Ray Daniels is the Best Manager...
Stephen J. Vinay III
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To add another twist, Van Halen has fired SRO Management. SRO kingpin
Ray Daniels was said to be the main thorn in SAMMY HAGAR's side. Hagar
has mentioned in the past that he would be interested in a dual frontman
tour with Van Halen featuring himself and Roth splitting the set. With
SRO out of the picture Hagar appears as one of the candidates to snap up
the frontman position once again.
...
And Anthony confirms that SRO is indeed out of the picture and "That was
a big reason why he (Hagar) left. The vision that Ray had was not the
way we wanted to be managed in the future. We had different ideas as far
as what we wanted and that didn't agree with Ray. I think it will be for
the better for us."
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Carnegie Mellon University
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good ideas.
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lady_...@my-deja.com
"Stephen J. Vinay III" <svi...@cyrus.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
> From HardRadio
>
> ****************************
>
> To add another twist, Van Halen has fired SRO Management. SRO kingpin
> Ray Daniels was said to be the main thorn in SAMMY HAGAR's side. Hagar
> has mentioned in the past that he would be interested in a dual
frontman
> tour with Van Halen featuring himself and Roth splitting the set. With
> SRO out of the picture Hagar appears as one of the candidates to snap
up
> the frontman position once again.
>
> ...
>
> And Anthony confirms that SRO is indeed out of the picture and "That
was
> a big reason why he (Hagar) left. The vision that Ray had was not the
> way we wanted to be managed in the future. We had different ideas as
far
> as what we wanted and that didn't agree with Ray. I think it will be
for
> the better for us."
>
Hmmm, interesting. Maybe other bands will soon follow suit...
Doubt it, but...
> I hope if dogs ever take over the world and they choose a king, they
> don't just go by size, because I bet there are some Chihuahuas with
some
> good ideas.
>
> -- Jack Handey
lol! I love that! I don't know why, really, but I love that!!
Shaye
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Before you buy.
lsk...@frojac.com
My question is why does the information get so screwed up? I saw an
interview with Sammy where Sammy said Eddie called him up one Sunday
morning and FIRED him. Now Anthony says Sammy left because of Ray
Daniels? Can't anyone in these bands keep their stories straight?
Thanks for letting me vent.
Laurie
In article <387B4088...@cyrus.andrew.cmu.edu>,
"Stephen J. Vinay III" <svi...@cyrus.andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
> From HardRadio
>
> ****************************
>
> To add another twist, Van Halen has fired SRO Management. SRO kingpin
> Ray Daniels was said to be the main thorn in SAMMY HAGAR's side. Hagar
> has mentioned in the past that he would be interested in a dual
frontman
> tour with Van Halen featuring himself and Roth splitting the set. With
> SRO out of the picture Hagar appears as one of the candidates to snap
up
> the frontman position once again.
>
> ...
>
> And Anthony confirms that SRO is indeed out of the picture and "That
was
> a big reason why he (Hagar) left. The vision that Ray had was not the
> way we wanted to be managed in the future. We had different ideas as
far
> as what we wanted and that didn't agree with Ray. I think it will be
for
> the better for us."
>
> ******************************
>
> --
> Stephen J. Vinay III
> Department of Chemical Engineering
> Carnegie Mellon University
> Pittsburgh, PA 15213
> svi...@andrew.cmu.edu
> http://www.angelfire.com/pa/sjviii
>
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>
> I hope if dogs ever take over the world and they choose a king, they
> don't just go by size, because I bet there are some Chihuahuas with
some
> good ideas.
>
> -- Jack Handey
>
Kaptain Krude
news:85fjo0$8e7$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> Hmmm, interesting. Maybe other bands will soon follow suit...
> Doubt it, but...
>
> > don't just go by size, because I bet there are some Chihuahuas with
> some
> > good ideas.
> >
> > -- Jack Handey
>
Um....I've got three things to say to that quote
Gordita
Chalupa
Encherrido (however the ____ you spell it).
And you say that Chihuahuas have good ideas?
Shame on you! =)
Another day,
Harley
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Sharon
father-in-law and Alex wanted Ray to be the manager of VH - their manager at
the time was a really good friend of Sammy's (and he has since died)....Ray
D was primarily the force behind VH Greatest Hits (which Sammy called the
Death Knell and was vehemently against). When Ray and SRO grabbed VH, it was
the beginning of the end. It's my understanding that Ray is the one who
suggested DLR for the GH and was a catalyst for Eddie firing Sammy.
