Amy Mentioned in Star Magazine
paul...@my-deja.com
with a picture of Micheal Jackson on the cover. I opened it up to see
what was being said, and to my surprise there was a picture of Amy and
Vince on one side, and Janis (Gill's ex) on the other! It is the June
22 issue. Basically it is about the "secret" Vince Gill divorce
files. I am going to write down the part that mentions Amy:
At one point, Gills relationship with singer Amy Grant became an issue
in the proceedings. Gill's lawyer, Lou Conner, said he believed the
other side was using Vince's friendship with Amy Grant as a "hammer" to
make accusations that the two were having an affair during Gill's
marriage. Janis planned to produce letters allegedly written between
Amy and Vince that detailed their feelings toward each other. Conner
said Vince and Amy were simply soul mates-and that both were prepared
to testify under oath that they had never had sex. Grant - who
recently seperated from husband, Nashville entertainer Gary Chapman -
hired her own lawyer for the case, and never gave a deposition.
Well, thats all it says about Amy. Just one thing, if his ex really
had love letters betweent the two, she would DEFINETLY have used it
against them. This was a bitter divorce battle adn Janis walked away
with oneof the biggest settlements ever in Nashville. Of Vince's
22million dollars she got 6million cash, 150 acres of farmland valued
at 1.5 million, a 700,000 house, a 500,000 barn and a 500,000 dress
shop, and a 35,000 Lexus. Plus 38% off of all of Vince's royalties,
which should reach 15 million! Marla Maples only got 2 million from
Donald Trump!!!! Again, I think this just goes on to disprove that Amy
is with Vince, his wife would have used anything she could to get more
money out of him, obviously there are no letters, nor proof of an
affair.
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Diann4466
>is with Vince, his wife would have used anything she could to get more
>money out of him, obviously there are no letters, nor proof of an
>affair.
>
>to testify under oath that they had never >had sex.
That "soulmate" quote didn't bother you?! Soul-mate, as in: "the perfect one
for me", "the one I was destined for", "the only one I belong with", etc.,
etc. Soulmate as in emotional adultery? Don't want to say much, because this
is being quoted out of "Star", and I don't judge Amy ~ I don't care if she was
with Vince. She's only become more interesting to me with this type of
potential, it's like she's finally a real person, an adult human being, not
just a tape recording of bible verses and reasons to be good with a
perma-smile. Sorry folks, but I can relate to her more if these rumors are
true, rather than if they aren't. Also, the hugeness of the ex-wife's
settlement does not imply Vince's innocence, and just because the letters
weren't entered into the proceedings as evidence, doesn't mean they don't
exist. Negotiations may have gone on behind the scenes. But, again, this is
Star magazine we're talking about, so it can't be taken too seriously.
Diann
MyPest
a good friendship, I'm curious as to how the STAR got ahold of a sealed
divorced record. I also agree that Janis would have used letters if she had
them to get whatever she could have out of Vince. By the way, the $500,000
dress shop did not belong to Vince. Janis and her sister own it and always
have. Wonder why her boyfriend was never mentioned in the article.
nycz...@my-deja.com
> said Vince and Amy were simply soul mates-and that both were prepared
> to testify under oath that they had never had sex. Grant - who
> recently seperated from husband, Nashville entertainer Gary Chapman -
> hired her own lawyer for the case, and never gave a deposition.
Too bad Amy didn't take such a big public stand about NOT doing
Vince when Gary had to hear it from just about everybody. I'm sure it
really did a number on his head and his all-important ego.
> Well, thats all it says about Amy. Just one thing, if his ex really
> had love letters betweent the two, she would DEFINETLY have used it
> against them. This was a bitter divorce battle adn Janis walked away
> with oneof the biggest settlements ever in Nashville. Of Vince's
> 22million dollars she got 6million cash, 150 acres of farmland valued
> at 1.5 million, a 700,000 house, a 500,000 barn and a 500,000 dress
> shop, and a 35,000 Lexus. Plus 38% off of all of Vince's royalties,
> which should reach 15 million! Marla Maples only got 2 million from
> Donald Trump!!!! Again, I think this just goes on to disprove that
> is with Vince, his wife would have used anything she could to get
> money out of him, obviously there are no letters, nor proof of an
> affair.
How can you compare Vince's wife of 17 YEARS to that
money-grubbing, gold-digging, bimbo whore, Marla Maples? Vince's wife
was around before Vince hit it big. She deserves more of Vince's
assets. Marla probably poked holes in Donald's condoms so she could
get pregnant and take more of his money through child support. Even 2
mil. under a pre-nuptial agreement is more than Marla deserved. The
Donald would have been better off paying for it by the hour (since that
was the only reason why he married Marla in the first place).
