Vinnie Vincent owns Eric Carr's Fox image
AJ
steveh99
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He was smart enough to beat Gene and Paul to it
Former Lee Warmer
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Frank The Poet
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But....it really doesn`t matter, cus Kiss (Gene and Paul) have used this on
a public release (albums, dvd`s etc) before, so if they take it to court
vinnie`s gonna lose.... Not sure Vinnie has read the law on this, but Kiss
is a registered trademark, wich means all-things-kiss, like make-ups and
music is owned by Kiss...
Frank
AJ
> But....it really doesn`t matter, cus Kiss (Gene and Paul) have used this on
> a public release (albums, dvd`s etc) before, so if they take it to court
> vinnie`s gonna lose.... Not sure Vinnie has read the law on this, but Kiss
> is a registered trademark, wich means all-things-kiss, like make-ups and
> music is owned by Kiss...
>
> Frank
*I disagree and if that were true then why don't KISS own Vinnie's
makeup and why couldn't KISS use Ace's makeup on the KISS My Ass
tribute album?
jd
I think your right AJ, but they can use it for a price and I wonder if that
is what some of the past law suits with Vinnie and KISS were about in part.
evadnikufesin
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That doesn't many any sense. I've SEEN the trademark certification
plaque for eric's makeup design. It said it was owned by the KISS Co.
(i.e. Gene Simmons) and it was awarded in 1980 shortly after Eric
joined the band.
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Wesley
> tribute album?
Good question - i hate that album cover. i think it should rework with ACE
make up
Strutter
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> I think your right AJ, but they can use it for a price and I wonder if
> that is what some of the past law suits with Vinnie and KISS were about in
> part.
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I read two of those lawsuits (I don't know if there were more), and those
didn't mention the image. They were strictly about the songs he wrote for
COTN, LIU, and Revenge. It's true that the image can be used for a price,
but only with the owner's permission. The problem with trademarks and
patents is that they don't stop other people from using the product, logo,
or image. It just gives the owner more recourse in a lawsuit. The owner of
the property rights still has to initiate the lawsuit. Any money that
Vinnie might have gotten from suing for use of the image probably wouldn't
have been worth the legal expenses. The songs he wrote were probably worth
a lot more because of royalties, etc. And really, what is Vinnie's image or
even Eric Carr's really worth since the band is strictly using the original
makeup now? I wouldn't buy them unless I just wanted bragging rights for
owning a piece of the history. I don't think either one of the trademarks
is good for any kind of revenue stream.
AJ
> That doesn't many any sense. I've SEEN the trademark certification
> plaque for eric's makeup design. It said it was owned by the KISS Co.
> (i.e. Gene Simmons) and it was awarded in 1980 shortly after Eric
> joined the band.
*It expired and Vinnie must have found out and renewed it in his name.
IMO, Eric's family should own this. Aucoin Management originally owned
it, but it expired on April 27 1989. If you need to see the original
form let me know. I would have posted it now, but as I write this
their (US Tradmark) website is down for routine maintenance .
Lukan
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Welcome to 2001.
evadnikufesin
> AJ wrote:
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> Welcome to 2001.
Hey that was completely NON-HELPFUL! Thanks Lickanass!
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Frank The Poet
Yes, just noticed. If it was in norway i would`ve been right though...lol.
Frank
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evadnikufesin
IOW, Vinnie is watching for Gene to slip up on trademarks expiring so
he can get some tablescraps since he feels slighted by Gene.
What a parasite.
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AJ
> IOW, Vinnie is watching for Gene to slip up on trademarks expiring so
> he can get some tablescraps since he feels slighted by Gene.
>
> What a parasite.
*I agree. I bet both of their lawyers are keeping an eye on the
expiration date of the trademarks and will make a mad dash the day of
expiration to try to get them.
Lukan
> Lukan wrote:
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>> AJ wrote:
>>> http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=75377959&acti
>>> on=Request+Status
>> Welcome to 2001.
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> Hey that was completely NON-HELPFUL! Thanks Lickanass!
You're not on TTS at the moment, nibblenuts.
evadnikufesin
> evadnikufesin wrote:
> > Lukan wrote:
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> > > AJ wrote:
> > > > http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=75377959&
> > > > acti on=Request+Status
> > > Welcome to 2001.
> >
> > Hey that was completely NON-HELPFUL! Thanks Lickanass!
>
> You're not on TTS at the moment, nibblenuts.
And you're STILL a donglicker, cocknobber!
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