Please help a progressive rock junkie
Joseph Thomas
In this age of "bland rock", I'm musically starved. Thank goodness
for increasingly rare bands like King's X for their continuous
*musical* innovation (not gimmicky, "false" innovation); however, if I
listen to my Tapehead CD one more time, I'm going to "overlisten" it
and get depressed. I miss the days when there was great new music to
look forward to every month or so, and now I keep finding myself going
back to earlier parts of my collection to satisfy my musical
tastebuds.
Can anyone reccommend any good, fresh progressive rock bands to listen
to right now? Something a Rush/Yes/King's X junkie would be into? I
don't care if they're mainstream or not. Hell, it may even be a band
that plays at your local bar every Thursday, that just cut their first
CD. Frequent voice harmonies a big plus.
Suggestions are much appreciated
Ray
Pinnickphanatic
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Matt
They are on Metal Blade as well, thought they are very very far from metal.
They seemed to be like Kansas and a little Yes. They seem to fit your
description well. They use vocal Harmonies, and their music is compex and
longer than thn usual bands. Give them a try I think you'll like them. you
can prob, get some info about them on the metal blade site
MCA
James Carlson
couple of weeks, though I have only heard one song of theirs. But I keep
hearing/reading references to them on this ng and other places, so I gotta check
'em out! Tour info available on the Metal Blade site.
James
Ny skins
1. billy sheehan- NIACIN
consists of leslie b-3, drums and of course billy on bass, absolutely kick
booty........
2. platypus, of course
3. dream theater, any/all are killer
4. greg howe, guitarist, one of ty's faves(schrapnel records)
5. steve smith (yes, of journey,has killer side band, heavy jazz)
6. tony macalpine (edge of insanity, with sheehan)
7. black light syndrome (bozzio,levin,stevens)
these, just to name a few......
later, ron t.
Londo Mollari
>
> In this age of "bland rock", I'm musically starved. ...
> to right now?
Although some would argue defining the band as progressive, I would
highly recommend Radiohead's "Ok Computer" CD. Best album I've heard
in years, from any band.
Chris Tsirbas
Ed in West LA
>
>In this age of "bland rock", I'm musically starved. Thank goodness
>for increasingly rare bands like King's X for their continuous
>*musical* innovation (not gimmicky, "false" innovation); however, if I
>listen to my Tapehead CD one more time, I'm going to "overlisten" it
>and get depressed. I miss the days when there was great new music to
>look forward to every month or so, and now I keep finding myself going
>back to earlier parts of my collection to satisfy my musical
>tastebuds.
>
>Can anyone reccommend any good, fresh progressive rock bands to listen
>to right now? Something a Rush/Yes/King's X junkie would be into? I
>don't care if they're mainstream or not. Hell, it may even be a band
>that plays at your local bar every Thursday, that just cut their first
>CD. Frequent voice harmonies a big plus.
>
>Suggestions are much appreciated
Check out rec.music.progressive on your newserver or on dejanews. They
will give you ample suggestions on what to look for in current and
even past stuff. King's X isn't as rare as alot of stuff that is out
there. I know, I was just a Rush/Yes listener myself. Then I got on
the net, and whammo, all sorts of stuff that I never heard of. Now I'm
inundated with stuff to listen to. Hope this hooks you up.
Ed
Randy Elliott
Zemborato
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> Joseph Thomas wrote:
> >
> > In this age of "bland rock", I'm musically starved. ...
> > Can anyone reccommend any good, fresh progressive rock bands to listen
> > to right now?
>
> highly recommend Radiohead's "Ok Computer" CD. Best album I've heard
> in years, from any band.
>
> Chris Tsirbas
Agreed. OK Computer is the second best release of the '90s, following
Little Earthquakes. IMO of course.
Also the Spock's Beard suggestion is a good one, however, I had my hopes up
a little too high for them. Better than most, but not exactly premium
progressive. But what is anymore?
Genesis: Foxtrot through Lamb, if you haven't gotten them yet.
Stravinsky, Sebelius, Holst, and Rimsky-Korsakov also come to mind, if you
have any classical leanings.
Here is my personal wish list, based primarily from comments on All-Music
guide (not necessarily prog):
Gandolf: Gallery of Dreams
Eddie Jobson: Theme of secrets
Zazen: Enlightenment
Amazing Blondel: England
Robert Wyatt: Rock Bottom
Comments or ideas anyone?
Zemborato
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Joseph Thomas
Oh yes- I've "listened out" just about every Kansas album released as
well. Perfect example of what I'm looking for, though. One of my
favorite albums of all time is actually Kansas- Power (the "new"
Kansas). Came out in '85, and to my amazement, hit the bargain bins
only two or three years later. Not one song on that album was less
than great.
Ctwospoons
>> Can anyone reccommend any good, fresh progressive rock bands to listen
>> to right now?
Although some of these are not new:
Zebrahead
Incubus
Far
Failure
Kid Rock (if you can handle the foul language)
Dag (used to be one of Doug's fave bands - still may be -- I think)
Train of Thought (local Houston band)
Project 232 (local Dallas band)
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true desire, bed myself on barbed wire, and while you arise, all I can do is
agonize
Pinnickphanatic
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Tim Martin
Joseph Thomas wrote in message ...
>
>Oh yes- I've "listened out" just about every Kansas album released as
>well. Perfect example of what I'm looking for, though. One of my
>favorite albums of all time is actually Kansas- Power (the "new"
>Kansas). Came out in '85, and to my amazement, hit the bargain bins
>only two or three years later. Not one song on that album was less
>than great.
I like "Power" (Taking in the View makes me very emotional) as well... also
"In the Spirit of Things." Those two albums were recorded with Steve Morse
as the guitarist. He and Steve Walsh have been friends forever. If you like
Kansas, and/or Steve Morse, try to find Steve Walsh's solo album
"Schemer-Dreamer." Very tough to find... I have it on a Japanese import...
but it is truly a great album... Steve Morse, Robby Steinhart, and Phil
Ehart do most of the instrumentals on that album (besides Steve Walsh's
organ playing).
Kansas latest, "Freaks of Nature", has some good moments on it as well.
And speaking of Steve Morse... try his solo albums, or just about anything
by the "Dregs" or "Dixie Dregs." My favorite Dregs album is "What If." Have
been alble to find it pretty easily. Also, "Dregs of the Earth" and
"Industry" are great albums.
Finally, Steve Walsh had a great band in the early '80's called "Streets."
They released two albums: "1st", and "Crimes in Mind." I have yet to find
either on CD, but they do have a KB Flower Hour live recording that you can
order at your local record store (it's a very good recording too). This band
was more hard rock than prog, but has some great playing on it (Mark Slamer
on guitar). Incidentally, the bass player for Streets, Billy Greer, replaced
Dave Hope on bass in the "Power" and "In the Spirit of Things" lineup for
Kansas (he may also be on Freaks... will have to check). My favorite Kansas
of all time, though, is "Song for America." The title track and "Lonely
Street" give me goosebumps.
Tim
CountV
> Oh yes- I've "listened out" just about every Kansas album released as
> well. Perfect example of what I'm looking for, though. One of my
> favorite albums of all time is actually Kansas- Power (the "new"
> Kansas). Came out in '85, and to my amazement, hit the bargain bins
> only two or three years later. Not one song on that album was less
> than great.
