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Why didn't George Martin produce 'Let It Be'?

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laura

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Nov 18, 2003, 6:36:35 PM11/18/03
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I never realized that Phil Spector produced the original 'Let It Be'
album. I just always assumed that George Martin produced all of the
Beatles' albums. So now I'm curious - why didn't George Martin
produce the original 'Let It Be'? And also, did he produce all of
their other albums, with only that one exception?

Thanks!
Laura

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Geir Tverå

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Nov 18, 2003, 8:06:38 PM11/18/03
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"laura" <ldi...@yahoo.com> skrev i melding
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> I never realized that Phil Spector produced the original 'Let It Be'
> album. I just always assumed that George Martin produced all of the
> Beatles' albums. So now I'm curious - why didn't George Martin
> produce the original 'Let It Be'? And also, did he produce all of
> their other albums, with only that one exception?
>

What happened was that George Martin recorded the songs and produced the
single versions of Let it be and Get Back.

Phil Spector was brought in to mix and produce an album one year after the
recording sessions took place. Before Spector came, Glyn Johns tried to make
the album that they planned to call "Get Back".

I think Phil Spector, George Martin and Glyn Johns were all credited as
producers on The Let It Be album, but I may be wrong.

George Martin is credited as producer (alone) on all of the other records
they made in the 60's.

Geir

John

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Nov 19, 2003, 7:44:19 PM11/19/03
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<What happened was that George Martin recorded the songs and produced the
single versions of Let it be and Get Back.>

George Martin's involvement was sporatic in the recording of the Let It Be/Get
Back sessions. Some days he was there; others he wasn't. Glynn Johns was there
every day, and as such was the primary producer of the sessions. Alan Parsons
also functioned as producer on certain days.

<George Martin is credited as producer (alone) on all of the other records
they made in the 60's.>

Credited, yes, but there were certain tracks particularly on the White Album
thath he did not produce. Geoff Emerick produced these, with help from the
individual Beatles.

I seem to recall reading that at some of their earliest sessions (1962/63) that
Martin would sometimes set everything in motion and then leave the actual
session to his assistants.


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Christian Henriksson

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Nov 20, 2003, 1:48:30 PM11/20/03
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Lo and behold, on 19 Nov 2003 18:44:19 -0600 skok...@aol.comx (John)
sayeth thus:

><What happened was that George Martin recorded the songs and produced the
>single versions of Let it be and Get Back.>
>
>George Martin's involvement was sporatic in the recording of the Let It Be/Get
>Back sessions. Some days he was there; others he wasn't. Glynn Johns was there
>every day, and as such was the primary producer of the sessions. Alan Parsons
>also functioned as producer on certain days.

Exactly. AFAIR, George Martin is actually not credited on the Get
Back/Don't Let Me Down single.

><George Martin is credited as producer (alone) on all of the other records
>they made in the 60's.>
>
>Credited, yes, but there were certain tracks particularly on the White Album
>thath he did not produce. Geoff Emerick produced these, with help from the
>individual Beatles.

Wasn't the producer Chris Thomas?

>I seem to recall reading that at some of their earliest sessions (1962/63) that
>Martin would sometimes set everything in motion and then leave the actual
>session to his assistants.

Ron Richards, later producer for the Hollies.

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laura

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Nov 20, 2003, 9:31:01 PM11/20/03
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>
> What happened was that George Martin recorded the songs and produced the
> single versions of Let it be and Get Back.
>
> Phil Spector was brought in to mix and produce an album one year after the
> recording sessions took place. Before Spector came, Glyn Johns tried to make
> the album that they planned to call "Get Back".
>
> I think Phil Spector, George Martin and Glyn Johns were all credited as
> producers on The Let It Be album, but I may be wrong.
>
> George Martin is credited as producer (alone) on all of the other records
> they made in the 60's.
>
> Geir

Thanks for the info! I'm still wondering though, especially since
Martin was indeed the only producer for all of the other Beatles'
albums, why was anyone else invited to produce? It just seems strange
to me. Did Martin not want it? Why offer it to anyone else at all -
you know what I mean?