So, your info was right and so was MA's. :)
Sharon
lsk...@frojac.com wrote:
> > I hope if dogs ever take over the world and they choose a king, they
> > don't just go by size, because I bet there are some Chihuahuas with
> some
> > good ideas.
> >
> > -- Jack Handey
> >
>
lady_...@my-deja.com
> Um....I've got three things to say to that quote
>
> Gordita
> Chalupa
> Encherrido (however the ____ you spell it).
>
> And you say that Chihuahuas have good ideas?
> Shame on you! =)
He was simply the scapedog for all that. Hmmmphh.
S
lsk...@frojac.com
fired" the same as "leaving" a band. But I guess I am arguing
semantics now and there is certainly no point in that.
Laurie
In article <387C5A8A...@ix.netcom.com>,
Toby Guidry
news:387C5A8A...@ix.netcom.com...
> Laurie....it's easy to be confused.
Very easy evidently. ;)
> Ray Danniels *was* Alex Van Halen's
> father-in-law
I thought it was _brother_-in-law (unless Ray has some interesting family
ties)?
> and Alex wanted Ray to be the manager of VH - their manager at
> the time was a really good friend of Sammy's (and he has since died)
Ed Lefler IIRC.
>....Ray
> D was primarily the force behind VH Greatest Hits (which Sammy called the
> Death Knell and was vehemently against). [...]
"Would you do it for free?"
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Toby Guidry wrote:
> "Sharon" <jtc...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> news:387C5A8A...@ix.netcom.com...
> > Laurie....it's easy to be confused.
>
> Very easy evidently. ;)
>
> > Ray Danniels *was* Alex Van Halen's
> > father-in-law
>
> I thought it was _brother_-in-law (unless Ray has some interesting family
> ties)?
For some reason, I thought Alex was married to Ray's DAUGHTER.
Dan
> My question is why does the information get so screwed up? I saw an
> interview with Sammy where Sammy said Eddie called him up one Sunday
> morning and FIRED him. Now Anthony says Sammy left because of Ray
> Daniels? Can't anyone in these bands keep their stories straight?
Hey, if you did as many drugs and partied as hard as the average rock
band, do you think _you'd_ be able to remember why things happened a
few years back? ;)
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> lsk...@frojac.com <lsk...@frojac.com> wrote:
> > My question is why does the information get so screwed up? I saw an
> > interview with Sammy where Sammy said Eddie called him up one Sunday
> > morning and FIRED him. Now Anthony says Sammy left because of Ray
> > Daniels? Can't anyone in these bands keep their stories straight?
>
> Hey, if you did as many drugs and partied as hard as the average rock
> band, do you think _you'd_ be able to remember why things happened a
> few years back? ;)
Hell, *I* can't remember yesterday...
(I just remember doing what they told me... told me...)
As always, I remain...
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lsk...@frojac.com
post. I just wanted to ask, how do you know I haven't "done as many
drugs and partied as hard as the average rock band?" ;-) They don't
call me grandma groupie for nothing.
In article <slrn87qgff.bub....@v2000.scream.org>,
editor0...@scream.org wrote:
> lsk...@frojac.com <lsk...@frojac.com> wrote:
> > My question is why does the information get so screwed up? I saw an
> > interview with Sammy where Sammy said Eddie called him up one Sunday
> > morning and FIRED him. Now Anthony says Sammy left because of Ray
> > Daniels? Can't anyone in these bands keep their stories straight?
>
> Hey, if you did as many drugs and partied as hard as the average rock
> band, do you think _you'd_ be able to remember why things happened a
> few years back? ;)
>
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Douglas Maher
>father-in-law and Alex wanted Ray to be the manager of VH - their manager at
>the time
Correction. Ray was Alex's Brother in law not his father in law. Alex divorced
his wife after the 3 Tour for Halen. Ray is a scumbag and has driven many bands
into an early grave. He sucks and just wait for books and more dirt to come out
on this ass.
Douglas Maher
Methods Of Mayhem makes Milli Vanilli sound like Rush
Stephen J. Vinay III
>
> Methods Of Mayhem makes Milli Vanilli sound like Rush
I'm not sure what this means, but I heard MOM, and I thought it was
basically worthless. Hope this agrees with what you said...
