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Maggie Smolkovich

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Feb 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/17/00
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From today's Tennessean:

Gary and his kids propose to Jennifer

Former TNN personality Gary Chapman is engaged to his one-year
girlfriend, and the proposal was a family affair.

Gary gathered his kids, his nanny and his girlfriend, Jennifer Pittman,
30, in a room and handed Jennifer a card. On the outside: A picture of
Gary and the kids. On the inside the caption reads: "Will you marry us?"

Jennifer cries. Gary presents a diamond ring. The kids, literally, start
dancing.
"It was one of the sweetest things ever in my life," Gary said
yesterday.
"I had the romantic dinner at F. Scott's lined up and it occurred to me
to include my kids. They love her a great deal and it made sense for
them to be a part of it."

Gary met Jennifer when she was an animal trainer at Universal Studios
and Chapman's Prime Time Country was on location there.

An animal trainer for Gary? This is a perfect match!

But seriously, folks, I've met Jennifer several times and I must say
that she's really sweet, pretty and very approachable. (That'll be $25,
Gary.)

Regarding the age difference, Gary, who is 42, quips:
"I'm incredibly immature and she's mature, so we've met at a good
place."
Mazel tov!


lillith99

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Feb 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/18/00
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He has a tendency to get a little over ZEALOUS in his feelings regarding
Amy - doesnt he?

3kidsmom <4.k...@home.com> wrote in message
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> Hey don't turn this into another he did this, so she did this type of
thing.
> IT happened and its over! Nothing you nor I can do......
>
> Gary best to you and Jennifer, and Amy best to you and Vince.
>
>
> chrisnu <elsha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:6R1r4.232$A4.1...@c01read04.service.talkway.com...
> > I bet that cut through people's expectations of Amy getting married
> > first. For all of you who wish Gary the best, why not do the same for
> > Amy? She has been through a lot too, whatever opinion you have of them
> > both. They were divorced, they were dating other people, now Gary's
> > getting married. Isn't that considered adultery around here by a few
> > people who are wishing him the best? The same rules you slap on Amy
> > apply to him too - he is comitting adultery by marrying after getting
> > divorced, in some opinions.
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chrisnu

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Feb 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/18/00
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3kidsmom wrote:
>Nothing you nor I can do......
True, but I bet if it was Amy who was engaged, everyone would be on her
about it. <sarcasm>It's ok if it's him, if it's Amy, oh no.</sarcasm>

chrisnu

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Feb 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/18/00
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lillith99 wrote:
>He has a tendency to get a little over ZEALOUS in his feelings >regarding Amy - doesnt he?
People deserve equal treatment - obviously you don't think so. People
have been chastising Amy for dating, even thought Gary has even before
her without criticism. Now Gary is engaged, and you expect people to be
honky-dory with it. If Amy was engaged, I think you'd be pretty mad
about it.

3kidsmom

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Feb 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/18/00
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Go back and check the archives.....I don't think I have ever put Amy down
for her decision, while I don't necessarily agree with it, I wasn't there,
and it isn't my life. I have constantly given both her and Gary the
benefity of my doubt, as I have been through what they have. I have walked
about a quarter mile in their shoes, and I would want fair treatment, so why
should they be any different. If Amy's happy, I am happy, in the grand
scheme of things that is. I have not, nor will I take sides in this...it
just isn't my place, and really who cares?!?

Belittle my opinion if you will, question my honesty or feelings, go ahead,
but I am hoping the best for both of these two people. I have followed both
of their careers and love both of their music. Because I like Gary's
artistry, that doesn't lessen my appreciation of Amy's either! Does it for
you? I can like more than one thing at any given time,,,,,,,can you?????


chrisnu <elsha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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> 3kidsmom wrote:
> >Nothing you nor I can do......
> True, but I bet if it was Amy who was engaged, everyone would be on her
> about it. <sarcasm>It's ok if it's him, if it's Amy, oh no.</sarcasm>

3kidsmom

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Feb 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/18/00
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How does anyone of us know that she isn't? maybe she's keeping it private?
Her choice, her perogative. Don't put words into peoples mouth that are
reflective of how you feel! Not all of us have an axe to grind with Amy for
what happened or with Gary for what happened.....old chinese man once
said....SHIT HAPPENS!

chrisnu <elsha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> lillith99 wrote:
> >He has a tendency to get a little over ZEALOUS in his feelings >regarding
Amy - doesnt he?
> People deserve equal treatment - obviously you don't think so. People
> have been chastising Amy for dating, even thought Gary has even before
> her without criticism. Now Gary is engaged, and you expect people to be
> honky-dory with it. If Amy was engaged, I think you'd be pretty mad
> about it.

seas...@my-deja.com

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Feb 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/18/00
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In article <J73r4.42848$Mg.7...@c01read03-admin.service.talkway.com>,

"chrisnu" <elsha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> People deserve equal treatment - obviously you don't think so. People
> have been chastising Amy for dating, even thought Gary has even before
> her without criticism. Now Gary is engaged, and you expect people to
be
> honky-dory with it. If Amy was engaged, I think you'd be pretty mad
> about it.

