The North Korean threat

[AJ]

It's a shame sexy bitches like this want to kill us:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7147/6606298249_2df4b07bd1_z.jpg

Anyway, how serious do you take the North Korean threat?

[83LowRider]

http://i.imgur.com/l30eJoT.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/bGvp3D6.jpg

Those crazy bastards often back up what they
claim they will do. The nuke tests, opening back
up the reactor areas.... so no telling what they will
do. I hope we smoke the shit out of their capital
if they do start some shit. Total ash. The sooner
they re-unify the better.

[steveh99]

In article <59ebb84f-8cd8-4140-9388-
406a2f...@p5g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, misfits...@aol.com
says...

>
> It's a shame sexy bitches like this want to kill us:
> http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7147/6606298249_2df4b07bd1_z.jpg
>
> Anyway, how serious do you take the North Korean threat?

I say knock out their military bases/facilities

[mss]

On Thursday, April 4, 2013 4:48:29 PM UTC-5, AJ wrote:

> Anyway, how serious do you take the North Korean threat?

To America? Not gonna happen - don't have the
money, the tech, the human resources, hell not
even the food. We'd whip their ass utterly, but...

If China & the Soviets felt threatened by U.S.
engagement in that theater, we can't afford their
greater partnership working against the U.S.
either seems to me.

--
Later on,
Mike

[Busboy Jefe]

NK's "threats" towards the U.S. have about as much weight as, say, the
"threats" posted by certain people in this lil newsgroup. NK lacks the
ability to touch even Hawaii, let alone the mainland. I see the
bluster as little more than the cries of a baby. Again, kind if like
certain people in the newsgroup.

The only thing that concerns me is that the dopes in this country will
once again fall for some "NK is the new Iraq" bullshit -- because we
simply MUST have a boogeyman..you know, besides Obama -- and we find
ourselves once again playing World Cop, to the tune of untold
trillions.

El Jefe

[AJ]

On Apr 5, 4:10 pm, Busboy Jefe <busboyj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The only thing that concerns me is that the dopes in this country will
> once again fall for some "NK is the new Iraq" bullshit --

No, right now the weak minded are distracted with gay rights and if
they should or shouldn't be allowed to get married. Who's got time to
worry about other countries wanting to nuke us?

[83LowRider]

> No, right now the weak minded are distracted with gay rights and if
> they should or shouldn't be allowed to get married. Who's got time to
> worry about other countries wanting to nuke us?

Too true for too long. N Korea may not have capabilities
to reach mainland now, but they've been working on it for
years and freely continue to do so. They need a giant boot
up their ass and enough bombpower to set them back
<nuclear wise> another 50 years. Get that idiot fuck out
of office. Waste those generals, and let Korea become
one again. And as it has always been, it'll be up to us to
do it (if it should ever happen). That's the price ya pay
for being the USA.

[steveh99]

In article <d58f0e0d-20c0-47ae-b3dc-
ff3caa...@v8g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>, misfits...@aol.com
says...

Same rhetoric different day

[Busboy Jefe]

Actually, it's the weak-minded righties who can't see the writing on
the wall and are desperately trying to prevent the inevitable who are
distracted. That is, of course, when they're not worried about trying
to give fucking zygotes full rights. Once again you find yourselves on
the wrong side of history, but like petulant children, you just *can't
admit you lost the ball game*..

Back on topic: If you're actually worried about NK nuking us...you
need to get a grip. You think that fat fuck Kim-Jong-Un wants to
sacrifice his cushy lifestyle in what would amount to suicide/genocide
for his country? He would lose everything. We would not be the only
ones to respond to such an attempt. NK would be an ant, and the
response would be a boot.

Not gonna happen.

El Jefe

[Busboy Jefe]

On Apr 6, 7:36 pm, steveh99 <steve...@roadrunner.com> wrote:

> Same rhetoric different day

The funny thing is, gay marriage is only an issue *for righties*.
People with common sense know it's a done deal, genie's out of the
bottle. It is absolutely hilarious listening to the sticks in the mud
whine about how this will lead to bestiality and such.

As Jon Stewart said: What is it with you people and animal fucking?

El Jefe

[steveh99]

In article <6d8c771b-869b-4788-b04e-670bef5e8217
@i5g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, busbo...@gmail.com says...
>
> On Apr 6, 4:23ï¿œpm, AJ <misfitskiss...@aol.com> wrote:

I agree! NK, as well as Iran have always been about acting tough and
falling short in their threats. They know the U.S. wont take the troll
bait but are always ready to act when needed. And we will act should he
actually sign his own death decree. He enjoys that posh lifestyle too
much to give it up and thats precisely what he would be doing. He is a
fat assed idiot but he's not stupid

[steveh99]

In article <236d4f24-1e99-4805-b835-40c8e6aff747
@q6g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, busbo...@gmail.com says...

You know, between us I couldn't care less who gets married and who
doesn't.
Not my business to care anymore than it is anyone elses
. But it seems a lot of people here (the obvious ones) are more worried
about keeping gays from marrying, taking away womens right to choose
what they can do with their bodies, or doing away with birth control.
There are a lot of other things to worry about so go figure

[mss]

On Friday, April 5, 2013 4:10:51 PM UTC-5, Busboy Jefe wrote:

> The only thing that concerns me is that the dopes in this country will
> once again fall for some "NK is the new Iraq" bullshit -- because we
> simply MUST have a boogeyman..you know, besides Obama -- and we find
> ourselves once again playing World Cop, to the tune of untold
> trillions.
>
> El Jefe

Yeppers, very apt assessment Jefe - its not NK's hollow saber rattling,
its those here stateside that buy into it. See IMO, the thing is,
when reality is filtered through a vantage point that allows *ONLY*
a good vs. evil outcome, we get that cowboy syndrome whereby
fixes only come from the end of a barrel. The irony - America can
win wars all day long in, its the peace we should strive to win...

--
Later on,
Mike

[Da Blue Guy]

This is probably a pretty accurate assessment all the way around.

[83LowRider]

Busboy Jefe wrote:

> Actually, it's the weak-minded righties who can't see the writing on
> the wall and are desperately trying to prevent the inevitable who are
> distracted. That is, of course, when they're not worried about trying
> to give fucking zygotes full rights. Once again you find yourselves on
> the wrong side of history, but like petulant children, you just *can't
> admit you lost the ball game*..

So you're worrying about women here losing abortion rights,
while you'd ignore the estimated 175,000 in forced labor
camps in N Korea?

Is it only republicans who would like to snuff out N Korea?

Were we on the wrong side of history when we intervened
in WWI or II? What language would you have us speaking?

> Back on topic: If you're actually worried about NK nuking us...you
> need to get a grip. You think that fat fuck Kim-Jong-Un wants to
> sacrifice his cushy lifestyle in what would amount to suicide/genocide
> for his country? He would lose everything.

KJU isn't carrying any weight other than the obscene
amount his shoes are forced to endure. His aunt, uncle
and the other generals run that country. And very few
think he's going to set off a nuke. What they will likely
do is much the same as they've done before -- they'll
bomb or shoot some S Koreans... but I suppose that's
okay with you too. If Obama can justify intervention in
Egypt and Libya, if he can justify the troops kept in
Iraq or Afghanistan -- he should certainly be able to
justify bitchslapping N Korea. And unlike those other
countries -- there's no Muslim brotherhood lurking
in the background to take power.

> We would not be the only ones to respond to such
> an attempt. NK would be an ant, and the
> response would be a boot.

Who the fuck is going to take on N Korea, Iran,
or any other rogue country -- if not the US?

To overlook the human rights abuse going on in
N Korea is the equivalent of watching a 210 pound
drunk beat up on his 120 pound wife... and doing
nothing. So just continue to walk on, hopefully a real
man will come along soon and address the abuse.

[83LowRider]

steveh99 wrote:

> I agree! NK, as well as Iran have always been about
> acting tough and falling short in their threats.

You really are as stupid as you look, aren't you?

You have the entire world at your fingertips. Maybe
you should Google some shit... maybe start with
'Iran providing weapons to terrorists', or beheading
'da gayz, or stoning women to death. After that,
take a look at N Korea human rights abuse, or
how they killed 46 sailors a couple years ago. If
that isn't enough, look up the 70 homes they destroyed
in S Korea. You might also want to compare height
and weight of N Koreans vs their southern brethren.

> They know the U.S. wont take the troll
> bait but are always ready to act when needed.

Say what?

> And we will act should he actually sign his own death decree.

Vague bullshit.

> He enjoys that posh lifestyle too much to give it up
> and thats precisely what he would be doing.

That kid, much like yourself, hasn't got a single clue.
Also, like yourself, he controls nothing -- not even his
own weight. He (like you) just sits around eating
whatever the gov't decides to feed him. Keep'em
fat, keep'em happy. Seems familiar doesn't it?

> He is a fat assed idiot but he's not stupid.

And you're stupid, whether you're a fatass or not.

[83LowRider]

mss wrote:


> Yeppers, very apt assessment Jefe - its not NK's hollow saber
> rattling, its those here stateside that buy into it.

Hollow saber rattling? If YOU lived in S Korea and
half your family was in the North -- would you still
carry the same opinion? Is it saber rattling when
NK destroys 70 homes in the south? When they
sink boats and kill fishermen? When they ARE
advancing their nuclear program and threatening
to bomb us? Really? Is it saber rattling when
against the wishes of the entire world, they continue
to detonate and test nuclear weapons?

> when reality is filtered through a vantage point
> that allows *ONLY* a good vs. evil outcome,

Sometimes it really IS as simple as that. Sometimes
people like yourself think that a rational solution is
just floating out there, waiting to be implemented.
Would you have been one to say that Hitler should
have been sat down and given a strict lecture? There
have been THOUSANDS of evil rulers that simply
cannot be reasoned with. The gov't of N Korea is
obviously one of these. You think YOU want to see
some peace and harmony??? Maybe you should talk
to the starving people of NK, whose average height
is 2.5 to 3 inches shorter than their SK cousins. Maybe
you don't care about the almost 200 THOUSAND held
in political prison camps. YOU CANNOT REASON
with N Korea, or an Ayatollah, a Hitler or a Mao.
These people take control via FORCE. It's the only
thing they know or understand. Trying to use facts,
reason or pressure simply doesn't work. We've seen
this over and over throughout our worlds history.

> we get that cowboy syndrome whereby
> fixes only come from the end of a barrel. The irony - America can
> win wars all day long in, its the peace we should strive to win...

What the hell else can we do? We've tried that shit with
N Korea for decades. Please tell me what one tiny thing
we've ever gotten for our efforts..

[83LowRider]

steveh99 wrote:

> You know, between us I couldn't care less who
> gets married and who doesn't.

There is a difference between an opinion and
actually 'caring'. It's my opinion that marriage
should be between a man and a woman. That
is not to say that I truly care. It wouldn't be
'my way' of doing things, but I'll not lose a
wink of sleep over it should it happen.
Big difference.

> Not my business to care anymore than it is anyone elses
> . But it seems a lot of people here

Define a 'lot' of people....

> (the obvious ones) are more
> worried about keeping gays from marrying, taking away womens right to
> choose what they can do with their bodies, or doing away with birth
> control. There are a lot of other things to worry about so go figure

There isn't a woman in this country who can't find birth
control or an abortion if that is what she chooses.
Red herring.

