> > he just concluded if he could keep all the women in his life happy why
> > not.
>
> This sounds like you buy into that rationalization, even if you
> dispute her story about his own personal Krishna , er, consciousness,
> which in this manifestation is a rationalization for his sexual
> appetite.
No - i don't buy into it, i would have been most distressed if i was
in Pattie's position.
>
> > Don't take everything in Pattie's book too literally - she has a
> > completely different account of the night Clapton went off with her
> > sister Paula to Clapton's and she does get the date of George's
> > passing wrong too - to mention two inaccuracies. Good read in certain
> > respects as was Clapton's and Bedford's and the rest.
>
> Everyone's memory & story is subjective, but Pattie Boyd was the only
> other person in that marriage, and it was illuminating to hear her
> take on these events.
i thought more of her before she aired her dirty laundry to use your
phrase.
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>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
scouser
Cheers. Did you know Billy Preston played the organ on the Radha
Krishna Temple album- i only found that out the other day. i always
admired the power in it.
gemjack
<john...@tinyworld.co.uk> wrote:
>On Apr 1, 1:45 pm, gemjack <geminijackso...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 08:49:24 -0700 (PDT), Skokiaan <skoki...@aol.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Mar 30, 11:18 pm, ermitano <maikelbur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> i would add this outtake:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBJyQQhHuck
>> >> it's almost the full Can You Take Me Back impro, but i don't think it
>> >> counts as an unreleased songs.
>>
>> Sounds pretty complete.
>>
>> >"Can You Take Me Back" is listed as a separate track on certain tape
>> >releases of the White Album (reel-to-reel, possibly 8-track, too). So
>> >technically it is indeed a released track and has been copyrighted
>> >separately.
>>
>> With only a little effort, I bet they could have squeezed out a triple
>> album instead of the double. This is actually more enjoyable than
>> Wild Honey Pie.
>>
>> Makes me wonder if the later-released Dig It has a more complete
>> recording.
>
>More complete than what?
The one on LIB of course.
>There are various bootlegs out there of
>varying lengths, 8 minutes+ being the longest (I think), and they show
>that this was essentially just a bit of studio jamming.
I assumed as much (studio jamming). I like it that they took the
(supposed) best part from loose jams and made them the front or
back-ends of more solid songs. With few exceptions, there's little
unreleased Beatle material I've heard that's worth hearing twice. I'd
rather hear JG over Child of nature, etc. But an 8 minute jam of Dig
It is worth a listen. They hit some awesome grooves on their last 2
albums.
John Doherty
> > On Apr 1, 11:33 am, scouser <denise.theophi...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > Actually, i thought "Tell me what has happened to you" quite tortured
> > > and a study in the break up of a marriage and its consequent pain.
>
> On Apr 1, 4:36 pm, John Doherty <j...@johndoherty.com> wrote:
> > Perhaps, but it's equally tortured in its construction as a song. It's
> > everything wrong with Harrison's songwriting then: dreary, lacking in
> > musical content (just a scale really isn't it?) and goes nowhere
> > fast.
>
On Apr 1, 2:18 pm, scouser <denise.theophi...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Interesting to think you worthy of criticising
> George's songwriting?
You don't?
That's logically absurd. I don't have to be a master chef to know if a
steak is cooked correctly.
And the fact that I am a fan of much of George Harrison's work does
not mean I have to accept every half written song as gold, exempt from
critical appraisal. Is that how you think?!
Do you think Lennon's song "New York City" is as good as "Strawberry
Fields Forever"? If not, what makes you consider yourself worthy of
criticizing his songwriting?
scouser
> > > On Apr 1, 11:33 am, scouser <denise.theophi...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > > Actually, i thought "Tell me what has happened to you" quite tortured
> > > > and a study in the break up of a marriage and its consequent pain.
>
> > On Apr 1, 4:36 pm, John Doherty <j...@johndoherty.com> wrote:
> > > Perhaps, but it's equally tortured in its construction as a song. It's
> > > everything wrong with Harrison's songwriting then: dreary, lacking in
> > > musical content (just a scale really isn't it?) and goes nowhere
> > > fast.
