In the late 80's, there was a movie called "The decline of western
civilization part two-the metal years". It is kind of a documentary of
heavy metal music during that time. Many bands are interviewed, Kiss,
Aerosmith, Wasp, etc...
Alice Cooper starts to talk about other acts/people that he feels
"ripped him off". He says, "I don't want to name names, but his
initials are..." and then they kinda cut him off.
I always wondered who it was that he mentioned. It could quite possibly
be G.S.
Any insights?
> Alice Cooper starts to talk about other acts/people that he feels
> "ripped him off". He says, "I don't want to name names, but his
> initials are..." and then they kinda cut him off.
If I'm not mistaken, he says W.A.S.P.
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Hell yeah, Alice is great. Just saw him last week with Scorpions. He
put on a cool show. I can't wait for his new album.
I love Alice.But you are right about the new stuff.I like everything
from Flush the Fashion back.
fivedub
>Alice Cooper starts to talk about other acts/people that he feels
>"ripped him off". He says, "I don't want to name names, but his
>initials are..." and then they kinda cut him off.
>
>I always wondered who it was that he mentioned. It could quite possibly
>be G.S.
Alice has had a thing against Blackie Lawless of W.A.S.P. for quite some
time. (and with good reason, the guy's gone so far as to use old Alice
quotes in interviews)
As of a few years ago (that's when I read the interview), he had no
problems with KISS, mainly because at the beginning they openly admitted
being inspired by him. Along the lines of "we figured in one guy in
make-up could do it, imagine what *four* could accomplish."
Chris
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Alice is great. W.A.S.P. is okay. But Truimph just plain sucks!
Kiss was influenced by Alice (and vice versa). W.A.S.P. was heavily
influenced by Kiss. Who was Triumph influenced by? ABBA!
--Dave M.
First you complained about the Triumph post, and now you cannot open
your mouth without saying "Triumph".
I said it before and I'll say it again, you're just a young, stupid
punk.
I just wondered if anyone caught on that 'Carnival of souls' is a lyric
from Alice's song 'Stolen Prayer" /Last Temptation.
Chris
Who has probably never heard Triumph (ABBA?? Come on...Rush maybe)
Again fella's this is the KISS newsgroup, not Alice Cooper's or Lizzy
Borden's, people just dont get it do you..
THIS NEWSGROUP IS REC.MUSIC.ARTISTS.KISS so KEEP IT THE WAY ITS SUPPOSE
TO BE..
You like talking about other bands go to the newsgroup that is for no
band in particular
THE DISCUSSION HERE IS KISS, SO KEEP IT THAT WAY!
> Alice is great. W.A.S.P. is okay. But Truimph just plain sucks!
> Kiss was influenced by Alice (and vice versa). W.A.S.P. was heavily
> influenced by Kiss. Who was Triumph influenced by? ABBA!
I don't see how Alice was, or could ever be influenced by Kiss. Also,
WASP was more influenced by Alice than by Kiss.
Yeah, Alice was doing it before Kiss, but maybe as Kiss came along, he
drew a little inspiration from them. Who knows. Unfortunately, I was
too young to have seen the original Alice Cooper band, who put out AMAZING
albums and were true originals live. Sorry to take up space and not
discuss important Kiss information, but since there is a Kiss reference,
hopefully that will make it alright.
>>> Alice is great. W.A.S.P. is okay. But Truimph just plain sucks!
>>> Kiss was influenced by Alice (and vice versa). W.A.S.P. was heavily
>>> influenced by Kiss. Who was Triumph influenced by? ABBA!
Alice was great.
WASP sucks.
KISS probably was more influenced by Alice
Rik Emmett has more pure guitar talent than anyone ever associated
with KISS, Alice, or WASP, all put together.
I guess that would make him the Eric Carr of guitar.
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>I just wondered if anyone caught on that 'Carnival of souls' is a lyric
>from Alice's song 'Stolen Prayer" /Last Temptation.
"Carnival of Souls" is a great, wierd, black and white horror flick.
You just don't get it do you? We don't care what you NetCops think. Shut
up.
Denny
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Stick to the newsgroups subject which is KISS
> Again fella's this is the KISS newsgroup, not Alice Cooper's or Lizzy
> Borden's, people just dont get it do you..
> THIS NEWSGROUP IS REC.MUSIC.ARTISTS.KISS so KEEP IT THE WAY ITS SUPPOSE
> TO BE..
