Looks like Ringo turned out to be the 'smart' Beatle. He has the most
beautiful wife, he's still alive, his name isn't being drug through the
mud, and he doesn't waste money on lawyers.
The Dumb Beatle
All my money could fill the Titanic
But 'pre-nupts' are just so unromantic
But I sang the wrong note
And she capsized my boat
Now my lawyers are drowning in panic
--
Have you noticed: Paul isn't so cute anymore.
He should give his "Sir" to Ringo.
>Paul was the cute Beatle; John was the smart Beatle; George was the
>humble Beatle; and Ringo was the dumb (silliest) Beatle.
>
>Looks like Ringo turned out to be the 'smart' Beatle. He has the most
>beautiful wife, he's still alive, his name isn't being drug through the
>mud, and he doesn't waste money on lawyers.
>
>
> The Dumb Beatle
>
>All my money could fill the Titanic
>But 'pre-nupts' are just so unromantic
>But I sang the wrong note
>And she capsized my boat
>Now my lawyers are drowning in panic
If Ringo's so damned smart, how come my passbook savings account is
worth more than his song publishing catalog?
I never thought of him as the dumb Beatle. I always thought of him as
the down to earth Beatle.
Einstein's song catalog is pretty meager also.
dmh
I never thought of him as dumb either. Maybe the "un-cute Beatle" but
dumb - nope. In interviews opf the time, he always had a nice bit of
humor to reveal, and humor usually indicates some degree of
intelligence. All the Boys could be humorous in their way; Paul glibly,
John abrasively, Ringo "earthily" and George morosely. I never thuoght
any of them were dumb.
dmh
I am kind of sad that he is now just this tycoon who changes cities and
addresses like a tee shirt. He is surrounded with as many yes men as
Elvis was, and is like some kind of shiek. I think that through this,
he has lost a lot of his footing on solid ground. Having so much to
choose from makes one indecisive, or shallow with everything.
His rendition of Beatle songs has a shallow feel to it.
There is a lot to say about the richness of the common man. Ringo's
roots are in that common man.
voice from the past
I never regarded Ringo as "dumb" or as "un-cute." I think Ringo was
extremely cute and had a wonderful, charasmatic personality. He's also
the only Beatle that could act.
Umm....Einstein wasn't a singer/musician/wannabe composer
Ever find yourself humming Ringo's songs on his "Bad Boy" LP
I remember that at one time it was fashionable to compare The Beatles
to elements.
Ringo was earth. George was water. John was fire. And Paul was
gas...whoops, I'm sorry...Paul was air.
I always liked Ringo and enjoyed his part in "A Hard Day's Night" very
much. He was the steady beat who kept the group grounded.
I think history is painting him differently than he was in the sixties.
I knew many girls who thought Ringo was the cutest Beatle and loved it
when he'd shake his hair and grin. Some of the songs he sang are still
among the most popular -- Yellow Submarine and A Little Help from My
Friends.
I know very little about drumming, but I think it was John who said
Ringo has the best back beat of any drummer he knows. I don't know what
a back beat is, but it sounds steady. :)
Angie
No other drummer could have compliemented The Beatles's music and
temperment better than Ringo.
When The Beatles became popular in the US in early 1964, Ringo and Paul
were The Beatles that most girls screamed over. Supposedly, Ringo had
that lost, lonely, vulnerable look in his eyes that made young girls go
crazy.
Years later we found it that he had an astigmatism.
>
> I know very little about drumming, but I think it was John who said
> Ringo has the best back beat of any drummer he knows. I don't know what
> a back beat is, but it sounds steady. :)
>
> Angie
>
A backbeat sounds on the 2nd and 4th beat in a 4/4 measure.
That's the way it was explained to me anyway. I poked around with a drum
machine one day
and programmed in a "backbeat" as defined above. Pretty powerful.
Really? Wow! And who says you can't learn anything from newsgroups?
Well...Einstein played the violin.
But the point of my humorous comment arises from the fact that you're
the one who makes a connection between an assessment of Ringo's
intellect and the size of his song list. Not me... you.
>
> Ever find yourself humming Ringo's songs on his "Bad Boy" LP
No, and I don't hum many of the songs that john wrote after he left the
Beatles either. So? Only a very small percentage of music (good and bad)
is destined to become easily hummable. Is Ringo a great (or even a
particularly good) songwriter? Obviously not, and I think he knows it.
