I'm on loop 635E near US 75N in Dallas this morning, traffic moving at speed
near a major interchange, so lots of cagers lane-changing and braking at the
last minute. I and my trusty ST1100 are cruising comfortably, aware of all
dangers, looking out for surprises, alert and ready. And then I was
confronted by something that no MSF, AMA or rider's course could adequately
predict. You know those plastic grocery bags? Ever seen one being blown
around in traffic? I saw one a couple of lanes away. Didn't pay it much
heed (why should I?). And in less than a second, it was caught by the draft
of three vehicles in precisely the perfect way to toss it into my path where
it wrapped around my helmet like an octopus around a meal! Just as I was
exiting 635E to 75N.
So here's my predicament: completely blind on a motorcycle in traffic
decelerating through 45mph in a decreasing radius blind left turn on rough
pavement with slowing traffic in front, traffic to the side, traffic to the
rear, and a guardrail/embankment on the left. The good news - it wasn't
raining.
For an instant, I'm dumbfounded because I've NEVER been in any predicament
remotely resembling this one. I'll carry the mental snap shot of the moment
before the bag got me for the rest of my life, I'll bet. White Saturn about
1 sec in front (braking), Haverty's delivery truck to my right front, red
Cadillac Fleetwood immediately to my right, tractor trailer hauling culverts
on a flat bed to my rear, concrete embankment and mangled guard rail to my
left. And then, instantly, my world is a pale "Tom Thumb" on translucent
brown.
What do you do?
First reaction - relax throttle while reaching quickly with the left hand to
remove bag (try turning Bible pages with touring gloves for full effect). I
couldn't feel the bag, much less grab it. Next, wipe my glove across my
helmet from side-to-side to move the bag... that doesn't work either - the
wind has got this bag glued to my helmet. Perhaps a full second has elapsed
now (probably a lot less, but time does funny things when you're in the
barrel) and I hear my first horn - the Cadillac to my right. I don't know
if he's honking at me, the truck ahead or the sun above. I assume me
because I'm probably swinging wide through the turn. So I pull the right
bar back to lean more (left hand still flailing at the helmet) and start
rear braking (right hand fully occupied steering). But there's a guard rail
over here somewhere and at this speed, it'll mangle my leg beyond repair.
So I tuck my knees in as hard as I can. Back to the helmet. I'm clawing at
the bag now, but it won't move at all and I can't see at all. That Saturn
ahead was braking, wasn't it? And this turn is getting sharper, I know, but
I have no idea where I am in the turn or where I'm headed? All this and
vertigo, too?
And then the tractor trailer behind me lets loose with airhorns and
airbrakes. Situation critical.
I don't remember consciously thinking of this - it was probably
desperation - but I jammed my thumb under the visor and ripped it up as hard
as I could. (Aside: A quick thank you to the Arai Corporation for making
the Signet/e visor removable by simply lifting up and popping out). The
visor popped out of the left side of the helmet and I was momentarily given
about 2 inches of clear sight - enough to see the guard rail and the
nearly-stopped Saturn in my path. I braked hard (stalling the engine in 4th
gear - remember, left hand occupied), sliding the rear a bit, ending up
neatly parked between the Saturn's rear fender (maybe a foot to spare) and
the guard rail. A foot or more, and I'd have been in the marbles. I don't
really want to think of how nasty that step off would've been. Immediately,
the shopping bag floatedly lazily from my visor to the ground. The tractor
stopped about 4 feet from my tail light. After a couple of seconds to
reorient myself to the planet (and extract the Corbin from my rectum), I
jammed the left side of the visor into the helmet enough so it wouldn't
flap, started up and headed off. Got the shakes about 1/2 mile down the
road.
So here I sit, some hours later, replaying the thing in my mind, shaking my
head in disbelief, staring at my left thumbnail neatly folded back to the
quick. There is absolutely NO way to have predicted that and, despite 25
years of riding experience (13 on the street), NOTHING that would have
adequately prepared me for it. And in a million years, it'll never happen
again. Anyone else have something this weird that almost killed you?
Moral(s) of the story. Ride ready. Expect anything. Survive to educate
the next guy.
Dave
98ST1100
> How's this for a sphincter tightener?
(snipped story relating to plastic bag wrapping around visor,
blinding rider, and narrow escape)
> Moral(s) of the story. Ride ready. Expect anything. Survive to educate
> the next guy.
Dave, glad you're okay. Your story illustrates that even
after managing and mitigating all risks that we *can*, there
are still other risks out there that can bite us. It puts the
lie to those who claim that any "emergency" situation is
at least partly the fault of the rider. Often? Yes? Always?
No.