Then you'd most likely love Spock's Beard. I loathe them even more than
Kansas.
Not to be facetious, but I think, in all friendliness, that SB are about as
much up your alley as it is possible to be.
CountV
NP: Cardiacs - The Seaside
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Walker
Tim Martin
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>
>Stravinsky, Sebelius, Holst, and Rimsky-Korsakov also come to mind, if you
>have any classical leanings.
>
Don't forget Paul Hindemith (best: Symphonic Metamorphosis), Dmitri
Shostakovich (best: 4th Symphony... particularly the Finale), Bela Bartok
(best: Concerto for Orchestra... IT ROCKS!), Aaron Copeland (best:
Appalachian Spring), Leonard Bernstein (best: Overture to Candide), Paul
Whear (best: Of This Time), John Barnes Chance (best: Blue Lake Overture),
and Vaclav Nelhybel (best: toss up between Music for Orchestra and Estampie)
Tim
Cecrle
>
>In this age of "bland rock", I'm musically starved. Thank goodness
>for increasingly rare bands like King's X for their continuous
>*musical* innovation (not gimmicky, "false" innovation); however, if I
>listen to my Tapehead CD one more time, I'm going to "overlisten" it
>and get depressed. I miss the days when there was great new music to
>look forward to every month or so, and now I keep finding myself going
>back to earlier parts of my collection to satisfy my musical
>tastebuds.
>
>don't care if they're mainstream or not. Hell, it may even be a band
>that plays at your local bar every Thursday, that just cut their first
>CD. Frequent voice harmonies a big plus.
Mercury Rev, perhaps?
-FC
Jeremy S.
What about Dream Theater? Have you tried them?
You might also like some of King Crimson's 70s work, too.
--Jeremy
Tim Martin
CountV wrote in message <7hcp8b$k8p$1...@autumn.news.rcn.net>...
>Then you'd most likely love Spock's Beard. I loathe them even more than
>Kansas.
>
A ringing endorsement of both bands. I've never even heard them, but now
that the Count has given his opinion, I can safely say that Spock's Beard
belongs in the top 10 of my favorite bands. I'll buy their CD's today.
Tim
Tetany
CountV wrote in message <7hcp8b$k8p$1...@autumn.news.rcn.net>...
>Then you'd most likely love Spock's Beard. I loathe them even more than
>Kansas.
Hi CountV,
If, by loathe, you mean that you really don't like Spock's Beard (I've never
heard them), then can you suggest some other music that you do like and that
would be nice to listen to after the members of YES are sent to their
respective convalescent centers?
I ask that because I think my taste in music is a bit narrow. YES, Steve
Howe, Jon Anderson, King Crimson. Well, now that I look at it, it is not
THAT narrow. But any suggestions for alternate tunes, surely, surely.
(would be appreciated).
Tetany
NP: Nothing : (
CountV
> CountV wrote in message <7hcp8b$k8p$1...@autumn.news.rcn.net>...
>>Then you'd most likely love Spock's Beard. I loathe them even more than
>>Kansas.
>>
>
> A ringing endorsement of both bands. I've never even heard them, but now
> that the Count has given his opinion, I can safely say that Spock's Beard
> belongs in the top 10 of my favorite bands. I'll buy their CD's today.
Here's some more stuff I hate that you can spend you hard-earned money on;
The Fugees
Sean 'Puffy' Combs
Air
The Orb
Lynyrd Skynyrd
Oasis
Creedence Clearwater Revival
Daft Punk
The Eagles
Bob Marley
Celine Dion
Neil Young
You're welcome.
CountV
NP: David Holmes - Let's Get Killed <--stay away from this, 'cause I think
it's great.
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sensation of a coma without the worry and inconvenience." - Bill Bryson
CountV
> CountV wrote in message <7hcp8b$k8p$1...@autumn.news.rcn.net>...
>
>>Then you'd most likely love Spock's Beard. I loathe them even more than
>>Kansas.
>
>
> Hi CountV,
>
> If, by loathe, you mean that you really don't like Spock's Beard (I've never
> heard them),
Yeah, I really mean "loathe".
> then can you suggest some other music that you do like and that
> would be nice to listen to after the members of YES are sent to their
> respective convalescent centers?
Well, if you're asking about contemporary prog, I would recommend
Discipline, IQ, Echolyn, Änglagård and The Flower Kings. (the last three
aren't exactly super faves, but they're not bad, and a lot of proggies like
them a _lot_).
>
> I ask that because I think my taste in music is a bit narrow. YES, Steve
> Howe, Jon Anderson, King Crimson. Well, now that I look at it, it is not
> THAT narrow. But any suggestions for alternate tunes, surely, surely.
> (would be appreciated).
I don't know how familiar you are with 70's stuff, but the 'classics' should
be checked out; Van Der Graaf Generator, Gentle Giant, Jethro Tull, Genesis
and from what little I have heard National Health sound fantastic. Also, _I_
don't like 'em much, but ELP seems to hold great appeal for many Yes fans.
CountV
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stump" - Murray Walker
Mike Smith
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>
> Mercury Rev, perhaps?
Fancy meetin' you here, eh? ;-)
How' bout King Crimson?
--
Mike Smith. No, the other one.
Carl Descarfino
By and On The Surface. Unfortunately they have recently broken up but
you can purchase their cd's directly from their website. I also
recommend Atomic Opera-For Madmen Only who just recently signed on with
Metal Blade.
Carl
Atrox
but not all Rush fans like Dream Theater. They’re more technical than
Rush, and have some of the finest musicians imaginable. The drummer and
lead guitarist are virtually peerless, IMO. I’d try AWAKE, their second
CD. I think its some of the best prog rock out there. One problem with
Dream Theater is that the albums are very different from one another,
so just because you like/dislike one doesn’t mean you’ll like/dislike
the others.
Fates Warning has good singing and good musicianship, although they are
not as technical or complex as Dream Theater or early Rush. They have a
greatest hits CD called CHASING TIME. It should give you a pretty good
representation of their stuff.
If you like Kansas, you’ll probably like a band called Enchant on the
Magna Carta label. Not as heavy as Dream Theater or as brooding as
Fates Warning, but an interesting band none the less.
Symphony X is a good band. I think DIVINE WINGS OF TRAGEDY is their
best release. It is pretty progressive with good vocal harmonies. The
lead guitarist is world renowned. The music is highly influenced by
Yngwie Malmsteen, but with some definite progressive leanings.
You can hear sound clips of these and many other similar bands at:
http://headymetal.simplenet.com/index.html
In fact, if you haven’t been to this web site, stop reading and go
there now!!!!
Hope this helps. Feel free to email if you want more info.
Rick
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Tim Martin
CountV wrote in message <7hct1t$cbd$1...@autumn.news.rcn.net>...
>"Tim Martin" <tmarti...@elithic.com> wrote:
>Here's some more stuff I hate that you can spend you hard-earned money on;
>
Love 'em. Saw their last real concert in 1978 before the accident.
>Creedence Clearwater Revival
Also love 'em.
>The Eagles
Love them too. Especially Joe Walsh.
>Neil Young
Great stuff. Of course, Harvest is a classic.