He's a performer. But this has nothing to do with an evaluation of his
intelligence, as you suggest.
dmh
George must have hung around John too much, because that fire seemed to
have gotten extinguished for the most part.
dmh
Angie...@hotmail.com wrote:
> uly...@mscomm.com wrote:
>
>>One of the things I disliked about the Emerick book was that he made
>>Ringo out to be fairtly stupid, I guess because he read comic books.
>>
>>I never regarded Ringo as "dumb" or as "un-cute." I think Ringo was
>>extremely cute and had a wonderful, charasmatic personality. He's also
>>the only Beatle that could act.
>
>
> I always liked Ringo and enjoyed his part in "A Hard Day's Night" very
> much. He was the steady beat who kept the group grounded.
>
> I think history is painting him differently than he was in the sixties.
> I knew many girls who thought Ringo was the cutest Beatle and loved it
> when he'd shake his hair and grin. Some of the songs he sang are still
> among the most popular -- Yellow Submarine and A Little Help from My
> Friends.
Not to put too fine a point on this, but I suspect much of the "cute"
Ringo projected for girls was along the lines of maternal instinct,
loving the runt of the litter and all. He seemed relatively
non-threatening (Paul too slick, John liable to blow up, and George
sitting in a corner moping). I'm not sure how many guys saw him that
way. They looked to me to be one shining machine of musical joy, and I
didn't care much about whether they were good-looking or not. But appeal
is appeal.
dmh
I find myself humming "The Real Slim Shady" quite a bit. A real hummer.
Astrologically speaking, Ringo and George are water, and John and Paul
are air.
Hey David, you should leave the poetry for your "DCDave" alias, or use it to
add some depth to the "Salvador Astucia" sock. :D
Read David Sharp's bongblaster posts and connect the dots:
http://tinyurl.com/y6ow98
The David Sharp FAQ: http://home.nyc.rr.com/whammo/
--
Eric B.
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
(Edmund Burke)
>>
> Well, I thought of Ringo as a homely looking guy. When they showed up on
> Ed Sullivan, my sisters would get all giddy and laugh and point and go
> literally nuts when the cameras fell on Ringo. Their reaction really
> took me off guard - I'd never seen them act that way before. AHDN made
> me understand a bit more what that was all about.
Yes, his famous nude scene.
>
>
--
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> I always liked Ringo and enjoyed his part in "A Hard Day's Night" very
> much. He was the steady beat who kept the group grounded.
> I think history is painting him differently than he was in the sixties.
> I knew many girls who thought Ringo was the cutest Beatle and loved it
> when he'd shake his hair and grin.
When I was a little kid, so little that I didn't even know anything
about the Beatles, Ringo was the first one whose name and face I ever
started to recognise.
'Course, John's my favourite now, followed by George, but that must mean
*something*. ('Course, maybe it only means that I'd met people named
John, Paul, and George before, but never a Ringo. ;P)
--
--Sean
http://spclsd223.livejournal.com/
'Starving babies is bad, and illegal in many cultures.' --Dr Gregory House
Exactly. I didn't know my sisters had reached that level of their growth.
After that, whenever they had their girlfriends over I'd prance around naked
singing "I Wanna Be Your Man"
Did that work? I gotta try it.
Thank you. That makes sense.
Angie
But then, all the girls with dirty minds knew who I was. So, I had some
fun.
Ringo is simply a nice guy. Intelligent but non educated. Let's not forget,
one of the greatest drummers ever. A simply brilliant drummer.
> I never thought of him as the dumb Beatle. I always thought of him as the down to earth Beatle.
I've heard people call Ringo "the Nice Beatle" because of his ability
to get along with everybody even under difficult circumstances.
However, I've heard that he's the least nicest to fans and reporters
who approach him.
Isn't there a Lennon quote(not sure if it was in 1980 or earlier) in
which he says (paraphrasing here), "People say Ringo is dumb, he ain't
dumb, he's smarter than all of us."
I got that feeling with him. After one of his concerts, we waited by
the door with a few others. Before he came out, this enormous, mean
looking guy pushed everyone back so that he could quickly get through
and into his waiting limo. He didn't even acknowledge us. I only got a
photo of him whizzing by.
- Donna
A photo of Ringo whizzing?
Now, there's a collector's item.
That insult to Patti will not stand.
I will have satisfaction of you in Hyde Park at dawn.