This needs to be added to the on-street riding training
given to future UK riding gods....
Tim
Glad you're OK dave... that story really had me concerned reading it...
I'm adding this story to my already long list of reasons why I INSIST
on Paper over Plastic despite their indignance!
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Whatever it is, it's better in the wind.
> In rec.motorcycles Dave <david....@wcom.com> wrote:
> : You know those plastic grocery bags? Ever seen one being blown
> : around in traffic?
>
> Yep. Also sheets of cardboard, plywood, and flattened pop/beer cans.
>
> : I saw one a couple of lanes away. Didn't pay it much
> : heed (why should I?).
>
> I guess now you know why! I've never had one stick to my helmet like
> that, but I've had objects suddenly blow across my path and under my
> wheels.
I guess the question would be; if it is "a couple of lanes away," what
should you do about it? You might be able to move to the farthest
third of your lane, away from the object. If there is *another* lane
available that is farther from the object, you could change lanes
entirely. If you have a fairing, I suppose you could duck down
behind the screen entirely until you are past the object. All of
these might help avoid the object, but I don't think that any one
of them would ensure that something as light and clingy as those
thin plasic shopping bags won't suddenly blow up and hit you
as it did Dave.
Dave wrote:
> How's this for a sphincter tightener?
>
> I'm on loop 635E near US 75N in Dallas this morning, traffic moving at speed
> near a major interchange, so lots of cagers lane-changing and braking at the
> last minute. <snip for space> Anyone else have something this weird that
> almost killed you?
>
First off, glad you're OK! Geez, my heart was beating in my chest just reading
that!
Second, yes. Two instances come to mind:
1) I was riding down a nice country backroad near my home. I was downshifting to
slow for a nice tight "S"-turn. Just as I let the clutch out after shifting into
third, at the entrance to the turn, the bike accelerates hard. But I was off the
throttle! Turns out my throttle cable came loose and the throttle was snapped
wide open! Scared the doo-doo out of me! Once thru the turn I hit the kill
switch and shut it off. My first thought however was just to navigate it thru
the "S"-turn without hitting and trees. Its amazing how fast things can happen.
2) This wasn't deadly, but like your story, rather unlikely. I had just had
surgery on my big toes for ingrown toenails (painful) I was on my way back to
the Docs a couple days later. Beautiful spring day, about 80 degrees. I was
wearing a light windbreaker. While approaching a 2 way stop I saw a bee coming
at me. I tried to duck it but it hit me in my chest, when down my jacket, landed
in my seat and stung me right in the nuts! (If I'm lying, I'm flying) First
reaction: stand up and grab your balls, which I did killing the bee in the
process. I was able to get it stopped but I was really hurting! (as you can
imagine)
I really HATE Bees! :o)
Troy
Had one fly up my pants leg as a child and do me the same way... OUCH!
Dr. Speed: http://www.bayou.com/~speedym/
"My Child is an Honor Student at
The State Correctional Facility"
> Dave wrote:
>
> > How's this for a sphincter tightener?
> >
> > I'm on loop 635E near US 75N in Dallas this morning, traffic moving at speed
> > near a major interchange, so lots of cagers lane-changing and braking at the
> > last minute. <snip for space> Anyone else have something this weird that
> > almost killed you?
>
> Geez, my heart was beating in my chest just reading that!
Well, I hope so! If it weren't beating, that would mean
you're all done riding, wouldn't it?
<x-posted to uk.r.m also>
Whoa! Lucky escape, mate! I had a black plastic bin-bag wrap itself
round the fairing once and that was freaky enough.
Have another scotch, old boy.
--
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\"You don't believe me /
/ That the scenery \
\ Could be a cold-blooded killer"/
/ - The PotUSA \
--
Copyright Mark Johnson 1999, Fort Worth, Texas
>
>I'm adding this story to my already long list of reasons why I INSIST
>on Paper over Plastic despite their indignance!
But what about the trees?
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I would bet it would be easier to feel a tree that had gotten stuck to your
helmet. I won't venture to bet that removing it would be any less of a task
at 45mph.
Yeti
> Anyone else have something this weird that almost killed you?
A wet floppy cardboard box flipped up out of the bed of the pickup in
front of me doing 90 in the outside lane of a very busy M1. It wrapped
itself round my head in much the way you describe, but I managed to
scrabble it off with a fair bit less trouble than you.
At least you had some warning that the bag existed, and ought to have,
err, teleported it into a bin, or something.
Someone else I heard of got a black bag wrapped round his right
handlebar, it applied the front brake and locked the wheel. He didn't
get off lightly.
--
ap
Precisely. More paper bags = fewer trees blowing around and leaping
into your path.
