OT: Is Eddie Vedder the new Jim Morrison?
The Space Boss
Morrison.
Do you agree?
Zelix
Hey pal.... not even fzcking close. Put down the crack pipe.
The Chris
6af20c...@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:
Agreed, he's not even this generations Van Morrison...
GoBucky
I'm a diehard PJ fan, and that thought has never crossed my mind.
Besides, Eddie never needed drugs, alcohol and recklessness to hide
behind.
The Chris
dd167a...@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
Yep, his dorkyness is right there for everybody to see :)
Ooooohh, that was a cheap shot... I always wondered why that guy doesn't get
respect... Any thoughts? I never dug them... I'd put Brett Michaels WAY up
higher on the list...
rushg...@yahoo.com
John Densmore would like him to be.
Last year, he said he would reunite with the Doors only if someone of
Vedder's caliber were the singer.
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"I'm not gonna join them with Ian. That's not to diss Ian, he's a good
singer - but he's no Jim Morrison. Eddie Vedder? My God, there's a
singer."
- John Densmore ('07)
M'Balz Es-Hari
news:f2d0d930-dbd9-4662...@34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
I thought the guy from Creed was doing some stuff with the Doors.
BTW, who played bass for them?
AJ
*I'm a Jim Morrison fan and NO Eddie is not anywhere close to Morrison.
The Boss of Space
Broncofan
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I hated the doors. Vedder's worse though.
The Boss of Space
> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:33:21 -0700 (PDT), AJ <misfitskiss...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Jul 15, 1:27?pm, The Space Boss <drsmith...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> Hardcore fans of Pearl Jam claim that Vedder is this generations Jim
> >> Morrison.
>
> >> Do you agree?
>
> >*I'm a Jim Morrison fan and NO Eddie is not anywhere close to Morrison.
>
> I hated the doors. Vedder's worse though.
You know as much about good music as you do about being straight.
In other words, absolutely nothing.
The Boss of Space
> wrote:
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> >On Jul 15, 1:27?pm, The Space Boss <drsmith...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> Hardcore fans of Pearl Jam claim that Vedder is this generations Jim
> >> Morrison.
>
> >> Do you agree?
>
> >*I'm a Jim Morrison fan and NO Eddie is not anywhere close to Morrison.
>
> I hated the doors. Vedder's worse though.
You know as much about good music as you do about being straight.
The Chris
news:vafq74957qtkfmht5...@4ax.com:
> On 15 Jul 2008 21:01:09 GMT, The Chris <cab...@nospam.hotmail.com>
> I met Brett Michaels on a couple of occasions, he was a real nice guy
> both times.
>
> db
> --
>
> "If You Think I Don't Like Her, Smell My Finger.
> If You Did, Why'd You Bring Her" - DPM
>
> The Many
> The Once Proud
> The KISS Marines
>
> Remember it's never to late to serve! Fight The AXIS OF SHEEPLE!
>
Yeah... agreed. And a great frontman...He is what he is.
The Chris
34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
What was his problem with Asterbury??? THAT guy IS the new Jim Morrison...
Did they ever record? Any known boots?? To me, that was a marraige made in
heaven.
The Chris
> On 16 Jul 2008 12:29:28 GMT, The Chris <cab...@nospam.hotmail.com>
> Man I agree wholeheartedly. Ian Astbury is way more self destructive
> like Morrison, although I do not know if modern times allow him to be
> the poet Jim was...
>
> db
> --
>
> "If You Think I Don't Like Her, Smell My Finger.
> If You Did, Why'd You Bring Her" - DPM
>
> The Many
> The Once Proud
> The KISS Marines
>
> Remember it's never to late to serve! Fight The AXIS OF SHEEPLE!
>
Well, let's face it... All that's needed is for him to go out and sing the
songs... You need 'the voice'... Just like Journey with that Asian guy...
(even though he's recording with them).
The Chris
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> On 16 Jul 2008 14:09:05 GMT, The Chris <cab...@nospam.hotmail.com>
> no you dont.
>
> Brian May and Roger Taylor got somebody who didnt sound like Freddie
> Mercury and they're doing fine. Sure, bunches of people got their
> knickers in a twist about it, but on the whole, they succeeded and
> apparently are carrying on.
>
> this thing about having to find a singer who sounds exactly like the
> old guy, I'll never understand that. Just get another guy who sounds
> good in his own right and keep going.
>
>
>
>
>
I don't agree with that with regards to Queen. I didn't like 'Return of the
Champions' at all.... Many bands have done what you've said... I'm sure we
could both name 30... But, for an older band (a 60's band).... who wouldn't
want to hear those classic tracks with a voice close to the original?
The Chris
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:20:57 -0400, Harry Palms
> <HPlaur...@yahoonospam.com> wrote:
>
>>On 16 Jul 2008 14:09:05 GMT, The Chris <cab...@nospam.hotmail.com>
>>no you dont.