Laura

From Me To You

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Nov 22, 2003, 10:06:45 PM11/22/03
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ldi...@yahoo.com (laura) wrote:

>Thanks for the info! I'm still wondering though, especially since
>Martin was indeed the only producer for all of the other Beatles'
>albums, why was anyone else invited to produce? It just seems strange
>to me. Did Martin not want it? Why offer it to anyone else at all -
>you know what I mean?

Perhaps at that time The Beatles needed this album not to succeed.

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Kevin Wayne

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Nov 22, 2003, 10:07:03 PM11/22/03
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Quoth ldi...@yahoo.com (laura) on this day of 20 Nov 2003 20:31:01
-0600:

>Thanks for the info! I'm still wondering though, especially since
>Martin was indeed the only producer for all of the other Beatles'
>albums, why was anyone else invited to produce? It just seems strange
>to me. Did Martin not want it? Why offer it to anyone else at all -
>you know what I mean?

In Anthology, Martin says that the group was really looking to do
something different. They wanted another producer, but didn't tell
him, so he stayed on, and did some of the initial production of the
tracks, but was hamstrung by the "no overdubs; make it live and real"
idea that had been imposed. The project fell apart, and Martin *was*
brought in to do Abbey Road, while the LIB tapes languished. After
Allen Klein was brought in to be their manager, he and John decided to
give it to Phil Spector, evidently with the okay of George and Ringo,
but completely unbeknownst to Paul and George Martin. Paul was
furious, especially at the adding of strings, women's voices, and a
harp to his "Long and Winding Road." George Martin was also angry,
because he felt Spector had done a lot of things that he would have
done also, had he been allowed, but Spector hadn't done them as well
as he would have. He was also told that he wouldn't be given any
production credit, because he hadn't produced the final version of the
album. He told them that the credits should read "Produced by George
Martin. Overproduced by Phil Spector." As he relates, "They didn't
like that so well."
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Mr. Jimi

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Nov 20, 2003, 5:43:13 PM11/20/03
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Christian Henriksson <che...@tiscali.se> wrote in message news:<o0qprv0tbgnlf6eoe...@4ax.com>...

> Lo and behold, on 19 Nov 2003 18:44:19 -0600 skok...@aol.comx (John)
> sayeth thus:
>
> ><George Martin is credited as producer (alone) on all of the other records
> >they made in the 60's.>
> >
> >Credited, yes, but there were certain tracks particularly on the White Album
> >thath he did not produce. Geoff Emerick produced these, with help from the
> >individual Beatles.

But this begs the question: WHY was George Martin not producing Get
Back and parts of the White Album? Have any of the Beatles commented
on this? As to why George Martin was not producing Get Back?

Miguel B. Good

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Nov 24, 2003, 11:16:24 PM11/24/03
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On 22 Nov 2003 21:07:03 -0600, Kevin Wayne <killed...@yahoo.com>
wrote:


>
>In Anthology, Martin says that the group was really looking to do

>something different....He told them that the credits should read "Produced by George


>Martin. Overproduced by Phil Spector." As he relates, "They didn't
>like that so well."
>--
>Kevin Wayne
>

Did you get this from the Anthology BOOK or from the dvd? I don't
recall seeing that interview on the dvd. If so can you tell me where
it is (which chapter)?

Kevin Wayne

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Nov 27, 2003, 7:58:44 PM11/27/03
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Quoth "Miguel B. Good" <migue...@nospam.com> on this day of 24 Nov
2003 22:16:24 -0600:

>On 22 Nov 2003 21:07:03 -0600, Kevin Wayne <killed...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:

>>In Anthology, Martin says that the group was really looking to do
>>something different....He told them that the credits should read "Produced by George
>>Martin. Overproduced by Phil Spector." As he relates, "They didn't
>>like that so well."
>>

>Did you get this from the Anthology BOOK or from the dvd? I don't
>recall seeing that interview on the dvd. If so can you tell me where
>it is (which chapter)?

It's from the book. I conflated two sections together. The part about
them really wanting a new producer, but not letting GM go, is in the
"1969-1970" chapter, page 315 in my copy. The part about GM not
getting production credit and his quip is in the same chapter, on page
350.
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T

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Nov 28, 2003, 8:08:45 PM11/28/03
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It kind of makes sense that after they perfected all the Yellow Sub , Magical
Mystery Tour , Sgt Pepper , White Album stuff , they were sick of the concept
stuff and wanted to "get back" to the original rock stuff .
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