Ave Maria Morena
Cecio
I've recently seen the movie "Dance With Me" starring Chayanne and
Vanessa Williams and I'd like to know who performs the song "Ave Maria
Morena"(I think this is the title) nearly at the end of the movie,
when Chayanne and Williams dance this wonderful song together. I'd
also like to know where can I find it (from CD, mp3 or whatever) since
it's not included on the original movie CD soundtrack.
Thank you all in advance,
Cecio
Yambú
I haven't seen the movie, but there's an excellent chance that the
version they used was from Cachao Master Sessions, Vol. 1, which is
widely available. There it's called Lindo Yambú.
But hang out, Cecio. Someone will know. BTW, how is that flick? I'm at
least well acquainted with its cover, showing Vanessa in that blue
dress.
Is it still ok to say hubba, hubba?
- Mike Doran
Yambú
>I haven't seen the movie, but there's an excellent chance that the
>version they used was from Cachao Master Sessions, Vol. 1, which is
>widely available. There it's called Lindo Yambú.
>
Wait a minute. I just saw a reference to Ricardo Lemvo playing his own
composition in that movie, called "Ave Maria Por Dio". I don't know
it.
- Mike Doran
C. L.
rumba circles. As Yambu said, check out Cachao's first master sessions.
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tumbao
last year (Chano Pozo "El tambor de Cuba" - Tumbao Cuban Classics TCD 305).
The version there is by Chano Pozo y Su Conjunto Azul (Havana, 1946). I
can't recommend this CD enough...
Allan
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Philip Felipe Pasmanick
los Barrios" by Alberto Zayas. Two beautiful décimas and a famous
coro. Love it. Complete discographic info and playlist follows at
end of post, just because I have it handy.
I saw Dance With Me on TV. I loved the opening sequence, kinda phony
but still a love song to rumba, especially exciting when encountered
by accident flipping thru the channels.
But Iost interest 40 min. into it.
Jadedly,
Felipe "si cocinas como caminas" Pasmanick
Grupo Afro-Cubano de Alberto Zayas "El Melodioso"
vocals by Roberto Maza, y Carlos Embales
1955-1956, La Habana
Tumbao Cuban Classics TCD 708
El vive bien 3:09
Que me critiquen 3:00
La china linda 2:57
El yambú de los barrios 2:35
Ya no tengo amigos 3:05
Tata Perico 3:02
Se corrió la cocinera 2:56
A mi no me tocan campana 3:13
Era una gran señora 2:56
Una rumba en la bodega 2:48
La chapalera 2:48
Congo Mulense 3:00
Consuélate como yo 4:00
Ave María Morena 2:59
¿Dónde estabas anoche? 3:46
Desengaño de los roncos 4:08
A Malanga 3:16
La última rumba 3:21
Yambú
Pasmanick) wrote:
>The version I know of Ave María Morena is on the record "El Yambú de
>los Barrios" by Alberto Zayas....
>
I had forgotten. I just listened to it. You remember that night at
Galo's, you talked me through that entire cd, translating the whole
thing? I wouldn't mind doing that again sometime.
- Mike Doran
dmreed
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one of my favorite LPs and maybe the first rumba LP I purchased (has it been
released on CD?).
Mike...if you ever do it again, please try to tape it so others can share!
--
Aché
Dennis M. Reed "Califa"
http://dmreed.com, my home page includes my musical autobiography which
contains anecdotes, audio recordings and photos of groups I have worked with
from the late 50s to the present (with 1960s recordings by pianist Carlos
Federico, 1970s photos of Celia Cruz and Pete Escovedo, and recent photos of
some of my wife's now famous PR dinners with Larry Harlow, Yomo Toro,
etc. ), and selected LP and CD recordings from my Latin music collection of
CDs, LPs, tapes, books, and instructional materials.
http://dmreed.com/RumbaRama.htm contains audio links to rumba recordings on
my site and to other links. http://dmreed.com/santeria_ifa_yoruba.htm is a
new page in progress. http://dmreed.com/US-Inter_Keyboard.htm contains
information about the US-International Keyboard (WINDOWS 95/98) and a large
printable keyboard image.
Piero Gonzalez
would recommend:
Cheo Feliciano - Una voz. . . Mil recuerdos
http://www.descarga.com/cgi-bin/db/17485.10?Fzq6o9Cm;;721
A very nice (modern) remake of the classic song. I highly recommend
it.