>>
>>Brian May and Roger Taylor got somebody who didnt sound like Freddie
>>Mercury and they're doing fine. Sure, bunches of people got their
>>knickers in a twist about it, but on the whole, they succeeded and
>>apparently are carrying on.
>>
>>this thing about having to find a singer who sounds exactly like the
>>old guy, I'll never understand that. Just get another guy who sounds
>>good in his own right and keep going.
>>
>
> Brian and Roger didn't have much of a choice, there's only one
> Freddie. That said, your point is taken and you can use Dio replacing
> Ozzy in Sabbath as an example. The caveat to that is that I generally
> will never like the legacy material with a new singer, the band must
> create new material with the new singer and go from there.
>
> db
> --
>
> "If You Think I Don't Like Her, Smell My Finger.
> If You Did, Why'd You Bring Her" - DPM
>
> The Many
> The Once Proud
> The KISS Marines
>
> Remember it's never to late to serve! Fight The AXIS OF SHEEPLE!
Good example...Dio was 'fresh' for Sabbath... and they were only 10 years
into their career... The Doors.... they've been dormant for *quite* a while
:)
GoBucky
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> On 16 Jul 2008 14:09:05 GMT, The Chris <cab...@nospam.hotmail.com>
> wrote:
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> >themeekshallinhe...@the.newsgroup (Spinal Kiss) wrote in
> >news:corr741bisvle0tlv...@4ax.com:
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> >> On 16 Jul 2008 12:29:28 GMT, The Chris <cab...@nospam.hotmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> would be able to sing Doors songs with a whole lot more conviction
> than Vedder. No disrespect to Vedder, I like the guy but I think
> Astbury would do a better job.
>
> db
> --
>
> "If You Think I Don't Like Her, Smell My Finger.
> �If You Did, Why'd You Bring Her" - DPM
>
> The Many
> The Once Proud
> The KISS Marines
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Check out Vedder with the Doors in '92 when they were inducted into
the HOF...great stuff.
GoBucky
Correct...Vedder is much better!
GoBucky
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> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:12:06 -0700 (PDT), GoBucky <GoBuc...@aol.com>
> wrote:
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> >On Jul 16, 9:30?am, themeekshallinhe...@the.newsgroup (Spinal Kiss)
>
> >> >> The Many
> >> >> The Once Proud
> >> >> The KISS Marines
>
> >> >> Remember it's never to late to serve! Fight The AXIS OF SHEEPLE!
>
> >> >Well, let's face it... All that's needed is for him to go out and sing the
> >> >songs... You need 'the voice'... Just like Journey with that Asian guy...
> >> >(even though he's recording with them).
>
> >> Yup and he's got that voice (or at least had it). I think Astbury
> >> would be able to sing Doors songs with a whole lot more conviction
> >> than Vedder. No disrespect to Vedder, I like the guy but I think
> >> Astbury would do a better job.
>
> >> db
> >> --
>
> >> "If You Think I Don't Like Her, Smell My Finger.
>
> >> The Many
> >> The Once Proud
> >> The KISS Marines
>
> >> Remember it's never to late to serve! Fight The AXIS OF SHEEPLE!- Hide quoted text -
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> >> - Show quoted text -
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> >Check out Vedder with the Doors in '92 when they were inducted into
> >the HOF...great stuff.
>
> reconstituted Doors, I just don't see Eddie as the singer. I'd put
> Scott Weiland in front of him and of course the aforementioned
> Astbury. I also wouldn't mind hearing Sebastian Bach or Bono take on a
> few numbers.
>
> db
> --
>
> "If You Think I Don't Like Her, Smell My Finger.
> �If You Did, Why'd You Bring Her" - DPM
>
> The Many
> The Once Proud
> The KISS Marines
>
> Remember it's never to late to serve! Fight The AXIS OF SHEEPLE!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Scott Weiland? Seriously? He could play the role of Jim Morrison's
lifestyle pretty well, but singing? Not! Bach with the Doors? That
wasn't a serious was it?
rushg...@yahoo.com
>this thing about having to find a singer who sounds
>exactly like the old guy, I'll never understand that.
>Just get another guy who sounds good in his own
>right and keep going.
Amen brother.
The Chris
> On 16 Jul 2008 15:20:54 GMT, The Chris <cab...@nospam.hotmail.com>
> I really liked it.
>
> I liked Freddie, too, but, I liked what the new line-up was doing too.
>
>
>
Paul Rodgers voice was cracking in the early 70's when he was singing 'All
Right Now' :)
I felt they chose many 'lower register' songs for that outing, and if it
called for a high part, either somebody else did it, or he sang it lower.
I mean, the argument can be made both ways..... "he's making it his own/I
want to hear a clone" etc..... True, Freddie was an icon, but, it's a
shame that great arena stuff like that isn't being sung... while they sing
'All right Now' :)
The Chris
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:35:47 -0400, themeeksh...@the.newsgroup
> (Spinal Kiss) wrote:
>
>
>>Brian and Roger didn't have much of a choice, there's only one
>>Freddie. That said, your point is taken and you can use Dio replacing
>>Ozzy in Sabbath as an example. The caveat to that is that I generally
>>will never like the legacy material with a new singer, the band must
>>create new material with the new singer and go from there.