SV
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Toby Guidry
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> Douglas Maher wrote:
> >
> > Methods Of Mayhem makes Milli Vanilli sound like Rush
>
> I'm not sure what this means, but I heard MOM, and I thought it was
> basically worthless. Hope this agrees with what you said...
It does. Rush sounds great. Milli Vanilli suck, but MOM sucks so bad that
they make MV sound great. Mad Luv, bra!!
L8r,
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Stephen J. Vinay III
>
> > I'm not sure what this means, but I heard MOM, and I thought it was
> > basically worthless. Hope this agrees with what you said...
>
> It does. Rush sounds great. Milli Vanilli suck, but MOM sucks so bad that
> they make MV sound great. Mad Luv, bra!!
Phew! Honestly, MOM was the most boring piece of s**t that I've heard in
months (maybe years)... What a waste.
Anyway, lots more music to listen to...
Douglas Maher
>they make MV sound great. Mad Luv, bra!!
To my peeps gettin beatdowns by the PO LEECE Homie Im wit ya. Tommy wake the
fuck up...u r WHITE.
Mad Love to your mutha,
Douglas Maher
TragicL...@webtv.net
<<My question is why does the information get so screwed up?>>
It didn't.
<<I saw an interview with Sammy where Sammy said Eddie called him up one
Sunday morning and FIRED him.>>
Sammy claims that but the truth is that he quit due to Ray wanting to
change the band's image. Eddie has claimed this since day one, and has
been proven right.
<< Now Anthony says Sammy left because of Ray Daniels? Can't anyone in
these bands keep their stories straight?>>
This was the story since Sam left in June 1996.
<<Thanks for letting me vent.
Laurie>>
Next time know the facts.
TragicL...@webtv.net
<<Correction. Ray was Alex's Brother in law not his father in law. Alex
divorced his wife after the 3 Tour for Halen.>>
Yomblah
><<Thanks for letting me vent.
>Laurie>>
>Next time know the facts.
Raaow! Hiss hiss!
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What a fount of information you are. And so pleasant as well.
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> TragicLullabye wrote:
> ><<Thanks for letting me vent.
> >Laurie>>
> >Next time know the facts.
>
> Raaow! Hiss hiss!
OK, who let Mike Bosmay in?
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Douglas Maher
>basically worthless. Hope this agrees with what you said...
>
Indeed. 100%.
lsk...@frojac.com
> >Next time know the facts.
information on VH. I was repeating what Sammy himself said, if he is
untruthful in interviews then I can't be faulted for not knowing what
the truth is. And to be honest with you, I really don't care. Sammy
left, Gary left, Dave left, their reasons for leaving matter not at all
to me.
But thanks for being so pleasant in your rebuttal ;-)
Laurie
In article <85tghc$lkf$1...@nntp2.atl.mindspring.net>,
Toby Guidry
>
> > >Next time know the facts.
> Sorry - this is a QR board and I am definitely not a fountain of
> information on VH. I was repeating what Sammy himself said, if he is
> untruthful in interviews then I can't be faulted for not knowing what
> the truth is.
Ignore the "know-it-all" Laurie. Sammy is no less credible than the Van
Halen's. Eddie was shown in several interviews as saying Sammy's work ethic
sucked. Sammy has put out two albums for Van Halen's one, so that blows
that theory out the water AFAIC.
> And to be honest with you, I really don't care. Sammy
> left, Gary left, Dave left, their reasons for leaving matter not at all
> to me.
>
> But thanks for being so pleasant in your rebuttal ;-)
And for providing some resources to back up the "authoritativeness" of the
statements.
L8r,
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synthuser
>
> > >Next time know the facts.
> Sorry - this is a QR board and I am definitely not a fountain of
> information on VH. I was repeating what Sammy himself said, if he is
> untruthful in interviews then I can't be faulted for not knowing what
> left, Gary left, Dave left, their reasons for leaving matter not at all
> to me.
I don't remember which one it was, cause I read a ton of
Sammy interviews, but what I do remember was that he was pretty
consistent in most of them. His wife was pregnant, he didn't
like the asshole brother-in-law being manager, and the greatest
hits shit with Roth wasn't on his top 10 list of things "I want
to see VH do." All in all, Hagar/VH was the best VH ever IMO.