[steveh99]

In article <kjsoo2$d7a$1...@dont-email.me>, 83low...@nywilldo.com says...

>
> steveh99 wrote:
>
> > You know, between us I couldn't care less who
> > gets married and who doesn't.
>
> There is a difference between an opinion and
> actually 'caring'. It's my opinion that marriage
> should be between a man and a woman. That
> is not to say that I truly care. It wouldn't be
> 'my way' of doing things, but I'll not lose a
> wink of sleep over it should it happen.
> Big difference.

I don't sit around worrying about shit people do that doesn't affect me
or my family. Its not for me or anyone else to judge who gets married
and who doesn't..
Live and let live!

> > Not my business to care anymore than it is anyone elses
> > . But it seems a lot of people here
>
> Define a 'lot' of people....
>
> > (the obvious ones) are more
> > worried about keeping gays from marrying, taking away womens right to
> > choose what they can do with their bodies, or doing away with birth
> > control. There are a lot of other things to worry about so go figure
>
> There isn't a woman in this country who can't find birth
> control or an abortion if that is what she chooses.
> Red herring.

The bigger issue is abortion. If abortion opponants get their way again
women will again be forced to undergo the same heinous procedures they
had to go through before roe vs wade. Then not only are the unborn
fetuses/embryos going to die but many of the mothers will die as well!
Nobody is going to stop women from getting abortions whether its legal
or not. The only exception will be is that there will be a lot of two
for one deaths as a result!

[83LowRider]

steveh99 wrote:

> I don't sit around worrying about shit people
> do that doesn't affect me or my family.

As a general rule -- that's the way it should be.

> Its not for me or anyone else to judge who gets
> married and who doesn't..

If you have an opinion on something, you've made
a judgement. We ALL judge things every day.
To 'not care' at all?.... is simply apathy.

I don't agree with gay marriage... that's a judgement
you or I personally make. No different than any
other issue that a person takes a stand on. Laws
are made, changed, ignored ---> every day. As
the song said, 'you gotta roll with the changes'.
Regardless of whether ya like'em or not. I ain't
carrying a sign either way.

[mss]

On Sunday, April 7, 2013 4:30:47 PM UTC-5, 83LowRider wrote:

> Hollow saber rattling? If YOU lived in S Korea and
> half your family was in the North -- would you still
> carry the same opinion? Is it saber rattling when
> NK destroys 70 homes in the south? When they
> sink boats and kill fishermen? When they ARE
> advancing their nuclear program and threatening
> to bomb us? Really? Is it saber rattling when
> against the wishes of the entire world, they continue
> to detonate and test nuclear weapons?

What me worry? Nah... after all the esteemed holy-man
Wayne Lapierre did prophecy unto me saying more guns
make us safer! Feel safer? No? Well then, build another
nuke, then by golly, when NK gets spooked in turn,
they'll build another too. Righty, problem all fixed.
Now get out there & shop for more ways to kill!

NK has yelped like this for decades quit putting fox news
in your coffee cup - if NK seriously (emphasis on *seriously*)
attempt to hurt us, or our allies, or our interests, they'll
have hell to pay. In the meantime chicken-little, the sky
- contrary to what your fair'n'balanced news source infers -
is still firmly bolted in place.

> Sometimes it really IS as simple as that. Sometimes
> people like yourself think that a rational solution is
> just floating out there, waiting to be implemented.

And just what type of 'self' have you 'decided' I be?
There are no easy rational solutions, you gotta work hard
at it 83. Just because its not 'simple' in no way implies
we ought to throw up our hands & say fuck it & bomb every
one who defies what you 'decide' gee-whiz dude.

> Would you have been one to say that Hitler should
> have been sat down and given a strict lecture? There
> have been THOUSANDS of evil rulers that simply
> cannot be reasoned with. The gov't of N Korea is
> obviously one of these.

Yes & hind-sight is great when attempting to make your point
~ahem~ retroactively. The fact *IS* the US stayed out of that
conflict as long as we reasonably could. Your grasp of history,
& thus your point, is a little off on WWII.

> You think YOU want to see some peace and harmony???

Don't christians as well?

- Blessed are the peace makers

- The meek shall inherit the earth

- Live by the sword, die by the sword

Please! Your rank hypocrisy is incredulous...

> Maybe you should talk to the starving people of NK,
> whose average height is 2.5 to 3 inches shorter than
> their SK cousins. Maybe you don't care about the almost
> 200 THOUSAND held in political prison camps.

Maybe I care about *this* country, maybe I *dont have a
need* to ride in, in a 'blaze of glory' & shoot everything
that moves. Maybe, just maybe, I've got my hands full
taking care of me & mine without jumping in every other
country's mix.

> YOU CANNOT REASON with N Korea, or an Ayatollah, a
> Hitler or a Mao.

Or you it would seem. Just ease up & sleep on it 83.

> These people take control via FORCE. It's the only
> thing they know or understand. Trying to use facts,
> reason or pressure simply doesn't work. We've seen
> this over and over throughout our worlds history.

Good grief. So in light of your statement above, by using
FORCE ourselves <grrr we're tough>, we're condemned to
repeat the self-same behavior you rail against.

See a pattern here folks?

--
Later on,
Mike

[AJ]

On Apr 7, 4:13 am, mss <bluelamp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeppers, very apt assessment Jefe - its not NK's hollow saber rattling,
> its those here stateside that buy into it.

Really? "Hey we are moving our missiles to nuke you. Here we are and
we're coming for you." You know, it's not like every year we have a
country actually move and point nukes at us and proclaim to the world
they have every intention to bomb us. Soooooo, you know, maybe some
of us here might want to pay attention. Plus, you might also want to
look up who their allies are.

[83LowRider]

mss wrote:


> NK has yelped like this for decades quit putting fox news
> in your coffee cup -

The only thing I see on Fox is The Simpsons or
Family Guy. No tv news for me anymore other than
an occasional morning show or my local news.

> if NK seriously (emphasis on *seriously*)

'Serious' is just opinion. It's serious to those
whose families HAVE been killed. And also
to those who fear BEING killed. It's 'serious'
enough that it's made worldwide headlines and
dominates the web today. It's serious enough
that we've moved ships and planes and jets
and all that other shit. It's serious enough when
ANYONE THREATENS your life.

> attempt to hurt us, or our allies, or our interests,

So we should always wait until a strike? Isn't that
what oh so many complained about Bush or Clinton -
that they had warnings? Many harp on the fact that
those two presidents had ample warning over OBL.

The deaths on the USS Cole --> 17.
Deaths from 2010 fishing boat attack --> 46.

What IS the number of deaths or injuries before
we can assume someone is "seriously" trying to
hurt us? When a countrys leaders say they will
nuke Guam or Hawaii, and they have a good track
record of doing what they say -- I see that as
pretty serious.

> they'll
> have hell to pay. In the meantime chicken-little, the sky
> - contrary to what your fair'n'balanced news source infers -
> is still firmly bolted in place.

To repeatedly claim my opinions come via FN is
silly. It's not only wrong but it only cheapens your reply.

>> Sometimes it really IS as simple as that. Sometimes
>> people like yourself think that a rational solution is
>> just floating out there, waiting to be implemented.
>
> And just what type of 'self' have you 'decided' I be?
> There are no easy rational solutions, you gotta work hard
> at it 83.

I think 20+ years of bi-lateral talks qualifies as doing
about all you can do. We've given concessions to
NK for decades and they always renig. ALWAYS.
I'm only let a man strike me so many times before
considering him 'serious' about it. You give many
theories about how we should struggle for peace;
yet you've not given one single example or action to
achieve this. Do you "seriously" think NK can be
made to sanely reason with us and that they will
hold to their promises?

> Just because its not 'simple' in no way implies
> we ought to throw up our hands & say fuck it & bomb every
> one who defies what you 'decide' gee-whiz dude.

I gave nothing more than an opinion, it's not
my decision to make. My bombing days are
long past. And fact is... I've not advocated for
wiping out/bombing anyone without good and just
cause. Obama gave aid to Libya and Egypt and
Syria. These countries had also suffered for
decades under tyrannical rule. NK citizens
suffer even worse. At some point, someone has
to make the call, someone has to take action.

>> Would you have been one to say that Hitler should
>> have been sat down and given a strict lecture? There
>> have been THOUSANDS of evil rulers that simply
>> cannot be reasoned with. The gov't of N Korea is
>> obviously one of these.
>
> Yes & hind-sight is great when attempting to make your point
> ~ahem~ retroactively. The fact *IS* the US stayed out of that
> conflict as long as we reasonably could. Your grasp of history,
> & thus your point, is a little off on WWII.

Yes, we held back for a few years. And in the case
of NK, we've held back for over 50. Had the public
had internet and instant news back in the early '40s
it's likely we would have joined in much earlier. You
know what changed much public opinion in Vietnam?
It was the pictures of the naked girl running down the
street napalmed. It was the images and coverage.
When human travesty is brought inside your home
via all those glossy pictures and live shots, people are
far more affected.

>> You think YOU want to see some peace and harmony???
>
> Don't christians as well?

Certainly. No one wants to see innocents die.
But there is a weight scale in life. How many
have died under a Mao or a Saddam or a
Hitler before action was taken? Apparently
Hitler had to kill millions before we decided to
take join in. What is the acceptable N Korean
death toll? Do they have to kill a certain number
of their citizens before we bomb Pyongyang
and kill a few ourselves?

> - Blessed are the peace makers

Indeed!!! And you know how peace is usually
made? Peace is made usually via force.
You name me 5 instances where peace
has been made thru detente, I'll give you
20 where it took force. And if you COULD
come up with 5 instances -- chances are that
so many people had died already, that is how
they negotiated peace. Our civil war is an
example, Viet Nam is an example. Korea
(before the split) is also an example.

> - The meek shall inherit the earth

Not until the Hitlers and Mussolinis have
been wiped out they won't.

> - Live by the sword, die by the sword

Yes!!! But your mistake comes because you're
looking at the wrong end. Those who have taken
or keep power - by force - are usually destined to
be stopped only by the same means. The USA isn't
the one waving the sword here... it's NK. Our country
doesn't threaten to wipe out anyone. A sword/weapon
has two uses --> attack or defense. I don't consider
defensive swordplay as 'living by the sword'. YMMV.

> Please! Your rank hypocrisy is incredulous...
>
>> Maybe you should talk to the starving people of NK,
>> whose average height is 2.5 to 3 inches shorter than
>> their SK cousins. Maybe you don't care about the almost
>> 200 THOUSAND held in political prison camps.
>
> Maybe I care about *this* country, maybe I *dont have a
> need* to ride in, in a 'blaze of glory' & shoot everything
> that moves. Maybe, just maybe, I've got my hands full
> taking care of me & mine without jumping in every other
> country's mix.

It used to be enough to care only about ourselves.
That is not the world we live in any more. Your local
area has a sheriff or constable. On a larger scale you
have state police and militia. Larger still is federal agents
and armies. We are now the worlds police. It isn't a job
we necessarily wanted... but it's ours. And fact is, someone
has to do it and we're the only ones capable.

>> YOU CANNOT REASON with N Korea, or an Ayatollah, a
>> Hitler or a Mao.
>
> Or you it would seem. Just ease up & sleep on it 83.