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Windy wrote in message <38618e99...@news.u-net.com>...
>On Wed, 01 Dec 1999 14:45:33 -0600, Patrick Larkin Jr
><PatL...@BikeRider.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>I'm adding this story to my already long list of reasons why I INSIST
>>on Paper over Plastic despite their indignance!
>
>But what about the trees?
>
But what about landfills?
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> Bruce Clarke wrote:
>
> > In rec.motorcycles Dave <david....@wcom.com> wrote:
> > : You know those plastic grocery bags? Ever seen one being blown
> > : around in traffic?
> >
> > Yep. Also sheets of cardboard, plywood, and flattened pop/beer cans.
> >
> > : I saw one a couple of lanes away. Didn't pay it much
> > : heed (why should I?).
> >
> > I guess now you know why! I've never had one stick to my helmet like
> > that, but I've had objects suddenly blow across my path and under my
> > wheels.
>
> I guess the question would be; if it is "a couple of lanes away," what
> should you do about it? You might be able to move to the farthest
> third of your lane, away from the object. If there is *another* lane
> available that is farther from the object, you could change lanes
> entirely. If you have a fairing, I suppose you could duck down
> behind the screen entirely until you are past the object. All of
> these might help avoid the object, but I don't think that any one
> of them would ensure that something as light and clingy as those
> thin plasic shopping bags won't suddenly blow up and hit you
> as it did Dave.
I had one stick to the underside of the engine once for about ten
seconds, had to pull over to remove it. Nothing scary like having it on
the visor tho. Where the heck do all the plastic bags come from anyhow?
--
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I knew a guy that was removed from his bike by an errant tire/wheel.
It bounced over the wall seperating traffic in opposite directions
(it had come off a car traveling in the opposite direction). He was on the
ground
before he knew what happened.
--
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R1100RT (1997) 4 strokes choke
EX250 Ninja (1998)
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Dave <david....@wcom.com> wrote in message
news:Eaf14.150$OH2.28703@pm02news...
> How's this for a sphincter tightener?
>
ST Dave's bag ssory snipped...
>
>Precisely. More paper bags = fewer trees blowing around and leaping
>into your path.
<G>
Amazing!
Jason Merrick
In article <oxg14.72$U3.184...@news.bayou.com>, "Dr.
Friend of mine hit a sectional sofa on Mopac.
Charles
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Cornering at between 95mph and 110mph without being able to stop in the
clear view ahead....
Hmmm.
Go to the bottom of the class - at least it's more lively than the mortuary.
However, since you are still alive, I gather you learned from the event.
Come back to the middle pews again. <G>
Allan Kirk
New Zealand Motorcycle Safety Consultants
Website: http://www.megarider.com
>How's this for a sphincter tightener?
>
>I'm on loop 635E near US 75N in Dallas this morning, traffic moving at speed
>near a major interchange, so lots of cagers lane-changing and braking at the
snip
Had a bag wrap itself around my right mirror stalk once. Those
bastards are tenacious as hell to get off at highway speed. After
clawing at it for a good minute or so it flipped off my mirror and
onto my visor. Visions of horrors danced in my head as my Arai RX-7
has tear off posts installed on the visor. I managed to slide it off
to the side but the handle part of the bag was caught on the left
post. That damn post didn't want to let go and the buffetting was
amazing as the parachute of a bag was trying to turn my head to the
left. Finally on an exit ramp I managed to slow down and flick the bag
off the visor's post.
Dave,
Glad to here you made it out of there and didn't become a satistic!
When people start telling me "how dangerous" motorcycles are, I tell
the riding one is 99% skill and 1% someone from above is watching out
for you. This is one of those that while most of what you were doing
trying to extract the bag was skill, you made it out by the 1% part!
This last Saturday, while riding to the Long Beach Motorcycle show, I
was at the tailend of three bikes. The lead bike took a wrong off-ramp
and since the ramp had lanes that went back on to the freeway, we
stayed on it. Two cages couldn't merge and so they both stopped dead
with several cages between them and us, I had plenty of room to stop.
Little to my knownledge, a cage came skidding up behind me, I heard it,
but I thought it was one of the bikes in front of me..saw smoke from
one of his tires, which grabbed my attention. When we started going
again I looked behind me to see all of this smoke coming from the
cage's tires behind me. It gave me an uneasy feeling, but I didn't
think that much more of it until later, when the two guys I rode with
told me that that cage missed me by just a few inches! That 1% saved
me...again!
Ride safe out there folks...they're out to get you!
--
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1985 V45 Sabre
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Before you buy.
'99 YZF R6L
Dave wrote in message ...
