"Gonna Get Close to You"
Shmoe31
Am I the only one that thinks the chorus of this song really sucks? Sorry to
say it about QR but this song would have been 10 times better without... "I'm
gonna get close to you, Oh-oh close to you..." It kinda reminds me of- "It's
all about you, not me, It's all about the way that you're expecting me to be."
Definetly the two worst choruses ever by two talented bands.
Shmoe
Jagerball
Yes, but if you picture this as the thoughts of a demented psychopath, it makes
more sense.
Following too close for comfort,
Bob Huskison
Think for yourself and feel the walls....
Become sand beneath your feet.
Shmoe31
>>Am I the only one that thinks the chorus of this song really sucks? Sorry
>to
>>say it about QR but this song would have been 10 times better without...
>>"I'm
>>gonna get close to you, Oh-oh close to you..." It kinda reminds me of-
>"It's
>>all about you, not me, It's all about the way that you're expecting me to
>>be."
>>Definetly the two worst choruses ever by two talented bands.
>>
>>Shmoe
>>
>>
>
>Yes, but if you picture this as the thoughts of a demented psychopath, it
>makes
>more sense.
>
>Following too close for comfort,
>
>Bob Huskison
Yeah, I can see how a psycho would think so, what would you call it, narrow
mindedly(?)...
Shmoe
Jagerball
>Yeah, I can see how a psycho would think so, what would you call it, narrow
>mindedly(?)...
>
>Shmoe
>
>
Yeah, its like repeat those words as a mantra and soon you'll start to feel the
tension. It really puts you "inside" a stalkers mind.
Regards,
Bob.
Mike Z
In article <19971204044...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
shm...@aol.com (Shmoe31) wrote:
>>>Am I the only one that thinks the chorus of this song really sucks? Sorry
>>to
>>>say it about QR but this song would have been 10 times better without...
>>>"I'm
>>>gonna get close to you, Oh-oh close to you..." It kinda reminds me of-
>>"It's
>>>all about you, not me, It's all about the way that you're expecting me to
>>>be."
>>>Definetly the two worst choruses ever by two talented bands.
>>>
>>>Shmoe
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Yes, but if you picture this as the thoughts of a demented psychopath, it
>>makes
>>more sense.
>>
>>Following too close for comfort,
>>
>>Bob Huskison
>
>Yeah, I can see how a psycho would think so, what would you call it, narrow
>mindedly(?)...
>
LOL! Good one! Hey, I happen to agree with you, Shmoe. I think it's
*the* worst Ryche chorus... well, I was gonna say that they ever wrote,
but they didn't write it.
yours,
Mike
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Ralf Daniels
Shmoe31 wrote:
>
> Am I the only one that thinks the chorus of this song really sucks? Sorry to
> say it about QR but this song would have been 10 times better without... "I'm
> gonna get close to you, Oh-oh close to you..." It kinda reminds me of- "It's
> all about you, not me, It's all about the way that you're expecting me to be."
> Definetly the two worst choruses ever by two talented bands.
>
> Shmoe
Yes. You are right. You are the only one.
Flar.
--
"Once the stone you're crawling under
Is lifted off your shoulder,....
...The noise that you'll hear
Is the crashing down of hollow years"
John Petrucci
HRPuffNStuff
On 4 Dec 1997, Shmoe31 wrote:
> Am I the only one that thinks the chorus of this song really sucks? Sorry to
> say it about QR but this song would have been 10 times better without... "I'm
> gonna get close to you, Oh-oh close to you..." It kinda reminds me of- "It's
> all about you, not me, It's all about the way that you're expecting me to be."
> Definetly the two worst choruses ever by two talented bands.
>
No, the all time worst is "You gotta get a life, Yeah you gotta get a
life, now its time to get a life, yeah you gotta get a life, ..." I think
someone who's never heard the song would dislike it if they read that
chorus in a magazine!!
HR
HRPuffNStuff
On Thu, 4 Dec 1997, Mike Z wrote:
> LOL! Good one! Hey, I happen to agree with you, Shmoe. I think it's
> *the* worst Ryche chorus... well, I was gonna say that they ever wrote,
> but they didn't write it.
>
Who wrote it then?
HR
Xanadu Records
Shmoe31 wrote:
>
> Am I the only one that thinks the chorus of this song really sucks? Sorry to
> say it about QR but this song would have been 10 times better without... "I'm
> gonna get close to you, Oh-oh close to you..." It kinda reminds me of- "It's
> all about you, not me, It's all about the way that you're expecting me to be."
> Definetly the two worst choruses ever by two talented bands.