Piero
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Philip Felipe Pasmanick
Yambú wrote (snipped, referring to the great A. Zayas CD and my
obsessive off-the-cuff translation) "I had forgotten. I just listened
to it. You remember that night at
Galo's, you talked me through that entire cd, translating the whole
thing? I wouldn't mind doing that again sometime."
I'm glad you remember the experience fondly. I suspect some may not.
But the TEXTS of these classic rumbas are so TASTY, not to mention
intelligent, literary... I feel compelled to share them with the truly
loyal, like you, Yambú, who appreciate the rhythmic esthetics, but may
miss out on the linguistic goodies...
Octosyllabically,
Felipe (sonnets in his bonnet) Pasmanick
César N. Díaz
vocal...if you can find it. The LP version has a very interesting "Latin
Music Family Tree" on the back of the jacket. I don't remember the all the
names of the performers on the different tree branches, but, most of the
known ones (Mongo, Barretto, The Palmieri brothers, Pacheco) are listed
there.
Tito Rodríguez' live version, allegedly recorded at The Palladium, is a
favorite of mine and a good choice.
César..
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"Edward-Yemil Rosario" <luc...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> I had this album!! After many years (and having lost my collection), I ran
into
> it in a dust bin at the flea market at 23rd and 6th. I put it down (the ex
was
> looking for a dresser) and when I came back, it was gone!!! The date also
> included Chick Correa, if I'm not mistaken. What's the title of this
album?
>
Well, I'm sure my copy is sitting in a box at a Staten Island public storage
facility, near the Goethals Bridge. About the title, wasn't it something
like, "Latin Mann", or something like that?
> On another note, sorry we haven't connected for that dinner. My present
position
> demands that I go around presenting to politicians and foundation people,
> creating havoc with what little I have in terms of a social life.
No problemo, I'll give you and George a shout when I come back and we'll get
together. I'll probably go straight to J&R from JFK to get my fix of new
releases. :-)) You'll probably find me there.
César.
> Yours,
> Edward-Yemil Rosario
> http://www.fifthave.org
>
> Be Here now! (Pause) Whoops, you missed it! But
> don't worry, the here and now will be presented
> again soon, so stay alert!
> - The Swami from Miami
MS
> On 29 Oct 2002 09:56:15 -0800, cec...@hotmail.com (Cecio) wrote:
> I haven't seen the movie, but there's an excellent chance that the
> version they used was from Cachao Master Sessions, Vol. 1, which is
> widely available. There it's called Lindo Yambú.
Yes, that is correct. Almost all of the music in the movie is from the
Cachao Master Session recordings. I was surprised, as I thought it would be
another schlocky Hollywood salsa flick, like that movie "Salsa", with a very
commercialized version of salsa music. But the music was almost all Cachao.
The story was corny, but great music, good dance scenes, and Chayanne's
acting wasn't bad. Not a bad movie.
Yes, for anyone interested in Cuban music, the two Cachao Master Session
Recordings, and the third one, entitled "Cuba Linda", are a must-have.
zeno
-Zeno
Philip Felipe Pasmanick
another wrinkle: Ave María Morena is such a popular coro that it
turns up in unrelated songs. I like this one for self-serving
reasons; that is, it affirms that "the rumba has no borders ", it is
sung everywhere. It is, or course, in décima form.
Monomaniacally,
Felipe
Artist: Justi Barreto
Título: Guaguancó sublime
Album: "Ay donó"
(intro. redondilla, termina con romance)
El guaguancó lo más sublime
para el alma divertir
se debiera de morir
él que por bueno no lo estime
Pa' la rumba no hay fronteras.
En donde quiera se canta.
Donde quiera se levanta
una rumba sin bobera.
La rumba es la primavera
que en el mundo se ha extendido.
En Cuba ha sobresalido,
como en los demás países
y solas se forman raíces
de que nace el divertido.
Guaguancó lo más sublime
que combinación…ae
melodías hechiceras
convertidas en sol…ae
(coro) Ave María morena
Nina
--
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think she is having her own way, and the other is to let her have it.
-- Lyndon B. Johnson
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> que combinación.ae
> melodías hechiceras
> convertidas en sol.ae
>
> (coro) Ave María morena
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Yambú
Pasmanick) wrote:
>.... Ave María Morena is such a popular coro that it
>turns up in unrelated songs....
>
Like Maria Belén, on Yoruba Andabo's El Callejón de los Rumberos. God,
how I love that....
