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Ms. Grant had to approve of every line in that Primetime program:

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KJ5882

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Oct 4, 2002, 6:02:43 PM10/4/02
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For news organizations, and news segments, approval by the characters has to be
given before the program can air the piece. The opening remark by the reporter
had to have been approved before the program could be placed on the television.
The characters of the program go through the comments, or the interview,
behind the scenes to assure that there will be no issues after the fact. To
finish my point; Ms. Grant, and anyone else involved, approved of the program
before the segment aired on a national market.

Darrm

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Oct 4, 2002, 8:08:47 PM10/4/02
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I doubt this very seriously. I remember when a TV show did a biography on Anne
Rice. They wouldn't even let Anne see the finished product before it aired.
She had to watch just like everyone else. If you think every celebrity gets
editorial control on a piece about them you are wrong.

DM


Maybelline

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Oct 5, 2002, 1:50:53 AM10/5/02
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da...@aol.com (Darrm) wrote in message news:<20021004200847...@mb-fd.aol.com>...

She said something about not knowing what the Lifetime show would be
like either till she saw it on TV like everyone else.

SamNHisDog

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Oct 5, 2002, 3:04:07 AM10/5/02
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<< For news organizations, and news segments, approval by the characters has to
be
given before the program can air the piece. >>


This is only about 99% untrue.

Who Me

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Oct 5, 2002, 3:37:48 AM10/5/02
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>For news organizations, and news segments, approval by the characters has to
>be
>given before the program can air the piece.


That's bullshit! Where did you heare that?? AS A MATTER OF FACT, quite the
opposite is usually true. You WILL NOT get on the air if you want the right of
approval.


Bill

"Television is not the truth. Television is a goddamn amusement park"
-- Howard Beale
"A lot of people in this business think I'm a smart-ass."
--David Letterman, 2/28/01
"I don't have any regrets, they can talk about me plenty when I'm gone.

Who Me

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Oct 5, 2002, 3:38:52 AM10/5/02
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More like 110%...

Jessica

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Oct 5, 2002, 4:16:17 AM10/5/02
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Which just means the only things we KNOW Amy intended were her words.
And she made the situation very clear, finally.

Darrm

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Oct 5, 2002, 4:36:47 AM10/5/02
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> If you think every celebrity gets
>> editorial control on a piece about them you are wrong.
>>
>> DM

>Which just means the only things we KNOW Amy intended were her words.
>And she made the situation very clear, finally.

Maybe, maybe not. What Prime Time Live chose to edit out, or what quotes they
left in but perhaps aired out of context could certainly slant the story. It
happens all the time, in every media.

DM


KJ5882

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Oct 5, 2002, 10:36:47 AM10/5/02
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For news segments, and I am not referring to Lifetime Television programs, a
copy of the program is sent out to the individuals involved in whichever story
the news reporters are covering. Whether an interview is taking place, or
there is a strict news segment, there is a transcript within the news
organization before one is presented to the public. The same demeanor is used
for news stations, such as CNN or MSNBC. Again, I do not know of Lifetime's
contract with the subjects of some of their stories, but the news media has
come under scrutiny in recent years for slanting their stories and have since
taken steps to improve that aspect of reporting.

Darrm

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Oct 5, 2002, 12:31:51 PM10/5/02
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Actually, news programs often refuse to even give the interview subject a list
of questions before the interview, and refuse to "not ask sensitive questions".
So I find it highly unlikely that they would then give the celebrity "final
approval" on the piece. Just doesn't make sense at all.

DM

Who Me

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Oct 5, 2002, 1:45:04 PM10/5/02
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>For news segments, and I am not referring to Lifetime Television programs, a
>copy of the program is sent out to the individuals involved in whichever
>story
>the news reporters are covering.


Again, that's NOT true, AND, if there is an exception, there is still no right
of approval. No matter how many times you say this, it STILL won't be true.

Maybelline

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Oct 5, 2002, 6:56:56 PM10/5/02
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Oh, so I guess the former preist in the story just after Amy and Vince
gave HIS approval? Or all the people 60 min and other "gottcha" - so
called news reports - get approval from their targets? I really have a
hard time with this. Why don't you tell us your source for this info?
Maybelline

Andrew

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Oct 5, 2002, 8:29:28 PM10/5/02
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You got him there! There is no way that Priest would have given permission
or any people in those shows where they spy on people. Like when they send
a hidden camera in a restaurant to show it is not up to Standards that still
airs and you cant tell me those people agreed!!


Maybelline wrote in message
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Darrm

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Oct 5, 2002, 8:32:30 PM10/5/02
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Every once in a while you hear about a major celebrity (like Madonna or Liz
Taylor) getting approval over the cover photo on a magazine, but not the
content of the article itself.

DM


KJ5882

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Oct 5, 2002, 11:19:56 PM10/5/02
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In cases such as those, the person involved has to still be notified about what
will happen. Otherwise, you would have lawsuits with every new segment. For
fear of just that, being sued, the news organizations inform the participants.

Darrm

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Oct 5, 2002, 11:33:18 PM10/5/02
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I guarantee you you're wrong. TV News Departments DON'T send advance copies to
celebrities. I'm sure there are exceptions...