Tim
amwatts
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CountV
Of _course_ it is. I'm glad that you set me straight on this
incontrovertible fact, lest I go through life thinking that it's just
off-key nasal whining set to humdrum country rock.
I see you conveniently ignored most of the list. You disappoint me. Now go
buy all CDs of the artists you snipped out. I dare ya.
CountV
--
"I make no apologies for their absence...
I'm sorry, they're not here." - Murray Walker
Tetany
CountV wrote in message <7hctdh$e88$1...@autumn.news.rcn.net>...
>Well, if you're asking about contemporary prog, I would recommend
>Discipline, IQ, Echolyn, Änglagård and The Flower Kings. (the last three
>aren't exactly super faves, but they're not bad, and a lot of proggies like
>them a _lot_).
Thank you boocoo!
>I don't know how familiar you are with 70's stuff, but the 'classics'
should
>be checked out; Van Der Graaf Generator, Gentle Giant, Jethro Tull, Genesis
>and from what little I have heard National Health sound fantastic. Also,
_I_
>don't like 'em much, but ELP seems to hold great appeal for many Yes fans.
Yes, I've enjoyed some of this but was more hoping for something to propel
me forware into the next millennium (or even the next year). Thanks for
your help!
Tetany
"Life is hard? So what. Let us love it anyway--though it break every bone
in our bodies." EA
Mike Smith
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> Cecrle <mce...@sbt.infi.net> wrote in message
> news:7hcp4o$sa7$5...@nw001t.infi.net...
> >
> > Mercury Rev, perhaps?
>
> Fancy meetin' you here, eh? ;-)
>
Oops, didn't realize that this thread was on a.m.r. I was wondering what
you were doing on a.m.y.! ;-)
Serra
>
>In this age of "bland rock", I'm musically starved. Thank goodness
>for increasingly rare bands like King's X for their continuous
>*musical* innovation (not gimmicky, "false" innovation); however, if I
>listen to my Tapehead CD one more time, I'm going to "overlisten" it
>and get depressed. I miss the days when there was great new music to
>look forward to every month or so, and now I keep finding myself going
>back to earlier parts of my collection to satisfy my musical
>tastebuds.
>
>Can anyone reccommend any good, fresh progressive rock bands to listen
>to right now? Something a Rush/Yes/King's X junkie would be into? I
>don't care if they're mainstream or not. Hell, it may even be a band
>that plays at your local bar every Thursday, that just cut their first
>CD. Frequent voice harmonies a big plus.
Oooookay, you probably don't want to ask ME this question right now.
I've been in a weird mood lately, and have been listening a LOT to
Metallica's "Ride The Lightning" and right now, I'm listening to
Testament - "Return To The Apocalyptic City". I'm THISCLOSE to pulling
out some Nugent or Judas Priest right now...maybe some Alice Cooper. :)
TOLD ya I'm in a weird mood! Just call me the Metal Maniac!
Seriously, tho, what about Collective Soul? I know, I know...I just KNOW
I am going to get flamed for that! That's cool, tho...I like them, tho,
they are pretty cool. Not sure how 'hard' you want to go. How about
Genesis? (Have youd one them to death yet? hehehe) And, I'll admit to
a guilty pleasure: I totally love the Brian Setzer Orchestra! (Serra
gets her flame-retardant suit on...) Well, I can't help it. I was a
Stray Cats fan (suit STILL ON!), and have always liked swing music.
Oooooookay again! I'm going to shup now, cuz I bet y'all think I'm wacko
now! LOL! :)
~Serra~
(who also has a Rush tribute page if you wanna check it out)
Jeff Fletcher
are Tool, Dream Theater, Marillion, Joe Satriani, Stu Hamm (put out a few
obscure albums in the '80s) and occasionally, Tangerine Dream (for an
instrumental flair).
dsing...@ibm.net
Tellus. You can only buy their stuff direct from their website:
http://www.flash.net/~tellus. Mustard Seeds were rumored to be Ty's
favorite band. And I'm sure you are already familiar with Galactic Cowboys
who positively RULE.
P & G
Don't forget Pink Floyd! And I'm not just talking about tired old radio
(very) friendly Dark Side of the Moon or even The Wall (both of which are
really good anyway, but I don't think Floyd can be judged on those alone)
Atom Heart Mother is probably one of my favorite non-Yes albums. It's got
a nice, long, changing, sweeping Atom Heart Mother Suite on side 1 (or 2,
I'm not sure) with an incredible ending that takes a good five minutes or
so. Great (and I mean GREAT) guitar. Gilmore is bad to the bone. Also
look for: Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast. Never has an instrumental so
accurately described the peace and contentment of eating a good breakfast.
(and I'm not even kidding). Rick Wright is a way underestimated keyboard
player.
Animals is awesome, again, great guitar, great keys, great lyrics, Pigs is
such a cool tune. (Sheep is pretty excellent, too)
Wish You Were Here
Meddle and
Piper at the Gates of Dawn are *definitely* worthy of a listen, as well.
I'm sorry to ramble, but sometimes people have never even given Floyd much
of a chance because of their almost "cliche" rock status.
-Ginny.
Ctwospoons
Denise
For some reason Emerson Lake and Palmer come to mind, though my
passion de jour is Duke Ellington :)
Denise
>In this age of "bland rock", I'm musically starved. *snip*
>
>Suggestions are much appreciated
Sandy Mackay
"Mezzanine" - Massive Attack
"Pure Phase" - Spiritualized
"Islands" - King Crimson (re-mastered, so it sort of counts :) )
"Group of Seven" - The Rheostatics (they have played with Neil Peart as
well...)
Hope this helps...
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The cruelest fiction promoted by schools, advertising
agencies, politicians, and the stewards of the status
quo is that everyone has something to say; that your
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Chances are, you don't."
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Glenn Schupner
Badger
Bloodrock
Hawkwind
Ghost
> Can anyone reccommend any good, fresh progressive rock bands to listen
> to right now? Something a Rush/Yes/King's X junkie would be into? I
> don't care if they're mainstream or not. Hell, it may even be a band
> that plays at your local bar every Thursday, that just cut their first
> CD. Frequent voice harmonies a big plus.
>
First, check out Ghostland (sorry for the self promotion)
Second, get on over to rec.music.progressive
Here are some suggestions:
Start with the biggies: Dream Theater, Spock's Beard,
Gentle Giant, Genesis (1970s), Kansas, King Crimson,
Echolyn, Ozric Tentacles, Van Der Graaf Generator, Dixie
Dreg, U.K., Marillion, IQ...
Once you try some of them, dive into the progressive
underground. There are plently of prog gems down here.
Hope that helps!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ghost, qgh...@fast.net
Ghostland, http://ghostland.com
NEARfest, http://ghostland.com/nearfest/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Joseph Thomas
until today! I've so far gotten loads of great suggestions for some
fresh prog/hard rock, even classical, that I crave to listen to.
After reading the responses, I've spent two hours with Real Audio on
cdnow.com, mouth watering. As everyone mentioned, I almost instantly
liked Dream Theater. Thanks for all responses.
