Laid 'er down, sorta
Michael R. Kesti
Goldwing Aspencade from our northern California home up the California
and Oregon coasts, visiting Mt. St. Helens and Mt. Ranier, then friends
in Idaho and on across Wyoming, South Dakota, Minnesota, Wisconsin, and
into Michigan's upper peninsula to meet up with my kids at my parent's
home. After a few days in the U.P. we rode up to Thunder Bay, Ontario
and across Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and to Edmonton, Alberta, then down
through Jasper and Banff national parks. We re-entered the states at
Glacier National Park. It's been a great trip with only a few difficulties.
Yesterday we rode the perimeter of the Sawtooth mountains and intended
to spend the night in Haily, Idaho. From there we planned to ride on to
Elko, Nevada and finally return to our home the following day. We got
to Ketchum, Idaho in the early evening and traffic in this small but
busy town was stop-and-go. At the last traffic light in town I was
following a pickup truck that braked to stop for a red light. As I
braked the wheels locked up for in apparent reason. I released the
brakes to regain traction but, seeing the distance to the truck getting
too short, I had no choice but to brake again. The front wheel folded
to the left and the bike fell to the right. The front wheel went under
the truck's bumper and the headlight hit the bumper shattering into a
great many pieces. It turned out that the problem was a motor oil slick
in the lane, perhaps 40 feet long! Nobody has been able to explain how
this came to be but there it was.
After the police, EMT, and fire department got done with us we found that
we had suffered only a few bumps and scrapes. A tow truck operator brought
the bike and trailer to a local shop and then helped us find a room for
the night. Today the shop decided that the front end suffered little
or no damage and a test ride confirms that the bike is stable at speed.
We plan to spend another night here in Ketchum and then on to Elko and
home, sans headlight.
So, our precious 'wing got laid down but not deliberately. As it turns
out is was a very good thing that the fall occurred as it did as the
headlight, rather then the wheel and forks, took the force of the
collision and sacrificed itself leaving the bike ridable. Further,
without the truck to stop us, I believe that we would likely have not
been able to stop and would have entered the intersection to mix it up
with cross traffic.
I'm not glad that this happened but it could have been a whole lot worse
and could have happened in a much less pleasant place.
Oh, and I don't at all buy into the "had to lay 'er down" thing but, in
this case, it did work out well!
--
========================================================================
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| two, one and one make one."
mrkesti at comcast dot net | - The Who, Bargain
Gary Walker
Personally, I think you can probably blame lax vehicle
inspection requirements and fly-by-night trucking com-
panies for your oil slick. Of course, I know nothing of
your local environment, but I see way to many derelict
vehicles here in Texas that are leaking fluids.
Sometimes this is vital fluid leakage, sometimes it's fluid
carried in the rear of trucks, used for roofing. construc-
tion etc. Unfortunately, when most of these fluids are
deposited on the roadway, they do little to enhance the
traction.
However, in my experiences, I've *usually* been able
to see/anticipate such dangers, and avoid them. Also,
in the case of an oil slick, they've *usually* been con-
centrated to a specific portion of the traffic lane.
Sorry, for your experience. Be cautious!!
Thanks,
Gary
"Michael R. Kesti" <mrk...@nospam.net> wrote in message
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XS11E
> Oh, and I don't at all buy into the "had to lay 'er down" thing but, in
> this case, it did work out well!
There's an exception to every rule (including this one)!
Andrew
It could have been much worse as you pointed out.
--
Andrew
00 Speed Triple
00 Daytona
Michael R. Kesti
<deletia>
>Sometimes this is vital fluid leakage, sometimes it's fluid
>carried in the rear of trucks, used for roofing. construc-
>tion etc.
There is road construction in the area and, when I asked
the local chief of police from where he thought the oil may
have come he suggested that a construction vehicle may have
been the culprit.
> Unfortunately, when most of these fluids are
>deposited on the roadway, they do little to enhance the
>traction.
Yeah, huh? ;-)
<snipette>
>Sorry, for your experience. Be cautious!!
I like to think of myself as very cautious, especially when the wife
is aboard, but this one caught me none the less!