Ease up? The only part I take is typing words on a screen.
I've slept on my opinions for 55 years. And again, it's my
opinion that we shouldn't let another country murder and
imprison its own citizens. It's my opinion that when a batshit
crazy country says they will cause us harm, that we shouldn't
take it lightly. Apparently our greatest minds in DC think
the same thing as they're preparing in every possible way.

>> These people take control via FORCE. It's the only
>> thing they know or understand. Trying to use facts,
>> reason or pressure simply doesn't work. We've seen
>> this over and over throughout our worlds history.
>
> Good grief. So in light of your statement above, by using
> FORCE ourselves <grrr we're tough>, we're condemned to
> repeat the self-same behavior you rail against.

> See a pattern here folks?

The pattern is very simple. Despotic countries use
force and terror to keep power. OTOH, we use force
to liberate.... not to enslave. If you can't grasp the
difference in that then you and I will never find common
ground on the subject. Did we take any lands from
Viet Nam or Germany or anywhere else? Did we impose
martial law in any country we've beaten down? No.
You've made a ton of flower power statements, but you've
not offered one single viable alternative...
See a pattern here?

[AJ]

On Apr 6, 8:20 pm, Busboy Jefe <busboyj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 6, 7:36 pm, steveh99 <steve...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
> > Same rhetoric different day
>
> The funny thing is, gay marriage is only an issue *for righties*.

So you actually think there are no liberal Christians that are against
gay marriage? You probably do believe that. Carry on. Enlighten us
some more with your brilliance.

[FVH]

Only someone who lives in irrational fear would take anything North
Korea says seriously. If you know anything about that country and its
military you would do nothing but laugh at them. Of course, you're
probably stocking up on canned goods. LOL!

Hi, Killer! Hope you enjoyed reading this post!
FVH
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wrights a review of the new album the week it comes out. LOL!-
Professor AJ
Yes I know that and I know they gained that power under Obama's
watch.-Professor AJ on China's nukes.
This was passed in 2008 under Obama.- AJ, political guru
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was
going to call his solo boxset.-AJ, KISS "expert"
Laughter is an emotion-Professor AJ Johnson, channeling his feminine
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I love how people like you consternate so much time and effort-
Professor AJ Johnson.
10 years ago your posts were better written and your grammar was
better than what they are now.-AJ.
Pssst. Obama has been president for 7 years and you suck at math.-AJ,
2009
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chaump, AJ.
McCain wins 2008 Election.This is what will be printed on every
newspaper next week. Wait and see.-AJ, proving that he's an idiot.
our new commander and chief.- AJ, talking politics.
Stadiums have no walls!- AJ
*Geeks with key boards aren't intimidating.-AJ
You made a boneheaded 'observation' about Ace, and you're a fool.
That's pretty much it.- Hidell, making a brilliant point about AJ.
Twinkle Toes Stanley hadn't quite picked up that Lick It Up/
Heaven's On Fire half a ballerina dance that he does.- db
How many times can the Greed Twins milk a cow? As many times as the
sheep will let them.-db

[FVH]

You should be happy that your kind is being accepted in society
nowadays, fat faggot.

On Apr 6, 4:23 pm, AJ <misfitskiss...@aol.com> wrote:

[FVH]

Why am I not surprised Killer fears a fart in the wind like North
Korea?

[FVH]

Hey, dummy, North Korea is all talk--much like you. Fitting that you
would take their bait. Quit living in fear and trust your military
that has way too much funding.

[steveh99]

In article <21e726cd-7ff5-4822-8c34-
c87719...@k4g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, misfits...@aol.com
says...
>
> On Apr 6, 8:20ï¿œpm, Busboy Jefe <busboyj...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > On Apr 6, 7:36ï¿œpm, steveh99 <steve...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Same rhetoric different day
> >
> > The funny thing is, gay marriage is only an issue *for righties*.
>
>
> So you actually think there are no liberal Christians that are against
> gay marriage? You probably do believe that. Carry on. Enlighten us
> some more with your brilliance.

The point he made was only people like you care

[mss]

On Monday, April 8, 2013 12:31:51 PM UTC-5, AJ wrote:

> Really? "Hey we are moving our missiles to nuke you. Here we are and
> we're coming for you." You know, it's not like every year we have a
> country actually move and point nukes at us and proclaim to the world
> they have every intention to bomb us. Soooooo, you know, maybe some
> of us here might want to pay attention. Plus, you might also want to
> look up who their allies are.

AJ pull your head out, I know you're more intelligent than to fall
for rhetoric. To be sure, over the last decade, NK has time & again
acted up. In response the U.S. flexed its own might. Google these
two terms:

- Foal Eagle

- Key Resolve

Sorta our way of letting NK know who's in charge. Because of that,
NK is attempting to show the west it can *act* like a bad-ass too,
only we know they can't. See?

--
Later on,
Mike

[mss]

On Monday, April 8, 2013 12:32:59 PM UTC-5, 83LowRider wrote:

> The pattern is very simple. Despotic countries use
> force and terror to keep power. OTOH, we use force
> to liberate.... not to enslave. If you can't grasp the
> difference in that then you and I will never find common
> ground on the subject. Did we take any lands from
> Viet Nam or Germany or anywhere else? Did we impose
> martial law in any country we've beaten down? No.
> You've made a ton of flower power statements, but you've
> not offered one single viable alternative...
>
> See a pattern here?

The 'viable alternative' is in place now, you refuse to open
your eyes. Will you let NK 3rd grade lip service spook you?

You bomb'em all you want in your mind. Reality however, says the
U.S. will simply continue to isolate them for childish behavior.
Why? Because we offer support in the south & those in the north want
it as well & their only bargaining chip is by via throwing fits
(a sign the tactic is working). Be prepared for a long stand-off,
ie nothing much will happen.

Bottom line: When force is necessary we'll use it, till then don't
get so shook up.

I don't know what else to say, its the truth honestly man.

--
Later on,
Mike

[83LowRider]

mss wrote:

> The 'viable alternative' is in place now, you refuse to open
> your eyes. Will you let NK 3rd grade lip service spook you?

No, I'm not spooked in the least. They sure as hell
can't get a nuclear warhead (AFAIK) to east TN.

There was nothing in any of my statements showing
personal fear. And truthfully, I don't really fear for
anyone (as of yet) in Hawaii or Guam either. But this
country has a history of helping the weak overcome
their oppresors. I'm proud of that fact. I'm proud we
have this huge and completely volunteer army of men
and women willing to put their lives on the line for
those less fortunate than we are here in the US.
To turn a blind eye to torture and murder, happening
on a daily basis ---- is just simply wrong. IMO.
The more liberal of those here like to espouse that
we, our gov't, help our citizens in need. Do you not see
it, even in here? They want to give out food stamps to
fat people, health care to smokers and drinkers and
all the rest... but what about those who are REALLY
in need? Those 200,000 in slave camps? The entire
population that is under height and underweight... It's
very ironic to me, the ones truly suffering in this world
are getting no help from us whatsoever.

> You bomb'em all you want in your mind. Reality however, says the
> U.S. will simply continue to isolate them for childish behavior.

Correct. And what has that gotten us with NK or Iran?
Not a damn thing. Their tactics do nothing more than allow
them time to refine their 'big bombs'. With NK, maybe it's
just all bluster, tho they have pounded their chests far too
long and hard not to do something. They ALWAYS do
something. With Iran, that bomb technology IS in the
works and I have little doubt that they WILL be willing
to use it.

> Why? Because we offer support in the south & those in the north want
> it as well & their only bargaining chip is by via throwing fits
> (a sign the tactic is working). Be prepared for a long stand-off,
> ie nothing much will happen.

Okay then, nothing much will happen. Maybe they'll only
kill 70-80 people again this time around. Is that acceptable?
I really want to know if there is a magic number somewhere
I'm not aware of. Is it acceptable that every time this shit
happens that world markets go to shit? Is it acceptable
as long as someone YOU love isn't involved? Those 70-80
dead people -- THEIR loved ones certainly don't find it
acceptable.

> Bottom line: When force is necessary we'll use it, till then don't
> get so shook up.

I'm barely stirred, certainly not shaken.
And sometimes, our hesitancy is the worst thing
possible. Not only does it allow for a much higher
death count, it allows our targets to become much
better prepared. If ANY bad thing is inevitable,
we're far better off to address it early. I cannot think
of a single exception to this rule.

One last thing... mention was made of NK dominating
headlines. There are no less than a dozen stories on
my homepage. Japan has put Patriot missiles on their
streets... so I guess they're taking it pretty seriously.
China has finally had enough, they're taking it pretty
seriously too. With 13,000 missiles pointed at South
Korea, you can damn well bet THEY are sure taking
it serious. And if your children lived there, you would
be too. There is NO ONE in the NK gov't that is sane
apparently. Do you really think they can be reasoned
with? Even if all they want is more concessions (money
and food), do you not think they'll continue their nuclear
work? or that maybe when perfected, that they actually
WILL shoot off a nuke? Can we afford that chance?

[mss]

On Tuesday, April 9, 2013 11:44:22 AM UTC-5, 83LowRider wrote:

> There was nothing in any of my statements showing
> personal fear. And truthfully, I don't really fear for
> anyone (as of yet) in Hawaii or Guam either. But this
> country has a history of helping the weak overcome
> their oppresors. I'm proud of that fact. I'm proud we
> have this huge and completely volunteer army of men
> and women willing to put their lives on the line for
> those less fortunate than we are here in the US.
> To turn a blind eye to torture and murder, happening
> on a daily basis ---- is just simply wrong. IMO.

Well put, I hear ya 83. Nothing wrong with that, certainly
I sense your humility/humanity, its a noble thing. Problem
is (well one problem) we cant afford to help every one.
We have to pick & choose our battles & those tend to be
the ones the most beneficial for our society. Pretty much
the same the world over, but once politics/religion/etc...
get tossed in along the way & then we end up with a mess.

> The more liberal of those here like to espouse that
> we, our gov't, help our citizens in need. Do you not see
> it, even in here? They want to give out food stamps to
> fat people, health care to smokers and drinkers and
> all the rest... but what about those who are REALLY
> in need? Those 200,000 in slave camps? The entire
> population that is under height and underweight... It's
> very ironic to me, the ones truly suffering in this world
> are getting no help from us whatsoever.

But how can we help others when helping ourselves (or at least
agreeing with one another) seems such an impossible task? I mean,
the only reason we're helping most other countries is to make
our own way of life easier, no one really cares otherwise seems
to me. And well, maybe I'm exposing myself to say this, but that
sorta makes me feel crummy inside to know that we as humans are
really rather shallow - 'I'll help as long as you gimme something'.

> Correct. And what has that gotten us with NK or Iran?
> Not a damn thing. Their tactics do nothing more than allow
> them time to refine their 'big bombs'. With NK, maybe it's
> just all bluster, tho they have pounded their chests far too
> long and hard not to do something. They ALWAYS do
> something. With Iran, that bomb technology IS in the
> works and I have little doubt that they WILL be willing
> to use it.

No one wants to fight, we'd rather have peace. But if push
comes to shove, of this I'm sure, Iran plays a foolish game,
they'll be smacked down, its only a matter of time on that
issue I'm sure we'd agree.

> Okay then, nothing much will happen. Maybe they'll only
> kill 70-80 people again this time around. Is that acceptable?

Is a greater amount killed daily due to violence (domestic/racial/guns,etc...)
here in America acceptable?

Maybe the best we can do is to look after ourselves (while ever
at the ready to defend ourselves from other nations of course).

