Chambelona
zeno
"Subject" area. That never happened before. I
guess I have to stop playing bongo riffs on the
keyboard while I am thinking, it causes all sorts
of unexpected alterations.
I am looking for any information regarding the
term "Chambelona", I need a definition, and any
other interesting implications, musical,
historical, political, whatever you got.
Thanks.
Zeno
MARCANE
Back in 1915 or 1916 in a political campaign against the then President
Menocal, the opposing party came up with their campaign slogan song...a conga.
It's the famous Chambelona conga....
Aé Aé Aé la chambelona...yo no tengo la culpa ni tampoco la culpona
It became so popular that the opposition won the election and the song has
become one of the most popular conga songs in carnivals all over Cuba to this
day transcendening its original political intent.
It can be heard in just about any medley of congas found on recordings
including on Cachao's 2nd album for the Salsoul label in the late 70's recently
re-issued on CD for the first time.
Marcané is Arturo Gómez
Yo si son de la loma pero estoy en el llano rajando la leña
Música es la mejor medicina
La verdad es la verdad....Más mentiras no quiero
It's OK to think, no one has to know
zeno
apparently it also means "oboe" another nice musical connection. I know you
remember Mitch Miller with Machito because you have mentioned those oboe things
before.
Zeno
Barry
have to do with the campaign? Was his nickname Chambelona or
something?
BTW, Can anyone recommend some good conga y comparsa recordings?
The ones on descarga look dauntingly cheesy...
-Barry
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Nina
the politicians "suckers". I could be wrong tho
--
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negro corriendo ratero
blanco sin grado doctor
y el negro es yerbatero.
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zeno
which pictures a large Afro Cuban ensemble of musicians and on the back of the
photo it is identified as "Chambelona de Marianar". Pictured are several trumpets,
bombo, snare, two triangles, a guitar (tres?), a marimbula, two Ekón players (a
large African style bell), and several other individuals without instruments. No
tumbadores are pictured. On the wall hangs a banner which says "Chambelona De
1917" and has some kind of "crest" beneath which is an emblem of a trumpet or
bugle. This photo, of course, looks much more recent in vintage than 1917. Just
noticed another guy in the photo who looks like mabe he is holding one of those
"viola membranófona" thingies. {Mike Doran will describe this for you again if you
do not remember}.
So I am thinking there may be some precedent for calling a musical ensemble a
"Chambelona". Maybe I should call my group Chambelona de Cotati or Chambelona de
Sonoma [Chambelona De Zeno] even though it is more a latin jazz group. I may use
the term "salsa-jazz" for local promotional purposes in this somewhat out-of-touch
community.
Zeno
Yambú
>....Just
>noticed another guy in the photo who looks like mabe he is holding one of those
>"viola membranófona" thingies. {Mike Doran will describe this for you again if you
>do not remember}....
>
That I will, leaving the tape delayed ice dancing competition for the
mo'...
Scholars don't know how this aberration came to be called viola, but
they opine that the banjo came to Habana with 19th Century merchant
seamen from North America, and that the locals prized it, not qua
banjo, but for its round, parchment-covered body.
So its neck and strings were removed, a yoke was attached to its body
so that now it could be worn around a person's neck, with its skin and
body waiste-high, and played as a drum, with finger thumping.
It accompanied so-called coros de clave, in festival street
entertainment, to give the pulse to the coro. It didn't have a long
run.
- Mike Doran
zeno
de claves and it really is an interesting form since there are so many hand held
percussion instruments being used and everyone's part fits together with the clave. It
is almost like batucada Cuban style in that it seems you can keep adding more
instruments and parts. In fact, one of the Muñequitios was playing an agogo with a
pattern very reminiscent of one you hear in samba.
Zeno
Barry
modified for current show purposes and not really representative of
"traditional" coro de clave.
(I believe Nabokov said "reality" was the only word which was
meaningless without quotation marks, I think I will add "traditional"
to that list...)
What little I've read about them seems to emphasize the large number
of vocal participants and the minimal percussive element.