Just curious, Count- you seem to have a snobbish (I mean that in a
friendly way ;-) read: discerning) taste in music. I find it
interesting that you loathe bands like Kansas, and would like to know
why you don't like them, and Spock's Beard (which I haven't heard
yet). Would I like SB because they "sound" like Kansas, or because
thier songs are melodically similar? It will likely influence my
decision on what to give a try. I happen to really like Kansas, but
never really cared for Pink Floyd, Skynyrd, and especially not Dylan
or the Dead. Do you like those bands? What are your favs?
TIA,
Joe
"CountV" <cou...@REMOVETHISPARTiname.com> writes:
> Then you'd most likely love Spock's Beard. I loathe them even more than
> Kansas.
>
Joseph Thomas
Thanks Ghost- great website! Think I'll be spending some time there.
JT
Geezer Butler
P & G wrote:
>
> Pink Floyd!
Mike Pelczarski
wimpy, but the music is really cool, and once you get used to the
vocals.... they're pretty great!
mike P>
Joseph Thomas wrote:
> In this age of "bland rock", I'm musically starved. Thank goodness
> for increasingly rare bands like King's X for their continuous
> *musical* innovation (not gimmicky, "false" innovation); however, if I
> listen to my Tapehead CD one more time, I'm going to "overlisten" it
> and get depressed. I miss the days when there was great new music to
> look forward to every month or so, and now I keep finding myself going
> back to earlier parts of my collection to satisfy my musical
> tastebuds.
>
> Can anyone reccommend any good, fresh progressive rock bands to listen
> to right now? Something a Rush/Yes/King's X junkie would be into? I
> don't care if they're mainstream or not. Hell, it may even be a band
> that plays at your local bar every Thursday, that just cut their first
> CD. Frequent voice harmonies a big plus.
>
> Suggestions are much appreciated
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CountV
> Just curious, Count- you seem to have a snobbish (I mean that in a
> friendly way ;-) read: discerning) taste in music. I find it
> interesting that you loathe bands like Kansas, and would like to know
> why you don't like them, and Spock's Beard (which I haven't heard
> yet). Would I like SB because they "sound" like Kansas, or because
> thier songs are melodically similar?
The short explanation; FM radio melodies/harmonies. About as far out of my
bag as you can get.
I have a real hard time with blues rock, country rock and AOR and most
related forms. I find Spock's Beard to be an FM radio band with proggy bits
tacked on, completely without any coherence to the actual _songs_.
> It will likely influence my
> decision on what to give a try. I happen to really like Kansas, but
> never really cared for Pink Floyd, Skynyrd, and especially not Dylan
> or the Dead. Do you like those bands? What are your favs?
I _used_ to be a _major_ PF-head in my late teens, but that was before I
drifted into Prog, but as noted above, Dylan, the Dead and Skynyrd mine
areas that do nothing for me.
My faves - and now we'll be outside of prog real fast - are; Yes (well,
duh), Gentle Giant, Momus, Prefab Sprout, The Divine Comedy, Massive Attack,
Pulp, Orbital, Jethro Tull, Van Der Graaf Generator, The Meters, Faith No
More, XTC, Squarepusher, The Cardiacs, David Sylvian, Bill Withers, Tom
Jones, James Brown, Led Zeppelin, Omar Santana (no, not the guitarist,
though he's not bad - this is just another guy) ... Well, that will have to
do, even though I know I've forgotten at least as many truly great artists.
CountV
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rightly love your brethren of the cradle if you love not the common mother.
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Jeff Cecil
It ain't new but if you haven't heard Mike Oldfield outside of Tubular Bells
you might want to check out Crisis, QE2, Platinum or even TB2. Discovery
and 5 Miles Out have some great moments as well. His later work gets a
little spotty (popish) but he had a bunch of good prog style albums after
TB. Omadawn, Hergest(spelling?) Ridge and Incantations are more on the
mellow side but are good for those times you want quiet prog rock.
I saw Dream Theatre listed in here. The drums and guitar kick but does
anyone else think the lyrics are stupid and the keyboards sound like a $20
casio besides me?
FM used to open for Rush and they are fairly good. Also, UK put out some
good stuff. Jobson put out a couple solo albums that are not bad either.
I personally am finding it easier to find old prog bands I never heard of
than to find new ones that sound good.
Thanks for this thread. I'm following it closely hoping for a flyer.
Jeff
Mike Pelczarski <pe...@javanet.com> wrote in message
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>
>In this age of "bland rock", I'm musically starved. Thank goodness
>for increasingly rare bands like King's X for their continuous
>*musical* innovation (not gimmicky, "false" innovation); however, if I
>listen to my Tapehead CD one more time, I'm going to "overlisten" it
>and get depressed. I miss the days when there was great new music to
>look forward to every month or so, and now I keep finding myself going
>back to earlier parts of my collection to satisfy my musical
>tastebuds.
>
>Can anyone reccommend any good, fresh progressive rock bands to listen
>to right now? Something a Rush/Yes/King's X junkie would be into? I
>don't care if they're mainstream or not. Hell, it may even be a band
>that plays at your local bar every Thursday, that just cut their first
>CD. Frequent voice harmonies a big plus.
>
>Suggestions are much appreciated
there are quite a few contemporary scandanavian progressive bands that
are really excellent. Anglagaard (unfortunately no longer around) and
Anekdoten are two of my favorites.
check out
http://home2.swipnet.se/~w-25753/anekdoten/
to learn about anekdoten. both of their studio albums that i have,
Nucleus and Vemod, are among my personal top 5 of the 90's. they have
been compared to "Red"- era King Crimson, but that is an
understatement, and especially on Nucleus, they have really spread out
to different styles. good stuff.
john turner
get rid o'them pesky underlines (jmt) and email away
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>there are quite a few contemporary scandanavian progressive bands that
>are really excellent. Anglagaard (unfortunately no longer around) and
>Anekdoten are two of my favorites.
Not to mention LANDBERK if they are also from the same area. (And even if
they're not)
(_____|_____)
salads are working
b
T-Man
Especially the second album "Scenery And Fish". Totally amazing. Jag
(git) and his brother Christian (drums) are sweet on the ears. If you
haven't heard them definitely check them out. You wont' be sorry.
--
Travis
Coeur de Lion
All Prog bands there.
JasonB
Zemborato wrote:
> Londo Mollari <lo...@housemollari.org> wrote in message
> news:3739C8...@housemollari.org...
> > Joseph Thomas wrote:
> > >
> > > In this age of "bland rock", I'm musically starved. ...
> > > Can anyone reccommend any good, fresh progressive rock bands to listen
> > > to right now?
> >
> > Although some would argue defining the band as progressive, I would
> > highly recommend Radiohead's "Ok Computer" CD. Best album I've heard
> > in years, from any band.
> >
> > Chris Tsirbas
>
> Agreed. OK Computer is the second best release of the '90s, following
> Little Earthquakes. IMO of course.
> Never heard alll of it. But wouldn't mind trying.
>
> Also the Spock's Beard suggestion is a good one, however, I had my hopes up
> a little too high for them. Better than most, but not exactly premium
> progressive. But what is anymore?
> same as above
>
> Genesis: Foxtrot through Lamb, if you haven't gotten them yet.
Awesome!!! I never get tired of this stuff!! Add EARLY KIng Crimson to this list as
well.
>
> Stravinsky, Sebelius, Holst, and Rimsky-Korsakov also come to mind, if you
> have any classical leanings.
> Yeah, haven't listened or had the opportunity to really.
