I will remember?
Seppo Antero Tolonen
Occasionally it sounds like 'our eyes in the sky', the spy satellites, but in
some other points..... Hmmm.... (?)
'When you gaze the evening sky,
and you reach out with your mind
You can see the nations eyes
Don't hide - It's me'
Or something, and then
'And we wonder how machines
can steal each other's dreams
in the points that are unseen
- it's real...'
Opinions??? Translations???
(pls ignore the possible mistakes, not holding the lyrics right now... =) )
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/Seppo
Santa's Little Helper...
(Currently on vacation)
RYCHE ROX
"Here's a nice little ditty about spy satellites ...." <g>
IMHO it's a song about not being as "alone" as you may think you are ...
someone could be watching you, be it Big Brother or some other
as-yet-unnamed entity ...
LADIEINBLK
writes:
As you gaze at the evening sky
and your reaching out with your mind,
Don't Hide.. IT'S YOU. I WILL REMEMBER.
IMO -> what you will remember is the question.
Seppo Antero Tolonen
: ;>Occasionally it sounds like 'our eyes in the sky', the spy satellites,
: but in
: ;>some other points..... Hmmm.... (?)
: I've often wondered the same thing myself. Tell me if this sounds crazy,
: but I see it as tying in with the Rage theme of control and technology,
: and somehow society has become so driven by technology, computers,
: machines, that these machines become human-like, or vice versa. Perhaps I
: come to that conclusion because of SiD being the previous song. The
: humanizing of machines, and de-humanizing of people, was, IMO, a recurring
: theme on the early QR albums.
I've got the same overall feeling about the album. Although it does have songs
which sound like something completely else, many songs seem to have this
aspect represented. Also, an anarchy against this could be one theme.
Songs like Surgical strike, I will remember, Screaming in Digital etc. and
then the anarchy represented by the Chemical Youth (We are rebellion).
One thing, I've wondered a lot is the song 'Neue regel'. Ok, it's German and
means 'New order', right? But what's the final meaning of the song (if one)?
It's one of my favorites, but lines like
'Static signs of the distant wanderer,
fill the air are never seen,
face the electric time shock now
No, it's not a dream anymore!!!'
'Static signs' and 'the distant wanderer' sound like a comet (Halley's?) or
something that causes disturbance to the electric gadgets, but what is the
shock then? And whose dream is it anyway?
Ok, ok, it _is_ far fetched, but that's just my gut feeling. Being no natively
fluent in English, there may be some aspects that remain unnoticed for me.
Enlighten me, please.
Paul Ready
>I've often wondered the same thing myself. Tell me if this sounds crazy,
>but I see it as tying in with the Rage theme of control and technology,
>and somehow society has become so driven by technology, computers,
>machines, that these machines become human-like, or vice versa. Perhaps I
>come to that conclusion because of SiD being the previous song. The
>humanizing of machines, and de-humanizing of people, was, IMO, a recurring
>theme on the early QR albums.
Yeah, I'd have to agree with you. I think some of the foundations of what
lead into Mindcrime were on that album, as well as the Warning. They had
techno/cyber music before it really hit. A lot about control, rebellion,
order, soldiers, computers, spys, murders, stalkers.... and vampires.
You know, "The Vampire Lestat" came out the year before Rage, and in it
Lestat describes rock as vampiric....
Makes you wonder if anyone in the band read the book at the time.
RYCHE ROX
(Paul Ready) writes:
>Makes you wonder if anyone in the band read the book at the time.
I'd have to say yes, 'cuz in a few Rage-era articles, they talk of some of
the songs on the album being influenced by the book.
I STILL think that they'd be the perfect choice for the soundtrack should
they ever turn it into a movie. And with the success of "Interview", that
may not be as far away as one would imagine ...
Paul Ready
>In article <44avto$3...@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>, rais...@expert.cc.purdue.edu
>(Paul Ready) writes:
>>Makes you wonder if anyone in the band read the book at the time.
>I'd have to say yes, 'cuz in a few Rage-era articles, they talk of some of
>the songs on the album being influenced by the book.
Really? Cool, I hadn't heard that. I really didn't get too into them
until Mindcrime, and even then it wouldn't have meant anything to me
since I didn't start reading the books until recently.
>I STILL think that they'd be the perfect choice for the soundtrack should
>they ever turn it into a movie. And with the success of "Interview", that
>may not be as far away as one would imagine ...
That would be too cool. I heard that there were intentions to continue
with the series, an interview with Ann Rice (sorry about the pun) implied
that she was willing to continue having her books adapted, and that she
retracted her earlier statement and would like Tom Cruise to continue
as Lestat.
OK, if not the soundtrack, just one or two songs on it.... who better
to do it?
Doug Roussel
: means 'New order', right? But what's the final meaning of the song (if one)?
: It's one of my favorites, but lines like
: 'Static signs of the distant wanderer,
: fill the air are never seen,
: face the electric time shock now
: No, it's not a dream anymore!!!'
: 'Static signs' and 'the distant wanderer' sound like a comet (Halley's?) or
: something that causes disturbance to the electric gadgets, but what is the
: shock then? And whose dream is it anyway?