> You like talking about other bands go to the newsgroup that is for no
> band in particular
> THE DISCUSSION HERE IS KISS, SO KEEP IT THAT WAY!
Shut UP YOU FUCKIN PUSSY!!! My question was whether or not Alice had a
problem with Gene!
If you want to talk about Alice Cooper or the Dorkians go to their
repective newsgroups PLEASE
and that makes it Kiss related. Maybe on the outer fringes but Kiss
related nonetheless.
If you have nothing better to do than worry about what other people talk
about and insult people then go and form your own newsgroup PLEASE.
I agree. Although Alice was first and is great, Kiss was (and is) magnitudes
more successful and entertaining. Alice Cooper knew this.
--Dave
BTW, for all you Triumph fans: Alice Cooper is great. Kiss is greater. Triumph
is not real rock-n-roll. I don't care about bandwidth or your net-cop B.S.,
so stop crying. Truimph is lousy and really has no place anywhere. Get
a life and stop worrying about defending that lame group and stop worrying
about everything I post (who's trying to be the "net-cop"?).
'Official??' As in sanctioned and created by KISS themselves? Hardly.
This is an informal discussion group about KISS and (read this part real
carefully, now) RELATED items. Read the charter sometime, why don't ya?
> BTW, for all you Triumph fans: Alice Cooper is great. Kiss is greater. Triumph
> is not real rock-n-roll. I don't care about bandwidth or your net-cop B.S.,
> so stop crying. Truimph is lousy and really has no place anywhere. Get
> a life and stop worrying about defending that lame group and stop worrying
> about everything I post (who's trying to be the "net-cop"?).
I'm starting to think that you are the biggest Triumph fan here.
> I agree. Although Alice was first and is great, Kiss was (and is) magnitudes
> more successful and entertaining. Alice Cooper knew this.
If it's theatrics you're talking about, then I would definately put Alice
over Kiss anyday. He puts on one hell of a show. As for being
successful, Kiss is more successful now, but Alice had quite a huge
following in the early 70's.
I didnt insult anyone, I merely said take your none Kiss discussion to
its appropriate newsgroup, and I will stand by that; I dont want to hear
anything about any other bands in this newsgroup other than its
designated band which is Kiss; If YOU have a big problem sticking to
this newsgroups topic, then perhaps you should go elsegroup!!!
I made a comment about someone selling KISS tix for an outrageous price,
I never said anything about Ticketmaster except that they were ripping
off Kiss fans FIRST before the SCALPERS, so get your story straight
moron!!
>I dont want to hear
>anything about any other bands in this newsgroup other than its
>designated band which is Kiss
So, Stephen, when did Gene die & make you God?
DG
Yeah, go get a job, and get laid, and move out of your parents house...
>Denny Payne wrote:
>>
>> Stephen Hall (sch...@infinet.com) wrote:
>> : If you want to talk about Alice Cooper or the Dorkians go to their
>> : repective newsgroups PLEASE
>>
>> If you have nothing better to do than worry about what other people talk
>> about and insult people then go and form your own newsgroup PLEASE.
>>
>> Denny
>> --
>I didnt insult anyone, I merely said take your none Kiss discussion to
>its appropriate newsgroup, and I will stand by that; I dont want to hear
>anything about any other bands in this newsgroup other than its
>designated band which is Kiss
You do not own this newsgroup, so your "wants" are not paramount to
everyone else's.
>; If YOU have a big problem sticking to
>this newsgroups topic, then perhaps you should go elsegroup!!!
"Elsegroup??" I take it English was not your major in college. You
should practice what you preach. I have seen several posts from you
that were not related to KISS. You have insulted plenty of people as
well (including me) in other posts, and you implied an insult by
calling the Scorpions "the Dorkians", implying that the person who
likes them must be a dork.
> I dont want to hear
>anything about any other bands in this newsgroup other than its
>designated band which is Kiss;
The original question was about KISS (did AC have a beef with Gene? that
sounds pretty related to me).
Once you've been on the 'net a few months, you'll realize that just like
in life, discussions sometimes wander.
Trying to be NetCop over everyone just torques them off and encourages it.
Grow up, don't read it if you don't want to, and accept it.
Chris
(could be worse, we could be getting spammed with sex ads all the time)
Thank you for elucidating my position as well. I get real tired of people
that don't live in reality, and the reality here is just what you
described: discussions wander sometimes. People are too concerned with
what 'should be' and they never pay any attention to what 'is.'