Not bad, I had a near miss with a rugby ball kicked onto the road in
front of me whilst I was doing around 60 MPH. Trying to judge the random
trajectory of a bouncing rugby ball whilst hemmed in on both sides by
traffic wasn't pleasent.
Needless to say, the ball homed in on my front wheel like a Sidewinder
missile :-( but I mangaed to brake and avoid it.
Like you say, you never can tell out there ....
Cheers,
Paul.
"Dr. Speed" wrote:
I tried to duck it but it hit me in my chest, when down my jacket,
> landed
> > in my seat and stung me right in the nuts! (If I'm lying, I'm flying)
> First
> > reaction: stand up and grab your balls, which I did killing the bee in the
> > process. I was able to get it stopped but I was really hurting! (as you
> can
> > imagine)
> >
> > I really HATE Bees! :o)
>
> Had one fly up my pants leg as a child and do me the same way... OUCH!
I have this image of the two of you standing there, grabbing your nuts hard and
bashing yourself on the balls, yelling OW OW OW.
Very funny.
--
riverman
.........................
I think, therefore I thwim;
Carpe ropum.
rbp #2
Hatchman
99 ZX6E
Glad you're still here to pass the story on, could have been bad. Also
glad to see the detail with which you described your surroundings, it shows
you were paying attention and that is probably what saved your ass!
A local MSF instructor was riding to a party one evening a few years ago
with his visor up when he was blinded and felt a sensation like having a
knit hat pulled over his face, with a sharp pain over each eye.
Fortunately he wasn't moving too fast and was able to stop without incident
only to remove a bat from his face that was trying desperately to hang on.
Some time after that he nailed a Canadian swamp donkey (aka Moose) at
highway speeds and wasn't so lucky. 3 month coma followed by an 8 year
hiatus from riding.
Later,
Todd Trask
Yeti
I ducked, but it did dent the metal.
Bob
On Wed, 01 Dec 1999 20:03:48 GMT, "Dave" <david....@wcom.com>
wrote:
>How's this for a sphincter tightener?
>
>I'm on loop 635E near US 75N in Dallas this morning, traffic moving at speed
>near a major interchange, so lots of cagers lane-changing and braking at the
I think I just wet myself. Damn, that's frightening. Glad you're alive
and okay!
Nate
Minneapolis
Yet another good reason for those brake guards on the R1100GS.
> Saw one of those supermarket bags floating aimlessly in the eddys just the
> other day and decided that they must be avoided at all cost.
And on a lighter, more or less housekeeping kind of note - never let those
bags hit your pipes. Not only are they chrome-killers, but they smell REAL
BAD.
Mike G.
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I see those idiot grocery bags frequently on the freeways. Wish there
was some way to get rid of them.
Dave wrote:
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'97 Triumph Thunderbird
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is STILL voting for an evil. Vote Libertarian. You'll be glad you did.
>
>I think I just wet myself.
You'll do more than that if I get hold of ya!
>Damn, that's frightening.
You don't even begin to know the meaning of the word ....
yet!
>Glad you're alive
>and okay!
Which is more than you'll be if you don't TRIM YER BLOODY
POSTS!
*ahem*
Carry on chaps.
Let 'em get their own shopping bags.
--
Copyright Mark Johnson 1999, Fort Worth, Texas
onethumb at airmail dot net
Of the plate in your head?
Eh? You got a plate in your head or something?
Steve 65
I got hit in the visor by an orange golf ball that
sailed over the trees by the side of the road and
bounced on the pavement in front of me.
Man, that was loud.
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information at half-speed. -- Rush, "Vital Signs"
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Good One.
Phyloe
>
Yea, the classic, " . . it hurts when I do this . . "
Phyloe
> Windy wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 01 Dec 1999 14:45:33 -0600, Patrick Larkin Jr
> > <PatL...@BikeRider.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >I'm adding this story to my already long list of reasons why I INSIST
> > >on Paper over Plastic despite their indignance!
> >
> > But what about the trees?
>
> Precisely. More paper bags = fewer trees blowing around and leaping
> into your path.
Fewer trees = fewer leaves in the road.
--
Brian McLaughlin AP #1 NGI #7 BMoZ #[classified]
TZ250E (1993-96) 2 strokes smoke
R1100RT (1997) 4 strokes choke
EX250 Ninja (1998)
> This last Saturday, while riding to the Long Beach Motorcycle show, I
> was at the tailend of three bikes. The lead bike took a wrong off-ramp
> and since the ramp had lanes that went back on to the freeway, we
> stayed on it. Two cages couldn't merge and so they both stopped dead
> with several cages between them and us, I had plenty of room to stop.