>
> Here is my personal wish list, based primarily from comments on All-Music
> guide (not necessarily prog):
>
> Gandolf: Gallery of Dreams
> Eddie Jobson: Theme of secrets
> Zazen: Enlightenment
> Amazing Blondel: England
> Robert Wyatt: Rock Bottom
>
> Comments or ideas anyone?
>
> Zemborato
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Tim Martin
CountV wrote in message <7hd0gh$2ku$1...@autumn.news.rcn.net>...
>
>>>"Tim Martin" <tmarti...@elithic.com> wrote:
>> Great stuff. Of course, Harvest is a classic.
>
>Of _course_ it is. I'm glad that you set me straight on this
>incontrovertible fact, lest I go through life thinking that it's just
>off-key nasal whining set to humdrum country rock.
>
I don't give a rat's ass (unless Sullivan shares) whether you like Neil
Young or not. Your loss... not mine. Sometimes there's beauty in simplicity.
That *is* an incontrovertible fact that you seem destined to miss in life.
>I see you conveniently ignored most of the list. You disappoint me. Now go
>buy all CDs of the artists you snipped out. I dare ya.
>
I only commented on the ones I was familiar with. And Count, while I do
sometimes consider your opinions interesting and in some ways motivating,
don't mistake that for caring enough about what you think to pattern any
part of my life around it. You're an interesting enough person, but you are
not nearly as important as you think you are... and I don't have nearly as
much time as you do for this sort of stuff.
Tim
Jeroen Karssen
I'm a bit suprised that, despite all the good names everyone has come up
with, no one came up with Mothers Finest. Try "black radio won't play
this"
dlwhi...@my-dejanews.com
"Matt" <ta...@funtv.com> wrote:
> After alot of recommendations I have gotten into a band called Spocks
Beard.
> They are on Metal Blade as well, thought they are very very far from
metal.
> They seemed to be like Kansas and a little Yes. They seem to fit your
> description well. They use vocal Harmonies, and their music is compex
and
> longer than thn usual bands. Give them a try I think you'll like
them. you
> can prob, get some info about them on the metal blade site
>
> MCA
I'll second that. I don't own any of the SB discs yet, but I've heard
some long samples that are awesome...
David
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Joseph Thomas <em...@erols.com> wrote:
> Would I like SB because they "sound" like Kansas, or because
> thier songs are melodically similar?
I'm not the Count, but I would say SB is about 50% Kansas, 30% Yes, and
20% Styx. But with some 90's sound quality...
You can listen to samples or buy their discs by going to CD Now.
There's a link to CD Now found in my home page below...
--
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http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/3261
dlwhi...@my-dejanews.com
Atrox <rph...@eden.rutgers.edu> wrote:
> I’d try AWAKE, their
second
> CD. I think its some of the best prog rock out there.
Actually, Awake is DT's 3rd studio CD (previous two were "When Dream
and Day Unite" and "Images and Words"). Those first two should appeal
most to the more proggy Yes-type fans. Awake is the 4th CD if you
count the live disc "Live at the Marquee".
David
Ghost
> 20% Styx. But with some 90's sound quality...
I have to disagree with this breakdown. You're missing the
Genesis, Gentle Giant and other symphonic progressive
influences in their music. BTW, Styx isn't a good idea of
what SB sounds like. Even Kansas isn't very close.
Spock's Beard uses a lot of Mellotron and Hammond Organ.
They have very strong vocal harmonies and adventurous
instrumental breaks. Songs like "The Light" and "The
Doorway" are two of my favorites.
Check out sound files of every track from their new album,
"Day for Night," at http://www.radiantrecords.com. I assume
CDNow would have samples from all of the other albums.
The band is currently on mini-tour of the midwest and east
coast. Check 'em out if you can.
They ain't headlining NEARfest because they aren't good!
:^)
Here's a quick bio:
"Formed in Los Angeles in the Spring of 1992, Spock's Beard
has built a solid and loyal following with their first two
releases, The Light and Beware of Darkness. The group
introduced themselves to a wider audience with their first
nationally distributed release, The Kindness of Strangers on
Radiant Records/Metal Blade in 1997.
Now firmly established as the leaders of what many are
calling "one of the fastest growing underground scenes in
music," Spock’s Beard has reached deep inside themselves to
create Day for Night. This new album finds Spock’s Beard
extending their reach by drawing from many new and
contemporary influences. They deliver over an hour of music
in the form of 13 new tracks that cover virtually the entire
gamut of musical expression. Day for Night marks the release
of Spock’s Beard’s 4th full length album and the beginning
of a new era of expression for the band.
The explosive growth of their remarkably loyal fan base
combined with the extensive press and critical acclaim the
band received for The Kindness of Strangers, their last
effort, have erased any doubts that Spock’s Beard are the
world’s top new progressive band."
Highly recommended!
<gboss>
>
> In this age of "bland rock", I'm musically starved. Thank goodness
> for increasingly rare bands like King's X for their continuous
> *musical* innovation (not gimmicky, "false" innovation); however, if I
> listen to my Tapehead CD one more time, I'm going to "overlisten" it
> and get depressed. I miss the days when there was great new music to
> look forward to every month or so, and now I keep finding myself going
> back to earlier parts of my collection to satisfy my musical
> tastebuds.
>
> don't care if they're mainstream or not. Hell, it may even be a band
> that plays at your local bar every Thursday, that just cut their first
> CD. Frequent voice harmonies a big plus.
>
> Suggestions are much appreciated
--
Greg
http://www.voicenet.com/~gboss/
"each time I write lines for it
someone improvises it
life is so much cleaner on the page"
- Kevin Moore
David Corr
Newsgroup and only 2 mentions of Platypus!
David Corr
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http://listen.to/kingsx
(www.rust.net/~drc/kxindex.htm)
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Henry Potts
>I ask that because I think my taste in music is a bit narrow. YES, Steve
>Howe, Jon Anderson, King Crimson. Well, now that I look at it, it is not
>THAT narrow. But any suggestions for alternate tunes, surely, surely.
>(would be appreciated).
If you'd like to stick close to home, what about trying some of
Bruford's '70s solo work? For recommendations on non-Yes work by any of
the Yesmen, check out the FAQ poll results at
<http://www.bondegezou.demon.co.uk/recomm/index.htm>... hmmm, if I've
remembered that URL correctly... it's linked at the top of
<http://www.bondegezou.demon.co.uk/amy_faq.htm> anyway.
If you'd like to move further afield, what about some Mahavishnu
Orchestra or some early Caravan?
--
Henry
Barry
>
>In this age of "bland rock", I'm musically starved. Thank goodness
>for increasingly rare bands like King's X for their continuous
>*musical* innovation (not gimmicky, "false" innovation); however, if I
>listen to my Tapehead CD one more time, I'm going to "overlisten" it
>and get depressed. I miss the days when there was great new music to
>look forward to every month or so, and now I keep finding myself going
>back to earlier parts of my collection to satisfy my musical
>tastebuds.
>
>Can anyone reccommend any good, fresh progressive rock bands to listen
>to right now? Something a Rush/Yes/King's X junkie would be into? I
>don't care if they're mainstream or not. Hell, it may even be a band
>that plays at your local bar every Thursday, that just cut their first
>CD. Frequent voice harmonies a big plus.