> I really want to know if there is a magic number somewhere
> I'm not aware of. Is it acceptable that every time this shit
> happens that world markets go to shit? Is it acceptable
> as long as someone YOU love isn't involved? Those 70-80
> dead people -- THEIR loved ones certainly don't find it
> acceptable.

I wont argue this, you're right - it sucks. As the top species
on the planet, we're often not doing such a great job of managing
things are we?

> I'm barely stirred, certainly not shaken.
> And sometimes, our hesitancy is the worst thing
> possible. Not only does it allow for a much higher
> death count, it allows our targets to become much
> better prepared. If ANY bad thing is inevitable,
> we're far better off to address it early. I cannot think
> of a single exception to this rule.

A certain logic there, ie - better to stop a criminal in the
yard *before* he's in the house. But again, we don't have that
at least not yet from NK. And don't forget, your thinking could
be NK's thinking as well ie - they have missiles aimed them too...

> One last thing... mention was made of NK dominating
> headlines. There are no less than a dozen stories on
> my homepage. Japan has put Patriot missiles on their
> streets... so I guess they're taking it pretty seriously.
> China has finally had enough, they're taking it pretty
> seriously too. With 13,000 missiles pointed at South
> Korea, you can damn well bet THEY are sure taking
> it serious. And if your children lived there, you would
> be too. There is NO ONE in the NK gov't that is sane
> apparently. Do you really think they can be reasoned
> with? Even if all they want is more concessions (money
> and food), do you not think they'll continue their nuclear
> work? or that maybe when perfected, that they actually
> WILL shoot off a nuke? Can we afford that chance?

I'm guessing they'll lob a missile into the pacific in a show
of feigned might (the Orientals are weird about that shit,
scream & yell, otherwise don't have much to say, odd really).
China? Now their involvement could screw us all... America is not
prepared to wage a decade(s?) long battle on their turf, we don't
have the resolve IMO.

Truth is, I dunno ya'know? Not saying anything you've written is
wrong, just hoping cooler heads would prevail I guess.

--
Later on,
Mike

[AJ]

On Apr 8, 9:59 pm, steveh99 <steve...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> In article <21e726cd-7ff5-4822-8c34-
> c87719842...@k4g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, misfitskiss...@aol.com
> says...
>
>
>
> > On Apr 6, 8:20 pm, Busboy Jefe <busboyj...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > On Apr 6, 7:36 pm, steveh99 <steve...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Same rhetoric different day
>
> > > The funny thing is, gay marriage is only an issue *for righties*.
>
> > So you actually think there are no liberal Christians that are against
> > gay marriage?  You probably do believe that. Carry on.  Enlighten us
> > some more with your brilliance.
>
> The point he made was only people like you care

Although I corrected him to point out even those that aren't like we
do care. Hmmmm, so now you've belittled yourself by sucking on his
teet just to flame me? Sounds about right.

[AJ]

On Apr 9, 10:15 am, mss <bluelamp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The 'viable alternative' is in place now, you refuse to open
> your eyes. Will you let NK 3rd grade lip service spook you?

I don't think he, I, or anyone else here is personally "spooked." I
think he, I, and maybe a few other decent people are more concerned
over the possible deaths of innocent people and maybe some of our
American troops if the shit hits the fan. AND that is one thing you
can search this thread for and won't see one single liberal/Obama
voter even remotely taking into consideration. This topic, like all
topics, is just another carefree/careless topic that doesn't matter
because it isn't happening in their backyard and whatever happens,
someone else will pay for it.

[Busboy Jefe]

On Apr 8, 3:53 pm, AJ <misfitskiss...@aol.com> wrote:

> So you actually think there are no liberal Christians that are against
> gay marriage?  You probably do believe that. Carry on.  Enlighten us
> some more with your brilliance.

The term "liberal christian" is an oxymoron. In my experience such
people do not look to the bible to form their views and reject
anything that smells the least bit like fundamentalism, and as such
are not likely to find homosexuality the abomination that they're
"supposed" to. I certainly haven't seen throngs of such people
protesting gay marriage. Have you? Is it really an "issue"for them?

Of course, as usual, you provide no factual numbers to back your
pathetic attempt at a point. So why don't *you* enlighten us with your
brilliance, Professor. Demonstrate the vast numbers of "liberal
christians" who vehemently oppose gay marriage. And then let's compare
those numbers to the righties/conservatives that do.

Or you can just save time and concede that you're wrong once again.

El Jefe

[Busboy Jefe]

On Apr 8, 5:19 pm, FVH <jarjo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Only someone who lives in irrational fear would take anything North
> Korea says seriously. If you know anything about that country and its
> military you would do nothing but laugh at them. Of course, you're
> probably stocking up on canned goods. LOL!

Butbutbut -- they THREATENED us! And you should know from personal
experience how terrifying it is to have someone threaten you when the
reality is they have no way to reach you!

Do you think Kim stalks Obama's Twitter feed looking for clues?

El Jefe

[AJ]

Been there done that and Google it. I even posted a video of Obama
himself saying gay marriage goes against his Christian beliefs and
Obama himself said it's not a civil right. So again, "it's not only
the righties" like you claimed.

[AJ]

On Apr 9, 3:37 pm, Busboy Jefe <busboyj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Butbutbut -- they THREATENED us! And you should know from personal
> experience how terrifying it is to have someone threaten you when the
> reality is they have no way to reach you!
>
> Do you think Kim stalks Obama's Twitter feed looking for clues?
>
> El Jefe

Butbutbut neither of you or him will post your real address. Class
dismissed.

[83LowRider]

mss wrote:

> Well put, I hear ya 83. Nothing wrong with that, certainly
> I sense your humility/humanity, its a noble thing. Problem
> is (well one problem) we cant afford to help every one.

You're right, we can't help everyone. As that is a
sad fact, we must pick and choose.

SKorea is an allied country, we have a treaty and
we have troops there.

SKorea is a strong trading partner, a strong economy,
and is ruled in a democratic manner.

NKorea has nukes and a dictator.

Compare that to our helping Egypt, Libya and Iraq.
Those things I listed do NOT apply to the last
3 countries I mentioned. We did what we did in
those three countries knowing full well an equally
bad (or worse) group would come in and take over.
If there is ANY country suffering oppression that
deserves our help, Korea would be near the top of
the list for the reasons I mentioned above. That being
said, I'd hope that even if we do act, that US boots
would not hit the soil of NK.

> We have to pick & choose our battles & those tend to be
> the ones the most beneficial for our society. Pretty much
> the same the world over, but once politics/religion/etc...
> get tossed in along the way & then we end up with a mess.

Politics and religion were heavily into play in those
3 countries I mentioned. Not so much with Korea.
There is no political agenda (ours) for doing what is
right in NK. There is no religious group waiting to
take power in NK. This is pure humanitarianism.
It's simply doing what is right.

> But how can we help others when helping ourselves (or at least
> agreeing with one another) seems such an impossible task? I mean,
> the only reason we're helping most other countries is to make
> our own way of life easier, no one really cares otherwise seems
> to me. And well, maybe I'm exposing myself to say this, but that
> sorta makes me feel crummy inside to know that we as humans are
> really rather shallow - 'I'll help as long as you gimme something'.

> No one wants to fight, we'd rather have peace. But if push
> comes to shove, of this I'm sure, Iran plays a foolish game,
> they'll be smacked down, its only a matter of time on that
> issue I'm sure we'd agree.

We didn't put the smackdown on Pakistan, now we
kiss their ass to insure the safety of their nukes.

Far too often, we step in too late rather than too
early.

>> Okay then, nothing much will happen. Maybe they'll only
>> kill 70-80 people again this time around. Is that acceptable?
>
> Is a greater amount killed daily due to violence
> (domestic/racial/guns,etc...) here in America acceptable?

Crimes happen in every country. It's a seperate issue.

When Chicago is having record numbers of murder, it
should be on Chicago and/or Illinois to take action.
Here in TN we have constables, local sheriffs, local
police and state police. Where do you turn if you live
in NKorea?

> Maybe the best we can do is to look after ourselves (while ever
> at the ready to defend ourselves from other nations of course).
>
>> I really want to know if there is a magic number somewhere
>> I'm not aware of. Is it acceptable that every time this shit
>> happens that world markets go to shit? Is it acceptable
>> as long as someone YOU love isn't involved? Those 70-80
>> dead people -- THEIR loved ones certainly don't find it
>> acceptable.
>
> I wont argue this, you're right - it sucks. As the top species
> on the planet, we're often not doing such a great job of managing
> things are we?

Sometimes yes, sometimes -- not so much.
It gives me pride to see that human rights
(the mid-eastern countries aside) are
being recognized more and more. And that
is worldwide, not just here in the US. There
was quite a crowd to protest Putin this week
in the Netherlands. SKorea is a great example
of human rights and capitalism and all that shit.
Despite any bitching done on my part, I've seen
great advances across the globe in my half (+)
century.

>> I'm barely stirred, certainly not shaken.
>> And sometimes, our hesitancy is the worst thing
>> possible. Not only does it allow for a much higher
>> death count, it allows our targets to become much
>> better prepared. If ANY bad thing is inevitable,
>> we're far better off to address it early. I cannot think
>> of a single exception to this rule.
>
> A certain logic there, ie - better to stop a criminal in the
> yard *before* he's in the house. But again, we don't have that
> at least not yet from NK. And don't forget, your thinking could
> be NK's thinking as well ie - they have missiles aimed them too...

> I'm guessing they'll lob a missile into the pacific in a show
> of feigned might (the Orientals are weird about that shit,
> scream & yell, otherwise don't have much to say, odd really).
> China? Now their involvement could screw us all... America is not
> prepared to wage a decade(s?) long battle on their turf, we don't
> have the resolve IMO.

The last thing the US wants is a showdown with China.
But even China is 'coming along'... and as their people
get more and more a taste of freedom, a taste of living
middle class (or better), chances are they will advance
in the human rights category as well. Nothing brings in
democracy like a good'ol taste of capitalism.

[Busboy Jefe]

On Apr 7, 4:02 pm, "83LowRider" <83lowri...@nywilldo.com> wrote:

> So you're worrying about women here losing abortion rights,
> while you'd ignore the estimated 175,000 in forced labor
> camps in N Korea?

Is that what this about for you and the right? Labor camps? Funny how
that's just come up....because all I hear is "He threatened us -- we
gotta show him who has the bigger dick!"

It's endlessly fascinating to me how those who fellate everything
about America will claim concern about the people in other countries
while being perfectly fine with the people in THIS country seeing
rights challenged, safety nets threatened.

In an ideal world, I'd see ALL people suffering relieved of it...but
that's not going to happen, and you'd drive yourself crazy fretting
over every wrong being committed around the globe. So yes, I tend to
focus on my own backyard first and foremost. Plus it has that added
benefit of not making us look like hypocrites when we do play World
Cop...putting aside that we can't even police *ourselves* at this
point.

> Were we on the wrong side of history when we intervened
> in WWI or II? What language would you have us speaking?

This makes no sense, seeing as I wasn't referring to war. But since
you brought it up...interesting that you have to go all the way back
to WW2. Our track record since then hasn't been too good, huh?

I absolutely loved hearing/reading all of the mea culpas re: Iraq when
the 10 year anniversary came around, especially from our "liberal
media". Still think history will judge that excursion as anything more
than a huge blunder?