FUCK is a perfect CD. **** 10/10
The first VH with Roth is classic, but truth is Roth couldn't
really sing for shit, and as the years went by he not only lost
his hair, but what little singing ability he ever had.
Sammy is a singer, from Montrose to solo, to VH to solo.
The guy has a pretty damn good body of work. Roth's 15
minutes were because of a guy named Eddie, take Eddie
away and Roth is another in a long list of mediocre
singer has beens.
PS - I watched Detroit Rock City earlier and laughed my
ass off, fun little film that brought back lots of memories.
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<snip>
> I don't remember which one it was, cause I read a ton of
> Sammy interviews, but what I do remember was that he was pretty
> consistent in most of them. His wife was pregnant, he didn't
> like the asshole brother-in-law being manager, and the greatest
> hits shit with Roth wasn't on his top 10 list of things "I want
> to see VH do."
Yep, Sammy's been consistent in every interview I've seen with him.
> All in all, Hagar/VH was the best VH ever IMO.
They were definitely the most talented VH.
> FUCK is a perfect CD. **** 10/10
>
> The first VH with Roth is classic, but truth is Roth couldn't
> really sing for shit, and as the years went by he not only lost
> his hair, but what little singing ability he ever had.
heh...pretty much agreed on all of the above.
> Sammy is a singer, from Montrose to solo, to VH to solo.
> The guy has a pretty damn good body of work. Roth's 15
> minutes were because of a guy named Eddie, take Eddie
> away and Roth is another in a long list of mediocre
> singer has beens.
Well, I don't know if I'd go that far. I think the particular chemistry of
the original VH was responsible for their early success. I think if Roth
was taken away, Eddie would have just been another relatively obscure
guitar-slinger. I think VHIII pretty much sums up what Eddie without a
strong-willed singer/lyricist/songwriter is capable of.
> PS - I watched Detroit Rock City earlier and laughed my
> ass off, fun little film that brought back lots of memories.
I've still yet to see that. Much like Dazed and Confused, it's one of those
things that I figured to catch when it hits HBO.
Johan Berlin
>All in all, Hagar/VH was the best VH ever IMO.
>FUCK is a perfect CD. **** 10/10
Agreed wholeheartedly.
>The first VH with Roth is classic, but truth is Roth couldn't
>really sing for shit, and as the years went by he not only lost
>his hair, but what little singing ability he ever had.
I really don't agree with the above. I think the first two DLR solo-albums
are pretty damn good. (i.e. not the one with "California Girls" and
"Just a Gigolo/I ain't got nobody" on them, but "Skyscraper" and
"Eat 'em and smile").
I like the songs on both of these and Roths vocals are o.k. as well. Not
fantastic
but his vocals are far from fantastic on the first VH either.
ATB
Johan
synthuser
>
> synthuser skrev i meddelandet <388438...@sonic.net>...
>
> >All in all, Hagar/VH was the best VH ever IMO.
> >FUCK is a perfect CD. **** 10/10
>
> Agreed wholeheartedly.
>
> >The first VH with Roth is classic, but truth is Roth couldn't
> >really sing for shit, and as the years went by he not only lost
> >his hair, but what little singing ability he ever had.
>
> I really don't agree with the above.
Bring it on brother! ;-)
Seriously I didn't really buy the early VH
stuff for the singing(JMO)...don't get me wrong; Roth was ok
and had moments of "damn good, and he did the "rock star party
thing" as good as anyone, but early VH was about Eddie's
playing first for me and my high school wannabe rock star buds.
The following Roth VH discs..., it was a type of feel good
chemistry, kind of like Toby mentioned, so it was less about
chops for me. Then I heard Sammy w/Eddie and well for me...
it was total music I dug as a whole.
> I think the first two DLR solo-albums
> are pretty damn good. (i.e. not the one with "California Girls" and
> "Just a Gigolo/I ain't got nobody" on them, but "Skyscraper" and
> "Eat 'em and smile").
I bought both of those when they came out, nothing that seemed
to last over the years for me. Skyscraper had a killer tune,
but I forget the title. I think it was on the radio as well.
> I like the songs on both of these and Roths vocals are o.k. as well.
