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VooDoo? / Re: Lyrics to Babalu? Ricky Ricardo's music.

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Tim Dugan

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Mar 12, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/12/96
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Denise Oliver wrote:
>Tim Dugan wrote:
>>Ted Thompson wrote:
>>>Can someone forward me the English and Spanish lyrics to "Babalu"?
>>
>>Do you mean Babalu from the _I Love Lucy Show_? [...]
>
>Ricky Ricardo was actually singing about "Babaluaye" an orisha in the
>Santeria tradition who syncretizes with the Catholic Saint Lazarus. There
>are numerous recordings of Cuban songs to Babaluaye, however they do not
>have English or Spanish lyrics - they are sung in Yoruba/Lucumi .

[syncretize-like synthesizing beliefs? orisha-??]

Wow! Santeria...essentially the same thing as VooDoo, no? That's
interesting. So Dezi Arnez was subliminally pushing VooDoo on TV
in the 50's? :) Actually, it seemed like his music might have
been more interesting than the comedy but it was essentially reduced
down to three syllables: Ba Ba Loo. Too bad.

Isn't the opening piece of JLGuerra y 440's Areito also a
piece from Santeria?

-t
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Absit omen.

Tim Dugan

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Mar 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/13/96
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In article <agorski-1203...@elegua.rice.edu>,
Art Gorski <ago...@rice.edu> wrote:
>In article <4i46ca$2...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM>, ti...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM
>(Tim Dugan) wrote:
>
>>Wow! Santeria...[more or less] the same thing as VooDoo, no?
>
>Well...kind of. But that's a big subject best left to alt.religion.orisha!

>
>>Isn't the opening piece of JLGuerra y 440's Areito also a
>>piece from Santeria

Whoops. My mistake. Here's some quotes from _Caribbean Currents:
Caribbean Music from Rumba to Reggae_ by Peter Manuel:

"areito: An Arawak socioreligious ritual with music and dance."

"Indigenous Carribbean music centered around a socioreligious
ceremony called _areito_, in which as many as a thousand
participants would dance in concentric circles around a group
of musicians. The musicians sang mythological chants in call-
and-response style, playing rattes (later called 'maracas')
guard scrapers (guiros), and slit drums called mayobuacan. ..."

"Santeria. A Yoruba-derived Afro-Cuban religion."

"Vodou (...). A Dahomeyan-derived Afro-Heitian religion."

The book describes Santeria as similar to Voodoo.

Hey...this is a good intro book on Afro-Latin type music...check
it out some time. E.g., it describes music by regions as well as
Salsa's origin in New York, a sort of offspring of the Cuban _son_...
(Does this have something to do with the small controversy as to whether
Salsa is an "afro-latin" sound?)

-t

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Absit omen.

Barry Cox

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Mar 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/15/96
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In all the discussion, I haven't seen anyone post the lyrics. So forgive
the inaccuracies or the repetition, but here's my shot from memory.
(Written by Margarita Lecuona, Ernesto's sister or cousin, I think. She
also wrote "Tabu, another great one).

BABALU

Esatn empiezando los velorios
Que le hacemos a babalu
Dame diesysiete velas
pa' ponerla en cruz
Dame un cabo de tabaco, Mayenye
y un Jarrito de aguardiente
Dame un poco de diniero, Mayneye
pa' que tener suerte (?)

Yo quiero pedir
que mi negra me quiera
que tenga dinero
y que no se muera'
y yo le quiero pedir
a babalu
una negra bembona como tu
y que no tenga otro negro
y que no se fuera (?)

Corrections, anyone? For recordings, I'd suggest the one with Orq. Casino
de la PLaya, on the Tumbao label.
Barry

srb...@primenet.com

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Mar 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/15/96
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In article <4i46ca$2...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM>, ti...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM
(Tim Dugan) wrote:

> Wow! Santeria...essentially the same thing as VooDoo, no? That's
> interesting. So Dezi Arnez was subliminally pushing VooDoo on TV
> in the 50's? :)

I guess the operative word here is "subliminally", and your smiley face
means you're kidding! Dezi A. was just reflecting the Cuban
commercialization of its folklore for big production shows, like in the
Copacabana, for foreign tourists. Kinda like Harlem's "Jungle Music" of
the late 20's...

I'm old enuf to remember the Babalooooooo lyric, but had no idea what it
meant until later in life when I started reading about Santería. I doubt
that the Lucy and Dezi show made many converts to the orishas.....

Sr. Bill


Tim Dugan

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Mar 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/21/96
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In article <srbill-1503...@ip151.lax.primenet.com>,

<srb...@primenet.com> wrote:
>In article <4i46ca$2...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM>, ti...@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM
>(Tim Dugan) wrote:
>
>> Wow! Santeria...essentially the same thing as VooDoo, no? That's
>> interesting. So Dezi Arnez was subliminally pushing VooDoo on TV
>> in the 50's? :)
>
>I guess the operative word here is "subliminally", and your smiley face
>means you're kidding!

Of course...The Lucy-Dezi couple were excruciatingly "correct"--they
didn't even sleep in the same bed on TV. [...]

-t
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"...that word isn't in any language--
it will never be uttered by a human mouth..." - DB

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