QUESTION!!!!! What is a Neue Regel?
James Pasham
I have listened to QR for about 3 yrs. now but I have just found the
newsgroup. Allow me to introduce myself, I am James Pasham, lurker
extrordinare. (sorry)
Anyway, I bought RFO a month or two ago and I cannot find the meaning
for Neue Regel in any dictionary.
"Time for a Neue Regel"????
Someone please help!!!
(note to Mindcrimer and all involved: It is in the past, noone is
hurt, and I'm sure people want to talk about QR, so please just calm
down.)
Pash
Paul Ready
James Pasham <van...@timetrend.com> wrote:
>I have listened to QR for about 3 yrs. now but I have just found the
>newsgroup. Allow me to introduce myself, I am James Pasham, lurker
>extrordinare. (sorry)
Welcome out of the closet.
>Anyway, I bought RFO a month or two ago and I cannot find the meaning
>for Neue Regel in any dictionary.
Try a German dictionary. It means "New Rule" or "New Regime" or
"New Order" (the first is the most literal, as I understand).
>"Time for a Neue Regel"????
Yes, it is time...
TFIARCTIC
The term means "new order" or "new law" in French if I am not mistaken.
Chuck
johan....@mailbox.swipnet.se
> van...@timetrend.com (James Pasham) writes:
> I have listened to QR for about 3 yrs. now but I have just found the
> newsgroup. Allow me to introduce myself, I am James Pasham, lurker
> extrordinare. (sorry)
Hi there James,
welcome to the group. People like this "Imacrimer", "Tanya King" and BethFrey" (which
are probably the same person) could sure look at your introduction posts. Very nice. We like to
know who we're talking to in this group.
> Anyway, I bought RFO a month or two ago and I cannot find the meaning
> for Neue Regel in any dictionary.
Neue Regel is German and means "new reign" or "new rule" or "new order".
> "Time for a Neue Regel"????
Self explanatory if you read the above !
Look forward to hearing more from you.
ATB (all the best)
Johan Berlin - TIMESCAPE
Mindcrimer
James Pasham wrote:
> (note to Mindcrimer and all involved: It is in the past, noone is
> hurt, and I'm sure people want to talk about QR, so please just calm
> down.)
Thanks for your concern. I don't know what I would do without your wonderful
advice. By the way, I'm always very calm. I do not get frazzled so don't worry.
I'm calm.
JaiPiper
In article <welfier-0907...@tty10.com7.houston.net>,
wel...@sccsi.com (Sean DeHoney) writes:
>Finally the question answered, but not knowing german exactly how is
>pronounced?
>Geoff gave me enough trouble with raison d'etre
>
>
It is pronounced New-aaa or Nu-yea
all my old college linguistics stuff in on MAC disks
so I can't quite remember the doo-dads that represent
the long a.
wow- doodads now that is techinical! :)
jai
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johan....@mailbox.swipnet.se wrote:
> Neue Regel is German and means "new reign" or "new rule" or "new order".
Hey, which one is it? Make up your mind.
> ATB (all the best)
Yes of course, how could we expect anything less?
Martin Mueller (mav)
van...@timetrend.com (James Pasham) writes:
[...]
>Anyway, I bought RFO a month or two ago and I cannot find the meaning
>for Neue Regel in any dictionary.
>"Time for a Neue Regel"????
Hiya !
"Neue Regel" is just german for "new rule". Hope this helps.
'Ryche on,
Mav
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Sean DeHoney
In article <4rtvcj$k...@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>, rais...@expert.cc.purdue.edu
(Paul Ready) wrote:
> James Pasham <van...@timetrend.com> wrote:
> >I have listened to QR for about 3 yrs. now but I have just found the
> >newsgroup. Allow me to introduce myself, I am James Pasham, lurker
> >extrordinare. (sorry)
>
> Welcome out of the closet.
>
> >Anyway, I bought RFO a month or two ago and I cannot find the meaning
> >for Neue Regel in any dictionary.
>
> Try a German dictionary. It means "New Rule" or "New Regime" or
> "New Order" (the first is the most literal, as I understand).
>
> >"Time for a Neue Regel"????
>
> Yes, it is time...
Finally the question answered, but not knowing german exactly how is pronounced?
Geoff gave me enough trouble with raison d'etre
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jaip...@aol.com (JaiPiper) wrote:
>In article <welfier-0907...@tty10.com7.houston.net>,
>wel...@sccsi.com (Sean DeHoney) writes:
>
>>pronounced?
>>Geoff gave me enough trouble with raison d'etre
>>
>>
>
>
>all my old college linguistics stuff in on MAC disks
>so I can't quite remember the doo-dads that represent
>the long a.