> KJU isn't carrying any weight other than the obscene
> amount his shoes are forced to endure. His aunt, uncle
> and the other generals run that country. And very few
> think he's going to set off a nuke. What they will likely
> do is much the same as they've done before -- they'll
> bomb or shoot some S Koreans... but I suppose that's
> okay with you too. If Obama can justify intervention in
> Egypt and Libya, if he can justify the troops kept in
> Iraq or Afghanistan -- he should certainly be able to
> justify bitchslapping N Korea. And unlike those other
> countries -- there's no Muslim brotherhood lurking
> in the background to take power.

IF this more than just the latest round of sabre-rattling -- aka we
give them some $ and/or food, and they back off again...IF they truly
want a fight this time? Then I'm all for Obama using those drones (the
ones the right love or hate depending on the political points they can
score with a particular stance) to take out the leadership. Surgical
strike.

IF. I'm still not convinced this is anything more than the latest
round of bluster. We cannot afford to make a short-sighted move akin
to 10 years ago....not that THAT excursion was ever about defense.

> Who the fuck is going to take on N Korea, Iran,
> or any other rogue country -- if not the US?

Are you truly naive enough to believe that if NK went the nuke route,
NO ONE else would step up?

> To overlook the human rights abuse going on in
> N Korea is the equivalent of watching a 210 pound
> drunk beat up on his 120 pound wife... and doing
> nothing. So just continue to walk on, hopefully a real
> man will come along soon and address the abuse.

Sure, because we can easily compare,say, one guy interfering with
another guy's wife beating and putting a stop to it with starting yet
another war in a country.

Again, I love the selective concern about human rights abuse. Where
was this concern 10 years ago? 5? This stuff's been going on since,
what, 1948...NOW we simply must go in with our dick swingin'? That's
what a "real man" does, right?

Not buying it at all.

El Jefe

[Busboy Jefe]

On Apr 7, 4:30 pm, "83LowRider" <83lowri...@nywilldo.com> wrote:
> These people take control via FORCE. It's the only
> thing they know or understand.

I'm just going to quote this, sit back, and admire the irony.

=)

El Jefe

[Busboy Jefe]

On Apr 7, 4:35 pm, "83LowRider" <83lowri...@nywilldo.com> wrote:

> There isn't a woman in this country who can't find birth
> control or an abortion if that is what she chooses.
> Red herring.

How is it a red herring when the right is constantly introducing/
passing legislation that curtails abortion rights? Is the Sanctity of
Human Life Act a mirage? It died once, but like Zombie Jesus rose
again! Shall I once again list all of the attempts made at diminishing/
eliminating abortion?

Just because you close your eyes to reality doesn't mean it's not
happening. Steve was absolutely correct that the right worries about
this shit. They prove it ALL THE TIME. The only red herring here is
your attempt to twist what he said into him saying women can't get
abortions.

El Jefe

[Busboy Jefe]

On Apr 8, 5:11 am, mss <bluelamp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Maybe, just maybe, I've got my hands full
> taking care of me & mine without jumping in every other
> country's mix.

The funny thing is that so-called conservatives use this same
reasoning when railing against taking care of people in *their own
country*.

BUT they wring their hands at the thought of a short North Korean
suffering. Unzip those pants, boys, we've got dicks to swing!

El Jefe

[Busboy Jefe]

On Apr 8, 5:21 pm, FVH <jarjo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why am I not surprised Killer fears a fart in the wind like North
> Korea?

You know, it's *possible* that this isn't just bluster. But a lot of
things are possible, so you have to consider how likely they are.

After 50 years of this dog and pony show, I simply can't feel a
"threat" from NK at all. It goes without saying that if I were in
Seoul or Japan, I'd feel differently. But I'm not.

And again I note, the people most worried about attacks live in places
that no one would ever target. The only nuke attack Richlands Record
Exchange has to worry about will come from Deep Dish's bowel.

El Jefe

[Busboy Jefe]

On Apr 9, 10:08 am, mss <bluelamp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> AJ pull your head out, I know you're more intelligent than to fall
> for rhetoric.

I don't think he is. I really don't. People like him thrive on having
"enemies" and feeling threatened.

NK is just his latest version of the kids who beat his ass for wearing
Kiss shirts, something he's never gotten past.

El Jefe

[AJ]

That's because people like you ignore some of the abortions that goes
on today. Like some of the abortions that are later in a woman's term
when the baby is healthy and could have lived. This is reality you and
other liberal minded fools close their eyes to.

[AJ]

On Apr 9, 5:01 pm, Busboy Jefe <busboyj...@gmail.com> wrote:

> It's endlessly fascinating to me how those who fellate everything
> about America will claim concern about the people in other countries
> while being perfectly fine with the people in THIS country seeing
> rights challenged, safety nets threatened.

Jobs, the economy, coal, guns, ammo, you know, things you try to
twist and shed a positive light on Obama for? Shut the fuck up kid.
You belittle everything great about this country and even God above.
You live in fucking Vegas. A town that allows things that are usually
illegal everywhere else. You got nothing to fucking complain about.

[AJ]

Well in the last 50 years NK weren't this much advanced. Plus, up
until now, America had real leaders that knew how to handle situations
like this. I'm surprised Obama hasn't apologized and surrendered to
NK yet.

[AJ]

Yet, I'm probably the only one here who actually served and has been
in combat. BTW, I started this trap, er I mean thread and only asked
if anyone here took this threat from NK serious. My goal, was to
watch the liberals here go ape shit because the NG was dead. Mission
accomplished. You never fail. No wonder Obama has people like you
eating out of the palm of his hand.

[83LowRider]

Busboy Jefe wrote:

> After 50 years of this dog and pony show, I simply can't feel a
> "threat" from NK at all. It goes without saying that if I were in
> Seoul or Japan, I'd feel differently. But I'm not.

It's nothing more to us here than a topic of discussion.
No one here has ever said we're likely to die of a
nuclear attack from NK or Iran in the near future.
No one has built a bomb shelter AFAIK, and you
certainly WOULD feel different about things if
you were living in Seoul or Japan. Or Israel or
Syria or any of the other places Americans will not
travel to anymore. Egypt was a huge travel destination
a couple years ago... wonder how their economy is
doing now?

People should not have to live in fear.
Not here, not anywhere.
Period.

[Busboy Jefe]

On Apr 9, 11:44 am, "83LowRider" <83lowri...@nywilldo.com> wrote:
> I'm proud we
> have this huge and completely volunteer army of men
> and women willing to put their lives on the line for
> those less fortunate than we are here in the US.

This is a very glossed over and cherry-picked version of what they do.
And if only it were all as surgically clean as you'd portray...we go
in, we liberate, we leave.

If only.

> To turn a blind eye to torture and murder, happening
> on a daily basis ---- is just simply wrong. IMO.

We lost the high moral ground on torture when we gave it a thumbs up
during Iraq.

> The more liberal of those here like to espouse that
> we, our gov't, help our citizens in need. Do you not see
> it, even in here? They want to give out food stamps to
> fat people, health care to smokers and drinkers and
> all the rest... but what about those who are REALLY
> in need?

Ah, so...YOU decide who's really in need? Nice generalizations, by the
way. Yeah, it's all fat fucks on food stamps and smokers looking for
health care.

Meanwhile, the right bitches when Michelle Obama tried to help kids
eat healthier. "She's taking our cookies away!"

> Those 200,000 in slave camps? The entire
> population that is under height and underweight... It's
> very ironic to me,  the ones truly suffering in this world
> are getting no help from us whatsoever.

We spend 1% of the fed budget on foreign aid.

We spend 20% on the military, in part bombing countries that we then
spend money on to aid.

See a pattern here? We're Tony Soprano, beating the tar out of someone
and then offering to pay the hospital bill afterwards.

Maybe if we took some of that military money and put it towards, ya
know, just aid?

Crazy, I know...

>With Iran, that bomb technology IS in the
> works and I have little doubt that they WILL be willing
> to use it.

Why? What level of irrationality have they demonstrated that would
lead you to be utterly convinced of their desire to commit suicide?

Or is that we would no longer be able to impose our will? If you have
a gun, you don't want the other guy to have one too, right?

> One last thing... mention was made of NK dominating
> headlines. There are no less than a dozen stories on
> my homepage. Japan has put Patriot missiles on their
> streets... so I guess they're taking it pretty seriously.
> China has finally had enough, they're taking it pretty
> seriously too. With 13,000 missiles pointed at South
> Korea, you can damn well bet THEY are sure taking
> it serious. And if your children lived there, you would
> be too. There is NO ONE in the NK gov't that is sane
> apparently. Do you really think they can be reasoned
> with? Even if all they want is more concessions (money
> and food), do you not think they'll continue their nuclear
> work? or that maybe when perfected, that they actually
> WILL shoot off a nuke? Can we afford that chance?

Sounds like the same rhetoric from 10 years ago to me. Mushroom cloud,
smoking gun.

El Jefe

[Busboy Jefe]

On Apr 9, 4:51 pm, AJ <misfitskiss...@aol.com> wrote:

> Been there done that and Google it.  I even posted a video of Obama
> himself saying gay marriage goes against his Christian beliefs and
> Obama himself said it's not a civil right.  So again, "it's not only
> the righties" like you claimed.

Yet he turned around and came out in support of it ( more than likely
as a political move, but nevertheless), and is not actively attempting
to prevent it from happening. So it would seem it's not at all an
*issue* for him.

Now where are all of those factual accounts of "liberal christians"
who actively opposing gay marriage? Don't have any? Not surprised.

Class dismissed.

El Jefe

[Busboy Jefe]

On Apr 9, 4:53 pm, AJ <misfitskiss...@aol.com> wrote:

> Butbutbut neither of you or him will post your real address. Class
> dismissed.

You haven't posted yours either. Sorry, business addresses don't
count.

Of course, why anyone would feel a need to do so as a demonstration is
beyond me...I guess it's an Internet Tough Guy thing.

El Jefe

[83LowRider]

Busboy Jefe wrote:

>> There isn't a woman in this country who can't find birth
>> control or an abortion if that is what she chooses.
>> Red herring.
>
> How is it a red herring

AJ posted a question regarding NK.
How does abortion figure into that?

> when the right is constantly introducing/
> passing legislation that curtails abortion rights? Is the Sanctity of
> Human Life Act a mirage? It died once, but like Zombie Jesus rose
> again! Shall I once again list all of the attempts made at
> diminishing/ eliminating abortion?

Feel free... but facts are facts. Abortion is legal in
every single state as far as I'm aware. Do you REALLY
think that in this day and age abortion will be made
illegal?

If you care to narrow down to the restrictions made
regarding abortion, those bills being passed or debated,
feel free to do that as well if you want to. Fact is -- if
you don't have a vagina, your opinion shouldn't even
really count.

> Just because you close your eyes to reality doesn't mean it's not
> happening. Steve was absolutely correct that the right worries about
> this shit. They prove it ALL THE TIME. The only red herring here is
> your attempt to twist what he said into him saying women can't get
> abortions.

I don't know one single person 'on the right' that brings
up or downtalks abortion. Many of them may not approve
of it, but the subject has long been settled in the Supreme
Court and has been going on <legal> for decades. Your
average person that may vote conservative doesn't carry
signs or instigate bullshit about gay rights or abortions or
anything else. The exception to that rule is when some of
them log onto the internet. You may not be motivated by or
fear NK or Iran, but you sure seem to let a lot of other shit
get to you that has no bearing on your life. Again,
it's ironic to me, that you're worried about some slum dog
being able to get her fourth abortion, but blow off tyranny
and oppression.