Maybe he's afraid of getting attacked. See "Lennon, John" and "Harrison,
George." People get searched before they get in to the shows, but who
knows who is standing around outside? If I put myself in his shoes, I
might not want to stop and chat either, in a place where everybody knows
I'm going to be at a certain time.
I understand. Still, a wave would have been nice.
I thought George was the quiet Beatle.
-H
...and I'm artichoke hearts on a square of rye bread.
dmh
I don't know about all that, but I do know that I was the "least famous
Beatle". There is precisely no sex or money to go with that title, but I
did manage to marry a woman who was voted the "girl least likely to
become a member of Bananarama". Admittedly this is on the periphery of
musical history, but I fully expect to be voted into the "Rock and Roll
Hall of Irrelevant Personalities" by the year 2013, a year after the
"sixth Dave Clark Five" and a year before Rick Springfield.
dmh
It could be too that he's just sick of having to put up the same old crap
from fans.
How long could anyone put up with that routine?
>Paul was the cute Beatle; John was the smart Beatle; George was the
>humble Beatle; and Ringo was the dumb (silliest) Beatle.
>
>Looks like Ringo turned out to be the 'smart' Beatle. He has the most
>beautiful wife, he's still alive, his name isn't being drug through the
>mud, and he doesn't waste money on lawyers.
>
>
> The Dumb Beatle
>
>All my money could fill the Titanic
>But 'pre-nupts' are just so unromantic
>But I sang the wrong note
>And she capsized my boat
>Now my lawyers are drowning in panic
I always think Ringo was the LUCKY Beatle.
NO offense, I love what he did as the Beatles' drummer.
But really, any competent drummer could have done the job.
I'm glad it turned out to be Ringo.
But he was damned lucky and I think he knows that!
DanKaye wrote:
>
>
> I always think Ringo was the LUCKY Beatle.
>
> NO offense, I love what he did as the Beatles' drummer.
> But really, any competent drummer could have done the job.
> I'm glad it turned out to be Ringo.
> But he was damned lucky and I think he knows that!
There were (and are) better drummers than Ringo no doubt, but it wasn't
merely luck that got him the gig. Ringo was considered the best drummer
in Liverpool at the time, and had been working professionally for some
time already. So he was another Liverpool boy and highly thought of in
that crowd: it was probably a combination of name recognition and home
town pride that got him the position. For my money, the Beatles were
lucky to get him. He proved to be the perfect drummer for their music,
able to provide good, solid, and often inventive beats for a variety of
musical styles, all without undue flash or ego. For my money, he proved
particularly adept at drumming for psychedelic songs, with a nice
"drifting" ease that I hear still in similar songs today.
dmh
> I understand. Still, a wave would have been nice.
I'll start. Come on everybody!
> One of the things I disliked about the Emerick book was that he made
> Ringo out to be fairtly stupid, I guess because he read comic books.
Well, he was the drummer!
Even Ringo himself said that he learned to play chess during the making
of Sgt. pepper.
> A backbeat sounds on the 2nd and 4th beat in a 4/4 measure.
>
> That's the way it was explained to me anyway. I poked around with a drum
> machine one day
> and programmed in a "backbeat" as defined above. Pretty powerful.
That is some wild stuff.
For the other side of that coin, see Tom Dowd's discussion of Cream on
his bio DVD.
> There were (and are) better drummers than Ringo no doubt,
Mitch Mitchell and Keith Moon would be two of my votes.
Of course, neither of them would have worked as the Beatles' drummer.
Ringo may not be my favourite drummer, but he was the perfect drummer
for the band.
> Isn't there a Lennon quote(not sure if it was in 1980 or earlier) in
> which he says (paraphrasing here), "People say Ringo is dumb, he ain't
> dumb, he's smarter than all of us."
Well, it wasn't later, unfortunately.
= Judy =
= Judy =
Let's see ... the birthdates are:
John - 9th October
Paul - 18th June
George - 24th February
Ringo - 7th July
That would make John a Libra, Paul a Gemini, George a Pisces, and Ringo
a Cancer.
You really think I'm going to buy Tom Dowd's DVD just to see what he says
about a backbeat? If you can't summarize his discussion here then you
should consider it a dead issue.
It was more than drumming though, it was recognizing his place; which
another drummer might not have been able to do. But also Ringo made a good
personality fit. I think the other three chose him on that as much as his
drumming.
> Dale Houstman wrote:
>
> > There were (and are) better drummers than Ringo no doubt,
>
> Mitch Mitchell and Keith Moon would be two of my votes.
