DON'T PEEL ANYMORE BUTCHER COVERS, WHY?
Robert York
Please don't peel it. The unpeeled Butchers are worth more and harder to
find now days. The reason being that back when people first
heard about the butchers being covered up people set out to peel the new
covers off. After years of this the unpeeled Lps are disappearing.
Many serious collectors don't want peeled jobs because they never came
that way from Capitol. Real collectors are purists. If you want to
see the butcher underneath just get a photo of it. Or if the cover a
fairly "trashed" then go for it. You won't get much for it anyway.
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Dave Bradley
>Many serious collectors don't want peeled jobs because they never came
>that way from Capitol. Real collectors are purists.
Uh, the butcher cover did actually come out without a cover over
originally.
Cheesylein
How do people know that theres a real butcher cover underneath then, do
they just peel the corner away to reveal a bit of it?
RJeffreys
If you put the paste-over cover under a good light, you can see the dark
shading of Ringo's turtleneck underneath and various other dark tidbits
show slightly also.
And, yes, people are notorious for peeling back a portion of the cover to
see if there's a second layer underneath. It's hard to find an original
mono/stereo copy that doesn't have a corner tear on it.
My sister and I debated about having our Butcher cover peeled and we just
felt that in time the unpeeled covers would become harder to find so
that's the way we left it.
Turtleneck
Mr. John James Whelan
Cheesylein (chees...@aol.com) writes:
> How do people know that theres a real butcher cover underneath then, do
> they just peel the corner away to reveal a bit of it?
The following is an excerpt from Nicholas Schaffner's book The Beatles
Forever.
To find out if you've got a butcher album cover from the Yesterday
and Today album, this is what you should do:
Rich Friedland, editor the excellent Beatles fanzine called the
Inner Light suggests: "Look at the (trunk) very closely, at the white
parts arounds the Beatles. If you see a picture underneath, you've
got one! A good place to look for the photo to see where it stands
out the most is 3 1/2 inches under the "y" in "Today". On the original,
you'll notice Ringo's collar from his coat really stands out.
If you've got the "butcher cover", there are two ways to get the top
picture off without ruining the bottom one. One way is to steam it off,
but that way usually does a bit of tearing to the photo underneath.
The other way, which is more time consuming is to peel it off with scotch
tape." The editor warns that you should be very careful how far down you
go to get the the surface of the butcher cover with tape...be very careful.
Also, do not use soap or water or you will destroy the album cover.
The Butcher Album Cover was worth $301.00 in 1976!
John
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Don
I forget where exactly I heard this. But I do remember hearing that
someone was looking at their parent's Dean Martin LP, noticed something
was underneath the cover, and proceeded to peel, only to find The
Butcher Cover underneath. Since ole Dean was on Capitol, it kinda sounds
plausable.
Don
JON
There are different ways of thinking as to the question of whether
or not to peel a butcher cover.
Some people maintain that the supply of unpeeled butchers is
dwindling, and that these will increase in value as more are peeled.
These people have a valid point.
However, there are others who say that what good is having an unpeeled
butcher (2nd state) if you can't see the picture underneath? The whole
mystique about the butcher cover is its picture, so one should be able
to see it. Also a valid point.
Probably more peeled butcher covers exist today with flaws from the
peeling (usually tears to the photo) than undamaged ones. Nobody wants
to own a torn cover (again, the photo is what counts here!).
So I think that an undamaged butcher cover (peeled with no tears
and no other flaws) will hold its value as much as unpeeled ones,
because there are so few undamaged peeled covers around. Of course,
first-state covers are usually flawless, but I have seen peeled
butchers that look as good as first-state (you can't tell the
difference).
The best advice, then, is either to keep your unpeeled butcher as it
is (if you can stand it), or peel it. But if you peel it, have it
expertly done so you don't end up with a worthless torn cover. The one
in my collection looks like a first-state cover, but it isn't. I peeled
it...it took me over 4 hours to peel it perfectly. If you don't
have this much patience, have an expert peel yours, or, don't peel
it at all!
Todd Staszak
Jim
RJeffreys wrote:
> My sister and I debated about having our Butcher cover peeled and we just
> felt that in time the unpeeled covers would become harder to find so
> that's the way we left it.
Just in case anyone's wondering....paste-overs are worth more unpeeled.
Been friends with a collectible record store for about 15 years now and
the unpeeled pasteovers always bring more. Of course, a "first state"
brings more than THAT, but you don't see those much!
"Oh, but I'll peel mine CAREFULLY," you say?
The chances of anyone doing an undetectable peel are slim to none...the
cover looks matted and gluey even if the peel is successful. I haven't
seen one yet without at least one tear.
JIM