Devon Whitehead
Diann4466 wrote:
> That "soulmate" quote didn't bother you?! Soul-mate, as in: "the perfect one
> for me", "the one I was destined for", "the only one I belong with", etc.,
> etc. Soulmate as in emotional adultery? <snip>
> Diann
Doesn't bother me at all. I consider my very closest friends "soulmates"--they
understand me perfectly and can sense when there is something inside of me that I
can't name...and they are there with me. Soulmate doesn't always have to mean "the
one I am meant to be with" as in love, but "the one friend I am meant to be with"
--
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paul...@my-deja.com
Sorry if I offended you with my comparisson. I did not mean to compare
Janis and Marla. What I was comparing were the sums of money. Vince
only has 22 million (I read that Amy has 75 Million to her name, can
anyone confirm, deny?)and had to give Janis 6mil in cash, plus all the
other things, reaches about 8mil, not to mention the 38% on the
copyrights she will receive. Donald Trump has ALOT more than 22mil. I
believe his fortune is estimated at 450mil. And yet he paid 2mil.
Regardless of wether that was more than Maples deserved or not, this is
not even 1% of his fortune, while 8mil is about 35% of Vinces. Thats
alot. I am not saying it more than she deserves (women should get
atleast 50%, LOL), but it is a huge difference!
Hope I haven't offended you (you'r one of my favorite people here!!!
Well, except for when you lump all Christians together, and piss me off
just a little bit...)
Paula
n article <7juboh$fmc$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
Glatzfamly
>That "soulmate" quote didn't bother you?! Soul-mate, as in: "the perfect one
>for me", "the one I was destined for", "the only one I belong with", etc.,
>etc. Soulmate as in emotional adultery? Don't want to say much, because
>this
>is being quoted out of "Star", and I don't judge Amy ~ I don't care if she
>was
>with Vince. She's only become more interesting to me with this type of
>potential, it's like she's finally a real person, an adult human being, not
>just a tape recording of bible verses and reasons to be good with a
>perma-smile. Sorry folks, but I can relate to her more if these rumors are
>true, rather than if they aren't. Also, the hugeness of the ex-wife's
>settlement does not imply Vince's innocence, and just because the letters
>weren't entered into the proceedings as evidence, doesn't mean they don't
>exist. Negotiations may have gone on behind the scenes. But, again, this is
>Star magazine we're talking about, so it can't be taken too seriously.
>Diann
I think Amy's always been a real person, an adult human being. Those that
thought that she was what you described as " a tape recording of bible verses
and reasons to be good with a perma-smile" are very small minded people that
can't see beyond the surface.
Amy has always been very open about who she is, with all the flaws that all of
us have. But there are still those that won't let Christians, especially those
who are in the place of someone like Amy, have those flaws. Somehow or the
other they are supposed to be different, why I don't know. We are all in the
same condition...
********************************
Michael Glatz
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mgl...@briefcase.com
Accept that some days you're the pigeon,
some days you're the statue.
Diann4466
>thought that she was what you described as " a tape recording of bible verses
>and reasons to be good with a perma-smile" are very small minded people that
>can't see beyond the surface.
Do you mean "surface", or "image", because image is the result of carefully
crafted interview responses, public appearances, and partially created persona.
Since everything I know about Amy has come through a medium of some sort, I
can truthfully say I don't know her, but I do know her image. I can't look
beyond it because it's all I & most of America knows of her. I have met her a
few times, but meeting a stranger briefly does not imply knowing them either.
I can't help but think she got stuck in a role as a teenager, and could never
quite get out of it, until the BTE period. In order to experience such a change
lyrically, I think she must have be experiencing quite a change personally.
She says it herself in interviews around BTE that she had to learn to be real,
that a lot of "her" wasn't really "her". Can't remember the exact quote, but
that is the idea of it. I kind of relate, because as a teenage convert, I got
stuck in a role, which took me years to overcome. Teenage years are a very
impressionable time, and even well-meaning, religious people can influence you
negatively for years to come. Didn't quite get our post, because you're kind
of saying I'm small minded for thinking she mostly presented her goody-goody
side, and then kind of saying (I think) that I wouldn't let her or any other
Christian have faults, when I just posted that I like her better with
faults...The post is generalized & rambles, with the usual put downs, of
course. Do you ever just connect with someone without religion as a basis?
Diann
Maggie
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<snip it all, except...>
> Do you ever just connect with someone without religion as a basis?