>
>wow- doodads now that is techinical! :)
>
>jai
>
Actually, the correct pronunciation of neue is noy. The
"e" at the end is silent and in german the combination of
the letters "eu" creates an oy sound. If you listen to
Geoff carefully you can hear that he's pronouncing
it correctlly.
Yours,
Mike
Cav
James Pasham (van...@timetrend.com) wrote:
: Anyway, I bought RFO a month or two ago and I cannot find the meaning
: for Neue Regel in any dictionary.
: "Time for a Neue Regel"????
Hi James, welcome to the dangerous world of posting on RMAQ -- where even
the most simple statement can earn you the attention of the dynamic duo,
Mindcrimer and Lax. Worry not, for if your heart is true and your
intentions right, then - lo - all will be well.
Neue Regel, if I can recall correctly, translates to "New Order". If I
can pull even harder at my once-capable-of-storing-AND-recalling-
-information brain, I think it's in German. No promises on the latter
though.
Jason
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Mindcrimer
In article <4s1o5f$4...@viper.shadow.net>, cava...@shadow.net (Cav)
writes:
> welcome to the dangerous world of posting on RMAQ -- where even
>the most simple statement can earn you the attention of the dynamic duo,
>Mindcrimer and Lax.
You just earned some attention yourself. Bite me!
Doug Roussel
JaiPiper (jaip...@aol.com) wrote:
: It is pronounced New-aaa or Nu-yea
That's the way it sounds in the song, but I've actually heard it pronounced
"Noy-ay" by the band, on the interview disc "Speaking in Digital."
I do know that "eu" is often pronouced "oy" in German--for example,
mathematicians Von Neumann and Euler pronouced their names "Von Noy-man"
and "Oiler", respectively. But I guess that's nitpicking, isn't it? :-)
Speaking of "Speaking in Digital", does anyone here have a copy? I don't,
but a friend of mine has one that he got when he was working as a DJ for
a college radio station when Rage first came out. He offered to give it
to me, since he's not even remotely interested in Queensryche and only had
the record because it was given to him and he collects records just for the
sake of having odd stuff that no one else has. Never took him up on the offer,
though, and I haven't seen the guy in probably 2 years. I don't remember
much about it, really, but it's interesting and worth having, if for no
other reason than to hear the band pronouce "Neue Regel" and talk about
the unifying themes in Rage and that kinda thing. :-)
Doug
James Pasham
Hey! Great! thanks your help, everybody.
RFO seemes to be one of the most popular albums of fans...but I think
that Mindcrime stands out as, well unique. All of the other albums
use what sound like computer generated sounds, like the comp. sounds
on nm156 or, well most of the sounds on PL. ANYWAY, Is that Geoff on
the keyboard, or are those sounds the post-recording people at EMI
"spicing up" the album?
BTW, Suite sister Mary is the only song on MC that has those wierd
sounds.
BTWx2 When Mary sings on that song, is it Geoff w/ a filter or is
that the Pamala person that is Mary's voice?
Z
do...@freud.inst.com (Doug Roussel) wrote:
>JaiPiper (jaip...@aol.com) wrote:
>: It is pronounced New-aaa or Nu-yea
>
>That's the way it sounds in the song,
I actually think that it sounds very definitely like noy
in the song. I'm sure that Geoff new how to pronounce
neue when they did the song.
>but I've actually heard it pronounced
>"Noy-ay" by the band, on the interview disc "Speaking in Digital."
>I do know that "eu" is often pronouced "oy" in German--for example,
It is definitely Pronounced noy. The e at the end is
almost silent. The sound that occurs there is more an
eh sound that naturally occurs from releasing the oy sound.
>mathematicians Von Neumann and Euler pronouced their names "Von Noy-man"
This would actually be pronounced fon noymahn. V in
German is pronounced like our f sound.
Just a little more nit picking :)!
Yours,
Mike
Paul Ready
James Pasham <van...@timetrend.com> wrote:
>RFO seemes to be one of the most popular albums of fans...but I think
>that Mindcrime stands out as, well unique. All of the other albums
>use what sound like computer generated sounds, like the comp. sounds
>on nm156 or, well most of the sounds on PL. ANYWAY, Is that Geoff on
>the keyboard, or are those sounds the post-recording people at EMI
>"spicing up" the album?
As I recall, it's mostly Geoff on keyboards, but Chris may be doing
some of them. I can't think of any additional musicians on Rage,
unlike Mindcrime, Real World, Empire, and I think Warning, which
brought in Kaman orchestrations (I'm referring to albums, not songs).
>BTW, Suite sister Mary is the only song on MC that has those wierd
>sounds.
?? There's sound bites throughout the album, starting with the first
track.
>BTWx2 When Mary sings on that song, is it Geoff w/ a filter or is
>that the Pamala person that is Mary's voice?
Pamala Moore sings that part, and there is also credit given to the
"Moronic Monks of Morrin Heights" or some such place, for the chanted
lyrics of the Dies Irae (sp?), and some additional instruments conducted
by Kaman.