I saw a Rumba show at Town Hall here in NY a few years ago, with
members of several well known rumba groups (Raices Profundas, Raices
Habaneras, Yoruba Andabo) in which they used a couple of violas, which
looked like the puerto rican pandereta, that is, a circular frame
drum, with a broomstick coming out of it, sort of a vestigal banjo
neck, I guess.
Some of the old son recordings use a banjo (with strings) instead of a
tres. Its interesting that what is always described here as an
instrument of African origin also gets turned into a drum when it goes
to Cuba.
-Barry
zeno <ze...@sonic.net> wrote in message news:<3C70B56C...@sonic.net>...
Yambú
>....Some of the old son recordings use a banjo (with strings) instead of a
>tres....
>
No kidding? Is any of it on cd?
- Mike Doran
zeno
referred to as 'clave choir', but I might be mistaken. I assume Los Muñequitos captures the
spirit of the coro de claves and couldn't be too far off since they must be plugged into
its history. The choirs I have heard (Festival In Havana recorded back in mid 50s) and seen
in snippets somewhere (Routes of Rhythm maybe or other well known footage). The choirs used
just the basic rumba instrumentation.
From the LP notes:
"The great choirs of Guaguanco, which have long since disappeared, dramatically reflected
local events and conditions and national politics in their exciting songs. .......
..... Some of these choirs had as many as 150 voices......
......The most famous Guaguanco choir in Havana, "Los Roncos", was under the direction of
Ignacio Pineiro, a great folklorist and ...."
[Riverside RLP 4005 {recorded in Havana in the late Spring of 1955}, but also same Material
as Washington label issue, and a couple of tracks reissued on a relatively recent Rhino
CD- look for tracks "Consuelate Como Yo" and/or "Dondon Estabas Anoche"]
Are there some recommeded recordings of coro de clave? I am not sure I have ever come
across any.
Zeno
Yambú
>Chambelona is the Cuba term for lollipop.
>Back in 1915 or 1916 in a political campaign against the then President
>Menocal, the opposing party came up with their campaign slogan song...a conga.
>It's the famous Chambelona conga....
>
>Aé Aé Aé la chambelona...yo no tengo la culpa ni tampoco la culpona
>
>It became so popular that the opposition won the election and the song has
>become one of the most popular conga songs in carnivals all over Cuba to this
>day transcendening its original political intent.
>
Congas callejeras were first officially approved as part of the
pre-election hoopla in 1909, during the governorship of José Miguel
Gómez. Instruments were cencerros, bombos, redoblantes, botija,
quijada, cornet and/or trumpet.
Nowadays in texts I see the terms "chambelonas" and "congas
callejeras" used interchangeably.
- Mike Doran
Yambú
>....I have seen Los Muñequitos perform coros
>de claves.....
>
I read somewhere that Clave y Guaguancó may also have some examples,
with viola. BTW, I also came across a passing reference to "violas de
chambeloneras" that were decorated with amulets and magic symbols.
- Mike Doran
Yambú
wrote:
>
>......Tan desvergonzadas fueron las medidas del gobernador norteamericano Leonard
>Wood para garantizar el triunfo de su candidato Tomás Estrada Palma, tan
>evidentes los fraudes, las coacciones, el favoritismo, que Bartolomé Masó,
>el otro aspirante a la presidencia, retiró su candidatura como protesta......
>
I just happen to be reading Theodore Rex, by Edmund Morris, vol. 2 of
his exhaustive biography of Teddie Roosevelt. This is what he had to
say about Leonard Wood:
"By any standards, Wood's two-and-a-half-year governorship had been a
spectacular success. A trained surgeon, he had transformed Cuba from
one of the world's most pestilential countries into one of its
healthiest......As a result, Cuba was free of yellow fever for the
first time in almost two centuries......[He] had built three thousand
new schools. He had paved Havana's dirt streets, and transformed its
parks from dangerous jungles into safe gardens. He had catacombed the
city with new sewer systems, water mains, and conduits for power and
communications. He had even protected the Cuban economy from
exploitation by American entrepreneurs. " -ibid, p. 105.
- Mike Doran
Barry
2 right now but they are both worth having.