> Little to my knownledge, a cage came skidding up behind me, I heard it,
> but I thought it was one of the bikes in front of me..saw smoke from
> one of his tires, which grabbed my attention. When we started going
> again I looked behind me to see all of this smoke coming from the
> cage's tires behind me. It gave me an uneasy feeling, but I didn't
> think that much more of it until later, when the two guys I rode with
> told me that that cage missed me by just a few inches! That 1% saved
> me...again!
The worst sound while on a motorcycle has to be the sound of skiding tires.....
....from behind you.
riverman wrote:
> "Dr. Speed" wrote:
>
> I tried to duck it but it hit me in my chest, when down my jacket,
>
> > landed
> > > in my seat and stung me right in the nuts! (If I'm lying, I'm flying)
> > First
> > > reaction: stand up and grab your balls, which I did killing the bee in the
> > > process. I was able to get it stopped but I was really hurting! (as you
> > can
> > > imagine)
> > >
> > > I really HATE Bees! :o)
> >
> > Had one fly up my pants leg as a child and do me the same way... OUCH!
>
> I have this image of the two of you standing there, grabbing your nuts hard and
> bashing yourself on the balls, yelling OW OW OW.
I'm sure the person driving past at the time was prolly wondering what kind of
pervert I was. :o)
Troy
On Thu, 02 Dec 1999 12:32:40 -0600, Onethumb <Pulg...@airmail.net>
wrote:
>> I ducked, but it did dent the metal.
One time my cat Wanda was playing with one of those plastic grocery bags. Hi
managed to get his head though the one of the "handles" on the bag, and
continued to scootch his body through until the handle of the bag was around
his waist. His rear end was too big for him to crawl completely through.
Well, he then decided he was done playing with the bag, so he began to walk
off, only to have the plastic bag that was now firmly wrapped around his
rear end, follow behind him making scary (to a cat) crinkling noises. This
frightened my cat which caused him to run away, which caused the bag to
become more entangled in his rear anatomy, and make more scary noises, which
caused Wanda to run even faster... Within seconds the cat was running and
crashing around my apartment, bag still firmly attached to his ass, at such
a velocity that I believed that he was going to murder himself. He was
literally crashing into walls and furniture trying to get away from that
bag. The bedlam finally concluded when the bag became snared on a piece of
furniture, bringing the cat to a sudden halt. I was then able to run over
and free the cat from the bag. Just goes to show how dangerous those plastic
bags can be, I guess.
>Windy wrote:
>> But what about the trees?
>
>Let 'em get their own shopping bags.
Pah!
They get their local branch to deliver.
I'd've thought you'd have twigged that by now!
>how's this?
I'll smack your legs for you, y'know?
And Bama Brian needn't think he's got away with it either!
ROFLMAOPIP. ow. So you let the cat out of the bag, did you?
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but I will defend to the death my right to disagree."
> Any idea how to get the melted plastic off your pipes?
> Just happened to me this weekend. Thanks, Joe
I wound up using Methylene Chloride (dichloromethane) - a glue/solvent for
assembling ABS/butyrate and thermoplastic toys/models, available from your
local hobby shop or scientific chemical supply (warning: cancer suspect).
Followed with Xylene (Home Depot paint department) to remove the remaining
softened plastic and glaze/haze.
Test whatever you wind up using on a loose bag (does it melt) and an
unseen spot of the chrome (does it fog/haze/craze).
Finally, liberal use of chrome polish (all I had was Simichrome).
Even though I was very careful, it did wind up scratching the chrome
slightly on the vertical pipes in front of the cylinders. Probably from
rubbing in dirt stuck under the melted plastic.
All this was on a borrowed '98 Honda Rebel. Hopefully that helps describe
the chrome quality in the first place and my desire to return the pipes to
like-new condition for my friend.
Good luck.
--
Matt
95 VFR750F
Riotgear <mrt...@GSXRpacbell.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> Windy wrote in message <38618e99...@news.u-net.com>...
> >On Wed, 01 Dec 1999 14:45:33 -0600, Patrick Larkin Jr
> ><PatL...@BikeRider.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>I'm adding this story to my already long list of reasons why I INSIST
> >>on Paper over Plastic despite their indignance!
> >
> >But what about the trees?
> >
>
> But what about landfills?
>
>
> --
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> '99 DR650SEX
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Brian McLaughlin <tzr...@execpc.com> wrote in message
news:3846dfb4$0$96...@news.execpc.com...
J T wrote:
> I had a cat do the same thing with a strip of flytape. It happened
> to fall right as he walked under it.
That happened to me once. I was changing a verrrrrrrry full fly stip in the nasty
kitchen of a restaurant I worked in. The strip wrapped around my head. I didnt
run around quite as much, but it wasn't fun....... with all those big-ass flies
and strip glue stuck in my hair.
