YOu wanted to know who Scott McClusky was, he is the "Ace" in the trib
band Hotter than Hell!!! From what I understand, the tribute band
was there ONLY to set up the shots, or whatever the proper term.
THere is a picture of scott standing next to the REAL Ace both in makeup
and costume in hotter than hell's website. I am sorry, but I saw the
movie twice and that was NOT McClusky in that shot with the burning
guitar. Being an ace fan for 22 years, I can SURELY tell between a
FAKE and the real thing. SORYY, It WAS ACE throughout THE ENTIRE
CONCERT SCENE AND NOT MCCLUSKY no matter what any knucklehead says.
Keep Rockin'
Terri Diane Bey and Ace Frehley the beagle
Ace Frehley and Freddie Mercury RULE and That's the BOTTOM LINE CAUSE
Terri Diane Bey SAID SO!!!!!
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At least I am willing to admit I was wrong. Too bad the movie people
were too cheap to have Ace, the real one for the ENTIRE concerrt scene.
NO offense!!!
Scott wrote:
Keep Rockin'
IT has nothing to do with Scott. I am not mad at Scott, I must
emphasize that. IT was not his decision, it was most likely the
decision ( for him to double in that body shot with the smoking guitar
for that 2 seconds) of the producers and director, and THAT is where my
anger is directed.
The movie sucked anyway, so I was not going to buy the video anyway.
I am sure it came down to being an editing decision. There may not
have been any smooth transitions for what they were doing with Ace that they
could make work at that point in editing. I am sure they would have used
only actual Ace footage if they would have had it. I remember Adam Rifkin
saying that after that day was done he realized there were a few shots he
forgot to get. I don't think it is something to get all that upset over, yet
I imagine you have your reasons which are valid enough. I just don't think
anyone was particularly trying to rip us off in any way.
C. Curly
Acording to the *workprint* (P-74502) this scene does not occur. After
the smoking Ace shot, the screen shows the audience then returns to
Paul. The screen then shows Gene, then there is a blury shot that is
trying to focus on Gene. At no point in time is there a scene as you
described (boot on monitor) Im not saying it didnt happen, however it is
not on the workprint.
COOL dude! You must have been stoked getting to meet the guys and then turning
up IN THE MOVIE even if it was for 2 seconds....
Where is your band based?
EC
I don't think it is something to get all that upset over, yet I imagine
you have your reasons which are valid enough. I just don't think anyone
was particularly trying to rip us off in any way.
C. Curly
Well, the image of Ace holding the smoking guitar is , IMO at least,
one of the most distinct images in KISSTORY, right up there with Gene's
blood spitting and Paul's breaking the guitar!!!! I feel ripped off
when GEne says in SEVERAL interviews that the whole band is in the
concert scene and now we find out that it is NOT exactly true. Even for
the two seconds!!! If I wanted to see a "fake Ace" hold the burning
guitar, I will go see a TRIBUTE BAND. I plunk down my money to see this
movie and I EXPECT the REAL ACE in the ENTIRE CONCERT SCENE, NOT in the
majority of the concert scene EXCEPT for two seconds when the double is
in there with the smoking guitar no less. Sorry if i offend any one
here, but I feel ripped off!!!!!! The video tape of DRC will NOT go
into my collection. ( not ONLY because of this fact but the film just
plained sucked as a film even though it is a great KISS vehicle. )
That's a bit different.
SOunds like someone has been looking for a way to brag that he has a
workprint of the film. Otherwise, your post was completely useless as the
the final released version is what everyone has to go by.
JEEEEZZZZ.....do the words "Get a Life" mean anything to you? LOL!
AGREED 100% thanks.
Keep Rockin'
Terri Diane Bey and Ace Frehley the beagle
Ace Frehley and Freddie Mercury RULE and That's the BOTTOM LINE CAUSE
Terri Diane Bey SAID SO!!!!!
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http://community.webtv.net/Alydace/TERRISCOMETAPage
On the workprint it just show's Ace holding the smoking guitar. That is
all.
.fxxk the workprint or better yet look at that again its prob just
listed as 1 shot)>>>>
Im not trying to piss you off, but it's not there.
LOOK JERK OFF, A POST WAS MADE AND I RESPONDED. I DON'T SEE YOU SHEDING
ANY LIGHT ON THIS SUBJECT!
Otherwise, your post was completely useless>>>>
A POST WAS MADE TO THE NG THAT SCOTT MCCLUSKY WAS IN THE FILM FOR 2
SECONDS. ON THE WORKPRINT IT DOES NOT APPEAR! WHY NOT ASK ALL THE
MILLIONS OF FANS WHO WENT TO SEE IT IF THEY REMEMBER THIS PART. (you
cant cuz about 10 fans went to go and see it!)
as the the final released version is what everyone has to go by. >>>>
This is true, however it would seem odd that the editors would change
the scene for a mere 2 seconds or to purposely omit Ace!
NEXT QUESTION: IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THE SCENE WAS DELETED SO THAT ALL OF
THE CONCERT FOOTAGE WAS STRICTLY KISS?????