[83LowRider]

Please feel free to elaborate. Maybe we can make it
interesting.

Any leader that will 'bully' their way into power will
never give that power up until they are forced to. You
disagree?

I'll even get it started.... here's a list... tell me
how many walked away, simply out of their
'goodheartedness'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dictator#List_of_dictators_in_modern_times

[Busboy Jefe]

On Apr 9, 5:49 pm, AJ <misfitskiss...@aol.com> wrote:

> That's because people like you ignore some of the abortions that goes
> on today. Like some of the abortions that are later in a woman's term
> when the baby is healthy and could have lived. This is reality you and
> other liberal minded fools close their eyes to.

If you're not personally involved, maybe you should butt the fuck out?
Don't like abortions? Don't put yourself in a position in which you're
faced with it.

Funny how you want government out of our lives UNLESS it's something
you have a hard on about.

El Jefe

[steveh99]

In article <c6904c6b-1312-4a3f-a1d1-
ca1a0f...@k4g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, misfits...@aol.com
says...

>
> On Apr 8, 9:59ï¿œpm, steveh99 <steve...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> > In article <21e726cd-7ff5-4822-8c34-
> > c87719842...@k4g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, misfitskiss...@aol.com
> > says...
> >
> >
> >

> > > On Apr 6, 8:20ï¿œpm, Busboy Jefe <busboyj...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > On Apr 6, 7:36ï¿œpm, steveh99 <steve...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > Same rhetoric different day
> >
> > > > The funny thing is, gay marriage is only an issue *for righties*.
> >
> > > So you actually think there are no liberal Christians that are against

> > > gay marriage? ï¿œYou probably do believe that. Carry on. ï¿œEnlighten us

> > > some more with your brilliance.
> >
> > The point he made was only people like you care
>
> Although I corrected him to point out even those that aren't like we
> do care. Hmmmm, so now you've belittled yourself by sucking on his
> teet just to flame me? Sounds about right.

LOL belittled myself? Naaaa not here

[Busboy Jefe]

On Apr 9, 5:55 pm, AJ <misfitskiss...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Apr 9, 5:01 pm, Busboy Jefe <busboyj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > It's endlessly fascinating to me how those who fellate everything
> > about America will claim concern about the people in other countries
> > while being perfectly fine with the people in THIS country seeing
> > rights challenged, safety nets threatened.
>
> Jobs, the economy, coal, guns, ammo,  you know, things you try to
> twist and shed a positive light on Obama for?

This has NOTHING to do with what I posted. I guess I should be used to
it by now. Very well:

The president doesn't create jobs. Where are all of those makers? Oh,
that's right...sending jobs overseas, or bringing in throngs of
Indians to take over jobs in the IT field and such, or expecting one
person to do the jobs of two or three.

> Shut the fuck up kid.

Struck nerves noted!

> You belittle everything great about this country

Ironic coming from someone who supports preventing specific groups of
people from enjoying the same things he can.

> and even God above.

I don't believe god exists, therefore it would be hard for me to
belittle him. Or her. It?

I DO belittle adults with imaginary friends. So again, struck nerves
noted.

> You live in fucking Vegas.  A town that allows things that are usually
> illegal everywhere else.  You got nothing to fucking complain about.

Don't be so naive.You really don't know a thing about this city.
Gambling is hardly confined to Vegas. Prostitution is -- and most
absurdly IMO, not just here but everywhere -- still illegal in Clark
County...certainly still easy to find if you want, but the same is
true all across the country. So what are all of these other illegal
things transpiring only here?

And what do YOU have to complain about, Mr. Mass-Fortune-4-Degrees-5-
Careers-Fleet-Of-Hummers-Happily-Married-Family-Man-With-Mistresses-
BFF-With Chaim? You're all set...what do you care if one of 83's fat
fucks get a box of donuts with his food stamps?

El Jefe

[steveh99]

In article <263b67dd-aa9d-4c7d-8234-
ef84f1...@i5g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, busbo...@gmail.com says...

>
> On Apr 7, 4:02ï¿œpm, "83LowRider" <83lowri...@nywilldo.com> wrote:
>
> > So you're worrying about women here losing abortion rights,
> > while you'd ignore the estimated 175,000 in forced labor
> > camps in N Korea?

We need to start worrying about our OWN problems here at home and stop
worrying about other countries first. There is a huge problem with human
trafficking along with several others that need to be addressed and
dealt with

[steveh99]

In article <01597bca-7271-4132-b08e-962e035521d1
@q6g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, misfits...@aol.com says...

He must have struck a major nerve!!! Implosion duly noted LOL

[steveh99]

In article <b586471a-9cde-49a4-b0e4-
2dd969...@y12g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, misfits...@aol.com
says...
>
> On Apr 9, 5:14ï¿œpm, Busboy Jefe <busboyj...@gmail.com> wrote:

Nooo sorry.... You are way off.. There are states that are trying to ban
abortion at the first sign of life, heart beat etc etc etc
others are trying to make it that obortion providers have to be able to
have total access to a hospital as a doctor of that hosp and there just
arent any.. What do you call that?

[Busboy Jefe]

On Apr 9, 6:04 pm, AJ <misfitskiss...@aol.com> wrote:

> Yet, I'm probably the only one here who actually served and has been
> in combat.

Which does nothing to disprove my claim. IF you actually served, that
is.

> BTW, I started this trap,

So you confirm that you're a troll...not that this was ever in
question.

> er I mean thread and only asked
> if anyone here took this threat from NK serious.  My goal, was to
> watch the liberals here go ape shit because the NG was dead.  Mission
> accomplished.  You never fail.  No wonder Obama has people like you
> eating out of the palm of his hand.

So who's going apeshit? I've said I feel no threat. Mostly, the
"liberals" in here reacted to your trolling with an indifferent yawn.

And you just rant about Obama because OF COURSE you do. That's all you
have.

Get some new material, Troll.

El Jefe

[steveh99]

In article <94b971ee-672d-4f84-86fc-
8732f9...@p5g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, misfits...@aol.com
says...
>
> On Apr 9, 5:39ï¿œpm, Busboy Jefe <busboyj...@gmail.com> wrote:

You can ditch the flag waving GI Moe...
I was in the army and served just as you did.. Doesnt matter who was in
combat or who wasn't..
Just because you claim you were in a combat situation doesn't make you
better than another tax payer who hasn't
It most certainly doesn't give you more rights than the rest of us

[steveh99]

In article <4955f1d1-e33b-44da-bc5d-cbe3a3128949
@e8g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>, busbo...@gmail.com says...

Thats what I was saying to my wife yesterday.. People like AJ/the right
want less and less govt, want govt to butt out of our personal lives,
er, um, unless its a cause we support.. We dont want govt intervention
unless we say so LOL

[steveh99]

In article <kk26lt$qap$1...@dont-email.me>, 83low...@nywilldo.com says...

yet people here live in fear of their lives everyday. Many are terrified
to send their kids off to public schools in fear that another lunatic
might pick their kids' school to shoot up. People are afraid to have
their kids walk to school and back home in fear that they might be
abducted. Now people are afraid to let their kids play outside by
themselves in fear that they will be abducted and raped, killed, sold
into slavery...
People are afraid to go to work in fear that a former worker might come
back and shoot everyone in line, people afraid to go to the mall to go
shopping in fear that yet another lunatic will pick that mall to open
fire in and kill innocent people. People being afraid to go to their
local cinema in fear of another lunatic coming in with a gun and cutting
half the audience down.. Need I go on? What about women being afraid to
walk alone out of fear of abduction, rape, murder??
People have to worry about this shit every day so what makes us any
different?

[83LowRider]

Busboy Jefe wrote:

>> So you're worrying about women here losing abortion rights,
>> while you'd ignore the estimated 175,000 in forced labor
>> camps in N Korea?
>

> Is that what this about for you and the right? Labor camps? Funny how
> that's just come up....because all I hear is "He threatened us -- we
> gotta show him who has the bigger dick!"

Fuck me... did I get a promotion and not told?
I speak for myself. Same as you do. Why the
hell else would I speak of wasting their gov't?
It's the same reason I spoke of supporting Iraq,
to be rid of Saddam and his sons. What Iraq or
AfG decides to DO with their freedoms... that shit
is on them. If Iraq somehow manages to become
a true democracy, GBush becomes a hero in the
future history books. Do I think that likely? I'd give
it about a 30% chance... but stranger things have
happened.

> It's endlessly fascinating to me how those who fellate everything
> about America will claim concern about the people in other countries
> while being perfectly fine with the people in THIS country seeing
> rights challenged, safety nets threatened.

And just what HAVEN'T we spoken of regarding
our own problems? We've beat around gays, gov't
intrusiveness, war, politics, crime.... and everything
else over the years. No topic has been avoided and
AJ simply brought up NK.
'Nuff said.

> In an ideal world, I'd see ALL people suffering relieved of it...but
> that's not going to happen, and you'd drive yourself crazy fretting
> over every wrong being committed around the globe.

We don't 'fret' over most shit because it isn't being forced
on us. When a GOV'T says they're gonna wipe your shit
out, that's a slightly different story. We send humanitarian
aid to every corner of this earth. We send doctors, money,
Red Cross, food, gov't money and ALL that shit to Africa,
Romania, etc etc etc. We support half of this country by
those who pay taxes. We certainly can't right every wrong,
but fuck... we get an A+ for trying at least.

So yes, I tend to
> focus on my own backyard first and foremost. Plus it has that added
> benefit of not making us look like hypocrites when we do play World
> Cop...putting aside that we can't even police *ourselves* at this
> point.

That simply isn't true. Our rights (USA) have come
along very nicely. We've got a law for everyfuckingthing.
Who is being discriminated against in this country?

>> Were we on the wrong side of history when we intervened
>> in WWI or II? What language would you have us speaking?
>
> This makes no sense, seeing as I wasn't referring to war. But since
> you brought it up...interesting that you have to go all the way back
> to WW2. Our track record since then hasn't been too good, huh?

Have to think on that one... we walked away in Viet Nam.
We certainly could have obliterated their entire country.
I will NOT say Iraq or AfG was a 'mistake'. We eliminated
the taliban from power in AfG and Saddam from Iraq.
We cannot force freedom or democracy on them beyond
that. And you omit THE MOST important point... our fucking
power. It is our might that discourages many other countries
from being worse than they are. We don't always have to
USE our armies for them to be effective. We brought down
Soviet Russia without warring with them. Our might discourages
Iran from being worse than it is. It has kept China in check,
and NKorea as well.

> I absolutely loved hearing/reading all of the mea culpas re: Iraq when
> the 10 year anniversary came around, especially from our "liberal
> media". Still think history will judge that excursion as anything more
> than a huge blunder?

I consider it taking out the trash. Only time can decide
if it was the right or wrong thing to do. It doesn't
really matter tho, not in the grand scheme of things.
We did the right thing, even if for the wrong reasons.
We wiped out a brutal dictator, we showed that we
ARE willing to stand up for what is right. I can live
with what happened in Iraq, even if it wasn't handled
as well as it should be. And again, if it stays truly
democratic, it was worth every drop of blood shed.