You bring up a good point here. How many times have you heard from the
mouth of a Christian friend, when you talk about someone you've met or
would like them to meet "Is he/she Christian?" as if that is the sole
criterion for being a good person or a potential friend?
If the only way you can connect with someone is based on religion, how
deep and meaningful can such a relationship be?
My dearest, truest friends donot share my faith. That doesn't make them
any less wonderful to me. I don't understand people who use only
religion as the basis of friendships.
I feel sorry for them, actually. They're cheating themselves.
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Glatzfamly
<Some stuff snipped>
>
> Didn't quite get our post, because you're kind
>of saying I'm small minded for thinking she mostly presented her goody-goody
>side, and then kind of saying (I think) that I wouldn't let her or any other
>Christian have faults, when I just posted that I like her better with
>faults...The post is generalized & rambles, with the usual put downs, of
>Diann
>
I'm sorry that you thought that I was directing my comments at you. I did not
mean to imply that you are small minded. What I was trying to say (obviously
unsucessfully) was that there are those that won't let Amy be Amy even after
she finds out who she really is. It doesn't fit their image of who she is. I
can't say that I relate to her better now that she is getting divorced, but I
do relate to her because like her I am a person with many faults (among them
clarity). I always knew that she had them because we all do. I've been
disappointed too many times by others to think that there is someone out
there(in this world) that has no faults (with, of course, the possible
exception of my wife :o) ).
But what are the "usual putdowns" that you refer to? I did not intend to put
you down and I apologize if you took it that way. I was just commenting on
those who keep blinders on when it comes to their favorite celebrities. They
want to somehow or another believe that person has it all together all the
time.
As for me, a lot of my friends are non-Christians. We enjoy each others
company and share many things in common (sports, family etc). We connect just
fine but could connect even better if the other had the relationship that I do
with Jesus...
Glatzfamly
>> Do you ever just connect with someone without religion as a basis?
>
>
>You bring up a good point here. How many times have you heard from the
>mouth of a Christian friend, when you talk about someone you've met or
>would like them to meet "Is he/she Christian?" as if that is the sole
>criterion for being a good person or a potential friend?
>
I've never had that basis for a friendship, but I know those who do.
>If the only way you can connect with someone is based on religion, how
>deep and meaningful can such a relationship be?
>
I get along better with non-Christians than I do with some Christians because,
in most cases, I don't have to be anyone other than who I am to satisfy them.
>My dearest, truest friends donot share my faith. That doesn't make them
>any less wonderful to me. I don't understand people who use only
>religion as the basis of friendships.
>
Neither do I.
>I feel sorry for them, actually. They're cheating themselves
Not only are they cheating themselves they are cheating others as well. How do
they know that God won't use them to bring faith into the lives of those who's
friendships they don't cultivate? How do they know that they may be the friend
that someone might need in a crisis in their lives, or vice versa?
Doorman 1
>>deep and meaningful can such a relationship be?
>>
>I get along better with non-Christians than I do with some Christians
>because,
>in most cases, I don't have to be anyone other than who I am to satisfy them.
>
wow, what does this say about christians?
russ
Covenant
paul...@my-deja.com wrote in message <7jv717$msl$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>Zomb,
>
>Sorry if I offended you with my comparisson. I did not mean to compare
>Janis and Marla. What I was comparing were the sums of money. Vince
>only has 22 million (
Sorry... mean no disrespect...
but, *only* 22 million.... **Only** !!
Give me ONE of those and I'd live the rest of my life quite happily...
(And why does the phrase .....easier for a camel to pass through the eye of
a needle.....running through my head??)
Cheers!
Covenant.
An Old OLD Man With Far Too Much Time On His Hands
Ann Michaloski
>> unsucessfully) was that there are those that won't let Amy be Amy
>> even after
>> she finds out who she really is. It doesn't fit their image of who
>> she is I
>
> can't say that I relate to her better now that she is getting
> divorced, but I
> do relate to her because like her I am a person with many faults
> (among them
> clarity). I always knew that she had them because we all do. I've
> been
> disappointed too many times by others to think that there is someone
> out
> there(in this world) that has no faults (with, of course, the possible
>
> exception of my wife :o) ).
