Is Danny Elfman his own orchestrator?
BATY
I've read that he did not orchestrate his works.
Scott Smith
You've read correctly. His work is always orchestrated by Steve Bartek
(who, btw, was also a member of Oingo Boingo)
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Scott :-)
BATY wrote in message <6l6utq$ldt$1...@lyon110.dtr.fr>...
:I've read that he did not orchestrate his works.
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terry roberts
"Scott Smith" <sc...@compassdata.com> writes:
Not true. He does the basic orchestration, and Steve fills it out by
figuring out exactly how many violins, etc. each part should be.
ELFMANIAC
Scott Smith wrote:
> You've read correctly. His work is always orchestrated by Steve Bartek
> (who, btw, was also a member of Oingo Boingo)
Not to forget the orchestrations done by:
Mark McKenzie (especially), Steven Scott-Smalley, Edgardo Simone
(especially)
and Conrad Pope.
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Fox
terry roberts wrote:
> Not true. He does the basic orchestration, and Steve fills it out by
> figuring out exactly how many violins, etc. each part should be.
Um, ok. The fact is that the term "orchestrator" as used in Hollywood
is very ambiguous. Almost ALL film composers (including John Williams,
and greats such as Korngold (save his first score) and Steiner) use
orchestrators simply because writing the sheer volume of music required
for a movie in the time provided is not a one man job. Some
orchestrators
do more than others, but Danny does not orchestrate his own music.
Someone IS credited with that on his CDs. (Steve Bartek, ofcourse)
Not orchestrating is not a crime.
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Fox
Give me ambiguity or give me something else
Boy Wonder
Fox <u2...@saclink1.csus.edu> wrote in article
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> Not orchestrating is not a crime.
But . . .
if you listen to any of Danny's demo work that he mock up on synths (e.g.
This Is Halloween on MFADTII) you'll see that Steve must just sort out
practicalities - i.e. how many violins, the right key and instrument, etc.)
cos the demo sounds very similar to the final version.
I'm not knocking Steve (Bartek) but just trying to give Danny his due -
this thread is starting to sound like all those people who say Steve does
it all. Surely this group should stand up for Danny's blinding talent!
And orchestration isn't the main thing of film writing - we remember
melodies. But orchestration when done well adds so much. But it's not
all Steve's work! Sorry - none of this is meant to be said argumentatively
- it's just that it's late!
And BTW check out this URL if you want *all* the demos in realaudio format:
http://www.halloweentown.com/graveyard/sounds.html
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terry roberts
Fox <u2...@saclink1.csus.edu> writes:
>terry roberts wrote:
>> Not true. He does the basic orchestration, and Steve fills it out by
>> figuring out exactly how many violins, etc. each part should be.
>Um, ok. The fact is that the term "orchestrator" as used in Hollywood
>is very ambiguous. Almost ALL film composers (including John Williams,
>and greats such as Korngold (save his first score) and Steiner) use
>orchestrators simply because writing the sheer volume of music required
>for a movie in the time provided is not a one man job. Some
>orchestrators
>do more than others, but Danny does not orchestrate his own music.
>Someone IS credited with that on his CDs. (Steve Bartek, ofcourse)
>Not orchestrating is not a crime.
>--
>Fox
>Give me ambiguity or give me something else
Sorry, I have to disagree with you on this one. Check out
http://www.boingo.com/articles/FSMarticle2.html and see his
own work in his own handwriting. You can check the other articles out as
well (part one and Steve's interview). In addition he did a radio
interview that I would point to if it existed on the web.
Matthewstr
>But . . .
>if you listen to any of Danny's demo work that he mock up on synths (e.g.
>This Is Halloween on MFADTII) you'll see that Steve must just sort out
>practicalities - i.e. how many violins, the right key and instrument, etc.)
>cos the demo sounds very similar to the final version.
Danny does not do synth mock ups for every cue in a score, only the ones that
he wants to play for the director. What Bartek gets from Elfman is a kind of
musical shorthand. And figuring out those practicalities, i.e. how many of
each instrument and what they are all playing (they don't all play the same
note) is the definition of orchestration.
M.S.