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Barry
the trumpeter, used to play in a group called "La Chambelona de..."
damn I can't remember, some town in Cuba.
yam...@attbi.com (Yamb? wrote in message news:<3c71860d...@netnews.attbi.com>...
zeno
Sonoma. I really have to find an old version of "Lollipop" and see if I can adapt it to
the clave.
--zé nó
Nina
Cotati sounds kinda gross
--
Blanco corriendo atleta
negro corriendo ratero
blanco sin grado doctor
y el negro es yerbatero.
"zeno" <ze...@sonic.net> wrote in message news:3C731908...@sonic.net...
Yambú
>cool, now I'm wondering if I should call my group Chambelona de Cotati or Chambelon de
>Sonoma.....
>
I hope you go for just plain Chambelona.
>...... I really have to find an old version of "Lollipop" and see if I can adapt it to
>the clave.....
>
....By the Chordettes. The Arthur Godfrey Show had a female quartet by
that name, but it can't be the same group.
Anyway, it should be an easy chachachá adaptation.
Lollipop lollipop
Oh lolli lolli lolli
Lollipop lollipop.....
Call my baby lollipop
Tell you why
His kiss is sweeter than an apple pie
And when he does his shaky rockin' dance
Man, I haven't got a chance
I call him
Lollipop lollipop
Oh lolli lolli lolli
Lollipop lollipop.....
Sweeter than candy on a stick
Huckleberry, cherry or lime
If you had a choice
He'd be your pick
But lollipop is mine
Lollipop lollipop
Oh lolli lolli lolli
Lollipop lollipop.....
Crazy way he thrills me
Tell you why
Just like a lightning from the sky
He loves to kiss me till I can't see straight
GEE, MY LOLLIPOP IS GREAT
I call him
Lollipop lollipop
Oh lolli lolli lolli
Lollipop lollipop.....
- Mike Doran
malanga
"Yambú" <yam...@attbi.com> wrote in message
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> >
> "By any standards, Wood's two-and-a-half-year governorship had been a
> spectacular success. A trained surgeon, he had transformed Cuba from
> one of the world's most pestilential countries into one of its
> healthiest......As a result, Cuba was free of yellow fever for the
> first time in almost two centuries......[He] had built three thousand
> new schools. He had paved Havana's dirt streets, and transformed its
> parks from dangerous jungles into safe gardens. He had catacombed the
> city with new sewer systems, water mains, and conduits for power and
> communications. He had even protected the Cuban economy from
> exploitation by American entrepreneurs. " -ibid, p. 105.
>
> - Mike Doran
This post does not comform to the ultranationalist and anti-imperialist
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Consider this a warning.
Another such offensive act will result in your having to do a penance of
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zeno
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Barry
maybe on a somewhat "lower moral plane") might be easier to translate.
Plus its a better song anyway. Or maybe just keep the French and put
it to a cha-cha, which I think would fit quite nicely:
Annie aime les sucettes
Les sucettes à l'anis
Les sucettes à l'anis
D'Annie
Donnent à ses baisers
Un goût ani-
sé lorsque le sucre d'orge
Parfumé à l'anis
Coule dans la gorge d'Annie
Elle est au paradis
Pour quelques pennies Annie
A ses sucettes à l'anis
Elles ont la couleur de ses grands yeux
La couleur des jours heureux
Annie aime les sucettes
Les sucettes à l'anis
Les sucettes à l'anis
D'Annie
Donnent à ses baisers
Un goût ani-
sé lorsqu'elle n'a sur la langue
Que le petit bâton
Elle prend ses jambes à son corps
Et retourne au drugstore
Pour quelques pennies Annie
A ses sucettes à l'anis
Elles ont la couleur de ses grands yeux
La couleur des jours heureux
Lorsque le sucre d'orge
Parfumé à l'anis
Coule dans la gorge d'Annie
Elle est au paradis
Just a thought
-Barry
zeno <ze...@sonic.net> wrote in message news:<3C73BF45...@sonic.net>...
zeno
actually it would just be easier to do the traditional conga "Chambelona", that makes more
sense.