BHinSD wrote:
> Glad to here you made it out of there and didn't become a satistic!
I wonder exactly what percentage of riders fail to become statistics.
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NZMSC <nzm...@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message
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>
> motomij (jim) wrote
> >Let me just say that depending on which country you live in, either right
> or
> >left hand turns on mountain roads will mostly blind turns where you
cannot
> >see ahead for any distance. Tell me, do you ALWAYS follow your own
advice?
>
> Yes.
>
> I learnt early that the fastest road riders are not those that go fastest
> through the turn but those that are fastest OUT of the turn.
>
> It's no use going into or partway through a blind fast only to crash into
> something halfway around the corner.
>
> Here in New Zealand, where the roads are really winding and where you may
> have sheep, cattle, farmers on four wheelers, rocks fallen from cliffs,
and
> heaven knows what else around corners, you don't last long unless you ride
> to the Vanishing Point.
>
> Allan Kirk
> New Zealand Motorcycle Safety Consultants
> Website: http://www.megarider.com
>
>
> This is a bit of a stretch as far as being on subject:
>
>One time my cat Wanda was playing with one of those plastic grocery bags. Hi
>managed to get his head though the one of the "handles" on the bag, and
>continued to scootch his body through until the handle of the bag was around
>his waist. His rear end was too big for him to crawl completely through.
>Well, he then decided he was done playing with the bag, so he began to walk
>off, only to have the plastic bag that was now firmly wrapped around his
>rear end, follow behind him making scary (to a cat) crinkling noises. This
>frightened my cat which caused him to run away, which caused the bag to
>become more entangled in his rear anatomy, and make more scary noises, which
>caused Wanda to run even faster... Within seconds the cat was running and
>crashing around my apartment, bag still firmly attached to his ass, at such
>a velocity that I believed that he was going to murder himself. He was
>literally crashing into walls and furniture trying to get away from that
>bag. The bedlam finally concluded when the bag became snared on a piece of
>furniture, bringing the cat to a sudden halt. I was then able to run over
>and free the cat from the bag. Just goes to show how dangerous those plastic
>bags can be, I guess.
Or how retarded some cats can be.
Charles
(owns three cats, one who's a definite tardo)
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Back to riding and bags, tho, I've seen those things floating around
several times and wondered what would happen if it decided to wrap
itself around my helmet. There's really not much you can do to
avoid them except hope it doesn't dart into your path. From now on,
tho, I think I'll get a hand ready when I see one coming.
Jamie
>In article <Eaf14.150$OH2.28703@pm02news>,
> "Dave" <david....@wcom.com> wrote:
>>
>> So here I sit, some hours later, replaying the thing in my mind,
>shaking my
>> head in disbelief, staring at my left thumbnail neatly folded back to
>the
>> quick. There is absolutely NO way to have predicted that and,
>despite 25
>> years of riding experience (13 on the street), NOTHING that would have
>> adequately prepared me for it. And in a million years, it'll never
>happen
>> again. Anyone else have something this weird that almost killed you?
>>
>
>Dave,
>
>Glad to here you made it out of there and didn't become a satistic!
>
>When people start telling me "how dangerous" motorcycles are, I tell
>the riding one is 99% skill and 1% someone from above is watching out
>for you. This is one of those that while most of what you were doing
>trying to extract the bag was skill, you made it out by the 1% part!
Who? DPS? I *knew* they were using that aerial radar!
Charles
>In article <825gse$nbn$1...@newsource.ihug.co.nz>, "Murray Owen"
><owe...@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
>
>> Saw one of those supermarket bags floating aimlessly in the eddys just the
>> other day and decided that they must be avoided at all cost.
>
>And on a lighter, more or less housekeeping kind of note - never let those
>bags hit your pipes. Not only are they chrome-killers, but they smell REAL
>BAD.
>
>Mike G.
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Yeah, but they kinda give you a buzz...
Charles
(maybe it's just the fumes-should prolly open the garage)
EZ-Off oven cleaner. Get your pipes hot, spray it on... wipe it off the
next morning. Works amazingly well.
-Mike-
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20. Rattle off your order with a determined air. If they ask if you
would like drinks with that, panic and become disoriented.
Windy,
Behave yourself!
I am very grateful to Nate. That was the first chance I had to read the
whole post, as the original didn't show on my server.
So, thank you, Nate.
Oh, and Windy, the subject title was just a joke... Really....!
Allan Kirk
>Now that is the most frightening story I've ever read! I'm really glad you
>made it through OK
>
>I see those idiot grocery bags frequently on the freeways. Wish there
>was some way to get rid of them.