>
Shmoe,
This is NOT a QR composition, it is a cover of a Canadian performer
named Dal Bello. Hence, the chorus remains as the originator intended.
Of course, this COULD be why Dal Bello slipped into obscurity...
John DiBella
President/Xanadu Records
http://www.geocities.com/colosseum/6248/music.html
Shmoe31
>LOL! Good one! Hey, I happen to agree with you, Shmoe. I think it's
>*the* worst Ryche chorus... well, I was gonna say that they ever wrote,
>but they didn't write it.
>
>
>Mike
Quite a few people have told me this. What I thought was that it was written
by the Ryche in '84 and included on the album after reading the notes. Guess I
was wrong!
Shmoe
Mike Z
In article <Pine.SOL.3.96.971204...@titan.cc.wwu.edu>,
HRPuffNStuff <n971...@cc.wwu.edu> wrote:
>On 4 Dec 1997, Shmoe31 wrote:
>
>> Am I the only one that thinks the chorus of this song really sucks? Sorry to
>> say it about QR but this song would have been 10 times better
without... "I'm
>> gonna get close to you, Oh-oh close to you..." It kinda reminds me of- "It's
>> all about you, not me, It's all about the way that you're expecting me
to be."
>> Definetly the two worst choruses ever by two talented bands.
>>
>No, the all time worst is "You gotta get a life, Yeah you gotta get a
>life, now its time to get a life, yeah you gotta get a life, ..." I think
>someone who's never heard the song would dislike it if they read that
>chorus in a magazine!!
>
Bleach! Yeah, *that* is *the* worst chorus that QR ever wrote. They
didn't write GGCTY, but I think that GAL is worse anyway. I have heard
the song and I still dislike it. The ultimate test for me with HITNF was
that I wasn't really moved by the material live either. Not even songs
like You that I liked on the album. Everything just paled in comparison
to the stuff from *every* other album, IMO.
Yours,
Amy Lee
Xanadu Records wrote:
>
> Shmoe31 wrote:
> >
> > Am I the only one that thinks the chorus of this song really sucks? Sorry to
> > say it about QR but this song would have been 10 times better without... "I'm
> > gonna get close to you, Oh-oh close to you..." It kinda reminds me of- "It's
> > all about you, not me, It's all about the way that you're expecting me to be."
> > Definetly the two worst choruses ever by two talented bands.
> >
>
> Shmoe,
> This is NOT a QR composition, it is a cover of a Canadian performer
> named Dal Bello. Hence, the chorus remains as the originator intended.
> Of course, this COULD be why Dal Bello slipped into obscurity...
>
> John DiBella
> President/Xanadu Records
> http://www.geocities.com/colosseum/6248/music.html
Nah, Dal Bello's stuff isn't too bad. I have a tape of her other songs
and it's kinda like dance pop music, with a few weird things here and
there... She's still alive, doing music, anyhow. Didn't she sing on
Alex Lifeson's solo album?
Amy
synthuser
> HRPuffNStuff wrote:
> >No, the all time worst is "You gotta get a life, Yeah you gotta get a
> >life, now its time to get a life, yeah you gotta get a life, ..." I think
> >someone who's never heard the song would dislike it if they read that
> >chorus in a magazine!!
I remember I was kinda not sure on HITNF up to that point
and then I went "no way!" LOL Thank God for Spool ;)
Charlie - elf/dentist
--
"Silver and gold..."
Douglas Brown
HRPuffNStuff wrote:
>
> On Thu, 4 Dec 1997, Mike Z wrote:
>
> > *the* worst Ryche chorus... well, I was gonna say that they ever wrote,
> > but they didn't write it.
> >
Dalbello. QR's version is an amazingly faithful cover of Dalbello's,
with the only real difference being Lisa Dalbello sang the original
(Geoff admitted this in interviews when the album came out). Every
single vocal inflection Geoff uses in QR's version (including the
"o-o-so close to you," and the double-tracked voice on "And I'm watching
you") are copies of Lisa's performance. I disagree about this being a
"sucky" chorus; the intent was to convey the thought processes of a very
disturbed and obsessive person, which Lisa's performance does very
well. Geoff obviously agrees with me, because he copied her performance
so closely. :-)
D
Iajo
>From: HRPuffNStuff <n971...@cc.wwu.edu>
>Date: Thu, Dec 4, 1997 13:33 EST
>Message-id: <Pine.SOL.3.96.971204...@titan.cc.wwu.edu>
>
>On Thu, 4 Dec 1997, Mike Z wrote:
>
>> LOL! Good one! Hey, I happen to agree with you, Shmoe. I think it's
>> *the* worst Ryche chorus... well, I was gonna say that they ever wrote,
>> but they didn't write it.