Why do christians look so desperately for a flawless person? Could it
be to simply justify the struggle?. The goal is to be holy as he is
holy and over come sin in our lives. There are very few people who you
can look at and say , he or she is holy. So maybe to make the goal more
attainable in our minds we tend to find someone like Amy and since we
really don't know her we can give her all the wonderful attributes we
want and say "see there's someone living it ". I can do it too. The
problem with this is that we are supposed to look to Jesus as our goal,
which tends to make us fall on our face and say woe is me. I think,
though, that God wants us to be realistic about our human condition and
admit that we will never be flawless this side of heaven. The closer I
get to God the worse I look but he still stays right there despite my
flaws and makes me want to be better than I am. I think the best we can
do by looking at other Christians is to find someone who is honest not
flawless and humble enough to be dependent on God for there
righteousness.
Annie
Diann4466
I think they do because many are concerned with the effect of another's
influence on them...they are afraid they will be led astray by someone else,
lower their own standards and tolerances. Let's face it, the more strict and
rigid a person is about their faith, the more they have to isolate themselves
from the world to maintain it. To be extreme, you must surround yourself by
examples of the extreme. This can be seen progressively all the way up to
cults. It is a social psych thing, conformity & group dynamics. Diann
ME
My husband started a company with a female, our families were friends. They
spent a lot of time together and more and more became inseparable. He
eventually told me that she understood him like no other and vice versa.
Eventually both families separated and they moved in together. Now this was
probably an emotional affair before it became a sexual one, but nonetheless,
all the same damage wise, maybe, in my view, worse. I could deal with the
sexual thing, I think, but the emotional one, you can't.
I don't know Amy's situation, and frankly I don't care, but don't fool
yourselves into thinking that anyone but your spouse should be your
soulmate. When you think that way, thats the foothold for the devil, in my
opinon. Get counselling, get that person away from your life, and pray to
God to get back to where you were or better.
Me
Glatzfamly wrote in message <19990612234829...@ng34.aol.com>...
>Diann wrote:
>
>>That "soulmate" quote didn't bother you?! Soul-mate, as in: "the perfect
one
>>for me", "the one I was destined for", "the only one I belong with",
etc.,
>>etc. Soulmate as in emotional adultery? Don't want to say much, because
>>this
>>is being quoted out of "Star", and I don't judge Amy ~ I don't care if she
>>was
>>with Vince. She's only become more interesting to me with this type of
>>potential, it's like she's finally a real person, an adult human being,
not
>>just a tape recording of bible verses and reasons to be good with a
>>perma-smile. Sorry folks, but I can relate to her more if these rumors
are
>>true, rather than if they aren't. Also, the hugeness of the ex-wife's
>>settlement does not imply Vince's innocence, and just because the letters
>>weren't entered into the proceedings as evidence, doesn't mean they don't
>>exist. Negotiations may have gone on behind the scenes. But, again, this
is
>>Star magazine we're talking about, so it can't be taken too seriously.
>>Diann
>
>
>I think Amy's always been a real person, an adult human being. Those that
>thought that she was what you described as " a tape recording of bible
verses
>and reasons to be good with a perma-smile" are very small minded people
that
>can't see beyond the surface.
>
>Amy has always been very open about who she is, with all the flaws that all
of
>us have. But there are still those that won't let Christians, especially
those
>who are in the place of someone like Amy, have those flaws. Somehow or the
>other they are supposed to be different, why I don't know. We are all in
the
>same condition...
>
>
>
Glatzfamly
>Why do christians look so desperately for a flawless person? Could it
>be to simply justify the struggle?. The goal is to be holy as he is
>holy and over come sin in our lives. There are very few people who you
>can look at and say , he or she is holy. So maybe to make the goal more
>attainable in our minds we tend to find someone like Amy and since we
>really don't know her we can give her all the wonderful attributes we
>want and say "see there's someone living it ". I can do it too. The
>problem with this is that we are supposed to look to Jesus as our goal,
>which tends to make us fall on our face and say woe is me. I think,
>though, that God wants us to be realistic about our human condition and
>admit that we will never be flawless this side of heaven. The closer I
>get to God the worse I look but he still stays right there despite my
>flaws and makes me want to be better than I am. I think the best we can
>do by looking at other Christians is to find someone who is honest not
>flawless and humble enough to be dependent on God for there
>righteousness.
>
Well said Annie. I couldn't agree with you more...
Glatzfamly
>>I get along better with non-Christians than I do with some Christians
>>because,
>>in most cases, I don't have to be anyone other than who I am to satisfy
>them.
>>
>
>wow, what does this say about christians?
>
>russ
>
You'll find this in all people, not just Christians. I'm acquainted with some
non-Christians that are the same way, I don't conform to their idea of what I
should be like so I'm persona non grata...
VGillFan1
consider her to be my "soulmate" as well as considering my husband as my
"soulmate".