Sure. He was a decent singer, no doubt, but I don't think that is
the case anymore. As for Eddie, the Right Here Right Now Live DVD
proves he *is* still a great guitar player, and well Roth couldn't
sing half the songs Sammy does. As far as solo material... Sammy
is an all around musician, Roth did a fine "I'm a rock star" trip.
Which I enjoyed in it's day.
Sammy's a "rock and roll singer," a fine songwriter and a pretty
decent guitarist, his last 2 solo discs are great stuff. And well
being in the original Montrose looks pretty awesome on one's R&R
resume even without also fronting VH for all those years.
JMO's :)
> Not
> fantastic
> but his vocals are far from fantastic on the first VH either.
Yes, agreed, that was my point as well. :)
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Stephen J. Vinay III
>
> Seriously I didn't really buy the early VH
> stuff for the singing(JMO)...don't get me wrong; Roth was ok
> and had moments of "damn good, and he did the "rock star party
> thing" as good as anyone, but early VH was about Eddie's
> playing first for me and my high school wannabe rock star buds.
> The following Roth VH discs..., it was a type of feel good
> chemistry, kind of like Toby mentioned, so it was less about
> chops for me. Then I heard Sammy w/Eddie and well for me...
> it was total music I dug as a whole.
As usual, I must agree with Synth here... As a whole, the VH collection
between VHI and 5150 is spotted with genius but plagued with gobs of
filler material (IMO, of course...). I could go disc-by-disc, but I'm
sure no one really gives THAT MUCH of a s**t about my $0.02... LOL
Suffice to say that Van Hagar would kick Van Roth any day of the week
and thrice on Sunday...
SV
PS. If you MUST know, I'm somewhat of a closet VH3 fan... ;-)
Toby Guidry
> Johan Berlin wrote:
<snip>
> > I think the first two DLR solo-albums
> > are pretty damn good. (i.e. not the one with "California Girls" and
> > "Just a Gigolo/I ain't got nobody" on them, but "Skyscraper" and
> > "Eat 'em and smile").
>
> I bought both of those when they came out, nothing that seemed
> to last over the years for me. Skyscraper had a killer tune,
> but I forget the title. I think it was on the radio as well.
Just Like Paradise? That was the only one I remember getting play. I liked
a couple other things on there, but the group didn't seem to click like they
did on Eat 'Em And Smile which was a much more fun album IMO. Every DLR
release after that just seemed like failed attempts to catch lightning in a
bottle again to me. Formulaic take a hot guitar player and have DLR babble
over his soloing stuff.
> > I like the songs on both of these and Roths vocals are o.k. as well.
>
> Sure. He was a decent singer,
Barely. ;)
> no doubt, but I don't think that is
> the case anymore.
The two songs for the greatest hits album proved that to my ears.
<snip>
> Sammy's a "rock and roll singer," a fine songwriter and a pretty
> decent guitarist, his last 2 solo discs are great stuff. And well
> being in the original Montrose looks pretty awesome on one's R&R
> resume even without also fronting VH for all those years.
And he always has "I Can't Drive 55" to fall back on.
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>> PS - I watched Detroit Rock City earlier and laughed my
>> ass off, fun little film that brought back lots of memories.
>
>I've still yet to see that. Much like Dazed and Confused, it's one of those
>things that I figured to catch when it hits HBO.
Goddam, I'm glad _someone_ else has seen it! I rented it last week and watched
it (I saw it in the theater, too) and it turns out we missed the first few
minutes. Just about everyone needs to see this. Don't know if HBO will give
Gene enough money to air it, tho, Toby... ;)
Toby Guidry
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> "Toby Guidry" <stran...@REMOVEmindspring.com> wrote:
>
>
> >> PS - I watched Detroit Rock City earlier and laughed my
> >> ass off, fun little film that brought back lots of memories.
> >
> >I've still yet to see that. Much like Dazed and Confused, it's one of
those
> >things that I figured to catch when it hits HBO.
>
> Goddam, I'm glad _someone_ else has seen it! I rented it last week and
watched
> it (I saw it in the theater, too) and it turns out we missed the first few
> minutes. Just about everyone needs to see this. Don't know if HBO will
give
> Gene enough money to air it, tho, Toby... ;)
If not, I'll break down and rent it one of these days. I don't rent many
new releases since Blockbuster usually only rents them for a night. When it
hits the 5-night stage is when I look for it. I just want to see it since
we always used to pretend we were KISS. Everybody wanted to be Gene, but
nobody wanted to be Paul.