Bryan
"Michael R. Kesti" <mrk...@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> My wife and I set out 5 weeks ago on our summer trip, riding our '87
Who do you think you are, George Bush,or French? hehe. 5 weeks! I am soooo
jealous.
Glad to hear you are ok.
Bryan
Rayvan
>and could have happened in a much less pleasant place.
What a pisser! Glad you're okay!
That was a close one that could have been a lot worse.
I've got to wonder though if the trailer were not part of the "package"
if you would have hit the truck at all. I'm seeing two factors WRT the
trailer:
1) The additional weight of the trailer pushed you along more so
than if the bike were solo, and
2) The trailer kept you 'in the center' of the lane so you couldn't
have
avoided the oil slick even if you wanted to (had you seen it ahead of
time).
Just a thought....
Calgary
<mrk...@nospam.net> wrote:
>So, our precious 'wing got laid down but not deliberately. As it turns
>out is was a very good thing that the fall occurred as it did as the
>headlight, rather then the wheel and forks, took the force of the
>collision and sacrificed itself leaving the bike ridable. Further,
>without the truck to stop us, I believe that we would likely have not
>been able to stop and would have entered the intersection to mix it up
>with cross traffic.
>
>I'm not glad that this happened but it could have been a whole lot worse
>and could have happened in a much less pleasant place.
Ride enough miles and the road gremlins will eventually try to grab
you. I am glad in this case the damage was minor and the injuries more
discomfort than breaking bones.
Ride safe
--
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wrote:
The difference here is he did not lay er down to avoid a crash.
Bob Mann
You mean everyone doesn't get 6 weeks?
--
Bob Mann
"Without pain there is no gain.
Without pain there is no glory"
-Geoff Capes
XS11E
> On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 15:46:55 -0700, XS11E <xs1...@SPAMyahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>"Michael R. Kesti" <mrk...@nospam.net> wrote in:
>>
>>> Oh, and I don't at all buy into the "had to lay 'er down" thing but, in
>>> this case, it did work out well!
>>
>>There's an exception to every rule (including this one)!
>>
>
> The difference here is he did not lay er down to avoid a crash.
Yeah, he did, the difference is that it wasn't intentional! <G>
Jack Hunt
wrote:
>2) The trailer kept you 'in the center' of the lane so you couldn't
>have
>avoided the oil slick even if you wanted to (had you seen it ahead of
>time).
My trailer, that I pull very rarely, is not much wider than the bike
and I can still stay firmly in either wheel track.
The only time I ever felt it pushing me was down a very steep and wet
lawn.
--
Jack
Calgary
wrote:
Unless I miss read it, he got in the slick stuff, couldn't find
traction, the front wheel locked up and slid out from under him and he
crashed. Taking a lower angle of contact minimized the damage but it
crashed none the less.
Larry xlax Lovisone
Larry xlax Lovisone
> So, our precious 'wing got laid down but not deliberately.
Hey Mike... my condolences to you and your wife... try one of those new fangel
Wangs with the ability to back up... so you can through the whole mess into
reverse...
Larry L
94 RC45 #2
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Yank and bank your brains loose...
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Michael R. Kesti
>What a pisser! Glad you're okay!
Thanks.
>That was a close one that could have been a lot worse.
>
>I've got to wonder though if the trailer were not part of the "package"
>if you would have hit the truck at all. I'm seeing two factors WRT the
>trailer:
>
>1) The additional weight of the trailer pushed you along more so
>than if the bike were solo, and
I honestly don't think that this was a factor as there was so much oil.
Really, I do wish you could have seen it. I have a mud flap on the front
fender and it was wet with oil that got kicked up off the tire after only
about 8 feet of travel!
>2) The trailer kept you 'in the center' of the lane so you couldn't
>have
>avoided the oil slick even if you wanted to (had you seen it ahead of
>time).
I tend to keep to the lane center in stop-and-go anyway as this allows me
wobble room when riding at just above duck-step speed.
>Just a thought....
Or two. Thanks again.
Michael R. Kesti
>On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 17:53:32 -0600, "Bryan"
><nestleN...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Michael R. Kesti" <mrk...@nospam.net> wrote in message
>>news:42FA7583...@nospam.net...
>>> My wife and I set out 5 weeks ago on our summer trip, riding our '87
>>
>>
>>Who do you think you are, George Bush,or French? hehe. 5 weeks! I am soooo
>>jealous.