I'm sorry, but you don't seem to be living up to this statement you have
made about treating people equally. You were the one accusing Gary of
the "Amy's Cup Size" post and calling him all sorts of names. I don't
see how that is treating Gary like you would Amy. You really need to get
a grip.

First of all Gary has claimed that Amy left him because she had "given
her heart" to Vince Gill. That would be concidered adultery (Matthew
5:28). The spouse who is cheated on is "allowed" to re-marry. Amy isn't.
(Matthew 19:9) That is why people will accept Gary's re-marriage and not
Amy's, because that is how God sees it. Don't even bother trying to say
otherwise, it would be a futal argument.


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sbh

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Feb 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/18/00
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I used to be a big Amy Grant fan but have to admit I'm now a bigger
Gary Chapman fan. Somehow I feel much happier for Gary than I do for
Amy. I guess it's the fact that she and Vince had something in the
works long before the divorce. While I'm happy for Gary, part of me
wishes, somehow, someway he and Amy would have reconciled. That would
have been a great ending to a sordid story. I guess I can't dwell on
what might have been and hope they both continue serving the Lord with
their respective spouses to be.

chrisnu

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Feb 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/18/00
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sbh wrote:
>I used to be a big Amy Grant fan but have to admit I'm now a bigger
>Gary Chapman fan.
That's about as obvious as me having a nose on my face.

>I guess it's the fact that she and Vince had something in the
>works long before the divorce.

IYO. Not necessarily others. Not fact.

>their respective spouses to be.

I guess we'll see about that one....

Darrm

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Feb 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/19/00
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Some would say that marital unfaithfulness only applies to sexual
unfaithfulness. You don't seem to be one of those people (since Amy has
claimed she did not sleep with Vince, yet you claim she was guiltyof marital
unfaithfulness)
So then, if marital unfaithfulness is not limited to just sexual affairs, isn't
it possible that Gary was guilty of "marital unfaithfulness" in some form or
fashion and Amy was released first?
There's a whole list of husbandly responsibilities I believe. What if he
didn't live up to some of them, was he unfaithful to his marriage? Thus
releasing Amy?
Nobody knows every detail.

Darrm

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Feb 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/19/00
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-I don't care what happened. It's really none of my business. But I can say
that it's possible for even a spouse to be unsure of EXACTLY what took place,
unless they saw it with their own eyes.
-So, I'm sure that fans who attend functions could be even more in the dark,
only assuming what looks to be evident.
-As for me, I choose to believe that Amy did not have a sexual affair, because
she said she didn't. I choose to believe her. I also believe she was in love
with Vince for all those years, but still that is just my opinion.
-What really gets me (and this is not directed at you Can) is all those folks
who blasted Amy when she claimed that she felt God "released her from the
marriage".
Those people claimed it just couldn't be, and backed it up with literal
interpretations of the Scripture. Yet if you take it word for word, doesn't
the Scripture also say that if someone marries again after divorce they are
committing adultery? So, where are those same people now. I certainly haven't
noticed anyone calling Gary an adulterer. -And I don't think they should. I'm
happy for him. Yet, those people who blasted Amy with Scripture are certainly
being more than a little hypocritical. If you believe in a literal
interpretation of Scripture, you can't pick and choose what to ignore just
because it suits your agenda.
-Amy and Gary divorced. It's over. Should they have? Probably not. Yet I
refuse to believe that only one person participated in the events that led up
to the divorce. It takes two people to marry, and two people to divorce. If
Amy was completely happy with the way Gary treated her I doubt she would have
formed a close relationship with Vince. And that doesn't excuse anything, it
just shows that yes, even though Gary wanted the marriage to continue, he still
could have played a part in the events that led to its demise.
I wish them both well.