Debbie in TN
Devon Whitehead
VGillFan1 wrote:
Thanks Deb! God has blessed us both with wonderful friends! :)
LilSmart1
I don't know if Amy was/is into Vinny or not. Don't care much at this point.
So don't accuse me of saying I think Amy is a ho....
But if I knew my husband, for example, had "soul mate" letters with another
woman....he'd come home from work to his belonging in flames in the front yard.
Homey don't play adultery.
-Julie
"Watch the cucumber...
Oh, how smooth his motion...
Like butter on a bald monkey..."
-VEGGIE TALES, "The Dance of the Cucumber"
Clinton Lee
be the case for everyone -- this is just my opinion. I don't judge anyone
if they have a different opinion, so please don't flame me.). You can have
best friends that you have alot in common with, but I do agree that you're
treading dangerous ground finding a soulmate in someone other than your
spouse. And if you do find a soulmate in someone other than your spouse
(assuming everything is totally heterosexual on everyone's part - I do not
want to get into the gay issue regarding this), then you'd better run the
other way. I'm not sure I'd even want my husband finding a girl best
friend. When he married me, he said I was his one and only, and that
shouldn't just mean sexually. When he married me, he was saying that he
found everything in me that he needed or could potentially need. If he ever
found someone else, he just had better not let me catch them, because I
might just end up serving time for it! :-)
Of course, maybe we should also acknowledge (for those of us that are
Christians and try to look to the Bible as the direction for our marriages)
that "soulmate" is not a Biblical principle. It really is a romantic notion
someone came up with once upon a time. But I believe that for Christians,
if you are seeking the Lord when you choose your spouse, then you will
choose the one He meant for you to be with, in which case there should be no
need to look further than the person you're with. I know that will spawn a
whole new speculative thread...guess I probably should not have gone there.
Sorry.
Another thing to keep in mind, Vince's usage of "soulmate" may not have been
the word he meant to use at the time. We all use the wrong wording at
times. Here's an instance where we should give them the benefit of the
doubt.
Melissa
LilSmart1 wrote in message <19990615012745...@ng-fu1.aol.com>...
TinPan1010
their smiles and her head nestled next to him. A Photo sometimes make it hard
to mask feelings. They look more like lovers than friends or soulmates. Maybe
Amy and Vince has the same definition of a sexual relationship that Bill
Clinton had. My opinion of Vince's divorce is that Janis had a "smoking gun"
in order to get the settlement she received. Vince may also have capitulated
to keep Amy from having to testify. Amy may wind up giving the" ship" to Gary
in their settlement, we shall see. It is hard to keep high profile divorce
settlements secret for long.
But, shame!, shame! that Amy and Vince cared so little of themselves, their
children, their fans to have their relationship entered into divorce actions
whether made public or not. Their children will be the real losers after all
the mudslinging is finished. Their relationship during 1997 played into
Vince-Janis divorce and their relationship during 1997-1998 played into
Amy-Gary divorce action.
Whether their relationship was adulterous or not does not matter now. The
public perceives that it was, fueled by the tabloids,the internet, the general
media and their refusal to publicly issue a written statement concerning their
relationship since January 1.
But back to lurking, their will be more headlines later when the final divorce
actioned of Amy and Gary is issued. It is sad what some intimate relationships
do to families. How many times has it happened in Hollywood.
MyPest
>Date: Tue, 15 June 1999 03:27 PM EDT
>Message-id: <19990615152729...@ng-cd1.aol.com>
Unless you really know what you are talking about you should just shut
up! Any photo can be enhanced to make it appear different. Since it was
Vince's lawyer who brought up the "letters" my feeling is that there weren't
any, Janis was just using that as a tactic to get whatever she could out of
Vince.(Gee , maybe Janis can hand the letters over the back fence to Gary) My
thoughts are that there weren't any letters, unless Janis had some from her
friend. Both Vince and Amy were willing to testify under oath that they did
not have a sexual relationship- that should make you believe them- I don';t
think either of them have a lying bone in their body.
I don't know what kind of relationship Amy and Gary had. But I do know that
for the last few months of their marriage, the Gills were very troubled and
most of that was from things that Janis did and said to Vince. She always
wanted more and more, and when he refused to move from their "simple" home to
the mansion that she wanted, she took her anger and revenge out on him.
Apparantly, she found someone rather quickly who caters to her every whim and
desire.
Their divorce records were supposed to be sealed and all parties signed a
confidentility agreement, obivously money talks and files were opened.