>>
>Who wrote it then?
>
>
>
>
>
Lisa DalBello or DelBello don't have RFO anywhere handy to check that all
important spelling Iajo
Heros don't use highways -- tends to mess up their horses' hooves
Shaye69
>No, the all time worst is "You gotta get a life, Yeah you gotta get a
>life, now its time to get a life, yeah you gotta get a life, ..." I think
>someone who's never heard the song would dislike it if they read that
>chorus in a magazine!!
>
>
>
>
Agreed, completely. I was gonna post that, but wanted to see if anyone else
would bring it up 1st.
Shaye
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My ring of brass lay rusting on the floor
Is this all?
Because it's not what I expected!...
Here's to love, hate, promises, and promised land lies..."
Brad Miller
Amy Lee wrote:
>
> Xanadu Records wrote:
> >
> > Shmoe,
> > This is NOT a QR composition, it is a cover of a Canadian performer
> > named Dal Bello. Hence, the chorus remains as the originator intended.
> > Of course, this COULD be why Dal Bello slipped into obscurity...
> >
> > John DiBella
> > President/Xanadu Records
> > http://www.geocities.com/colosseum/6248/music.html
>
> Nah, Dal Bello's stuff isn't too bad. I have a tape of her other songs
> and it's kinda like dance pop music, with a few weird things here and
> there... She's still alive, doing music, anyhow. Didn't she sing on
> Alex Lifeson's solo album?
>
Yes. That album is actually quite good. And she just released a new
album about 3-4 months ago. I have no idea what it is like, though. I
just hear about her once in a while up here in Canada.
Brad
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Shmoe31
>Not even songs
>like You
How can you like that song? That is the most-stayed-away song on HITNF for me!
Please don't hit me! I know almost everyone, if not everyone, likes this
song. It just doesn't do anything for me.
Shmoe
Shmoe31
>>No, the all time worst is "You gotta get a life, Yeah you gotta get a
>>life, now its time to get a life, yeah you gotta get a life, ..." I think
>>someone who's never heard the song would dislike it if they read that
>>chorus in a magazine!!
>>
>>HR
awesome song though! IMHO, it's better than "You."
Shmoe
Jagerball
>How can you like that song? That is the most-stayed-away song on HITNF for
>me!
> Please don't hit me! I know almost everyone, if not everyone, likes this
>song. It just doesn't do anything for me.
>
>Shmoe
You don't like it; your opinion. Cool. Others do (including me); our opinion.
Cool.
Perhaps (& I don't mean this sarcastically) it has to do with your perspective
on life right now. I know I didn't used to like ARN so much. Now I do.
I'm up to $.04,
Bob.
Mike Z
In article <19971205222...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
shm...@aol.com (Shmoe31) wrote:
>>Not even songs
>>like You
>
>How can you like that song? That is the most-stayed-away song on HITNF for me!
> Please don't hit me!
No, I'm gonna punch you right in the eye! Come here!
>I know almost everyone, if not everyone, likes this
>song. It just doesn't do anything for me.
>
That's cool! Everyone has different taste buds in their ears. It's not
nearly my fav QR song, just one that I do enjoy off of HITNF.
Mike Z
In article <19971205232...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
jage...@aol.com (Jagerball) wrote:
>>How can you like that song? That is the most-stayed-away song on HITNF for
>>me!
>> Please don't hit me! I know almost everyone, if not everyone, likes this
>>song. It just doesn't do anything for me.
>>
>>Shmoe
>
>You don't like it; your opinion. Cool. Others do (including me); our opinion.
> Cool.
>
>Perhaps (& I don't mean this sarcastically) it has to do with your perspective
>on life right now. I know I didn't used to like ARN so much. Now I do.
>
What changed your mind about ARN, eating more take-out food?
Will
I disagree. The content of the song deals with an obsessed male. So, if you
put yourself (so to speak) in his shoes, then you would know how this guy
feels towards this woman. When people are obsessed, thyey tend to do & say
weird, and creepy shit. Not only that This happens to be one of my FAVs from
the band.
Jagerball
>>Perhaps (& I don't mean this sarcastically) it has to do with your
>perspective
>>on life right now. I know I didn't used to like ARN so much. Now I do.
>>
>What changed your mind about ARN, eating more take-out food?
>
>Yours,
>
>Mike
You shithead. (JK)
Actually, the overriding factor at the time was not the music, but the lyrics.