>>
>
> I see your point, but, I dont even care about the legacy material. Its
> just a singer, to me, as replaceable as anybody else.
>
> most people probably wont agree with me.
>
> most people dont actually work with singers, either.
>
>
If you don't care about the legacy material... Then, you're not a Queen fan,
and it's silly of you to comment.... We're not talking about finding a
replacement for the singer of 'Danger Kitty'.... These are iconic songs!
The Chris
news:ta3v74tni1klt86h3...@4ax.com:
> On 17 Jul 2008 17:19:06 GMT, The Chris <cab...@nospam.hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Harry Palms <HPlaur...@yahoonospam.com> wrote in
>>news:s8qu741vj3969anir...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:35:47 -0400, themeeksh...@the.newsgroup
>>> (Spinal Kiss) wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Brian and Roger didn't have much of a choice, there's only one
>>>>Freddie. That said, your point is taken and you can use Dio replacing
>>>>Ozzy in Sabbath as an example. The caveat to that is that I generally
>>>>will never like the legacy material with a new singer, the band must
>>>>create new material with the new singer and go from there.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I see your point, but, I dont even care about the legacy material. Its
>>> just a singer, to me, as replaceable as anybody else.
>>>
>>> most people probably wont agree with me.
>>>
>>> most people dont actually work with singers, either.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>If you don't care about the legacy material... Then, you're not a Queen
fan,
>>and it's silly of you to comment....
>
>
> I'm a big queen fan. I saw them on the Game tour. My last band played
> Crazy Little Thing called Love at every gig. Brian May's one of my
> favorites.
>
> I dont mind Paul Rodgers singing Freddie's songs. He does a good job,
> in his own right. He didnt write them. I dont think it tarnishes or
> disrespects Freddie at all.
>
> Why is it ok for Tommy Thayer to play Frehleys stuff note for note but
> its not ok for somebody else to sing a singers old stuff?
>
> Is it bad for Brian Johnson to sing a Bon Scott ACDC song?
>
> dont tell me "its different for singers" because its not, in my book
>
>
>
That must have been a cool tour!! I saw 'Hot Space'...
I don't mind Rodgers either, but, he wouldn't be my first choice.. That's
all I'm saying...
As for Kiss... Slightly different - they were marketed as 'characters'...
AS for Johnson... I can't freakin' stand the guy, and with the exception of
Back in Black (which I suspect Scott actually wrote) he's done NOTHING for
me.
AJ
> AS for Johnson... I can't freakin' stand the guy, and with the exception of
> Back in Black (which I suspect Scott actually wrote) he's done NOTHING for
> me.
*Blasphemy. ;-)
AJ
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> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:47:23 -0400, themeekshallinhe...@the.newsgroup
>
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> (Spinal Kiss) wrote:
> >On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:46:27 -0400, Harry Palms
> ><HPlaurapal...@yahoonospam.com> wrote:
>
> >>On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:35:47 -0400, themeekshallinhe...@the.newsgroup
> >>(Spinal Kiss) wrote:
>
> >>>Brian and Roger didn't have much of a choice, there's only one
> >>>Freddie. That said, your point is taken and you can use Dio replacing
> >>>Ozzy in Sabbath as an example. The caveat to that is that I generally
> >>>will never like the legacy material with a new singer, the band must
> >>>create new material with the new singer and go from there.
>
> >>I see your point, but, I dont even care about the legacy material. Its
> >>just a singer, to me, as replaceable as anybody else.
>
> >>most people probably wont agree with me.
>
> >>most people dont actually work with singers, either.
>
> >the minority and I think you're right about that, so there's really
> >nothing more to say.
>
> >Do you feel that your experience with singers egos are influencing and
> >potentially clouding your position on this?
>
> but of course.
>
> whats the true definition of LSD?
*Lucifer, Satan, Devil?
GoBucky
> >Is Eddie Vedder the new Jim Morrison?
>
> John Densmore would like him to be.
> Last year, he said he would reunite with the Doors only if someone of
> Vedder's caliber were the singer.
>
> =====
>
> "I'm not gonna join them with Ian. That's not to diss Ian, he's a good
> singer - but he's no Jim Morrison. Eddie Vedder? My God, there's a
> singer."
>
> - John Densmore ('07)
I hope everyone was able to watch Pearl Jam simply bring the house
down at the Who's Rock Honors tonight. Performances like that is why
people like Densmore want Eddie Vedder to sing in their band.
Broncofan
wrote:
This is Kiss NG thanks. I was hoping you meant they actually DID bring
the house down. Too bad.
The Chris
b5a7df...@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com:
I like Back in Black... Not much after... To me, Scott was SUCH a good
frontman..
GoBucky
> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:55:20 -0700 (PDT), GoBucky <GoBuc...@aol.com>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Wow, first you quote C. Love and now Wesley? The walls are caving in!