As far as Vince's relationship with his daughter the main reason he probably
wanted the records seale was so that she did not find out what a bitch her
mother really is. Vince and Jenny spend a lot of time together, and he would
cut off his right arm before doing anything that would harm her.
There are a whole lot of people in Nashville who think very highly of Vince
and Amy- one dj who is close friends with Gary, but just acquainted with Vince
even said on the air "that Vince Gill is the most decent person I know" It is
too bad that all this crap has to be brought back up.
paul...@my-deja.com
Amy and Vince says more than the text. WOW!!! I guess that depends on
what you want to believe. My husband and I could not understand why
they would use such an inoccent looking picture if all they want to do
is imply that there was an affair between Amy and Vince. There is
NOTHING compromising in that picture!!! In fact it looks VERY much
like a picture of TWO FRIENDS!! As for Amy being close to Vince in the
picture, maybe you haven't noticed this, but all celebreties take
pictures like that with everyone! I have seen several pictures of Gary
like that with other women, I have even seen him hugging women in that
way on PTC. And I have also seen Amy like that with others, even
fans!!! Get a grip!!!
In article <19990615163349...@ng-bd1.aol.com>,
paul...@my-deja.com
To the people who are saying Amy had soulmate letters with Vince and
that she should not have said they were Soulmates, etc... Please re-
read the article!!!
Vince Gills LAWYER claimed that they were soulmates and not lovers, NOT
AMY nor VINCE!
Secondly, Janis ALLEGED that she had the letters that they sent to each
other which would expose their relationship. However these "letters"
were NEVER produced. It seems to me that if they existed they would
have been used, don't you think?
In article <fwv93.26326$vP2....@news.rdc1.tn.home.com>,
> LilSmart1 wrote in message <19990615012745.22862.00001846@ng-
fu1.aol.com>...
> >Want my opinion?
> >
> >I don't know if Amy was/is into Vinny or not. Don't care much at
this
> point.
> >So don't accuse me of saying I think Amy is a ho....
> >
> >But if I knew my husband, for example, had "soul mate" letters with
another
> >woman....he'd come home from work to his belonging in flames in the
front
> yard.
> >
> >Homey don't play adultery.
> >
> >-Julie
> >"Watch the cucumber...
> >Oh, how smooth his motion...
> >Like butter on a bald monkey..."
> > -VEGGIE TALES, "The Dance of the Cucumber"
> >
>
>
nycz...@my-deja.com
paul...@my-deja.com wrote:
> Okay,
>
> To the people who are saying Amy had soulmate letters with Vince and
> that she should not have said they were Soulmates, etc... Please re-
> read the article!!!
>
> Vince Gills LAWYER claimed that they were soulmates and not lovers,
> NOT AMY nor VINCE!
Big difference. Lawyer = paid, no conscience, unscrupulous liar
fas...@erols.com
>But, shame!, shame! that Amy and Vince cared so little of themselves, theirchildren, their fans to have their relationship entered into divorce actions whether made public or not. Their children will be the real losers after all the mudslinging is finished.
Shame! Shame! that you feel no compunction about being the judge. What a
load of crap.
Steve Hunter
>
> I think that the intimate photo of Amy and Vince says more than the text with
> their smiles and her head nestled next to him. A Photo sometimes make it hard
> to mask feelings. They look more like lovers than friends or soulmates.
If you've ever been around Amy in public you'd know that thousands of
pictures are taken of her in a given day. In all those pictures there
will always be some that are *misleading* but very valuable to a rag
like "the star".
> My opinion of Vince's divorce is that Janis had a "smoking gun"
> in order to get the settlement she received.
Wives are always entitled to a large percentage of a husband's earnings
during the marriage unless there's another agreement (pre-nup). In
Texas, it's Community Property (i.e. 50/50 split). "Smoking Gun"...
just an another uninformed opinion.
Steve Hunter, Breckenridge CO.
VGillFan1
written in those rags!
Catherine Joseph
from my church because there isnot a branch in the city i live in but still my best
friends arn't christians
cj
www.angelfire.com/hi/ccherie1
"Too much study rots the brain!"
1.5weeks and 6 months to go and counting!
Glatzfamly wrote:
> Maggie wrote:
>
> >> Do you ever just connect with someone without religion as a basis?
> >
> >
> >You bring up a good point here. How many times have you heard from the
> >mouth of a Christian friend, when you talk about someone you've met or
> >would like them to meet "Is he/she Christian?" as if that is the sole
> >criterion for being a good person or a potential friend?
> >
> I've never had that basis for a friendship, but I know those who do.