- Mike Doran
zeno
"Havana Festival"LP {Los Roncos} (Washington, Riverside)
Good reference source for those example of rumba played on "son" clave,
and with the secondo reversed from what is considered "correct" today.
Zeno
Robert E Beatty Jr.
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> This CD finally reissues some of that legendary material from the BC
> "Havana Festival"LP {Los Roncos} (Washington, Riverside)
>
> Good reference source for those example of rumba played on "son" clave,
> and with the secondo reversed from what is considered "correct" today.
>
> Zeno
>
Which begs the question - which side do you play it on? ;-)
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dmreed
old fashioned...just like I still play a basic tumbao LLRRLLRR instead of
the newer LLRLLLRR (good enough for Chano Pozo, good enough for me).
BTW there was quite a discussion a couple of years ago re guaguancó and
clave right here on RMAL!
One of these days I will post some links to rumba with son clave on my
RumbaRama page.
--
Aché
Dennis M. Reed "Califa"
http://dmreed.com, my home page includes my musical autobiography which
contains anecdotes, audio recordings and photos of groups I have worked with
from the late 50s to the present (with 1960s recordings by pianist Carlos
Federico, 1970s photos of Celia Cruz and Pete Escovedo, and recent photos of
some of my wife's now famous PR dinners with Larry Harlow, Yomo Toro,
etc. ), and selected LP and CD recordings from my Latin music collection of
CDs, LPs, tapes, books, and instructional materials.
http://dmreed.com/RumbaRama.htm contains audio links to rumba recordings on
my site and to other links. http://dmreed.com/santeria_ifa_yoruba.htm is a
new page in progress. http://dmreed.com/US-Inter_Keyboard.htm contains
information about the US-International Keyboard (WINDOWS 95/98) and a large
printable keyboard image.
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Philip Felipe Pasmanick
line by line translation for the Spanish-impaired. I had intended to
post it when the bruhaha got stratwed but couldn't find it. The
letters after each line in Spanishrefers to the rhyme scheme. If you
put this in Times font, 12 points, it should look better.
Hoy se encierra en este ritmo a - Today this rhythm contains
un Edén lleno de flores b 2x an Eden full of flowers
para ti, miles de honores b Thousands of honors to you
te quiero más que a mi mismo a I love you more than myself
en mi decir sin egoismo a In my own voice, without egotism
claro te voy a cantar c I will sing to you clearly
con mi sincera amistad c with my sincere friendship
yo soy un hombre correcto d I am a rightous man
para ti va mi afecto d so I offer you my affection
y mi sincera amistad. c and my sincere friendship
Yo quisiera haber nacido a I wish I'd been born
cuando nació Micaela b when Micaela was born
para alardearla en la escuela b to show off to her in school
que bien la he merecido a and how I would have deserved her!
porque le doy el sonido a For I give her the sounds
como es del habanero c as Havana sounds must be
sensibles notas del cuero c sensitive notes of the drumskin
que dulcifican el ambiente d that sweeten the environment
y que solamente siente d and which are only felt
quien ha nacido rumbero. c by the born rumbero.
Robert E Beatty Jr.
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> I still find it more natural to play on the 2 side of clave....I guess I
am
> old fashioned...just like I still play a basic tumbao LLRRLLRR instead of
> the newer LLRLLLRR (good enough for Chano Pozo, good enough for me).
>
> BTW there was quite a discussion a couple of years ago re guaguancó and
> clave right here on RMAL!
No way ;-)
> One of these days I will post some links to rumba with son clave on my
> RumbaRama page.
That would be great.
zeno
what you think Chano was playing is the last word on the subject.
Dennis, if you want to play rumba with anyone these days, you need to play on
the other side and understand all its implications ( eg. feeling where it is
with the clave etc.). I do not understand why you resist learning this. Had you
started working on it when you first knew about it you would have been totally
proficient by now. It has been the way Cubans played since the mid to late 50s
when we all first heard those recordings by Los Munequitos. How many years have
you known about it? We have been talking about it here for at least 4 (?)
years.
What you are talking about is an old convenience for band playing, now
considered virtually wrong, and certainly irrelevant to playing Cuban rumba
guaguanco etc. Evolution has always been part of the spirit of Cuban music, and
if you had ears when you heard Los Munequitos recordings from the 50s you would
have been hip to playing on that side from then.
I think you are mistaking old fashioned US band "guaguanco" from the 40s and
uninformed California street jamming from the 60s for actual Cuban rumba which
was transformed even before the revolution.