>
>You mean everyone doesn't get 6 weeks?
It'll be 5 weeks and 4 days this trip, unless another incident extends
the time it will take us to ge home. It'll could be another 2 weeks
before I go back to work, too. I'm a software engineering contractor,
your see, and I don't always have a gig!
Bryan
You mean everyone doesn't get 6 weeks?
>
> It'll be 5 weeks and 4 days this trip, unless another incident extends
> the time it will take us to ge home. It'll could be another 2 weeks
> before I go back to work, too. I'm a software engineering contractor,
> your see, and I don't always have a gig!
>
> --
> ========================================================================
> Michael Kesti | "And like, one and one don't make
> | two, one and one make one."
> mrkesti at comcast dot net | - The Who, Bargain
I am still jealous, me the corporate wage slave.
I admire your self reliance.
But can I ask a question? What is the diff between the Wing/trialer and a
caddy convertible? Just kidding.
Bryan
Jack Hunt
<nestleN...@comcast.net> wrote:
>What is the diff between the Wing/trialer and a
>caddy convertible?
I've never seen a wing trialer. Most trials bikes are a lot lighter
than that.
If you're talking about a *trailer*, that's a whole different animal.
You can pull a single pin and make the Wing/trailer into a nice twisty
rider.
If you listen closely to the caddy convertible, you can hear it rust,
and once you drive it off the dealer's lot, you can also hear the
retail value plummet. It makes a loud sucking sound.
I work with a guy who bought a new Caddy. It stayed at the dealer
more than it stayed in his garage. He paid around $35k for it. After
3 years he was fed up with the constant breakdowns and went to trade
it in. They offered him $7200 for it.
--
Jack
Gary Walker
"Larry xlax Lovisone" <nett...@combogusinfocast.net> wrote in message
news:StudnZHZgpo...@comcast.com...
>
> > So, our precious 'wing got laid down but not deliberately.
>
> Hey Mike... my condolences to you and your wife... try one of those new
fangel
> Wangs with the ability to back up... so you can through the whole mess
into
> reverse...
>
Don't know too much about that, but the situation sounds
like a great test bed for the ABS addition.
Gary
TomO
>
>
> I honestly don't think that this was a factor as there was so much oil.
> Really, I do wish you could have seen it. I have a mud flap on the front
> fender and it was wet with oil that got kicked up off the tire after only
> about 8 feet of travel!
>
>
My speculation, given that much oil in one spot, would be that a
construction vehicle blew out a hydraulic hose or something along those
lines. I still remember the huge mess when my little Ford tractor blew
one of those. I smelled funnier than usual for a week
Any loaders or Bobcats sitting nearby?
--
TomO
Uncle Pirate
news:oZzKe.48$_T5....@news.uswest.net:
Huh, hydraulic fluid is nothing. Try swimming in crude.
I was working at a power plant where we burned crude oil (early 70s)
and the heating element down in the tank that keeps the oil warm enough
to flow went out. Being low man on the totem pole, I was chosen to be
lowered into the tank to change out the heating element. I was dressed
in rubber boots almost to my knees and assured that the oil was not
that deep. Upon settling on the floor of the tank, my boots
immediately filled with crude oil. I didn't worry about it too much,
just proceded to do the job I had come for and change out the heater.
All done so now to get out of the tank. After handling the heater, my
hands were all covered with oil so I could not hold the rope to pull
myself back up; also, even if I could hang on, I'm not sure I could
have lifted myself AND the boots full of oil. So, I tied a loop in the
rope, stood in it and three good strong coworkers begin to pull me up
but with boots full of oil and hands covered with oil, a slip was in
the picture for a flat on the back landing in somewhat over 2' of crude
oil. Covered head to toe. Have you ever smelled crude oil?
--
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Tularosa Basin Coordinator, ABATE of NM; AMA#758681; COBB; RCOS#7
Somewhat bent '94 1500 Vulcan.
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Gary Walker
"Uncle Pirate" <Uncle...@MotorcycleFun.org> wrote in message
news:Xns96AEEF806D...@216.234.192.142...