>
> Of course, neither of them would have worked as the Beatles' drummer.
> Ringo may not be my favourite drummer, but he was the perfect drummer
> for the band.
They were more of the "if it's within arms length - hit it" school of
drumming. Better? With KM, Maybe - maybe not. But MM was never able to
drive a song the way Ringo could.
As always - Just MHO
--
Cheers
Charlie
Feel free to make fun of my music here:
I have, on occasion, hummed "Photograph", "Oh My My" (I think that was
the title), and "You're Sixteen", all off that Ringo album that my
older sister's friend gave me her copy of back in about 79. The album
had some fun artwork in the lyric book that came with it. I wonder if
I still have it somewhere? Might have to take a look and walk down
memory lane after work today.
Mike
Okay...astrology is crap.
dmh
After the egoism of Best (and didn't the band have enough solid gold
egos as it were), I imagine there is some truth to what you say.
But I also imagine I am Nada the Lily Queen from time to time, so don't
go by me...
dmh
Mike wrote:
> Sadie Hussein wrote:
>
>>
>>Ever find yourself humming Ringo's songs on his "Bad Boy" LP
>
>
> I have, on occasion, hummed "Photograph", "Oh My My" (I think that was
> the title), and "You're Sixteen", all off that Ringo album that my
> older sister's friend gave me her copy of back in about 79. The album
> had some fun artwork in the lyric book that came with it. I wonder if
> I still have it somewhere? Might have to take a look and walk down
> memory lane after work today.
>
They are both highly hummable tunes, but I think the emphasis here is on
songs Ringo composed himself.
And if you do walk down memory lane, look out for flaming cow pies on
the old dirt road.
How much DOES a blue jay weigh?
dmh
In that case, we hope you took a good astrology this morning.
Thank your lucky stars that you know that.
LOL ! ! !
It was full of stars and kept telling me that today was going to be a
good day to pay attention to my feelings. Also, my lucky color is brown.
dmh
I did thakn them, but they (as usual) were surly, and refused to
acknowledge my presence. Seems they're too busy generating heat and
light for millions of dead planets to pay attention to my little
problems. BaSTARdS...
dmh
Full of stars? Did you eat pastina? :>
>
> John - 9th October
>
> That would make John a Libra,
And he he lived to a ripe old age he would have been a Librarian.
>>Mitch Mitchell and Keith Moon would be two of my votes.
> They were more of the "if it's within arms length - hit it" school of
> drumming. Better? With KM, Maybe - maybe not. But MM was never able to
> drive a song the way Ringo could.
> As always - Just MHO
I disagree. Mitchell is my favourite drummer.
Listen to 'Manic Depression' and tell me he ain't 'driving' that song. ;)
JMO, too.
> You really think I'm going to buy Tom Dowd's DVD just to see what he says
> about a backbeat? If you can't summarize his discussion here then you
> should consider it a dead issue.
Humph!
Your loss.
Well..maybe it was just corn.
Talk about the Big Bang...
> Full of stars? Did you eat pastina? :>
Paisan?
Ouch.
I also think he is genuinely nice.
I think "dumb" is an unfair portrayal. At worse, one could say Ringo
has little formal education.
Cumpari?
Even on the Beatles cartoon series, they made him out to be a complete
idiot. I wonder how he felt about that.
He said "Oh, I see you made me the dumb one again." He didn't like it at
all.
--
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Actually, Senora, I prefer acini di pepe.
Strega!
Mangia!
Vino?
Spaghetti-os?
uh-oh
A little flour and a pinch of salt....you've got the makings of a good
loaf
Add some food coloring and we have Playdough.
Speaking of dough...............oh never mind
>On 30 Oct 2006 06:57:36 -0800, "Bongblaster"
><bongb...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
>
>
>If Ringo's so damned smart, how come my passbook savings account is
>worth more than his song publishing catalog?
Ringo doesn't give a flying fook about your opinion. I promise.
I thought the Emerick book was unkind to George too.
I think it should also be noted that Ringo has an easy going
personality; he was able to get along with all of the other Beatles
even when things were going bad.
>When The Beatles became popular in the US in early 1964, Ringo and Paul
>were The Beatles that most girls screamed over. Supposedly, Ringo had
>that lost, lonely, vulnerable look in his eyes that made young girls go
>crazy.
I liked him because he had a voice that showed than "anyone" can sing.