I just happened to be at a time when they hit too close to home. At least the
way I took them. Now I can just take it as a song.
Haven't had anything from a box or wrapper in years (but can still taste the
last one I had),
Bob.
synthuser
Jagerball wrote:
> Haven't had anything from a box or wrapper in years (but can still taste the
> last one I had),
>
> Bob.
Ha ha!
Mike Z
Oddly enough this song was written by a woman.
yours,
mike
Shmoe31
>ARN
I am sorry I can't think at this moment. What is ARN?
Shmoe
Ted
Shaye69
>>Not even songs
>>like You
>
>me!
> Please don't hit me! I know almost everyone, if not everyone, likes this
>song. It just doesn't do anything for me.
>
>Shmoe
>
>
>
time. But I didn't start to really like it until I heard it live!
Shaye69
>Haven't had anything from a box or wrapper in years (but can still taste the
>last one I had),
>
>Bob.
>
>
>
average to digest? :-)
Shaye
Robert Huskison
Shmoe31 wrote in message <19971206230...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...
>>ARN
>
>I am sorry I can't think at this moment. What is ARN?
>
>Shmoe
Another Rainy Night.
Bob.
Jagerball
>And it's probably still in there, too... that shit takes, what? 7 years on
>average to digest? :-)
>
>Shaye
>
>
Bob.
ctid...@hsc.unt.edu
In article <34873A...@idt.net>,
Xanadu Records <rs...@idt.net> wrote:
>
> Shmoe31 wrote:
> >
> > Am I the only one that thinks the chorus of this song really sucks? Sorry
to
> > say it about QR but this song would have been 10 times better without...
"I'm
> > gonna get close to you, Oh-oh close to you..." It kinda reminds me of-
"It's
> > all about you, not me, It's all about the way that you're expecting me to
be."
> > Definetly the two worst choruses ever by two talented bands.
> >
> > Shmoe
>
> This is NOT a QR composition, it is a cover of a Canadian performer
> named Dal Bello. Hence, the chorus remains as the originator intended.
> Of course, this COULD be why Dal Bello slipped into obscurity...
>
> John DiBella
> President/Xanadu Records
> http://www.geocities.com/colosseum/6248/music.html
Here I disagree ... 1st of all the song was meant to have heavy sexual
overtones so I think the chorus fits and secondly, Lisa Dalbello was the
victim of inept management and I believe a major collaborator of her's
died. She released an album last year after being written off by the
music industry.
When I researched who she was and why Queensryche wanted to cover her
song, everything fit. Dalbello is really into the interpersonal twisted
sh*t wth pain interlaced everywhere, also she really pushed the
parameters for female singers in the 80's, much like the legendary Kate
Bush. They were not afraid to be sexual, but instead of the accustomary
passive role .... they really were agressive about it and laid the
foundation for the ladies today: Alannis, Fiona Apple, Meredith Brooks,
Jewel, etc.
I used to think that Dalbello was irrelevant in the music scene and that
her involvement with the Ryche was one of things that may never make
sense. Upon closer inspection, the song and her writing style fit the
band and the album for that matter like a glove. Check out "Black On
Black" by Heart on 'Desire Walks On'. The first time I heard the song, I
was convinced that Geoff had finally collaorbated with the Wilson sisters
....... wrong answer indeed, it was Lisa Dalbello. This really caught my
attention as I thought (erroneously) that I could pick out a Geoff Tate
tune anywhere.
Keep The Rage,
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Amy Lee
Will wrote:
>
> I disagree. The content of the song deals with an obsessed male. So, if you
> put yourself (so to speak) in his shoes, then you would know how this guy
> feels towards this woman. When people are obsessed, thyey tend to do & say
> weird, and creepy shit. Not only that This happens to be one of my FAVs from
> the band.
The song could be about an obsessed female. After all, the writer,
Dal Bello, is female... I dig the song too, it's pretty cool live.
Amy
Ted
In article <881637665...@dejanews.com>, ctid...@hsc.unt.edu wrote:
>
> Here I disagree ... 1st of all the song was meant to have heavy sexual
> overtones so I think the chorus fits and secondly, Lisa Dalbello was the
> victim of inept management and I believe a major collaborator of her's
> died. She released an album last year after being written off by the
> music industry.
>
> When I researched who she was and why Queensryche wanted to cover her
> song, everything fit. Dalbello is really into the interpersonal twisted
> sh*t wth pain interlaced everywhere, also she really pushed the
> parameters for female singers in the 80's, much like the legendary Kate
> Bush. They were not afraid to be sexual, but instead of the accustomary
> passive role .... they really were agressive about it and laid the
> foundation for the ladies today: Alannis, Fiona Apple, Meredith Brooks,
> Jewel, etc.