>
> >If the only way you can connect with someone is based on religion, how
> >deep and meaningful can such a relationship be?
> >
> I get along better with non-Christians than I do with some Christians because,
> in most cases, I don't have to be anyone other than who I am to satisfy them.
>
> >My dearest, truest friends donot share my faith. That doesn't make them
> >any less wonderful to me. I don't understand people who use only
> >religion as the basis of friendships.
> >
> Neither do I.
>
> >I feel sorry for them, actually. They're cheating themselves
>
> Not only are they cheating themselves they are cheating others as well. How do
> they know that God won't use them to bring faith into the lives of those who's
> friendships they don't cultivate? How do they know that they may be the friend
> that someone might need in a crisis in their lives, or vice versa?
>
AGUTSHALL
another newsgroup I read.
Amy
STAR....
Janis Gill claims the truth about her ex is very different from his Mr. Nice
Guy image.
Inside Nashville's most shocking divorce papers . . . I FLED IN TERROR FROM
RAGING VINCE GILL
SHOCKING secret divorce papers claim that Vince Gill -- country music's Mr.
Nice Guy -- was so nasty and abusive that his wife Janis was terrified of him.
STAR has learned that Janis Gill made the charges against the superstar singer
during their bitter court battle after 17 years of what seemed a fairy-tale
marriage. The warring couple -- who finally settled their divorce recently --
tried to keep the details of the messy marital split a secret.
Grammy-winner Gill's best-known hit I Still Believe In You was written in
loving tribute to Janis.
But in never-before-seen court papers obtained by STAR, she says he was far
different behind closed doors than his sweet-as-pie public image.
"Vince has an extremely bad temper and has been verbally abusive throughout our
marriage, screaming and yelling at me, calling me vile and abusive names,"
Janis charged in the court papers.
Vince and singer Amy Grant were soul mates not lovers, says the country
star's lawyer.
"He has also become enraged and thrown things around the house. I have been so
frightened of him when he had some of these outbursts that I have hidden myself
from him in fear."
She also accused Gill of trying to browbeat her into an unfair divorce
settlement early on.
During one meeting, she claims that Vince "lost control of his temper and
picked up a chair with the intention of throwing it out the window of my home.
"He has left abusive messages on my answering machine, and he screamed
obscenities at me."
Gill, 42, and Janis, 45 -- a member of the singing group Sweethearts of the
Rodeo -- married in 1980 after meeting on tour. The couple have a 17-year-old
daughter Jenny.
They separated quietly in April 1997. Just over a year later, Janis fired the
first salvo in the bitter battle over Gill's $22 million fortune.
At one point, Gill's relationship with singer Amy Grant became an issue in the
proceedings.
Gill's lawyer Lou Conner said he believed the other side was using Vince's
friendship with Amy Grant as a "hammer" to make accusations that the two were
having an affair during Gill's marriage. Janis planned to produce letters
allegedly written between Amy and Vince that detailed their feelings toward
each other.
But Conner said Vince and Amy were simply "soul mates" -- and that both were
prepared to testify under oath that they never had sex.
Grant -- who recently separated from her husband, Nashville entertainer Gary
Chapman -- hired her own lawyer for the case, and never gave a deposition.
Gill fought back with his own litany of complaints against the wife who
inspired some of country's most tender love songs.
"She has neither been supportive of my career nor in our personal life where
for years she has nagged me incessantly and has been abusive and vindictive
toward me, cursed me repeatedly during the course of our marriage and falsely
accused me of a variety of things."
Gill also claimed that in the year before filing the divorce, Janis emptied
$70,000 a month out of their joint bank account; bought a $700,000 house for
herself; spent $500,000 on a horse barn; and another $500,000 on a dress shop
she opened with her sister.
They settled out of court last December. Janis pocketed more than $9 million --
and that sum could reach $15 million as she collects 38 percent of all
songwriting royalties Gill receives for songs he wrote during their marriage.
She walked away with $6 million in cash, 150 acres of farmland valued at $1.5
million and her $700,000 house. She also kept the barn she built, the dress
shop and a Lexus car valued at $35,000. It's one of the highest divorce
settlements ever in Nashville.
>Subject: Re: Amy Mentioned in Star Magazine
>From: paul...@my-deja.com
>Date: Tue, 15 June 1999 07:15 PM EDT
>Message-id: <7k6mqk$4k7$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>
>
>Okay,
>
>To the people who are saying Amy had soulmate letters with Vince and
>that she should not have said they were Soulmates, etc... Please re-
>read the article!!!