And, because, of past court rulings, which basically said that celebrities
lives are "public property", it is very hard for a celebrity to sue and win.
The National Enquirer gets away with murder every week. Yeah, every once and a
while a celebrity sues and wins, but we're talking blue moon in those cases...

DM

Valerie

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Oct 6, 2002, 12:01:45 AM10/6/02
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Hopefully we'll find out if Vince & Amy (or anyone else associated with them)
had any input as to what went into the content of the show...I've asked Vince's
fan club President/webmaster if they had any approval or not.

Valerie

Who Me

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Oct 6, 2002, 2:02:47 AM10/6/02
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That's not even logical. They said what they said. How could they sue for what
THEY said??? IT DOES NOT HAPPEN!

Who Me

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Oct 6, 2002, 2:07:20 AM10/6/02
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>I guarantee you you're wrong. TV News Departments DON'T send advance copies
>to
>celebrities. I'm sure there are exceptions...

Ya know, this reminded me of something kind of funny. Unfortunately, I don't
remember the guest, or who it was the guest was speaking of, but it happened on
the Tom Snyder show. The guest was bleeped, and the next night, Snyder went on
the air and explained why the guest was bleeped. Seems he had referred to
someone as a "fallen down drunk." Snyder had countered with a question as to
why he wanted to refer to this person now, since he had been deceased for some
time, as a "fallen down drunk," and after the taping the guest thought better
of it, and asked that it be removed. So, ya see, you can't really get away with
anything...

Vincegfan2

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Oct 6, 2002, 10:05:02 AM10/6/02
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>I've asked Vince's
>fan club President/webmaster if they had any approval or not.

I would think the person to ask would be Alison.( Vince's Publicist)

Rhonda

Thewebchyk

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Oct 6, 2002, 10:25:21 AM10/6/02
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Totally and completely FALSE. I've worked in television for years, and this is
absolutely untrue. People who are being interviewed have no say in how things
are edited or what airs. You are speaking in generalities about something you
quite obviously know NOTHING about.

Peace,

Rose

Thewebchyk

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Oct 6, 2002, 10:26:05 AM10/6/02
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>Date: 10/5/2002 11:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20021005231956...@mb-cl.aol.com>

Thewebchyk

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Oct 6, 2002, 10:27:44 AM10/6/02
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I guess rmaag is still attracting all kinds of trolls.

Again, what you've stated is completely untrue.

Peace,

Rose

Maybelline

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Oct 6, 2002, 12:59:12 PM10/6/02
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> In cases such as those, the person involved has to still be notified about what
> will happen. Otherwise, you would have lawsuits with every new segment. For
> fear of just that, being sued, the news organizations inform the participants.

But notification is a far cry from approval.
Maybelline

Valerie

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Oct 6, 2002, 7:51:24 PM10/6/02
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Rhonda,

Lori will probably ask Alison if she doesn't know.

Valerie

Steve Hill

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Oct 6, 2002, 8:57:43 PM10/6/02
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In article <20021005231956...@mb-cl.aol.com>, KJ5882
<kj5...@aol.com> wrote:

Wait 'til I tell the folks at the five TV stations, three newspapers
and five radio stations I've worked for in the Chattanooga and Atlanta
areas over the past thirty years... Nobody I've ever worked for has
ever shown a transcript or copy of an interview before airing or
printing... In fact, All of them have fought with subjects who wanted
to see such without success...

Why would notifying the subject lessen the chance of a lawsuit if the
package is going to be aired either way? The best defense against
legal action is responsible reporting. Revealing the content in
advance would be stupid and irresponsible.

Steve

Steve Hill
Technology Manager
The Times-Herald and News Channel 9
Newnan, Georgia, USA

My Amy Grant photography:
http://stevehill.us

Okie

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Oct 7, 2002, 4:15:18 PM10/7/02
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IT'S ROSE!!! We thought you had abandoned us for another NG!

Thanks for gracing us with your presence :-). Stop by anytime!

Okie
(but not a Vince fan)

Thewebchyk

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Oct 7, 2002, 7:11:17 PM10/7/02
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okie...@yahoo.com (Okie) wrote:

>IT'S ROSE!!! We thought you had abandoned us for another NG!

Ha! I'm sure a few folks wish that were true. ;^) I mostly stick with rmc and
the few mailing lists I'm on.

>Thanks for gracing us with your presence :-). Stop by anytime!

Teehee. Aw. Yer sweet. Thanks. I've been lurking again because of the tour (Amy
was in the Burgh recently) and the Prime Time special -- felt compelled to read
the reactions.

>Okie
>(but not a Vince fan)

Shame, shame. ;^)

Thanks for the post, Okie -- it's nice to be missed. And it's good to "see" you
again.

Peace,

Rose

Okie

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Oct 8, 2002, 9:09:48 PM10/8/02
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OK Rose, help me out here!!

What was the funky name of that "society" a couple of you gals had
(actually I think it was a front for an Ed Rock fan club). Wasn't it
something like, "Little Sisters of the Bombastic Order of Run DMC" ?

Gosh, those were fun days on Usenet!

See ya,
Okie

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