Like most things from the 70's, those events would not
occur as you described today. Isn't skin exposure to
oil, consistently, very dangerous?
Gary
High Plains Thumper
news:1123715999.1...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
> I've got to wonder though if the trailer were not part of
> the "package"
>
> if you would have hit the truck at all. I'm seeing two
> factors WRT the trailer:
>
> 1) The additional weight of the trailer pushed you along
> more so than if the bike were solo, and
>
> 2) The trailer kept you 'in the center' of the lane so you
> couldn't have
> avoided the oil slick even if you wanted to (had you seen
> it ahead of time).
>
> Just a thought....
If the bike had been in a trailer (like some I see going up
and down I-40) instead of pulling a trailer, accident wouldn't
have happened.
Jest a thought.... :)
--
HPT
Jack Hunt
<mrk...@nospam.net> wrote:
>there was so much oil.
>Really, I do wish you could have seen it. I have a mud flap on the front
>fender and it was wet with oil that got kicked up off the tire after only
>about 8 feet of travel!
This morning as I was taking my step son to school, we noticed a long
trail of oil starting at the parking lot of a convenience store. We
both remarked about how much oil somebody was dumping and how they
couldn't go far like that. The oil streak turned off and started
through the older part of town and we continued on to school. As I
came back, I turned off and followed the trail. It led for another
mile and turned off on a dirt road, the same dirt road that leads to
the back side of some property I bought to open a motorcycle lodge,
hopefully next year. There's a run-down house that borders the back
side of that property, where much partying happens. The trail ended
there. There are several disabled vehicles around that place, it
could have come from any one of them.
At first I was worried because I'd had my truck along that same route
yesterday but when I saw that the trail went to the party house, I
knew it wasn't mine.
--
Jack
TomO
> TomO <tom@_nospam_towens.com> wrote in
> news:oZzKe.48$_T5....@news.uswest.net:
>
>
>>Michael R. Kesti wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>I honestly don't think that this was a factor as there was so much
>>>oil. Really, I do wish you could have seen it. I have a mud flap
>>>on the front fender and it was wet with oil that got kicked up off
>>>the tire after only about 8 feet of travel!
>>>
>>>
>>
>>My speculation, given that much oil in one spot, would be that a
>>construction vehicle blew out a hydraulic hose or something along
>>those lines. I still remember the huge mess when my little Ford
>>tractor blew one of those. I smelled funnier than usual for a week
>
>
> Huh, hydraulic fluid is nothing. Try swimming in crude.
I wouldn't say 'nothing'. Admittedly, there are worse things to be
showered with, but that hasn't been my experience yet. I'll pass on the
swim. "Come on in... the crude is fine". <g>
>
> I was working at a power plant where we burned crude oil (early 70s)
> and the heating element down in the tank that keeps the oil warm enough
> to flow went out. Being low man on the totem pole, I was chosen to be
> lowered into the tank to change out the heating element. I was dressed
> in rubber boots almost to my knees and assured that the oil was not
> that deep. Upon settling on the floor of the tank, my boots
> immediately filled with crude oil. I didn't worry about it too much,
> just proceded to do the job I had come for and change out the heater.
>
> All done so now to get out of the tank. After handling the heater, my
> hands were all covered with oil so I could not hold the rope to pull
> myself back up; also, even if I could hang on, I'm not sure I could
> have lifted myself AND the boots full of oil. So, I tied a loop in the
> rope, stood in it and three good strong coworkers begin to pull me up
> but with boots full of oil and hands covered with oil, a slip was in
> the picture for a flat on the back landing in somewhat over 2' of crude
> oil. Covered head to toe. Have you ever smelled crude oil?
>
Yuck! I don't even like sticking my hands in a pumpkin when it comes
time to make a Jack-O-Lantern. I hate it when I have to crack open an
old differential or tranny. But those are just (usually) hands getting
covered. Blowing out a pressure line is a hot oil shower.
I think I'll learn from your experience and not have to try that one for
myself.
--
TomO
Bob Mann
<mrk...@nospam.net> wrote:
>Bob Mann wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 17:53:32 -0600, "Bryan"
>><nestleN...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Michael R. Kesti" <mrk...@nospam.net> wrote in message
>>>news:42FA7583...@nospam.net...