Don't feel bad Jack Costanzo and other old geezermamberos never learned it
either.
Admittedly on up tempos the old LLRRetc flows better unless you have really
done your woodshedding.
-c7s
dmreed
> Check out the video "Evolution of the Tumbadoras" Changuito. I am not sure
that
> what you think Chano was playing is the last word on the subject.
of course, conga playing has evolved from Chano's days...apparently many
conga players used LLRRLLRR during the 60s & 70s including gringos, PRs and
Cubans.
>
> Dennis, if you want to play rumba with anyone these days, you need to play
on
> the other side and understand all its implications ( eg. feeling where it
is
> with the clave etc.). I do not understand why you resist learning this.
Had you
> started working on it when you first knew about it you would have been
totally
> proficient by now. It has been the way Cubans played since the mid to late
50s
> when we all first heard those recordings by Los Munequitos. How many years
have
> you known about it? We have been talking about it here for at least 4 (?)
> years.
except for just a few small jam sessions, I have never tried to play
authentic folkloric music. There was no conscious resistence...I was just
too busy playing in bands and working and raising a family. I really found
out about the "new" way of playing guaguancó about 10 years ago and I have
not really played congas much since then. Now that I am retiring, I expect
to have time to woodshed and get my chops back and learn new stuff. I did
not have any Muñequitos recording until about 5 years ago and, if I recall
correctly, there is a mixture of playing guaguancó with and against clave on
many recordings, additionally, most of the older band guaguancós have the
single conga player playing with clave. there is also much playing, both
folkloric and band, where son clave is used instead of rumba clave!
>
> What you are talking about is an old convenience for band playing, now
> considered virtually wrong, and certainly irrelevant to playing Cuban
rumba
> guaguanco etc. Evolution has always been part of the spirit of Cuban
music, and
> if you had ears when you heard Los Munequitos recordings from the 50s you
would
> have been hip to playing on that side from then.
maybe now considered virtually wrong but not wrong back in the 60s
evolution, of course!
>
> I think you are mistaking old fashioned US band "guaguanco" from the 40s
and
> uninformed California street jamming from the 60s for actual Cuban rumba
which
> was transformed even before the revolution.
even Cuban ban guaguancó was frequently played with clave...I did not
participate in 60s street jamming because I was in bands working 5-6 days a
week, working at my programming day job 5 days a week, and going to school 5
days a week, and....
>
> Don't feel bad Jack Costanzo and other old geezermamberos never learned it
> either.
I don;t feel bad...I just plan to begin to get caught up and pick up what I
had missed.
>
> Admittedly on up tempos the old LLRRetc flows better unless you have
really
> done your woodshedding.
>
> -c7s
>
> dmreed wrote:
>
> > I still find it more natural to play on the 2 side of clave....I guess I
am
> > old fashioned...just like I still play a basic tumbao LLRRLLRR instead
of
> > the newer LLRLLLRR (good enough for Chano Pozo, good enough for me).
> >
> > BTW there was quite a discussion a couple of years ago re guaguancó and
> > clave right here on RMAL!
> >
> > One of these days I will post some links to rumba with son clave on my
> > RumbaRama page.
> >
--
Aché
Dennis M. Reed "Califa" (http://dmreed.com)
My home page includes my musical autobiography which contains anecdotes,
zeno
of son clave, except Yambu where it has remained a traditional option. I am not
so sure about the early Los Munequitos recordings. I will have to review that
material to see where there might be examples, also the old Papines recordings.
Much of this material is readily available on CD now.
Zeno
dmreed
try to identify the guaguancós whish are played over son clave and make some
links on my RumbaRama page.
--
Aché
Dennis M. Reed "Califa" (http://dmreed.com)
My home page includes my musical autobiography which contains anecdotes,
audio recordings and photos of groups I have worked with from the late 50s
to the present (with 1960s recordings by pianist Carlos Federico, 1970s
photos of Celia Cruz and Pete Escovedo, and recent photos of some of my
wife's now famous PR dinners with Larry Harlow, Yomo Toro, etc. ), and
selected LP and CD recordings from my Latin music collection of CDs, LPs,
tapes, books, and instructional materials. http://dmreed.com/RumbaRama.htm
contains audio links to rumba recordings on my site and to other links.
http://dmreed.com/santeria_ifa_yoruba.htm is a new page in progress.
http://dmreed.com/US-Inter_Keyboard.htm contains information about the
US-International Keyboard (WINDOWS 95/98) and a large printable keyboard
image.
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