Sharon
Toby Guidry wrote:
Hey, you can't forget his classic, "Dick in the Dirt" ;> Don't get me started
on San Francisco's favorite son (ok, ONE of them) - I _adore_ Sammy. Saw him
when he was just a baby with Ronnie Montrose.....the Montrose lp, not Paper
Money. He's just gotten better.
MAS Sammy!
Sharon
Johan Berlin
>Johan Berlin wrote:
>> >The first VH with Roth is classic, but truth is Roth couldn't
>> >really sing for shit, and as the years went by he not only lost
>> >his hair, but what little singing ability he ever had.
>> I really don't agree with the above.
>Bring it on brother! ;-)
LOL !
>Seriously I didn't really buy the early VH
>stuff for the singing(JMO)...don't get me wrong; Roth was ok
>and had moments of "damn good, and he did the "rock star party
>thing" as good as anyone, but early VH was about Eddie's
>playing first for me and my high school wannabe rock star buds.
>The following Roth VH discs..., it was a type of feel good
>chemistry, kind of like Toby mentioned, so it was less about
>chops for me. Then I heard Sammy w/Eddie and well for me...
>it was total music I dug as a whole.
Agreed on all of the above.
>> I think the first two DLR solo-albums
>> are pretty damn good. (i.e. not the one with "California Girls" and
>> "Just a Gigolo/I ain't got nobody" on them, but "Skyscraper" and
>> "Eat 'em and smile").
>I bought both of those when they came out, nothing that seemed
>to last over the years for me. Skyscraper had a killer tune,
>but I forget the title. I think it was on the radio as well.
I think you mean "Just like paradise". The title track of that album is
pretty impressive too I think. He should have stuck to that style, it suited
his voice kind of.
>> I like the songs on both of these and Roths vocals are o.k. as well.
>Sure. He was a decent singer, no doubt, but I don't think that is
>the case anymore.
Haven't heard him lately so I can't comment on that.
>As for Eddie, the Right Here Right Now Live DVD
>proves he *is* still a great guitar player, and well Roth couldn't
>sing half the songs Sammy does. As far as solo material... Sammy
>is an all around musician, Roth did a fine "I'm a rock star" trip.
>Which I enjoyed in it's day.
Agreed on all above.
>Sammy's a "rock and roll singer," a fine songwriter and a pretty
>decent guitarist, his last 2 solo discs are great stuff. And well
>being in the original Montrose looks pretty awesome on one's R&R
>resume even without also fronting VH for all those years.
I haven't heard any of Sammy's solo-stuff after VH. What's it like ?
>Visit SyNtHoMaNiA
>SyNtHwOrLd - Issue #4
>SyNtHuSeR - Island Of Misfit Noise CD
>Daniel Byerly - When Children Sleep CD
Did you update your page ? I check just about every week for
updates on the above, but haven't found it yet. did you move it
or am I doing something wrong or did you hide all the updates ???
ATB my friend,
J
FUEL
Hey Ebeneezer, you never sent me that video for Christmas!
FUEL
>Everybody wanted to be Gene, but
>nobody wanted to be Paul.
>
LOL, maybe that's cause Paul is the fairy!
FUEL
>Seriously I didn't really buy the early VH
>stuff for the singing(JMO)...don't get me wrong; Roth was ok
>and had moments of "damn good, and he did the "rock star party
>thing" as good as anyone, but early VH was about Eddie's
>playing
I've always found it ultra-ironic that their biggest hit, Jump, is memorable
for the keyboard not the guitar.
Toby Guidry
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LOL...that was the really funny thing. We didn't even know what that was
then. Paul was just too girlie.
L8r,
--
Toby
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>LOL...that was the really funny thing. We didn't even know what that was
>then. Paul was just too girlie.
lol, I have a copy of the New Orleans Times-Picayune (sp?) for when The Ex and I
went to see Kiss... Anyway, some guy took gary's pic & talked to him and said
it might be in his column in the entertainment section the next day. We get the
paper, and there he is, plastered all over the top of the front page (as well as
on a couple buses)- with paul's make-up and a wig. :) His fifteen minutes of
'fame,' I s'pose. :)