>>>> My wife and I set out 5 weeks ago on our summer trip, riding our '87
>>>
>>>
>>>Who do you think you are, George Bush,or French? hehe. 5 weeks! I am soooo
>>>jealous.
>>
>>You mean everyone doesn't get 6 weeks?
>
>It'll be 5 weeks and 4 days this trip, unless another incident extends
>the time it will take us to ge home. It'll could be another 2 weeks
>before I go back to work, too. I'm a software engineering contractor,
>your see, and I don't always have a gig!
That's okay, I'm a retired property tax assessor and I don't have a
gig either. ;-)
Beav
"Michael R. Kesti" <mrk...@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:42FA7583...@nospam.net...
> My wife and I set out 5 weeks ago on our summer trip, riding our '87
Glad you're both Ok, but keep a better eye out for oil slicks eh? A 40ft
long one shouldn't REALLY be hard to spot.
--
Beav
Reply to "beavis dot original at ntlworld dot com" (with the obvious
changes)
Beav
"Bob Mann" <wil...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 17:53:32 -0600, "Bryan"
> <nestleN...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Michael R. Kesti" <mrk...@nospam.net> wrote in message
>>news:42FA7583...@nospam.net...
>>> My wife and I set out 5 weeks ago on our summer trip, riding our '87
>>
>>
>>Who do you think you are, George Bush,or French? hehe. 5 weeks! I am
>>soooo
>>jealous.
>>
>>Glad to hear you are ok.
>>
>>Bryan
>>
>>
> You mean everyone doesn't get 6 weeks?
I occasionally work for a week or two each year, but SIX??? No way.
Rayvan
>and down I-40) instead of pulling a trailer, accident wouldn't
>have happened.
>Jest a thought.... :)
Your posts have that certain nothing about them..
Bob Mann
<beavis....@ntlwoxoorld.com> wrote:
>
>"Bob Mann" <wil...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:si9lf1hv02va01c4s...@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 17:53:32 -0600, "Bryan"
>> <nestleN...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Michael R. Kesti" <mrk...@nospam.net> wrote in message
>>>news:42FA7583...@nospam.net...
>>>> My wife and I set out 5 weeks ago on our summer trip, riding our '87
>>>
>>>
>>>Who do you think you are, George Bush,or French? hehe. 5 weeks! I am
>>>soooo
>>>jealous.
>>>
>>>Glad to hear you are ok.
>>>
>>>Bryan
>>>
>>>
>> You mean everyone doesn't get 6 weeks?
>
>I occasionally work for a week or two each year, but SIX??? No way.
<grin> It's a U.S. thing. I swear the U.S. in general has the lousiest
vacation allowances in the free and developed world.
Albert Nurick
That's one of the reasons I started my own company; two weeks are not
enough.
--
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alb...@nurick.com | opinion, but not his own facts."
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High Plains Thumper
news:1123794963....@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
Don't you have a sense of humor? Sheeesh ....
--
HPT
Jack Hunt
wrote:
>That's one of the reasons I started my own company; two weeks are not
>enough.
Bingo. Even though I get five weeks now and will get a sixth in 3
more years, I'm hoping the lodge will do the same for Lori and me.
--
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'99 ST1100
'95 Suzuki DR250SE
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Ben Kaufman
Ben
On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 15:45:39 -0600, "Michael R. Kesti" <mrk...@nospam.net>
wrote:
>My wife and I set out 5 weeks ago on our summer trip, riding our '87
Michael R. Kesti
>Glad you're both Ok,
Thanks.
> but keep a better eye out for oil slicks eh? A 40ft
>long one shouldn't REALLY be hard to spot.
Did you miss the part about being 15 feet behind a pickup truck in stop-
and-go traffic? I suppose that one can take this as proof that I was
tailgating, but do you always leave that kind of gap in heavy traffic
moving at less than 10 MPH?
Rayvan
>Don't you have a sense of humor? Sheeesh ....
Apologies, HPT. As soon as i hit the "post" button I
realized I forgot the smilie. Have a good evening!
Hug the family for me...
:-)
High Plains Thumper
news:1123819549.7...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
No problemo.