EDUCATION!!! We need smart grocery bags not idiot ones.
> The worst sound while on a motorcycle has to be the sound of skiding tires.....
>
> ....from behind you.
Been there and done that. Lessee. Was about 1979. I was sitting in a line
of traffic stopped for a light on a four-lane through road around here called
Palatine Road. You Bay area types think Foothills Expressway. Friend on
the back. We're on a semi-seriously modified Norton 850 Commando Interstate.
(Dunstall kit, all-metal on-off clutch with double springs, other goodies).
From behind comes the sound of serious throw-out-the-hooks-lock-em-up cager
brakes. I always leave a car length or so in front of me when stopped in
traffic, and stop in the tire track closest to get-my-ass-out-of-here. When
hearing the brakes way behind, I got some Rs and shot out alongside the car
in front of me, just as the wham-wham-Wham-WHAM-WHAM! sequence started behind
us.
Fellow in the pickup truck behind me pulled up as far as he could and we all
waited to see where it would end.
Well, the pickup truck behind me was the last guy *not* to get hit. Missed
him by inches.
Total was 10 cars not including the guy who was surfing the expressway at 70
or so and came over the hill not paying attention and not expecting stopped
traffic.
I and the pillion occupant were unhurt. The pickup fellow said Thanks. One
guy in the car next to us said "that guy's insurance company just bought a
whole junkyard."
My passenger shouted "And a cigar to the man in the last car!"
You would have to know him.
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>
>Windy,
>
>Behave yourself!
Oh, *that'll* be a first!
<snip>
>Oh, and Windy, the subject title was just a joke... Really....!
You think? ;o)
No. You wouldnt have.
Tell us what you learn from this
[This should be funny]
>EDUCATION!!! We need smart grocery bags not idiot ones.
That's what the GBSF course is all about.
Jeff
> In rec.motorcycles Joe <jw...@swbell.net> wrote:
> : Any idea how to get the melted plastic off your pipes?
> : Just happened to me this weekend. Thanks, Joe
>
> EZ-Off oven cleaner. Get your pipes hot, spray it on... wipe it off the
> next morning. Works amazingly well.
>
> -Mike-
That has to be the 'Tip Of The Year'.
Thanks.
[Jaw dropped in abject amazement]
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so it may be so. - Jimmy Buffett, "Defying Gravity"
Windy wrote:
>
> And Bama Brian needn't think he's got away with it either!
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'99 Victory V92C
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>Wearing a grocery bag on my head would allow me to drive like everyone else in
>West Wales.
It would also improve your appearance.
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I don't care if the light *is* green, look both ways.
Raccoons and possums don't, and look what happens to them.
Thom Irwin
Etz wrote:
> J T wrote:
>
> > I had a cat do the same thing with a strip of flytape. It happened
> > to fall right as he walked under it.
>
> That happened to me once. I was changing a verrrrrrrry full fly stip in the nasty
> kitchen of a restaurant I worked in. The strip wrapped around my head. I didnt
> run around quite as much, but it wasn't fun....... with all those big-ass flies
> and strip glue stuck in my hair.
Eeeeeeeeuuuuuuuu! Nasty! ;op
Troy
This is true... but I'm pretty handy with a spraycan. An alternative method
I used to use before I discovered oven cleaner was Simichrome paste and
a 7" Black&Decker grinder with a lambswool buffing disk. Same results
but the oven cleaner is quite a bit less work.
-Mike-
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12. Sing the order to the tune of your favorite song from White Zombie's
"Astro Creep 2000" CD.
Were they that big before or after the bee stung? :)
>
> Amazing!
>
> Jason Merrick
>
> In article <oxg14.72$U3.184...@news.bayou.com>, "Dr.
> Speed" <Spam...@Byte.Me.Org> wrote:
> >"Troy D. Hilton" <hi...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> >news:38458D25...@ix.netcom.com...
> >>
> >> 2) This wasn't deadly, but like your story, rather unlikely. I had just
> >had
> >> surgery on my big toes for ingrown toenails (painful) I was on my way back
> >to
> >> the Docs a couple days later. Beautiful spring day, about 80 degrees. I
> >was
> >> wearing a light windbreaker. While approaching a 2 way stop I saw a bee
> >coming
> >> at me. I tried to duck it but it hit me in my chest, when down my jacket,
> >landed
> >> in my seat and stung me right in the nuts! (If I'm lying, I'm flying)
> >First
> >> reaction: stand up and grab your balls, which I did killing the bee in the
> >> process. I was able to get it stopped but I was really hurting! (as you
> >can
> >> imagine)
> >>
> >> I really HATE Bees! :o)
> >
> >Had one fly up my pants leg as a child and do me the same way... OUCH!