> IF this more than just the latest round of sabre-rattling -- aka we
> give them some $ and/or food, and they back off again...

We should NEVER give them one single dime or one
grain of wheat from this point on. Not one. Every
penny spent on that shithole country has been wasted.
The food, and certainly the money, never reaches the
population.


> IF they truly
> want a fight this time? Then I'm all for Obama using those drones (the
> ones the right love or hate depending on the political points they can
> score with a particular stance) to take out the leadership. Surgical
> strike.

I just finished watching a movie about the Wushu Incident
(Warriors of the Rainbow)... and when the Taiwanese
aboriginies revolted against the new Japanese gov't, the
"savages" were talking about killing a couple of the Japanese
policemen. One said - every time we kill one of them, they
kill off our entire family. If you want to kill them, you must
kill them all. Point being -- if you target a few generals, you'll
likely see massive retaliation. I am afraid for anything to
'work', you'll have to destroy their entire gov't.

> IF. I'm still not convinced this is anything more than the latest
> round of bluster. We cannot afford to make a short-sighted move akin
> to 10 years ago....not that THAT excursion was ever about defense.

To send troops into NK (unless it was decimated, then
we'll have boots on the ground to grab the nukes) would
be utter foolishness. I don't think Obama is gonna go there
at this point.

>> Who the fuck is going to take on N Korea, Iran,
>> or any other rogue country -- if not the US?

> Are you truly naive enough to believe that if NK went the nuke route,
> NO ONE else would step up?

I'm speaking of countries willing to stop it BEFORE
it happens. After the fact, of course... everyone is
willing to step up and play hero.

> Sure, because we can easily compare,say, one guy interfering with
> another guy's wife beating and putting a stop to it with starting yet
> another war in a country.

It ain't about the size of the fight... it's about what
is right and wrong. We're 'sitting here' swapping
opinions, we ain't makin' policy. It's my oPiNiOn
that we should have taken all these efforts that
we're FINALLY doing with NK and Iran, and done
them ten years ago. Why are we just now getting
"super-strict"? It's almost like Animal House and
"Double-secret probation". Bank accounts should
have been frozen a decade ago, trade embargos,
all this other shit we've just now implemented. We
have watched this brute bitchslapping his wife for
years now. And ALL of our presidents have done it.
Every chickenshit one of them just wanted to keep
the lid on long enough to pass it to the next prez.

> Again, I love the selective concern about human rights abuse. Where
> was this concern 10 years ago? 5? This stuff's been going on since,
> what, 1948...NOW we simply must go in with our dick swingin'? That's
> what a "real man" does, right?

Since day fucking one... ten Iraq anniversary years ago,
I've had NOTHING other to say except that we were doing
the right thing in Iraq by wiping out their gov't and killing
every possible one of them. There is NO VARIATION
WHATSOEVER in this, on my part. You cannot deny
that and it makes your statement 100% incorrect. Hundreds
of previous posts will back that up. I've never advocated
ANY PART of the Iraq war other than to free those
people from torture and oppression. I don't want their
oil, their peaceful civilians dead. I don't want to change
their religion or their customs. I asked for NOTHING
except a free people and a democratic gov't. End'o story.

[FVH]

He's not, though. Killer lives in a world of fear.

Hi, Killer! Hope you enjoyed reading this post!
FVH
Good ole RMAK. Where the majority swears off "scab KISS" then
wrights a review of the new album the week it comes out. LOL!-
Professor AJ
Yes I know that and I know they gained that power under Obama's
watch.-Professor AJ on China's nukes.
This was passed in 2008 under Obama.- AJ, political guru
Wait and see. Paul is not going to name the new KISS album what Gene
was
going to call his solo boxset.-AJ, KISS "expert"
Laughter is an emotion-Professor AJ Johnson, channeling his feminine
feelings.
You wrongfully misinterpreting another post noted.-AJ, English major
I love how people like you consternate so much time and effort-
Professor AJ Johnson.
10 years ago your posts were better written and your grammar was
better than what they are now.-AJ.
Pssst. Obama has been president for 7 years and you suck at math.-AJ,
2009
LOL! I doubt imergration is reading your posts.-Speeling bea
chaump, AJ.
McCain wins 2008 Election.This is what will be printed on every
newspaper next week. Wait and see.-AJ, proving that he's an idiot.
our new commander and chief.- AJ, talking politics.
Stadiums have no walls!- AJ
*Geeks with key boards aren't intimidating.-AJ
You made a boneheaded 'observation' about Ace, and you're a fool.
That's pretty much it.- Hidell, making a brilliant point about AJ.
Twinkle Toes Stanley hadn't quite picked up that Lick It Up/
Heaven's On Fire half a ballerina dance that he does.- db
How many times can the Greed Twins milk a cow? As many times as the
sheep will let them.-db

[FVH]

Put away the fat victim card, Detective.

[FVH]

Actually those who pay attention (it's not a "liberal" or "not
liberal" issue) are well aware of what's going on. You're not one of
those people, fat ass.

On Apr 9, 2:25 pm, AJ <misfitskiss...@aol.com> wrote:
> I don't think he, I, or anyone else here is personally "spooked."  I
> think he, I, and maybe a few other decent people are more concerned
> over the possible deaths of innocent people and maybe some of our
> American troops if the shit hits the fan.  AND that is one thing you
> can search this thread for and won't see one single liberal/Obama
> voter even remotely taking into consideration. This topic, like all
> topics, is just another carefree/careless topic that doesn't matter
> because it isn't happening in their backyard and whatever happens,
> someone else will pay for it.

[FVH]

At least NK made an actual threat(s), as opposed to Killer THINKING I
made one. Sad when the NK leader is less insane than the Detective.

On Apr 9, 3:37 pm, Busboy Jefe <busboyj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Butbutbut -- they THREATENED us! And you should know from personal
> experience how terrifying it is to have someone threaten you when the
> reality is they have no way to reach you!
>
> Do you think Kim stalks Obama's Twitter feed looking for clues?
>
> El Jefe

[FVH]

I thought you had my address, Detective? Busted.

[FVH]

On Apr 9, 5:36 pm, Busboy Jefe <busboyj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You know, it's *possible* that this isn't just bluster. But a lot of things are possible, so you have to consider how likely they are.

Sure it's possible, but very unlikely. I see your point, though.

> After 50 years of this dog and pony show, I simply can't feel a
> "threat" from NK at all. It goes without saying that if I were in
> Seoul or Japan, I'd feel differently. But I'm not.

The only way this would get my full attention is if other countries,
with legit capabilities, joined forces with NK. Of course, that won't
happen because most countries are too smart to start a shitstorm with
America, even with our faults. We may be viewed as slightly weaker
than we were in the past (although I still think most countries fear
us), no one is going to risk getting blown off the map. And yes, I
realize Iran and others are allies with NK, HOOD RATS, however they
are not viewed as major threats at this point.

> And again I note, the people most worried about attacks live in places
> that no one would ever target. The only nuke attack Richlands Record
> Exchange has to worry about will come from Deep Dish's bowel.

LOL! Yeah, I doubt NK is concerning themselves with a fat, dumb, gay
redneck who sits behind a register every day of his lonely life
daydreaming of starting another civil war. Perhaps Killer could have
Kim Jong-un do an autograph signing at John's store.

[FVH]

Yep. Killer lives in fat fear, that's all he knows. It's sad that he's
never experienced living in peace and not having voices and scenarios
torture his mind every waking hour.

On Apr 9, 5:39 pm, Busboy Jefe <busboyj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 9, 10:08 am, mss <bluelamp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > AJ pull your head out, I know you're more intelligent than to fall
> > for rhetoric.
>

[FVH]

What do you know about abortions, Dr. Detective? Hell, you still
haven't figured out the procreation process, Bitch Fist.

[FVH]

This is coming from a fat slob who hates people solely based on their
race, gender, and sexual orientation. I mean, look at yourself in the
mirror sometime and tell me you're not a fat, disgusting slob. How do
you live with yourself?

On Apr 9, 5:55 pm, AJ <misfitskiss...@aol.com> wrote:

[FVH]

Still butthurt because Obama took out Bin Laden and other top
terrorist leaders, Twinkie Tits?

It must be hell on your fat body being this angry and having no way of
taking it out on your enemies. FVH is still alive and well, and that
grates on you like no other. I walk out my door everyday not in fear
of my life and that eats at you, doesn't it? I mean, here I am an open
target that could be taken out in an instant, yet you sit behind a
register daydreaming. How does it feel knowing your #1 enemy laughs at
you, Killer? Enjoy your day!

On Apr 9, 5:58 pm, AJ <misfitskiss...@aol.com> wrote:
> Well in the last 50 years NK weren't this much advanced.  Plus, up
> until now, America had real leaders that knew how to handle situations
> like this.  I'm surprised Obama hasn't apologized and surrendered to NK yet.

[FVH]

No, you were bored, lonely and wanted FVH and Jefe to pay attention to
you, hence this thread. Simple as that.

On Apr 9, 6:04 pm, AJ <misfitskiss...@aol.com> wrote:

[FVH]

Considering he did nothing when he thought he had my address years
ago, it would be perfectly safe to give him my address. Of course I
won't do that because I'm not stupid enough to do so. I mean, I don't
want/need gay magazines sent to my house or him posting my info on
craiglist. That's the extent of what he'd do. YAWN

What's funny is I've had an active twitter account since 2010 and he's
yet to find it. Some detective he is! There's something for you to do,
Killer!

[steveh99]

In article <484e671d-387c-456e-a3d8-b7a76e7d1ad9
@p12g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>, jarj...@gmail.com says...

> On Apr 9, 5:49ï¿œpm, AJ <misfitskiss...@aol.com> wrote:
> > That's because people like you ignore some of the abortions that goes
> > on today. Like some of the abortions that are later in a woman's term
> > when the baby is healthy and could have lived. This is reality you and
> > other liberal minded fools close their eyes to.

AJ opposes any form of abortion even if the mother's life is in jeopardy

[AJ]

On Apr 9, 6:51 pm, steveh99 <steve...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> In article <4955f1d1-e33b-44da-bc5d-cbe3a3128949

> @e8g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>, busboyj...@gmail.com says...

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> > On Apr 9, 5:49 pm, AJ <misfitskiss...@aol.com> wrote:
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> > > That's because people like you ignore some of the abortions that goes
> > > on today. Like some of the abortions that are later in a woman's term
> > > when the baby is healthy and could have lived. This is reality you and
> > > other liberal minded fools close their eyes to.
>
> > If you're not personally involved, maybe you should butt the fuck out?
> > Don't like abortions? Don't put yourself in a position in which you're
> > faced with it.
>
> > Funny how you want government out of our lives UNLESS it's something
> > you have a hard on about.
>
> > El Jefe
>
> Thats what I was saying to my wife yesterday.. People like AJ/the right
> want less and less govt, want govt to butt out of our personal lives,
> er, um,  unless its a cause we support.. We dont want govt intervention
> unless we say so LOL

You two only keep proving how little you know about this topic and
just how much you don't care.