--
HPT
Robert Bolton
"Jack Hunt" <jhu...@tds.net> wrote in message
news:u8unf15nb3n1v4oc1...@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 23:45:25 GMT, "Albert Nurick" <alb...@nurick.com>
> wrote:
>
>>That's one of the reasons I started my own company; two weeks are not
>>enough.
>
> Bingo. Even though I get five weeks now and will get a sixth in 3
> more years, I'm hoping the lodge will do the same for Lori and me.
>
Robert
Beav
"Rayvan" <rvann...@cachevision.com> wrote in message
news:1123794963....@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
*snort* :-))
Beav
"Larry xlax Lovisone" <nett...@combogusinfocast.net> wrote in message
news:StudnZHZgpo...@comcast.com...
>
>
> fangel Wangs with the ability to back up...
Even my old wang can do that, and it's been able to do it for years. Not so
good at it these days, but that's age for you:)
Beav
> Beav wrote:
>
>>Glad you're both Ok,
>
> Thanks.
>
>> but keep a better eye out for oil slicks eh? A 40ft
>>long one shouldn't REALLY be hard to spot.
>
> Did you miss the part about being 15 feet behind a pickup truck in stop-
> and-go traffic?
Actually, yes I dd, but that's probably because you didn't mention anything
about 15 ft. (A clip if you will......
At the last traffic light in town I was
> following a pickup truck that braked to stop for a red light. As I
> braked the wheels locked up for in apparent reason. I released the
> brakes to regain traction but, seeing the distance to the truck getting
> too short, I had no choice but to brake again. The front wheel folded
> to the left and the bike fell to the right. The front wheel went under
> the truck's bumper and the headlight hit the bumper shattering into a
> great many pieces. It turned out that the problem was a motor oil slick
> in the lane, perhaps 40 feet long!
Maybe you can point out where you said something about being 15ft away?
I suppose that one can take this as proof that I was
> tailgating, but do you always leave that kind of gap in heavy traffic
> moving at less than 10 MPH?
I tend to yeah, although at that speed, I wouldn't call it tailgating. I
really don't like the thought of being sandwiched between two vehicles, so I
either filter between traffic (not poss with a trailer, I grant you) or
leave a dollop of room in front. Still... a 40 ft oil slick takes some
missing.
Jack Hunt
<robertbo...@gci.net> wrote:
>Seems to me I read many small business owners work 6-16s.
Between giving 40 to the man and still trying to get all my stuff
done, I'm doing that already. Most people are.
--
Jack
Michael R. Kesti
>"Michael R. Kesti" <mrk...@nospam.net> wrote in message
>news:42FC1CC4...@nospam.net...
>>
>> Did you miss the part about being 15 feet behind a pickup truck in stop-
>> and-go traffic?
<snip>
>Maybe you can point out where you said something about being 15ft away?
You're correct. It seems I was recalling my written statement to the Ketchum
PD. Sorry about that.
<snip>
> Still... a 40 ft oil slick takes some
>missing.
It would have required x-ray vision to spot this one through the pickup
truck ahead of me. The lessons I hope to have learned are to leave more
room ahead even in low speed situations and to make fewer assumptions
concerning road surface conditions.
BTW, I am now writing from my home, having arrived today around noon, local
time. We rode the last 3 days and (~700 miles) of our trip without headlight
nor further incident. Last night we came too close to being on the road
after dark, but managed to get to the motel without drawing the attention
of the Reno PD or Nevada Highway Patrol!
Beav
> Beav wrote:
>
>>"Michael R. Kesti" <mrk...@nospam.net> wrote in message
>>news:42FC1CC4...@nospam.net...
>>>
>>> Did you miss the part about being 15 feet behind a pickup truck in stop-
>>> and-go traffic?
>
> <snip>
>
>>Maybe you can point out where you said something about being 15ft away?
>
> You're correct. It seems I was recalling my written statement to the
> Ketchum
> PD. Sorry about that.
Not a worry.
>
> <snip>
>
>> Still... a 40 ft oil slick takes some
>>missing.
>
> It would have required x-ray vision to spot this one through the pickup
> truck ahead of me. The lessons I hope to have learned are to leave more
> room ahead even in low speed situations and to make fewer assumptions
> concerning road surface conditions.
