Day Tripper and I Feel Fine: Whose riffs?
John T Robicheau
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>Whose ideas were the guitar riffs on Day Tripper and on I Feel Fine? Who
>actually plays them?
>
>Thanks
>
>Gianni
Lennon & Harrison both solo on Day Tripper
& Lennon & Harrison both share lead & rhythm on IFF as well..
--
John T. Robicheau JTR...@pitt.edu
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the sound you make is muzak to my ears..john lennon
Mark Garvin
>Gianni Maresia <gmar...@paju.oulu.fi> wrote:
>>
>>Whose ideas were the guitar riffs on Day Tripper and on I Feel Fine? Who
>>actually plays them?
>>
>>Thanks
>>Gianni
>Lennon & Harrison both solo on Day Tripper
>& Lennon & Harrison both share lead & rhythm on IFF as well..
Corrections welcome, but I'm under the impression from what I've
read (George Martin's books and elsewhere) that:
I Feel Fine is a Lennon lick
Day Tripper is a McCartney lick (? some question about this)
How about Paperback Writer? Paul as well?
MG
Jon M. Roe
Both John and George are seen playing the I Feel Fine riff
at different times during live shows. I don't know which or
if both played for the released record.
I would seriously doubt that Paul played the Day Tripper
riff for the record. I have never heard this, it sounds
like George's playing, it doesn't sound like Paul's playing.
And, don't forget, an important part of the Day Tripper riff
is Paul's doubling of it on the bass at very times.
Again, I've never heard any evidence of Paul playing
the Paperback Writer riff.
Jon
Mark Garvin
>Mark Garvin wrote:
>> Corrections welcome, but I'm under the impression from what I've
>> read (George Martin's books and elsewhere) that:
>>
>> I Feel Fine is a Lennon lick
>> Day Tripper is a McCartney lick (? some question about this)
>>
>> How about Paperback Writer? Paul as well?
>Both John and George are seen playing the I Feel Fine riff
>at different times during live shows. I don't know which or
>if both played for the released record.
Hi Jon, I was more interested in who wrote the lines, rather
than who played them. Very unusual guitar lines...all three
of 'em. I don't have Lewisohn's book, so I don't know if this
is covered.
Mark G.
joe_larose
Sorry for not quoting--my newsreader won't let me quote text. I'm
replying to the discussion about who plays the lead guitar parts
on "Day Tripper." I hear the opening lead guitar riff double-tracked
(probably played by George each time), followed by the riff
doubled by Paul on bass, then John coming in on chording (rhythm)
guitar. That George is doubling his own lead guitar part seems
evident when listening to the bootleg instrumental-tracks only
version of the song. On the first (live) take, there is only a
single guitar playing the opening riff. When you hear the take
onto which they finally put the voices, there are noticeably
"two" guitars playing the opening riff.
Joe LaRose
Jeff Carty
>In <31618...@smtpgate.ssmc.noaa.gov> "Jon M. Roe" <jr...@smtpgate.ssmc.noaa.gov> writes:
>
>>Mark Garvin wrote:
>>> Corrections welcome, but I'm under the impression from what I've
>>> read (George Martin's books and elsewhere) that:
>>>
>>> I Feel Fine is a Lennon lick
>>> Day Tripper is a McCartney lick (? some question about this)
>>>
>>> How about Paperback Writer? Paul as well?
I think Day Tripper is usually credited to John, riff and all. I'd
expect Paul to have helped him (giving some lyrics and arrangement
ideas), as that was their mid-60s working method, but so what.
I think most people also credit "I Feel Fine" to John, but that
MAY be a myth. Some Beatles photographer (name escapes me - I'm
sure someone else can supply it) came out with a book of photos and
reminisces a couple years ago, and he claims that the 3 Beatles,
Paul John and George - but Paul very clearly leading, he claims -
built up "I Feel Fine" from zero, right in front of him, at a
hotel in early '64 (maybe Paris?). I don't recall what he said about
the guitar riff - so John or George may have done that part later.