>
>Suggestions are much appreciated
Have you heard any Dream Theatre yet?
Barry
<tmarti...@elithic.com> wrote:
>
>Joseph Thomas wrote in message ...
>>
>>Oh yes- I've "listened out" just about every Kansas album released as
>>well. Perfect example of what I'm looking for, though. One of my
>>favorite albums of all time is actually Kansas- Power (the "new"
>>Kansas). Came out in '85, and to my amazement, hit the bargain bins
>>only two or three years later. Not one song on that album was less
>>than great.
>
>
>I like "Power" (Taking in the View makes me very emotional) as well... also
>"In the Spirit of Things." Those two albums were recorded with Steve Morse
>as the guitarist. He and Steve Walsh have been friends forever. If you like
>Kansas, and/or Steve Morse, try to find Steve Walsh's solo album
>"Schemer-Dreamer." Very tough to find... I have it on a Japanese import...
>but it is truly a great album... Steve Morse, Robby Steinhart, and Phil
>Ehart do most of the instrumentals on that album (besides Steve Walsh's
>organ playing).
>
>Kansas latest, "Freaks of Nature", has some good moments on it as well.
>
>And speaking of Steve Morse... try his solo albums, or just about anything
>by the "Dregs" or "Dixie Dregs." My favorite Dregs album is "What If." Have
>been alble to find it pretty easily. Also, "Dregs of the Earth" and
>"Industry" are great albums.
>
>Finally, Steve Walsh had a great band in the early '80's called "Streets."
>They released two albums: "1st", and "Crimes in Mind." I have yet to find
>either on CD, but they do have a KB Flower Hour live recording that you can
>order at your local record store (it's a very good recording too). This band
>was more hard rock than prog, but has some great playing on it (Mark Slamer
>on guitar). Incidentally, the bass player for Streets, Billy Greer, replaced
>Dave Hope on bass in the "Power" and "In the Spirit of Things" lineup for
>Kansas (he may also be on Freaks... will have to check). My favorite Kansas
>of all time, though, is "Song for America." The title track and "Lonely
>Street" give me goosebumps.
>
>Tim
>
>
>
Guys...Check out Renaissance Records...I bought Starcastle/Fountains
of Light for around $15-17. They also had Kerry Livgren solo & AD
Barry
Dude..........That radiant records URL is expired!
ke...@my-dejanews.com
stepping of the prog-rock box. There's so much music out there . . . so many
different kinds of scenes with so much diversity. Try something different.
Maybe <shock> something not guitar based. Maybe some Bjork. Or maybe some
Jason Falkner. I'm far from being a music authority, but I do know that when
one treats music as if it were a box . . . where you can only listen to it if
it fits a certain mold, *that's* when it starts to get stagnant. I hope this
doesn't seem like an attack. It certainly isn't directed at anyone in
particular . . . I just wanted to share. :)KeilaIn article
<ubtfqz...@erols.com>, Joseph Thomas <em...@erols.com> wrote:> > In this
ke...@my-dejanews.com
Keila
In article <3739C8...@housemollari.org>,
lo...@housemollari.org wrote:
> Although some would argue defining the band as progressive, I would
> highly recommend Radiohead's "Ok Computer" CD. Best album I've heard
> in years, from any band.
>
> Chris Tsirbas
>
Denise
On Sat, 15 May 1999 06:38:21 GMT, moos...@gmx.net (moosedog) wrote:
>On Fri, 14 May 1999 06:17:27 GMT, "Tim Martin"
><tmarti...@elithic.com> wrote:
>
>>don't mistake that for caring enough about what you think to pattern any
>>part of my life around it
>
>Well said. May I use that line the next time my girlfriend wants to
>watch Melrose Place? <g>
>
>mD
Jeff Cecil
vast majority of rock based music, like Bjork for example, can't sing, write
insipid high school level 4/4 garage band songs, have very few musical
skills (if any), then use crappy recording tech to put out a horrible
sounding record that I'm convinced is popular only because it drives kids
parents nuts.
I like prog rock, and I think most prog rockers are in this boat, because
it tends towards musical virtuosity that is lost on most pop/rock music.
Jazz, Classical and the many derivatives of these formats offer musical
expression far beyond the croaking of the closet counter culture pop stars
that pass for alternative music today.
I know this all sounds a little harsh, but it is very frustrating to try and
find music of substance these days. A band like Dream Theatre gives hope
that maybe musical skills might make a comeback, but even they are plagued
by horrible digital recording tech and juvenile lyrical expression. But at
least JL can sing and the entire band can play. Here's hoping the future
moves towards musicianship over tattoos and nipple rings. In the mean time,
keep those suggestions coming. Spocks Beard was an excellent suggestion. I
love this thread.
Jeff
<ke...@my-dejanews.com> wrote in message news:7hjvi6$37l$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
CountV
> Although there are many styles of music available, besides prog rock, the
> vast majority of rock based music, like Bjork for example, can't sing, write
> insipid high school level 4/4 garage band songs, have very few musical
> skills (if any), then use crappy recording tech to put out a horrible
> sounding record that I'm convinced is popular only because it drives kids
> parents nuts.
Wait a sec. Are you saying that _Björk_ isn't musically adept? Heh. Ooooh K.
I doubt you've heard much of her, then.
> I know this all sounds a little harsh, but it is very frustrating to try and
> find music of substance these days. A band like Dream Theatre gives hope
> that maybe musical skills might make a comeback, but even they are plagued
> by horrible digital recording tech and juvenile lyrical expression. But at
> least JL can sing and the entire band can play.
Well, if they could write songs that don't sound like 80's Metal outtakes,
then maybe I'd take them seriously, you know? There are _other_ things to
Prog than just playing well and doing long songs, and breaking out of the
banal tonality and harmony of blues/rock is most definitely part of it.
CountV
--
"My enormous (word deleted) is in between your lips / You clasp my (crossed
out plural) with one hand on my hips / I feel your warm (unsuitable), I'm
about to (slang, taboo) / I love being (questionably phrased), You clearly
love it too" - Momus, "My Kindly Friend, the Censor"
Ny skins
RT
LMKeniston
Sonnier Brothers Band
Tool!
Soundgarden
Snot
Deftones
Helmet
Sepultura
(swell music, not sure if I'd define it as 'progressive' though)
L
Cecrle wrote:
> Joseph Thomas <em...@erols.com> wrote:
> >
> >In this age of "bland rock", I'm musically starved. Thank goodness
> >for increasingly rare bands like King's X for their continuous
> >*musical* innovation (not gimmicky, "false" innovation); however, if I
> >listen to my Tapehead CD one more time, I'm going to "overlisten" it
> >and get depressed. I miss the days when there was great new music to
> >look forward to every month or so, and now I keep finding myself going
> >back to earlier parts of my collection to satisfy my musical
> >tastebuds.
> >
> >Can anyone reccommend any good, fresh progressive rock bands to listen
> >to right now? Something a Rush/Yes/King's X junkie would be into? I
> >don't care if they're mainstream or not. Hell, it may even be a band
> >that plays at your local bar every Thursday, that just cut their first
> >CD. Frequent voice harmonies a big plus.
>
> Mercury Rev, perhaps?