> >
> >Dr. Speed: http://www.bayou.com/~speedym/
> >
> >"My Child is an Honor Student at
> >The State Correctional Facility"
> >
> >
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The pinnacle of open systems is: when moving from vendor to vendor, the
design flaws stay the same.
'82 GL1100i
<SIGTERM>
Ooooh, I wish I'd said that...
Nate
Minneapolis
But, but, but.....
Poking the girl next to me is absolutly my favorite part.
Lloyd
LT250R
1200 Bandit
LOReed at email dot msn dot com
Hi,
> about 1/2mi from a grain elevator when a soon to be deceased pigon
> (fat from wheat) leaves the ground to commit suicide on my
> face...THIS REALLLLLYYY SUCKS!!!
Once I could avoid exactly this. The pigeons sat next to a corn field,
when I came by. Almost all of them crossed the street head-high, and I
could only escape them by ducking quickly. Is this natural animal
behavior, or are these trained killer pigeons?
regards
Henning
MZ ETZ 250
Honda CB 550 Four
BWaM#2
They're much less likely to be swept up in the wake of a car and wrap around
your helmet. I bet it would be a heck of a lot more painful though.
Well.....
Ok, just this once, since you've put 150,000 miles under your tyres and a
little complacency is understandable (but not advisable <G>), we'll let you
come out of the corner, take off the Dunce cap, and sit in the middle of the
class again.
But no poking the girl next to you!
Allan Kirk
>Once I could avoid exactly this. The pigeons sat next to a corn field,
>when I came by. Almost all of them crossed the street head-high, and I
>could only escape them by ducking quickly. Is this natural animal
>behavior, or are these trained killer pigeons?
That information is classified.
Department of Pigeon Affairs
Washington, D.C.
>Shriek!
Shouldn't your nick be Banshee Brian?
>Timberwoof wrote:
>>
>--SNIP FOR WINDY__
That's *so* sweet.
--
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95 VFR750F
motomij (jim) <mot...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:828vdr$i0f$1...@nntp4.atl.mindspring.net...
>
> I learned that it's better to remain on the throttle when an object
presents
> itself in your path. It makes the fron end lighter and therefore it has a
> better chance of clearing. Are you laughing yet?;)
> jim
>> >>
>> >>I'm adding this story to my already long list of reasons why I INSIST
>> >>on Paper over Plastic despite their indignance!
>> >
>> >But what about the trees?
>> >
>>
>> But what about landfills?
>>
>Now this is getting just plain silly. You do not need to worry about
>landfills. They are never built on highways and never blow onto them.
Perhaps, but they do attract seagulls, thus increasing the
likelihood of bird strike.
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http://www.cyberhighway.net/~wahsatch
>Recently "Kirby Lucich" <oxbow_...@email.msn.com> honored
>rec.motorcycles with:
>>
>>Now this is getting just plain silly. You do not need to worry about
>>landfills. They are never built on highways and never blow onto them.
>
>Perhaps, but they do attract seagulls, thus increasing the
>likelihood of bird strike.
But doen't that mean the seagulls just sit around doing
bugger all?
(Except the black legged ones of course).
> Actually that makes sense to me. It's all a matter of physics. I couldn't
> explain it, but it has something to do with maintaining a relative constant
> load on the bike's suspension, forward motion and such... there's someone
> out there that could probably explain this better than myself. I'm not
> about to go running over a bunch of stuff in the road to find out though.
> The largest object I've ever run over so far is a piece of 2x4... hopefully
> I won't encounter anything bigger than that, but they always say to expect
> the unexpected, you know. :)
I ran over a 5" high pile of heavy chain (2" links?) while changing
lanes at about 90 mph the other day. I waited a whole second for
catastrophic tire decompression. When it never happened, I relaxed my
sphincter.
wahsatch <wahs...@cyberhighway.net> wrote in message
<snipped for meself>
> Perhaps, but they do attract seagulls, thus increasing the
> likelihood of bird strike.
> --
> Al Brennan FLTRI GR650 6T
> http://www.cyberhighway.net/~wahsatch
AAARRRGGGHHH!!!! don't mention bird strikes...damn birds oughter be a law.
mumblemumblefriggin damn birds put the lil' buggers on a grill. keith,S
slave to 2 parrots
Which part did you say was your favourite to poke the girl with?
Allan Kirk
>I relaxed my sphincter.
...and started posting...
Windy wrote:
> On Fri, 03 Dec 1999 11:01:24 -0800, Bama Brian
> <bamaNO...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> >Shriek!
>
> Shouldn't your nick be Banshee Brian?
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