>
> I used to think that Dalbello was irrelevant in the music scene and that
> her involvement with the Ryche was one of things that may never make
> sense. Upon closer inspection, the song and her writing style fit the
> band and the album for that matter like a glove. Check out "Black On
> Black" by Heart on 'Desire Walks On'. The first time I heard the song, I
> was convinced that Geoff had finally collaorbated with the Wilson sisters
> ....... wrong answer indeed, it was Lisa Dalbello. This really caught my
> attention as I thought (erroneously) that I could pick out a Geoff Tate
> tune anywhere.
>
>
> Keep The Rage,
you're right about what a great songwriter and musician she is....and
I guess Mick Ronson and David Gilmour (among others) agree as they
both recorded with her
and by the way......her version of "Black on Black" was better
Cheers,
Ted
synthuser
ctid...@hsc.unt.edu wrote:
> Here I disagree ... 1st of all the song was meant to have heavy sexual
> overtones so I think the chorus fits
I always liked it very much and think the chorus is just fine.
The whole song is fine IMHO. It did sound un-QR I remember but
a quick look at the liner notes and ...
> and secondly, Lisa Dalbello was the
> victim of inept management and I believe a major collaborator of her's
> died. She released an album last year after being written off by the
> music industry.
I would like to hear it, I thought the imagery on GGCTY was
very good and the song is still one of my fav's
> When I researched who she was and why Queensryche wanted to cover her
> song, everything fit. Dalbello is really into the interpersonal twisted
> sh*t wth pain interlaced everywhere, also she really pushed the
> parameters for female singers in the 80's, much like the legendary Kate
> Bush.
Kate is awesome. Great example of masterful lyric beauty.
Very Talented. Some interesting videos as well. I had
The Whole Story video and always loved it. Cloudbusting
was great! Just like I imagined it :)
> They were not afraid to be sexual, but instead of the accustomary
> passive role .... they really were agressive about it and laid the
> foundation for the ladies today: Alannis, Fiona Apple, Meredith Brooks,
> Jewel, etc.
Hmmmmm interesting :)
> I used to think that Dalbello was irrelevant in the music scene and that
> her involvement with the Ryche was one of things that may never make
> sense. Upon closer inspection, the song and her writing style fit the
> band and the album for that matter like a glove.
Agreed!
> Check out "Black On
> Black" by Heart on 'Desire Walks On'. The first time I heard the song, I
> was convinced that Geoff had finally collaorbated with the Wilson sisters
> ....... wrong answer indeed, it was Lisa Dalbello.
Great info thanks Chris :)
--
Great wide stretches of canvas
Signed by a godless name
Strange bright colours of madness
Only a fool would frame
Shaye69
>When I researched who she was and why Queensryche wanted to cover her
>> song, everything fit.
That's some interesting stuff... I'm still wanting to hear her GGCTY- now I
want to hear some of her other stuff- esp. Black on Black- I thought that was
one of the very few decent songs Heart's done this decade... hanks for the
info.
Brad Miller
Ted wrote:
>
> you're right about what a great songwriter and musician she is....and
> I guess Mick Ronson and David Gilmour (among others) agree as they
> both recorded with her
>
> and by the way......her version of "Black on Black" was better
I agree... her version is much better.
synthuser
Brad Miller wrote:
> > I guess Mick Ronson and David Gilmour (among others) agree as they
> > both recorded with her
Ah Mick R. Brings back good memories...
RIP Mick and I miss the brilliance :) Say hi to
Paul K for me.
Damn I miss you guys! :(
--
"Just write that. I am a flake. I got a split
personality a stuff like that. Some night, if
your in the right place at the right time,
you'll probably see me in a dress."
-Mike Ditka
Brad Miller
Daniel Cummerow wrote:
>
> Brad Miller wrote:
> >
> > Ted wrote:
> > >
> > > you're right about what a great songwriter and musician she is....and
> > > both recorded with her
> > >
> >
> > I agree... her version is much better.
> >
> > Brad
> >
> > --
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> > Brad Miller
> > ASIC Designer
> > Newbridge Networks Corporation
> > http://www.newbridge.com/
> > mailto:brad...@newbridge.com
> > ---------------------------------------
>
> for the movie 9 1/2 Weeks and the other one is on her album She. The
> version on the soundtrack is more in the style of whomanfoursays.
Really, I didn't know that. I only know the version on She.