>
> -FC
LMKeniston
like that--it used to kick ass, prolly still does
L
CountV wrote:
> "Tetany" <Cant...@tetanymail.com> wrote:
>
> > CountV wrote in message <7hcp8b$k8p$1...@autumn.news.rcn.net>...
> >
> >>Then you'd most likely love Spock's Beard. I loathe them even more than
> >>Kansas.
> >
> >
> > Hi CountV,
> >
> > If, by loathe, you mean that you really don't like Spock's Beard (I've never
> > heard them),
>
> Yeah, I really mean "loathe".
>
> > then can you suggest some other music that you do like and that
> > would be nice to listen to after the members of YES are sent to their
> > respective convalescent centers?
>
> Well, if you're asking about contemporary prog, I would recommend
> Discipline, IQ, Echolyn, Änglagård and The Flower Kings. (the last three
> aren't exactly super faves, but they're not bad, and a lot of proggies like
> them a _lot_).
> >
> > I ask that because I think my taste in music is a bit narrow. YES, Steve
> > Howe, Jon Anderson, King Crimson. Well, now that I look at it, it is not
> > THAT narrow. But any suggestions for alternate tunes, surely, surely.
> > (would be appreciated).
>
> I don't know how familiar you are with 70's stuff, but the 'classics' should
> be checked out; Van Der Graaf Generator, Gentle Giant, Jethro Tull, Genesis
> and from what little I have heard National Health sound fantastic. Also, _I_
> don't like 'em much, but ELP seems to hold great appeal for many Yes fans.
>
> CountV
>
> --
> "I know it's an old cliché, but you can cut the atmosphere with a cricket
> stump" - Murray Walker
LMKeniston
Jeff Fletcher wrote:
> I'm really in the same boat as you are. Some of the bands I pass time with
> are Tool, Dream Theater, Marillion, Joe Satriani, Stu Hamm (put out a few
> obscure albums in the '80s) and occasionally, Tangerine Dream (for an
> instrumental flair).
JayZ755
>vast majority of rock based music, like Bjork for example, can't sing, write
>insipid high school level 4/4 garage band songs, have very few musical
>skills (if any), then use crappy recording tech to put out a horrible
>sounding record that I'm convinced is popular only because it drives kids
>parents nuts.
>
Suit yourself. Musicianship without emotion is meaningless. Some of us also
prefer a more openminded attitude to elitism.
Jay
By the time I stopped caring, it was too late.
Charles Cochran
"Honor's not a crime."
*)Dread Zone
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My CD Collection (unfinished)
http://www.geocites.com/SoHo/Studios/3230/cds.html
Bill Moseley
there's nothing like it! And back then, Ace was as hot as it got!
Bill in TX
Jeff Cecil
> Wait a sec. Are you saying that _Björk_ isn't musically adept? Heh. Ooooh
K.
> I doubt you've heard much of her, then.
Unfortunately I have been subjected to her caterwalling more than I care to
remember. Just so you don't get to upset, I'm not condeming Bjork or people
who like those styles of music, but this guy asked for opinions about a
specific type of music of which she doesn't apply even a little. If you
find musical merit in her work fine. But you might as well try to convince
me that Skinhead O'connor is an Opera Diva as to try and convince me Bjork
has musical talent.
> Well, if they could write songs that don't sound like 80's Metal outtakes,
> then maybe I'd take them seriously, you know? There are _other_ things to
> Prog than just playing well and doing long songs, and breaking out of the
> banal tonality and harmony of blues/rock is most definitely part of it.
>
On this point, I agree %1000. That is why it is so difficult to find newer
bands that have prog tendencies. They are so busy copying other styles that
they forget to do there own thing. I love 70s and 80s Jeff Beck, but I
don't like his 90s Steve Vai wanabee albums. I don't like Steve Vai albums
either but that's a hole other story. While the early Beck albums had a
live improvisational feel that was open and inviting. The later guitar
albums by him and everyone else are closed technically perfect albums with
absolutely no soul or originality. Vai and others like him are guitar
monsters with skill out the wazoo, but limit themselves to format solo rock.
The songs lack ambience.
The one thing I find most interesting is that those old analog recordings
sound far more spacious, warm and dynamic than the supposedly superior
digital recordings that are being done today. I find most of the studio
work being done now to be extremely flat and lifeless.
Jeff
Ny skins
kiss alive 1 rules.
David Corr
news:19990517073320...@ng-fr1.aol.com...
> ha ha!!!!! one of my personal favorite albums of all time!!!!!
>
> kiss alive 1 rules.
Live from Cobo Hall, Detroit....."OOOOOOOOooooh, Black Diamond!"........8^)
David
CountV
> CountV,
>
>> Wait a sec. Are you saying that _Björk_ isn't musically adept? Heh. Ooooh
> K.
>> I doubt you've heard much of her, then.
>
> Unfortunately I have been subjected to her caterwalling more than I care to
> remember. Just so you don't get to upset, I'm not condeming Bjork or people
> who like those styles of music, but this guy asked for opinions about a
> specific type of music of which she doesn't apply even a little. If you
> find musical merit in her work fine. But you might as well try to convince
> me that Skinhead O'connor is an Opera Diva as to try and convince me Bjork
> has musical talent.
Oooh, scathing blow. I hate Sinead with a passion (but calling her Skinhead
is juts a _bit_ predictable, no?), and have great respect for Björk. She has
a great sense of both tonality and phrasing, and knows to surround herself
with excellent sonic collaborators - that's good enough for me (although
that "It's oh so quiet"
>
>> Well, if they could write songs that don't sound like 80's Metal outtakes,
>> then maybe I'd take them seriously, you know? There are _other_ things to
>> Prog than just playing well and doing long songs, and breaking out of the
>> banal tonality and harmony of blues/rock is most definitely part of it.
>
> On this point, I agree %1000. That is why it is so difficult to find newer
> bands that have prog tendencies. They are so busy copying other styles that
> they forget to do there own thing. I love 70s and 80s Jeff Beck, but I
> don't like his 90s Steve Vai wanabee albums. I don't like Steve Vai albums
> either but that's a hole other story. While the early Beck albums had a
> live improvisational feel that was open and inviting. The later guitar
> albums by him and everyone else are closed technically perfect albums with
> absolutely no soul or originality. Vai and others like him are guitar
> monsters with skill out the wazoo, but limit themselves to format solo rock.
> The songs lack ambience.
*nodnodnod* Yup. Vai was quite a phenomenon when he did his first post-Zappa
work (Alcatrazz, David Lee Roth, PIL), but he quickly became very formulaic.
>
> The one thing I find most interesting is that those old analog recordings
> sound far more spacious, warm and dynamic than the supposedly superior
> digital recordings that are being done today. I find most of the studio
> work being done now to be extremely flat and lifeless.
I think this has more to do with production aesthetics than actual
_possibility_. That is, that sterile sound is chosen, but a more 'analog'
sound _could_ be replicated, if one wanted.
CountV
--
"Tambay's hopes, which were nil before, are absolutely zero now." - Murray
Walker
Jeff Cecil
him, but never think of him in prog rock terms for some reason. But if he
isn't the essence of prog rock I don't know who is. Also Camel (not
Framptons Camel) was pretty good early on. Breathless, Flight of the Snow
Goose, Moon Madness, Rain Dances and Nude are all good albums. They have a
tendency to drift into pop songs, but around those are some really hot
tunes.