>
> On Apr 1, 2:18 pm, scouser <denise.theophi...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Interesting to think you worthy of criticising
> > George's songwriting?
>
> You don't?
You're right. Any of us can criticise anything at all even if we are
not capable of coming up with anything anywhere near as good as that
which we are criticising. However, i do not happen to agree with your
criticism of "Tell me what has happened to you". In answer to your
last question if i do not like something i simply do not listen to it
again. If however i was ordering a steak (which i would not) i would
ask for it to be rare, medium rare or well done (or elaborate further
on it if it was terribly important to me that it ooze or not ooze
blood) and would expect it to arrive cooked as such. Hardly the same
as discussing a piece of music in my opinion.
brilton
> On Apr 1, 7:57 pm, John Doherty<j...@johndoherty.com> wrote:
>>>> On Apr 1, 11:33 am, scouser<denise.theophi...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Actually, i thought "Tell me what has happened to you" quite tortured
>>>>> and a study in the break up of a marriage and its consequent pain.
>>
>>> On Apr 1, 4:36 pm, John Doherty<j...@johndoherty.com> wrote:
>>>> Perhaps, but it's equally tortured in its construction as a song. It's
>>>> everything wrong with Harrison's songwriting then: dreary, lacking in
>>>> musical content (just a scale really isn't it?) and goes nowhere
>>>> fast.
>>
>> On Apr 1, 2:18 pm, scouser<denise.theophi...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Interesting to think you worthy of criticising
>>> George's songwriting?
"Worthy"? WTF?
>>
>> You don't?
>
> You're right. Any of us can criticise anything at all even if we are
> not capable of coming up with anything anywhere near as good as that
> which we are criticising.
Oh dear, Scouzie, but the way you're saying that, you're really implying
the opposite here. "Anything near as good as"... "Tell Me What Has
Happened To You"? That's really not too difficult, for a "song" that is
basically one big diminished chord with a standard C-Am-F-G chorus
chucked in.
The thing is, Harrison wrote a lot of good songs, but he also wrote some
pretty dire ones. Luckily, a lot of them never made it past the
demo/idea stage (eg: "How Do You Tell Someone"). As Beatles fans, we are
not obliged to love every single chordal strum that each member of the
band performed, jointly or separately.
However, i do not happen to agree with your
> criticism of "Tell me what has happened to you". In answer to your
> last question if i do not like something i simply do not listen to it
> again. If however i was ordering a steak (which i would not) i would
> ask for it to be rare, medium rare or well done (or elaborate further
> on it if it was terribly important to me that it ooze or not ooze
> blood) and would expect it to arrive cooked as such. Hardly the same
> as discussing a piece of music in my opinion.
>>
>> That's logically absurd. I don't have to be a master chef to know if a
>> steak is cooked correctly.
>>
>> And the fact that I am a fan of much of George Harrison's work does
>> not mean I have to accept every half written song as gold, exempt from
>> critical appraisal. Is that how you think?!
Well said, previous poster.
>>
>> Do you think Lennon's song "New York City" is as good as "Strawberry
>> Fields Forever"? If not, what makes you consider yourself worthy of
>> criticizing his songwriting?
Ugh. Just remembered the song "Shanghai Surprise".
scouser
>
> - Show quoted text -
Oh dear Brillie not you again WTF! Always ready for a punch up - ta
for your penny's worth.
Waiting with bated breath to hear your piece "that is (not) basically
one big diminished chord with a standard C-Am-F-G chorus chucked in".
scouzie
brilton
>
> Oh dear Brillie not you again WTF! Always ready for a punch up - ta
> for your penny's worth.
> Waiting with bated breath to hear your piece "that is (not) basically
> one big diminished chord with a standard C-Am-F-G chorus chucked in".
> scouzie
Nice non-answer.
John Doherty
On Apr 2, 9:42 am, scouser <denise.theophi...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Oh dear Brillie not you again WTF! Always ready for a punch up - ta
> for your penny's worth.
> Waiting with bated breath to hear your piece "that is (not) basically
> one big diminished chord with a standard C-Am-F-G chorus chucked in".
> scouzie
I guess, scouser, one might urge you to
Get out of that sour milk sea
You don't belong there
Get back to where you should be
Find out what's going on there
;-)