I've never really thought about the 'distant wanderer' line before, but now
that you mention it, that does make me think there is more to the song than
the New World Order aspect. Maybe they are talking about a New World Order
ushered in by extraterrestrial visitors. If you want to know where I get
these ideas, read alt.conspiracy now and then. :-) I hope that writing
science fiction was Queensryche's intentions in this case. ;oP
Bollocks
In article <DFJ0p...@utu.fi>, sea...@utu.fi (Seppo Antero Tolonen) wrote:
> Does anyone have a clue what 'I will remember' or the Rage is about???
> Occasionally it sounds like 'our eyes in the sky', the spy satellites, but in
> some other points..... Hmmm.... (?)
>
> 'When you gaze the evening sky,
> and you reach out with your mind
> You can see the nations eyes
> Don't hide - It's me'
>
> Or something, and then
>
> 'And we wonder how machines
> can steal each other's dreams
> in the points that are unseen
> - it's real...'
>
> Opinions??? Translations???
> (pls ignore the possible mistakes, not holding the lyrics right now... =) )
Bollocks
(Paul Ready) wrote:
Absolutely..as participator in the album as well as a Rice fan-who better??
RYCHE ROX
> I heard that there were intentions to continue
>with the series, an interview with Ann Rice (sorry about the pun) implied
>that she was willing to continue having her books adapted, and that she
>retracted her earlier statement and would like Tom Cruise to continue
>as Lestat.
I think I read somewhere that the Geffen company has the rights to the
film version of "The Vampire Lestat", but next up for Rice's book-to-film
journey is supposedly her book "The Witching Hour" ... I hope they don't
wait too long before doing the next Vampire movie, though ... "The Vampire
Lestat" screams to be made into a movie, IMHO.
"OK, if not the soundtrack, just one or two songs on it.... who better
to do it?"
Who better indeed? <g>
Michelle
> I've often wondered the same thing myself. Tell me if this sounds crazy,
> but I see it as tying in with the Rage theme of control and technology,
> and somehow society has become so driven by technology, computers,
> machines, that these machines become human-like, or vice versa. Perhaps I
> come to that conclusion because of SiD being the previous song. The
> humanizing of machines, and de-humanizing of people, was, IMO, a recurring
> theme on the early QR albums.
This is a very good point, I hadn't quite thought of it in this way.
I had always thought of this song as a rememberance of an invading alien
force that was able to somehow use mind control to cause a peaceful
takeover of the earth.
Especially with these verses:
There's a cold wind out tonight
The chill of distant eyes
An orbit survey finds ... your mind
I will remember
You will remember
The star that came tonight ...
With "the star that came tonight" referring to a UFO.
But then when it gets to the part that is quite evocative of sentient
machines and AIs:
There's a thought that fills your mind
A vision of a time
When knowledge was confined
And then we wonder how machines
Can steal each others' dreams
From points that are unseen ... it's real
(Even though "from points that are unseen" could refer to an alien force)
I will remember
You will remember
The star that came tonight
When you gaze at the evening sky
And you're reaching out with your mind
You might see the nation's eyes
Don't hide ... it's you
"Reaching out with your mind" feels like a reference to psychic powers on
the part of the earth-bound person.
Oh can't you see the light
Of the morning star
So I guess what I am saying is I have no idea what it is about :)
However, it's a damn fine song, made even more so by the intese emotion
and power that comes forth from Geoff's singing and the rest of the
band's musical genius.
hellMice
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Michelle, Moonbeam no more
Perry Rovers
: I had always thought of this song as a rememberance of an invading alien
: takeover of the earth.
I agree that it's about technology taking over ...
Maybe it was influenced by the increased focus on computers and technology
for the SDI campaign. When was the song written, 1985?
: The chill of distant eyes
: The star that came tonight ...
war.
: There's a thought that fills your mind
: When knowledge was confined
: And then we wonder how machines
: Can steal each others' dreams
: From points that are unseen ... it's real
:
: (Even though "from points that are unseen" could refer to an alien force)
I'd say spy sattelites.
: When you gaze at the evening sky
: And you're reaching out with your mind
: You might see the nation's eyes
Imagining the sattelites out there? The nation's eyes might be a nice way of
describing KH spy sattelites.
: So I guess what I am saying is I have no idea what it is about :)
Me too. :)
: However, it's a damn fine song, made even more so by the intese emotion
: and power that comes forth from Geoff's singing and the rest of the
: band's musical genius.
Definitely, I think it's one of the best songs on the album.
--
Perry Rovers (Perry....@kub.nl)
abbyrj...@gmail.com
awni...@gmail.com
I mean I could be totally wrong but theories are theories and I would like to share...
Maybe the song is about Planet X, or the Planet X system. ( supposedly discovered in the early 80s)
The first thing he says is something about checking an orbital path and I know satellites could do that, but....
I will remember the star that came tonight, you will remember the star that came tonight. Sounds like he's talking about something specific ...that we're all going to remember.
And maybe saying in concert that it was about spy satellites is just a little bit more apeeling than "hey everybody this is about what's going to take us all out."
* again, just a theory. I like to keep an open mind.