And more broadly, I've no idea how trustworthy he is considered by
Fab scholars. :-) I'm only claiming that the traditional saw, "I
Feel Fine was John's", is questionable.
"Paperback Writer" is considered a Paul song in the much same way
that "Day Tripper" is considered John. I don't see why that wouldn't
include the riff; Paul was, after all, first (and in his heart,
maybe even foremost) a guitarist. But I can't be definite - sorry.
Jeff
Jamie Dawn Gordon
: >Mark Garvin wrote:
: >> Corrections welcome, but I'm under the impression from what I've
: >> read (George Martin's books and elsewhere) that:
: >>
: >> I Feel Fine is a Lennon lick
: >> Day Tripper is a McCartney lick (? some question about this)
: >>
: >> How about Paperback Writer? Paul as well?
: >Both John and George are seen playing the I Feel Fine riff
: >at different times during live shows. I don't know which or
: >if both played for the released record.
: Hi Jon, I was more interested in who wrote the lines, rather
: than who played them. Very unusual guitar lines...all three
: of 'em. I don't have Lewisohn's book, so I don't know if this
: is covered.
: Mark G.
Okay, here goes. Hope this helps a little.
John Lennon, on Day Tripper: "That's mine, including the lick, the guitar
break, and the whole bit."
John Lennon, on I Feel Fine: "I wrote this at a recording session. It
was tied together around the guitar riff that opens it."
jamie
Frank Agnello
Maresia <gmar...@paju.oulu.fi> wrote:
>Whose ideas were the guitar riffs on Day Tripper and on I Feel Fine? Who
>actually plays them?
>
>Thanks
>
>Gianni
John said in a radio interview with WNEW-FM's Dennis Elsas in 1974 that
those riffs came out of an obscure Robert Parker record from the early
60's (Parker's most memorable hit was "Barefootin'", covered years later
by Pete Townshend). John played the song over the air, and also noted how
similar the riff was to Sonny Boy Williamson's/Allman Bros. "One Way
Out". I recall John playing the "I Feel Fine" riff on the Ed Sullivan
Show, and since there are two guitars playing that "Day Tripper" riff, I'm
going to cop out and say it was John and George. Two guitarists doubling
a riff in a single take together was a pretty common Beatle habit (re:
"Nowhere Man"; "And Your Bird Can Sing"), probably because of the
limitations of 4-track recording.
Jeff Carty
>
>John Lennon, on I Feel Fine: "I wrote this at a recording session. It
>was tied together around the guitar riff that opens it."
This would appear to be questionable by the testimony of other people,
as I explained in another post under this Subject: line.
Of course, from what I know (and said in the other post), it's quite
possible that John *did* contribute the guitar riff, making both stories
of "I Feel Fine" true. (John's statement would then be explained as an
augmentation or simple mis-remembering years after the fact, something
that any of us could do! and that he was certainly not immune to....
e.g., his account of his role in "Eleanor Rigby", which Pete Shotton,
Paul, George, Ringo, etc. have all pretty much debunked.)
Jeff
Jeff Grottick
said it was he who played the opening guitar riff on "I Feel Fine." He
also claimed it was the first use of "feedback" recorded anywhere and
he challenged anyone to prove him wrong!!
Jeff
Kevin L. Barnes
I have a 1970 copy of "Yesterday... and Today"-- stereo version-- on
which the opening riff starts with just one guitar, in the left channel.
Then, the riff is doubled by a guitar in the right channel. Then the
bass comes in playing the riff. Then, the guitar in the left channel
switches to rhythm and the riff is played two more times before the
vocals come in.
I have always assumed-- and this seems logical-- that the guitar
which starts the riff and then switches to rhythm is John. He always
seemed to like riffs...
OCEAN DIG
which starts the riff and then switches to rhythm is John. "
The guitar that starts the song is George, and is double-tracked by
George. John only plays rhythm during the verse, although it is reported
that he plays one of the lead parts in the middle break (believable, since
the riff is exactly the same riff as in "Get Back", which we know John
played).
OCEAN DIG.@aol.com
(T Hartman)