Darrm :-)


>Subject: Re: Gary's Getting Married
>From: Can Gokceatam cgo...@yahoo.com
>Date: 2/18/00 1:30 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <h5erass3oim6duhdt...@4ax.com>
>
>Knowing Steve Hunter in person, I can assure you that he doesn't get
>his information from Star or any "non-credible" magazine (as you put
>it) of that sort. Rather, you should say "personal experience". I and
>Steve have been around Amy for years in almost every event she
>participated in. We can see and analyze what we see. We don't need
>Star magazine to tell us things. That's the way I put it and I'm sure
>Steve will back me up on this.
>
>Can
>
>
>On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:55:01 GMT, "chrisnu" <elsha...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Steve Hunter wrote:
>>>Maybe because some people aren't big on the fact
>>What fact? DO you believe everything you read? The first magazine to
>>write this, Star, has had this article in their magazine: "Bat Boy
>>Found In Cave". Some credibility. All the other articles have built
>>upon that and used what they said in their article as evidence!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

craig doherty

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Feb 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/19/00
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his is not specifically addressed to chrisnu at all!
Just the general comments around.

Why can we not be happy for Gary, Jennifer and the kids. I have had only
(e-mail) pleasant experiences with Gary I would love to see him happy and
esp the kids. Every one knows it's never going to be the same without Amy in
the permanent fixture in the house, but Gary and the kids deserve some
stability and happiness.

I would love to be there to give Gary a good manly hug and congratulate him.
Craig
Perth

chrisnu wrote in message ...
>Can wrote:
><snip>
>>Enjoy each others company.
>Enjoy your company with the "Snooty Mr. Know-it-all's who think they
>can see someone's character from charity events" group.

chrisnu

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Feb 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/19/00
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Si wrote:
>Can't you for once stop trying to piss people off?
I don't try to piss people off, Amy haters are pissed at my opinion.

>You're just a whiner who would prefer a thread of
>bickering to a thread of congratulations.
If Amy was getting married, you would have been writing posts of
bickering. I don't want to congratulate a marriage that shouldn't
happen - the Bible does say divorced people (even if they weren't the
ones to file) are not to get married again.

Can Gokceatam

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Feb 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/19/00
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Well, you just undermined yourself. If we can't see someone's
character (or at least analyze what's going on) from charity events,
then you CAN'T judge Gary the way you do either coz you don't have
anything solid you can base your judgement on. You did NOT live with
them. So, I'd say take out your blindfolds and try to see things
*objectively*, NOT just from Amy's point-of-view. (and believe me, I
see objectively. I don't blame neither Amy nor Gary for the divorce. I
just state that I have a *feeling* that Amy had a little more motive
for divorce than Gary. And *I believe* that motive was Vince Gill) I
may be right or wrong. I at least don't defend Gary as obnoxiously as
you defend Amy.

Can


On Sat, 19 Feb 2000 00:59:25 GMT, "chrisnu" <elsha...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Si

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Feb 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/19/00
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On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 02:09:06 GMT, "chrisnu" <elsha...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>I bet that cut through people's expectations of Amy getting married
>first. For all of you who wish Gary the best, why not do the same for
>Amy? She has been through a lot too, whatever opinion you have of them
>both. They were divorced, they were dating other people, now Gary's
>getting married. Isn't that considered adultery around here by a few
>people who are wishing him the best? The same rules you slap on Amy
>apply to him too - he is comitting adultery by marrying after getting
>divorced, in some opinions.
>

Nunu-

Oh just shut up for once. Can't you for once stop trying to piss
people off? You're just a whiner who would prefer a thread of


bickering to a thread of congratulations.

Congrats Gary!

Si

Can Gokceatam

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Feb 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/19/00
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You are just speculating. You don't know if people would bickering if
Amy was getting married. I for one would have wished her well.
Marriage is a holy union. I wouldn't bicker over anyones marriage.

Divorce is a different thing.

Can


On Sat, 19 Feb 2000 05:42:43 GMT, "chrisnu" <elsha...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>>You're just a whiner who would prefer a thread of
>>bickering to a thread of congratulations.

AmyLH322

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Feb 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/21/00
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From: mod...@my-deja.com


>So much for his "heartbroken over Amy and Vince" act...
>

That is exactly how I felt.... first I felt so stupid, having defended Amy to
everyone who said she was seeing Vince, was going to divorce Gary, etc. Then I
take up for Gary, and gee, he didn't need it.

I am becoming more and more convinced that maybe God is showing us something
through all of this.... maybe not to place faith in man? Not to put anyone "on
a pedestal"... anyway, it's all been a nasty business, and I guess God'll sort
it out at the end.

Kymberneon1

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Feb 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/27/00
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Wonderful post...I agree totally!>Subject: Re: Gary's Getting Married
>From: da...@aol.com (Darrm)
>Date: 2/18/00 5:35 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <20000218203552...@ng-cs1.aol.com>
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