"Honey Don't" was my favorite track on "Beatles '65"
Bernie Woodham wrote:
"After that, whenever they had their girlfriends over I'd prance around
naked singing 'I Wanna Be Your Man' "
1. A talented, highly skilled drummer
2. Mostly easy to get along with ...if you're one of the other Beatles
3. Down to earth & for the most part in touch with reality
4. Possessing a naturally creative mind (note he was credited with song
inspiring "Ringo-isms" by John. Interesting that it was the song
writers around him that realized his Ringo-isms could help make
commercial records.
I saw Ringo with his All-Starr Band at Canada's Casino Rama. I think it
was the 2004 band and included Paul Carrack (Mike & The Mechanics, Ace,
etc.), John Waite (Babys) and Colin Hay (Men At Work) as well as other
very impressive musicians. It was a great show with Ringo and the gang
singing their hits. I did find a couple of things odd though. Ringo
asked the audience what his name was a number of times, and seemed to
find great amusement when he got his name shouted back to him. Quite
odd I thought. It also seemed very out-of-time that he would raise both
arms and kept flashing the old "peace" V-fingers sign. We certainly got
good value for our entrance tickets that evening as Ringo and his ASB
were in excellent musical form and put on a memorable show for us all.
politics, and complained that people do not take to the streets to
protest any more.
Sir Elton said: "I think religion has always tried to turn hatred
towards gay people. Religion promotes the hatred and spite against
gays.
"But there are so many people I know who are gay and love their
religion. From my point of view I would ban religion completely.
"Organised religion doesn't seem to work. It turns people into really
hateful lemmings and it's not really compassionate."
He added: "The world is near escalating to World War Three and where
are
the leaders of each religion? Why aren't they having a conclave? Why
aren't they coming together?
"I said this after 9/11 and people thought I was nuts. Instead of more
violence why isn't there a meeting of religious leaders?
"It's like the peace movement in the Sixties. Musicians got through to
people by getting out there and doing peace concerts but we don't seem
to do them any more.
"If John Lennon were alive today he'd be leading it with a vengeance,"
he said.
Sir Elton said people were too busy blogging on the internet to go out
onto the streets to stand up for what they believed in.
"They seem to do their protesting online and that's not good enough.
You
have to get out there and be seen to be vocal, and you've got to do it
time and time again.
"There was a big march in London when Britain decided to join the war
against Iraq and Tony Blair is on the record as saying 'the people who
march today will have blood on their hands'. That's returned to bite
him
on the ass," he said.
Sir Elton compared his place in British culture with that of the Queen
Mother's.
He said: "People come to me and I'm a bit like the Queen Mother. I
never
get those problems. I don't know what it is with me, people treat me
very reverently.
Referring to his "wedding" to long-term partner David Furnish, he said:
"It was the same when Dave and I had our civil union - I was expecting
the odd flour bomb and there wasn't.
"Dave and I as a couple seem to be the acceptable face of gayness, and
that's great."
He pledged to continue to campaign for gay rights saying: "I'm going to
fight for them whether I do it silently behind the scenes or so vocally
that I get locked up.
"I can't just sit back; it's not in my nature any more. I'm nearly
60-years-old after all. I can't sit back and blindly ignore it and I
won't."
He's the only one w/ a wife!
>, he's still alive,
It wasn't John's fault.
Thursday , November 16, 2006
SAN FRANCISCO - The city closed its Aquatic Park Lagoon to swimmers
on Wednesday after a California sea lion bit at least 14 people and
chased 10 others out of the water this week.
No one serious injuries were reported. City health officials aren't
recommending rabies shots, but victims were advised by the Marine
Mammal Center to take antibiotics to ward off infection.
Experts say the rogue sea lion could be protecting his harem of mates
or might have brain damage from toxic algae.
Celeste McMullin, who was bitten Monday, said she saw the animal
lurking nearby before her swim but didn't think much of it.
"I was swimming along, and I felt a brush under my feet. And I thought,
'These feel like whiskers.' So I stopped, and the animal popped up.
He/she looked at me."
McMullin then tried to swim away, but the sea lion followed, biting and
bumping her continuously until she made it back to shore. She ended up
with six bites: two puncture wounds and four cuts.
Marine Mammal Center veterinarian Frances Gulland said the animal may
soon leave the area and advised swimmers to avoid the lagoon in the
meantime.
"The migration has started, and the animals are moving north to
Washington state and Oregon," she said.