[AJ]

On Apr 9, 6:43 pm, steveh99 <steve...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> In article <b586471a-9cde-49a4-b0e4-
> 2dd9699c9...@y12g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, misfitskiss...@aol.com
> says...
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> > On Apr 9, 5:14 pm, Busboy Jefe <busboyj...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > On Apr 7, 4:35 pm, "83LowRider" <83lowri...@nywilldo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > There isn't a woman in this country who can't find birth
> > > > control or an abortion if that is what she chooses.
> > > > Red herring.
>
> > > How is it a red herring when the right is constantly introducing/
> > > passing legislation that curtails abortion rights? Is the Sanctity of
> > > Human Life Act a mirage? It died once, but like Zombie Jesus rose
> > > again! Shall I once again list all of the attempts made at diminishing/
> > > eliminating abortion?
>
> > > Just because you close your eyes to reality doesn't mean it's not
> > > happening. Steve was absolutely correct that the right worries about
> > > this shit. They prove it ALL THE TIME. The only red herring here is
> > > your attempt to twist what he said into him saying women can't get
> > > abortions.
>
> > > El Jefe
>
> > That's because people like you ignore some of the abortions that goes
> > on today. Like some of the abortions that are later in a woman's term
> > when the baby is healthy and could have lived. This is reality you and
> > other liberal minded fools close their eyes to.
>
> Nooo sorry.... You are way off.. There are states that are trying to ban
> abortion at the first sign of life, heart beat etc etc etc
> others are trying to make it that obortion providers have to be able to
> have total access to a hospital as a doctor of that hosp and there just
> arent any.. What do you call that?

And that's not what I'm not talking about nor is that what I
mentioned. I said late term. Look again.

[AJ]

On Apr 10, 12:45 am, steveh99 <steve...@roadrunner.com> wrote:

> AJ opposes any form of abortion even if the mother's life is in jeopardy

Not true. You just ignore what I actually say and are too lazy to
educate yourself.

[AJ]

On Apr 9, 6:15 pm, "83LowRider" <83lowri...@nywilldo.com> wrote:

> Busboy Jefe wrote:
> >> There isn't a woman in this country who can't find birth
> >> control or an abortion if that is what she chooses.
> >> Red herring.
>
> > How is it a red herring
>

> AJ posted a question regarding NK.
> How does abortion figure into that?


It figures in because I mentioned the weak minded are distracted by
lesser issues likes abortion and gay marriage and don't have time to
worry about a country threatening to nuke us. As we've seen by their
responses and how easily they are manipulated, I was right.

[AJ]

On Apr 9, 6:38 pm, steveh99 <steve...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> In article <263b67dd-aa9d-4c7d-8234-
> ef84f1041...@i5g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, busboyj...@gmail.com says...

>
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> > On Apr 7, 4:02 pm, "83LowRider" <83lowri...@nywilldo.com> wrote:
>
> > > So you're worrying about women here losing abortion rights,
> > > while you'd ignore the estimated 175,000 in forced labor
> > > camps in N Korea?
>
> We need to start worrying about our OWN problems here at home and stop
> worrying about other countries first.

Tell that to the 30,000 troops stationed in South Korea. Are they not
"our own?" Or would you like to admit to the class until just now
you had no fucking clue over 30,000 Americans live in South Korea?

[AJ]

Said the guy that can't just answer a simple question and has to make
personal flames for a week now. Yeah, ape shit. Go figure.

[AJ]

On Apr 9, 6:48 pm, steveh99 <steve...@roadrunner.com> wrote:

> You can ditch the flag waving GI Moe...
> I was in the army and served just as you did.. Doesnt matter who was in
> combat or who wasn't..

Sure it. While you were in a kitchen cooking food you got no personal
experience fighting soldiers of a tyrant.

> Just because you claim you were in a combat situation doesn't make you
> better than another tax payer who hasn't
> It most certainly doesn't give you more rights than the rest of us

Didn't say it did. But I do know what a enemy soldier will do against
an American soldier when he is ordered to do so. Even if that soldier
knows he is out numbered and is going to die from his actions. In
case you have forgotten, we already had a Korean war and thousands of
or men died. And don't forget, we also underestimated the Vietnamese.

[AJ]

On Apr 9, 6:16 pm, Busboy Jefe <busboyj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 9, 4:53 pm, AJ <misfitskiss...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Butbutbut neither of you or him will post your real address. Class
> > dismissed.
>

> You haven't posted yours either. Sorry, business addresses don't
> count.

Said the little pussy that won't even post his real name.

>
> Of course, why anyone would feel a need to do so as a demonstration is
> beyond me...I guess it's an Internet Tough Guy thing.
>
> El Jefe

It is beyond you. Because you're fearful. You won't post your name,
your address, why? Fear.

[AJ]

On Apr 9, 6:14 pm, Busboy Jefe <busboyj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 9, 4:51 pm, AJ <misfitskiss...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Been there done that and Google it.  I even posted a video of Obama
> > himself saying gay marriage goes against his Christian beliefs and
> > Obama himself said it's not a civil right.  So again, "it's not only
> > the righties" like you claimed.
>
> Yet he turned around and came out in support of it ( more than likely
> as a political move, but nevertheless), and is not actively attempting
> to prevent it from happening. So it would seem it's not at all an
> *issue* for him.
>
> Now where are all of those factual accounts of "liberal christians"
> who actively opposing gay marriage? Don't have any? Not surprised.
>
> Class dismissed.
>
> El Jefe

Factual accounts? Look outside. See all those straight people? Ever
watch the news? Still think "It's only an issue for righties?"
Idiot. You honestly think every Dem or lib supports gay marriage?
Did every Dem vote to support gay marriage in the past? Again, you're
an idiot. Welcome to reality and accept the fact that there are those
on your side that don't like you either.

[steveh99]

In article <7791651f-462a-441b-a357-e941ff9aee61
@b20g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>, misfits...@aol.com says...

>
> On Apr 9, 6:43ï¿œpm, steveh99 <steve...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> > In article <b586471a-9cde-49a4-b0e4-
> > 2dd9699c9...@y12g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, misfitskiss...@aol.com
> > says...
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> > > On Apr 9, 5:14ï¿œpm, Busboy Jefe <busboyj...@gmail.com> wrote:

Of course not. If someone proves you wrong otherwise, you werent talking
about that!

[steveh99]

In article <edac7857-476a-4ee1-b647-278056406795
@q6g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, misfits...@aol.com says...

We werent talking about our troops abroad we were talking about helping
other countries
stay on topic

[AJ]

On Apr 10, 1:05 pm, steveh99 <steve...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> In article <7791651f-462a-441b-a357-e941ff9aee61
> @b20g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>, misfitskiss...@aol.com says...

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> > On Apr 9, 6:43 pm, steveh99 <steve...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> > > In article <b586471a-9cde-49a4-b0e4-
> > > 2dd9699c9...@y12g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, misfitskiss...@aol.com
> > > says...
>

> > > > On Apr 9, 5:14 pm, Busboy Jefe <busboyj...@gmail.com> wrote:

Follow the thread. My post is still there. I said what I said, not
what you said I said.

[steveh99]

In article <327a970a-d1b8-4527-a5b0-
1d6710...@r6g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, misfits...@aol.com
says...

Doesn't matter whether or not I was on the front, the point is I was
THERE!

[steveh99]

In article <327a970a-d1b8-4527-a5b0-
1d6710...@r6g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, misfits...@aol.com
says...
>

There was never war declared in either countries by an american
president. They were police actions, not wars

[AJ]

On Apr 9, 7:01 pm, steveh99 <steve...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> yet people here live in fear of their lives everyday. Many are terrified
> to send their kids off to public schools in fear that another lunatic
> might pick their kids' school to shoot up. People are afraid to have
> their kids walk to school and back home in fear that they might be
> abducted. Now people are afraid to let their kids play outside by
> themselves in fear that they will be abducted and raped, killed, sold
> into slavery...
> People are afraid to go to work in fear that a former worker might come
> back and shoot everyone in line, people afraid to go to the mall to go
> shopping in fear that yet another lunatic will pick that mall to open
> fire in and kill innocent people. People being afraid to go to their
> local cinema in fear of another lunatic coming in with a gun and cutting
> half the audience down.. Need I go on? What about women being afraid to
> walk alone out of fear of abduction, rape, murder??
> People have to worry about this shit every day so what makes us any
> different?

I would like to take this moment to point out that Steve's post above
is a perfect example of media manipulation and how it has seeped in to
mind set of the weak minded. ALL of the things mentioned above has
always been happening. It's just now we as a society have much more
access to many different media outlets fighting for our money and
ratings. Example, just yesterday a guy walks into a TX school and 14
people were stabbed. You didn't hear about this? Because no gun were
used and the public is thirsty for worse news about guns being used on
school kids. There's less good news on the news because there is no
good ratings for good news. Does anyone actually want to turn on the
news and watch the news anchor say, "Today was perfect. Nothing went
wrong and the weather is beautiful?" No, you want to see that
trailer park get ripped the fuck apart from 8 tornadoes.

[steveh99]

In article <3ee1d172-2598-496f-bd39-
fd1d98...@u20g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, misfits...@aol.com
says...

You cant be that dumb.......

On December 14, 2012, Adam Lanza, 20, fatally shot twenty children and
six adult staff members in a mass murder at Sandy Hook Elementary School
in the village of Sandy Hook in Newtown, Connecticut...

I suppose this was media manipulation as well right? I suppose you're
going to try and convince all of us that this was nothing mo9re than a
media propaganda stunt and the death of these people were false LOL
Get a life!

[AJ]

On Apr 10, 1:07 pm, steveh99 <steve...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> In article <edac7857-476a-4ee1-b647-278056406795
> @q6g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, misfitskiss...@aol.com says...

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> > On Apr 9, 6:38 pm, steveh99 <steve...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> > > In article <263b67dd-aa9d-4c7d-8234-
> > > ef84f1041...@i5g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, busboyj...@gmail.com says...
>

> > > > On Apr 7, 4:02 pm, "83LowRider" <83lowri...@nywilldo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > So you're worrying about women here losing abortion rights,
> > > > > while you'd ignore the estimated 175,000 in forced labor
> > > > > camps in N Korea?
>
> > > We need to start worrying about our OWN problems here at home and stop
> > > worrying about other countries first.
>
> > Tell that to the 30,000 troops stationed in South Korea.  Are they not
> > "our own?"   Or would you like to admit to the class until just now
> > you had no fucking clue over 30,000 Americans live in South Korea?
>
> We werent talking about our troops abroad we were talking about helping
> other countries
> stay on topic

And we have our people in other countries. I'm spot on the topic. In
case you haven't noticed, the Dems in charge now aren't really feeding
the homeless and doing more for our schools than any other
administration has before.

[AJ]

On Apr 10, 1:27 pm, steveh99 <steve...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> In article <3ee1d172-2598-496f-bd39-
> fd1d98bae...@u20g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, misfitskiss...@aol.com

Was this the first time someone went into a school and shot the
students there? No. Again, you don't have a point.
Is banning all guns going to stop humans from killing each other? No.

[AJ]

On Apr 10, 1:09 pm, steveh99 <steve...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> In article <327a970a-d1b8-4527-a5b0-
> 1d6710c89...@r6g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, misfitskiss...@aol.com

Not according to all the lies you told before today about your stint
in the Army. You have not been in combat.

[AJ]

On Apr 10, 1:14 pm, steveh99 <steve...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> In article <327a970a-d1b8-4527-a5b0-
> 1d6710c89...@r6g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, misfitskiss...@aol.com

So the Korean war and Vietnam war never happened? Those were just
"police actions?"