>
>Vince Gills LAWYER claimed that they were soulmates and not lovers, NOT
>AMY nor VINCE!
>
>Secondly, Janis ALLEGED that she had the letters that they sent to each
>other which would expose their relationship. However these "letters"
>were NEVER produced. It seems to me that if they existed they would
>have been used, don't you think?
>
>
>
>
Amy
Junk: stuff we throw away
Stuff: junk we keep
ME
down to mudslinging and money grubbing between two people, it is very sad
indeed.
Me
AGUTSHALL wrote in message <19990616152131...@ng-fz1.aol.com>...
Julie Anne
little or nothing about.
-Julie
No insulting signature here! No-sir-ee!
fai...@my-deja.com
records, and is really an alien who landed at Roswell in 1947, and is
sending out messages to the other aliens to coordinate the takeover, by
encoding them on the label side of her cd's? It's gotta be true, i read
it in line at the checkout.
Eric, Amy, & Darcy Carlisle
a tape recording of bible verses and reasons to be good with a
perma-smile.>>
Don't you think songs like "Faithless Heart" and "Shadows" show her
vulnerability? I think she is the least phony "public" person there is.
Amy C.
Jessica & Brian
and manipulate photos all the time for my brochures and such. You would
not believe what can be done to distort or completely change a photo!
Besides, how could the one second it takes to photograph someone be a
true representation of their entire lives? Just my thoughts; hope I
haven't made anyone mad.
Jessica
TinPan1010 wrote:
>
> I think that the intimate photo of Amy and Vince says more than the text with
> their smiles and her head nestled next to him. A Photo sometimes make it hard
> to mask feelings. They look more like lovers than friends or soulmates. Maybe
> Amy and Vince has the same definition of a sexual relationship that Bill
> Clinton had. My opinion of Vince's divorce is that Janis had a "smoking gun"
> in order to get the settlement she received. Vince may also have capitulated
> to keep Amy from having to testify. Amy may wind up giving the" ship" to Gary
> in their settlement, we shall see. It is hard to keep high profile divorce
> settlements secret for long.
> But, shame!, shame! that Amy and Vince cared so little of themselves, their
> children, their fans to have their relationship entered into divorce actions
> whether made public or not. Their children will be the real losers after all
Ann Michaloski
My feeling exactly. I can't figure out this image dichotomy she has.
Some people still want to see her as the sweet innocent 17 year old when
for years she has been more than honest that she is a flesh and blood
human who struggles with that flesh just like the rest of us.Annie
Ann Michaloski
> I have to agree with MyPest....pictures do lie....I work in graphic
> arts
> and manipulate photos all the time for my brochures and such. You
> would
> not believe what can be done to distort or completely change a photo!
> Besides, how could the one second it takes to photograph someone be a
> true representation of their entire lives? Just my thoughts; hope I
> haven't made anyone mad.
>
> Jessica
>
There are pictures that are a lot more cuddly than that one on the foa
web site side be side with ones of Amy and Gary. I think she is just
one of those huggy, touch you kind of people.
Annie
Diann4466
>vulnerability? I think she is the least phony "public" person there is.
Not really, because she never seems to act on anything in her songs, they are
just random, passing thoughts. Now, don't get me wrong, I am not saying she
should go out and live a life of debauchery, so I could relate to her (it's not
like I live a life of debauchery either). I am just saying she seems to have
taken action on a feeling she has been passively describing, but denying
herself for years. I do respect that on some level. On another level, it is
sad to see the break up of the marriage as well, I have nothing against Gary,
or marriage for that matter. Diann
JL
smile for a picture. and try to look good. don't read into that. it's
just a picture.
Jessica & Brian wrote:
>
> I have to agree with MyPest....pictures do lie....I work in graphic arts
> and manipulate photos all the time for my brochures and such. You would
> not believe what can be done to distort or completely change a photo!
> Besides, how could the one second it takes to photograph someone be a
> true representation of their entire lives? Just my thoughts; hope I
> haven't made anyone mad.
>
> Jessica
>
VGillFan1
up against Vince and I assure you that we are not friends, soulmates, or
lovers! Vince has just been kind enough to pose with us fans!
Debbie in TN
KJCSmith1
the facts from them themselves then no one has a right to judge them. We don't
live with them....we don't know what they are going through. But to take a
tabloids word on anything is just not smart!!
Gadoza
do not even want to comment on it! Geez! What is this world coming to?
-g>She's only become more interesting to me with this type of
>potential, it's like she's finally a real person, an adult human being, not
>just a tape recording of bible verses and reasons to be good with a
>true, rather than if they aren't.