> Oooh, scathing blow. I hate Sinead with a passion (but calling her
Skinhead
> is juts a _bit_ predictable, no?), and have great respect for Björk. She
has
> a great sense of both tonality and phrasing, and knows to surround herself
> with excellent sonic collaborators - that's good enough for me (although
> that "It's oh so quiet"
Ok, I'll quit drubbing Bjork and yes calling Sinead, skinhead is way to
easy.
> I think this has more to do with production aesthetics than actual
> _possibility_. That is, that sterile sound is chosen, but a more 'analog'
> sound _could_ be replicated, if one wanted.
My opinion on this is that studios, both home and professional, have become
addicted to direct digital recording. You don't have to take environmental
factors into account and then you can mix to your hearts content when you
are done. It is easier, faster and most of all CHEAPER. The problem is
that many songs are better when there is a true acoustic sound that is lost
in direct digital recording. Some of the roominess can be added back in via
reverb and other effects, but it doesn't yield the same results. Also, many
electronic instruments, like organs, electric pianos, etc, sound really
clunky when directly recorded. Those types of instruments have to be
recorded "In the room" because half of their sound quality is created by
room dynamics. I don't even want to discuss what true acoustic instruments
sound like when using direct digital techniques.
Jeff
Dunno
>Can anyone reccommend any good, fresh progressive rock bands to listen
>to right now? Something a Rush/Yes/King's X junkie would be into?
There's only one band in the progressive rock vain for me right now: the
swedish band The Flower Kings! Check out their latest two albums "Stardust
we are" and "Flower Power". Both double cd's with over 140 minutes of the
best progressive rock of the decade on them.
An absolute must for every prog rock fan!
Listen to some nice mp3's on their homepage and find out where to get their
cd's!
http://www.users.wineasy.se/flowerkings/
Have fun
Dunno
Dan Singleton
Jeff Cecil wrote in message <#2DPag#n#GA.256@cpmsnbbsa03>...
>CountV,
>
>
>> Wait a sec. Are you saying that _Björk_ isn't musically adept? Heh. Ooooh
>K.
>> I doubt you've heard much of her, then.
>
>Unfortunately I have been subjected to her caterwalling more than I care to
>remember. Just so you don't get to upset, I'm not condeming Bjork or
people
>who like those styles of music, but this guy asked for opinions about a
>specific type of music of which she doesn't apply even a little. If you
>find musical merit in her work fine. But you might as well try to convince
>me that Skinhead O'connor is an Opera Diva as to try and convince me Bjork
>has musical talent.
>
>> Well, if they could write songs that don't sound like 80's Metal
outtakes,
>> then maybe I'd take them seriously, you know? There are _other_ things to
>> Prog than just playing well and doing long songs, and breaking out of the
>> banal tonality and harmony of blues/rock is most definitely part of it.
>>
>
>On this point, I agree %1000. That is why it is so difficult to find newer
>bands that have prog tendencies. They are so busy copying other styles
that
>they forget to do there own thing. I love 70s and 80s Jeff Beck, but I
>don't like his 90s Steve Vai wanabee albums. I don't like Steve Vai albums
>either but that's a hole other story. While the early Beck albums had a
>live improvisational feel that was open and inviting. The later guitar
>albums by him and everyone else are closed technically perfect albums with
>absolutely no soul or originality. Vai and others like him are guitar
>monsters with skill out the wazoo, but limit themselves to format solo
rock.
>The songs lack ambience.
>
>The one thing I find most interesting is that those old analog recordings
>sound far more spacious, warm and dynamic than the supposedly superior
>digital recordings that are being done today. I find most of the studio
>work being done now to be extremely flat and lifeless.
>
>Jeff
>
>
Edward Wilson
Ed
Joseph Thomas <em...@erols.com> wrote in message
news:ubtfqz...@erols.com...
>
> In this age of "bland rock", I'm musically starved. Thank goodness
> for increasingly rare bands like King's X for their continuous
> *musical* innovation (not gimmicky, "false" innovation); however, if I
> listen to my Tapehead CD one more time, I'm going to "overlisten" it
> and get depressed. I miss the days when there was great new music to
> look forward to every month or so, and now I keep finding myself going
> back to earlier parts of my collection to satisfy my musical
> tastebuds.
>
> Can anyone reccommend any good, fresh progressive rock bands to listen
> to right now? Something a Rush/Yes/King's X junkie would be into? I
> don't care if they're mainstream or not. Hell, it may even be a band
> that plays at your local bar every Thursday, that just cut their first
> CD. Frequent voice harmonies a big plus.
>
> Suggestions are much appreciated
Edward Wilson
Dag, Incubus, Far, Failure are all right-on. I will check out those on the
rest of your list.
Try Super 8...
Ed
Ctwospoons <ctwos...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:19990512160918...@ng-cd1.aol.com...
> >> In this age of "bland rock", I'm musically starved. ...
> >> Can anyone reccommend any good, fresh progressive rock bands to listen
> >> to right now?
>
> Although some of these are not new:
>
> Zebrahead
> Incubus
> Far
> Failure
> Kid Rock (if you can handle the foul language)
> Dag (used to be one of Doug's fave bands - still may be -- I think)
> Train of Thought (local Houston band)
> Project 232 (local Dallas band)
>
>
>
> ------------
> I'm with the night, dieing stars a dreadful sight, light my distress, fill
my
> soul with emptiness, cannot cry, can't think, can't even wish to try, hide
my
> true desire, bed myself on barbed wire, and while you arise, all I can do
is
> agonize
dlwhi...@my-dejanews.com
Ghost <qgh...@fast.net> wrote:
> > I'm not the Count, but I would say SB is about 50% Kansas, 30% Yes,
and
> > 20% Styx. But with some 90's sound quality...
>
> I have to disagree with this breakdown. You're missing the
> Genesis, Gentle Giant and other symphonic progressive
> influences in their music. BTW, Styx isn't a good idea of
> what SB sounds like. Even Kansas isn't very close.
>
> Spock's Beard uses a lot of Mellotron and Hammond Organ.
> They have very strong vocal harmonies and adventurous
> instrumental breaks. Songs like "The Light" and "The
> Doorway" are two of my favorites.
>
> Check out sound files of every track from their new album,
> "Day for Night," at http://www.radiantrecords.com. I assume
> CDNow would have samples from all of the other albums.
>
> The band is currently on mini-tour of the midwest and east
> coast. Check 'em out if you can.
>
> They ain't headlining NEARfest because they aren't good!
I'll admit that I haven't heard any Gentle Giant, but the strong Kansas
influence is undeniable, particularly in June and The Doorway.
Also, I stand by the Styx comparison, although SB are better musicians.
For example, listen to the end of The Light. Sounds like some Dennis
DeYoung concept song there.
David
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MetalMommy
>least JL can sing
You obviously haven't seen DT live.
::::ducking the flames and ROFLMAO::::
I really really REALLY am a DT fan, but the live vocals just SUCK soooooooo
bad. I've seen them twice live, and both times I walked away disappointed with
the vocals. Not to mention that I have a couple of live CD's that I may as
well use for coasters, 'cause they aren't getting any use.