I learned the same lesson for "the other side" a few years ago when I was
rear ended by a car who didn't realise the road surface had changed from
good quality blacktop, to loose gravel only recently layed down. It was like
driving on ball bearings. I stopped, he didn't. but fortunately there was no
damage to either of our vehicles. I was VERY thankful I wasn't on a bike at
that time, but it's always been in the back of my mind when I'm in heavy
traffic since. A dinged headlight is a cheap lesson too I'd say.
>
> BTW, I am now writing from my home, having arrived today around noon,
> local
> time. We rode the last 3 days and (~700 miles) of our trip without
> headlight
> nor further incident. Last night we came too close to being on the road
> after dark, but managed to get to the motel without drawing the attention
> of the Reno PD or Nevada Highway Patrol!
Glad you got home in fine fettle. We wouldn't want you collecting tickets
after your experience and a nice uneventful bimble home is always good.
Have you had a price for a new headlamp, I can't see it being a cheap ass
part:-(
Michael R. Kesti
<snip>
>Glad you got home in fine fettle. We wouldn't want you collecting tickets
>after your experience and a nice uneventful bimble home is always good.
Heh. On one occasion I passed in front of a stopped highway patrol car
whose officer was looking down at paperwork or something and didn't look
up. If I was running loud pipes...
>Have you had a price for a new headlamp, I can't see it being a cheap ass
>part:-(
Honda lists it for $618! I don't want to pay that, but all is not lost.
There is one currently listed on eBay at $33 with less than 2.5 days
remaining. Plus, I just happen to own another GL1200A that I have been
unable to sell. (It runs well enough but doesn't look so good.) I have,
to date, resisted using it as a parts dog but that may now change and I
might take the parts I need and the sell the rest on eBay. It doesn't
seem right but I think I may be able to get more money for the parts than
I can as a complete and running bike!
In a completely unrelated matter, I dreamed last night that I was driving
my pickup truck up a fairly steep gravel road and encountered a riderless
SOHC4 750 coming around a bend in the opposite direction. Around the
turn I saw the rider unconscious and laying on the road. I got out of
my truck to see what I could do only to find that the road was so steep
that I needed to use a convenient nylon strap to climb the rest of the
way to the downed rider. I wonder what the hell that's supposed to mean?
Beav
> Beav wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>>Glad you got home in fine fettle. We wouldn't want you collecting tickets
>>after your experience and a nice uneventful bimble home is always good.
>
> Heh. On one occasion I passed in front of a stopped highway patrol car
> whose officer was looking down at paperwork or something and didn't look
> up. If I was running loud pipes...
If you had, he'd have pulled you over instead of RUNNING you over :)
>
>>Have you had a price for a new headlamp, I can't see it being a cheap ass
>>part:-(
>
> Honda lists it for $618!
Now why doesn't THAT surprise me?
I don't want to pay that, but all is not lost.
> There is one currently listed on eBay at $33 with less than 2.5 days
> remaining. Plus, I just happen to own another GL1200A that I have been
> unable to sell. (It runs well enough but doesn't look so good.) I have,
> to date, resisted using it as a parts dog but that may now change and I
> might take the parts I need and the sell the rest on eBay.
You're likely to get 3 times as much for the parts as you will for the
complete bike.
It doesn't
> seem right but I think I may be able to get more money for the parts than
> I can as a complete and running bike!
Oooops :-) One day I'll read the whole post before I do the rplying bit:)
But yeah, I think you will.
>
> In a completely unrelated matter, I dreamed last night that I was driving
> my pickup truck up a fairly steep gravel road and encountered a riderless
> SOHC4 750 coming around a bend in the opposite direction. Around the
> turn I saw the rider unconscious and laying on the road. I got out of
> my truck to see what I could do only to find that the road was so steep
> that I needed to use a convenient nylon strap to climb the rest of the
> way to the downed rider. I wonder what the hell that's supposed to mean?
You're using just a tad too many drugs,
You're a closet mountaineer with a fetish for biker chics
You're a wannabee base jumper without a parachute
You're a newbie necrophiliac, but not prepared for the "big one" just yet.
You're in advertising and it on an idea t sell nylon strapping (yellow I
hope)
You can choose one, but ONL one and you can't have any help.
Deal? :)