Mindcrimer
Cav wrote:
> Hi James, welcome to the dangerous world of posting on RMAQ -- where even
> the most simple statement can earn you the attention of the dynamic duo,
> Mindcrimer and Lax.
I am in no way associated with Lax. We are not a duo so bite me! How's that for
attention?
JaiPiper
In article <4s36ph$l...@AesSedai.wes.army.mil>, do...@freud.inst.com (Doug
Roussel) writes:
>Speaking of "Speaking in Digital", does anyone here have a copy? I
don't,
>but a friend of mine has one that he got when he was working as a DJ for
>a college radio station when Rage first came out. He offered to give it
>to me, since he's not even remotely interested in Queensryche and only
had
>the record because it was given to him and he collects records just for
the
>sake of having odd stuff that no one else has. Never took him up on the
>offer,
>though, and I haven't seen the guy in probably 2 years. I don't remember
>much about it, really, but it's interesting and worth having, if for no
>other reason than to hear the band pronouce "Neue Regel" and talk about
>the unifying themes in Rage and that kinda thing. :-)
>
>
>
I have Speaking in Digital but no record player
Hey Mike, THAT must be the reason I didn't know how to
pronounce it!
JaiPiper
In article <4s3nkg$6...@inet2.timetrend.com>, van...@timetrend.com (James
Pasham) writes:
>BTWx2 When Mary sings on that song, is it Geoff w/ a filter or is
>that the Pamala person that is Mary's voice?
>
>
Yes it's Pamela Moore although its hard to tell if you
have the cassette.
Its also much clearer on the Livecrime version, IMO
johan....@mailbox.swipnet.se
> Mindcrimer <ans...@ucbeh.san.uc.edu> writes:
> johan....@mailbox.swipnet.se wrote:
>
> > Neue Regel is German and means "new reign" or "new rule" or "new order".
>
> Hey, which one is it? Make up your mind.
I wrote that for people that have a hard time settling on which translation they like
the best or think fits the song best. To me personally it's "new order"
> > ATB (all the best)
>
> Yes of course, how could we expect anything less?
ATB (to everyone except Mindcrimer :-))
johan - TIMESCAPE
zombp...@gmail.com
> Hey! Great! thanks your help, everybody.
>
> that Mindcrime stands out as, well unique. All of the other albums
> use what sound like computer generated sounds, like the comp. sounds
> on nm156 or, well most of the sounds on PL. ANYWAY, Is that Geoff on
> the keyboard, or are those sounds the post-recording people at EMI
> "spicing up" the album?
>
> sounds.
>
> that the Pamala person that is Mary's voice?
of the possible translations, New Order makes the most sense on an album titled "Rage for Order" :)
Pamela is an awesome singer. I saw Queensryche in concert the last year they did the full Operation: Mindcrime album, one of the best I've ever been to.
The Warning, Rage For Order, and Operation: Mindcrime are all equal on my list of favorite Queensryche albums. I still remember the day I first saw the "Queen of the Ryche" video on Mtv ...
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> newsgroup. Allow me to introduce myself, I am James Pasham, lurker
> extrordinare. (sorry)
>
> for Neue Regel in any dictionary.
>
> "Time for a Neue Regel"????
>
>
>
> (note to Mindcrimer and all involved: It is in the past, noone is
> hurt, and I'm sure people want to talk about QR, so please just calm
> down.)
>
>
actually means the new rule or the new order it´s in sanscrit,latin and greek with the base of the word reg.
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We are living in end times. All the world's a stage & all world leaders are actors for the NWO including the current puppet Obummer
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> I have listened to QR for about 3 yrs. now but I have just found the
> newsgroup. Allow me to introduce myself, I am James Pasham, lurker
> extrordinare. (sorry)
>
> Anyway, I bought RFO a month or two ago and I cannot find the meaning
> for Neue Regel in any dictionary.
>
> "Time for a Neue Regel"????
>
> Someone please help!!!
>
>
>
> (note to Mindcrimer and all involved: It is in the past, noone is
> hurt, and I'm sure people want to talk about QR, so please just calm
> down.)
>
>
> Pash
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> I have listened to QR for about 3 yrs. now but I have just found the
> newsgroup. Allow me to introduce myself, I am James Pasham, lurker
> extrordinare. (sorry)
>
> Anyway, I bought RFO a month or two ago and I cannot find the meaning
> for Neue Regel in any dictionary.
>
> "Time for a Neue Regel"????
>
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> I if u had bothered to read my previous posts, u would've learned that Neue Regel is a Scandinavian 1st/ Germanic 2nd term that refers to a new world order... Specifically speaking against liberal Christianity... The welcoming of queers & right wingists into the the fold of old school Christ teachings!!