Get a Life??? EXCUSE ME??? I just expressed my opinion, like everyone
else does in here. If you don't like what I write, you don't have to
read it.
randallasc wrote:
concert scene and now we find out that it is NOT exactly true. Even for
the two seconds!!! If I wanted to see a "fake Ace" hold the burning
guitar, I will go see a TRIBUTE BAND. I plunk down my money to see this
movie and I EXPECT the REAL ACE in the ENTIRE CONCERT SCENE, NOT in the
majority of the concert scene EXCEPT for two seconds when the double is
in there with the smoking guitar no less. Sorry if i offend any one
here, but I feel ripped off!!!!!! The video tape of DRC will NOT go into
my collection. ( not ONLY because of this fact but the film just plained
sucked as a film even though it is a great KISS vehicle. )
Keep Rockin'
Terri Diane Bey and Ace Frehley the beagle
Ace Frehley and Freddie Mercury RULE and That's the BOTTOM LINE CAUSE
Terri Diane Bey SAID SO!!!!!
JEEEEZZZZ.....do the words "Get a Life" mean anything to you? LOL!
Keep Rockin'
LOOK JERK OFF, A POST WAS MADE AND I RESPONDED. I DON'T SEE YOU SHEDING
ANY LIGHT ON THIS SUBJECT!
But thatis the thing....You didn't shed any light on the subject and it
came off like you wanted to say "Look what I have that you people don't". If
that isn't true simply ignore me, it was just a comment.
C. Curly
a workprint is not a piece of paper.
Somehow you are not understanding. A post was made that this person was
in the film, and one could see it. (boot on monitor etc.) I do not doubt
that he did do the shoot, however its *NOT* on the workprint.
and it came off like you wanted to say "Look what I have that you
people don't".>>>>
Now I have a problem with this. At *NO* point in time did I ever suggest
this claim. You arrived to this at your own conclucion! What is this Ng
comming to when people cannot participate in a thread? Here's some
advice.....Do not assume, or change the wording to those who post.
There's enough garbage going on around here!
Next subject please!
Somehow you are not understanding. A post was made that this person was
in the film, and one could see it. (boot on monitor etc.) I do not doubt
that he did do the shoot, however its *NOT* on the workprint.
But it doesn't matter if it is on the workprint or not. Most
people can only judge by the released print of the film. Whether the
workprint has a shot of a boot in it or not is a moot point.
and it came off like you wanted to say "Look what I have that you
people don't".>>>>
Now I have a problem with this. At *NO* point in time did I ever suggest
this claim. You arrived to this at your own conclucion!
Hey, I am just giving my opinion. It doesn't necessarily mean anything.
That is why I say just ignore it. I said that because I couldn't figure out
how mentioning the workprint had any real use as it doesn't matter what is
in the workprint, if a shot is in the released print. What worth is that to
mention to the newsgroup? It doesn't prove or disprove anything. In that
context, it seemed like perhaps you were just looking for an opportunity to
brag on your workprint. People do that all the time in NG's, name dropping
etc. I can't help it if you are a hot head. I'll assume what I wish, as will
you & others. I didn't change the wording of anything of yours. Get a little
more secure in yourself and maybe then you won't get as bothered by someone
else's comments.
C. Curly
Which was your 1st mistake.
Get a little more secure in yourself and maybe then you won't get as
bothered by someone else's comments.>>>>
The only thing that bothered me was *Your* assumption that I was
*Bragging* about a stupid film. I do not peddle things around here! If
you have been here long enough you would know that!
Which was your 1st mistake.
It was a reasonable assumption based upon the fact that your input into
this whole thing was completely useless, thus making my assumption seem
farily reasonable. Show me how your comments about having the workprint have
any light to shade on this whole thing. Maybe you weren't trying to brag, my
point is that my assumption was reasonable based on the fact that your input
was without merit. I have been around here a few years, I just don't post
often.
C. Curly
This is getting ridiculous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Show me how your comments about having the workprint have any light to
shade on this whole thing.>>>>
I did not go see this film! I saw the workprint!!
Because it flopped I assume many others did not see it (at the movies).
The scene in question is not in the workprint! It may be in the final
print, it may not. I DONT KNOW!! I just stated *ITS NOT IN THE F****NG*
workprint!!!!!
Maybe you weren't trying to brag, my point is that my assumption was
reasonable>>>>
NOT REASONABLE!!!!! PERIOD!! NOW MAY I ASSUME YOU ARE SOME LOYAL
FANATIC OF THE TRIBUTE BAND HTH BECAUSE OF ALL OF THIS???
I have been around here a few years, I just don't post often. >>>>
I can see why! I am also going to assume *you* are the type of person
who must have the last word as I have told you the scene is not on the
workprint yet you continue to ask whats the point. IT WAS JUST A
COMMENT!!!!! OK????
ARE WE DONE????
Yes, I believe we are done now. Believe it or not, no harm intended.
C. Curly
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