:
: Chris
: (could be worse, we could be getting spammed with sex ads all the time)
:
Oh God, I hope you don't jinx us with that comment! ;-)
>Denny Payne wrote:
>>
>> Stephen Hall (sch...@infinet.com) wrote:
>> : K.C. wrote:
>> : >
>> : > On 21 Aug 1996 bonem...@occ-uky.campus.mci.net wrote:
>> : >
>> : > > I was under the impression that maybe it was King Diamond. Geez, I am
>> : > > going to have to pull out some of my Cooper albums and give them a spin,
>> : > > it's been too long. Not to start an unwanted thread (like the Triumph),
>> : > > but are most fans into Alice as well? I love most of his stuff, though
>> : > > the newer material is kind of hard to digest.
>> : >
>> : > Hell yeah, Alice is great. Just saw him last week with Scorpions. He
>> : > put on a cool show. I can't wait for his new album.
>> : >
>> :
>> : If you want to talk about Alice Cooper or the Dorkians go to their
>> : repective newsgroups PLEASE
>>
>> If you have nothing better to do than worry about what other people talk
>> about and insult people then go and form your own newsgroup PLEASE.
>>
>> Denny
>> --
You don't want to hear it??? Did you start this newsgroup?? Who are
you to tell us what to do??
>I didnt insult anyone, I merely said take your none Kiss discussion to
>its appropriate newsgroup, and I will stand by that; I dont want to hear
>anything about any other bands in this newsgroup other than its
>designated band which is Kiss; If YOU have a big problem sticking to
You continue to say that I have made none Kiss posts in the past, but so
far you have produced nothing more than talk..
Elsegroup is a MUD (Multi User Dimensions) term for another group,
nevertheless, there is nothing anymore wrong with my english than there
is with anyone elses, so much for accusations..
But you still have yet to bring any proof that I posted on other topics
unrelated to Kiss
>:Banzai88 (banz...@aol.com) wrote:
>: (could be worse, we could be getting spammed with sex ads all the time)
>:
>
>Oh God, I hope you don't jinx us with that comment! ;-)
>
>
Yikes, I never thought about that.
Chris
(typing with fingers crossed against sex-spam)
in a way, this one is non-Kiss related
See the thread entitled 'Kiss/Year 2000' where you are talking about space
aliens or something.
: Elsegroup is a MUD (Multi User Dimensions) term for another group,
: nevertheless, there is nothing anymore wrong with my english
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Uh, you were saying what?
: than there
: is with anyone elses, so much for accusations..
: But you still have yet to bring any proof that I posted on other topics
: unrelated to Kiss
See above. See also the Ticketmaster thread.
Can't we all just get along?
KISS and make-up.
-Chris
Fine, I'll drop it so long as he agrees to stop verbally assaulting people
for taking part in discussions that naturally wander over time.
I can't countenance people telling me what to do when they don't practice
what they preach, though.
> You continue to say that I have made none Kiss posts in the past, but so
> far you have produced nothing more than talk..
> Elsegroup is a MUD (Multi User Dimensions) term for another group,
> nevertheless, there is nothing anymore wrong with my english than there
> is with anyone elses, so much for accusations..
> But you still have yet to bring any proof that I posted on other topics
> unrelated to Kiss
I started the original Alice Cooper thread. Any "damage" I did to the
integrity of
this newsgroup has been far outdone by your petty whining. This thread
has gone on
for quite a while, despite the fact that my question has been long
answered.
You, in your self-righteous attempts to be NetCop, have perpetuated this
thread.
It is YOU who should go elsewhere to continue this. Perhaps
alt.whiners.incorporated
or alt.discussions.regarding.the.zen.of.newsgroup.discussion.
And by the way, when I read newsgroups, I mark "read" any headers that
don't seem interesting. If I see "Mariah Carey" in the subject, I just
mark it "read" and it's
out of my life forever! No need to get all upset!
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I see plenty of off topic post from your stupid puck ass all the time.
His question was related to kiss, so go get a job, and leave us alone
here.
Bullshit. You were whining about Ticketmaster a little bit back.
That doesn't qualify as being about KISS. So practice what you
preach.
Denny
You are the moron talking about space aliens in the 'Kiss/Year 2000'
thread. Is that KISS related somehow?? NOT.
Denny