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Harry Greenspun

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Mar 29, 1994, 4:27:49 PM3/29/94
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As a member of a small "gang" of doctors, I'm interested in
corresponding (and riding!) with other physicians who own motorcycles
despite the ill-founded criticisms of our unknowing colleagues. Please
respond to the e-mail address below. This could be an unexpected twist on
health care reform, shattering old images of both motorcyclists and
medicine! Who knows, we could even get published?

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Harry G. Greenspun, M.D. 1993 Kawasaki
ZX-11 D1
Washington, D.C.
hgre...@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu

"The more you live, the less you die."

David DeCoster

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Mar 30, 1994, 11:00:46 AM3/30/94
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Why do you only want to ride with other physicians?
--

Davey D

deco...@vnet.ibm.com

For those who understand, NO explanation
is needed, for those who don't understand,
NO explanation will be given!

John R. Daker

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Mar 30, 1994, 3:11:29 PM3/30/94
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In a previous article, deco...@north.rchland.ibm.com (David DeCoster) says:

>In article <hgreensp-2...@128.220.90.233>, hgre...@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (Harry Greenspun) writes:

>Why do you only want to ride with other physicians?

Duh. It's so when Dr. Greenspun eventually crashes and splatters his
brains all over the road because of his dangerous motorcycle there will be
somebody around to sew him back together.
--
MIND THE GAP

Alazzurra 650SS
DoD #650

George Lyle (233789)

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Mar 30, 1994, 1:59:04 PM3/30/94
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In article <hgreensp-2...@128.220.90.233>, hgre...@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (Harry Greenspun) writes:
|> As a member of a small "gang" of doctors, I'm interested in
|> corresponding (and riding!) with other physicians who own motorcycles
|> despite the ill-founded criticisms of our unknowing colleagues. Please
|> respond to the e-mail address below. This could be an unexpected twist on
|> health care reform, shattering old images of both motorcyclists and
|> medicine! Who knows, we could even get published?
|>
|> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|> Harry G. Greenspun, M.D.


I see that the "old image" of doctors as "Eliteist snobs who only
associate with other doctors, even in non-medical activities"
is shatterproof. :-)

George Lyle (who'll happily ride his R100RT with anyone, be they
Janitors or Archbishops)

Geoff Camp

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Mar 30, 1994, 4:51:33 PM3/30/94
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In article <1994Mar30.1...@enterprise.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com>,

Actually, I bet he'd like riding with anyone too, but he'd ALSO like to
find out if there are many others in his line of work out there on bikes,
since most doctors (or so I've heard) hate bikes 'cause of all the piles of
human roadkill they have to try to reconstitute into something animal
rather than vegetable. Give the guy a break. Oh, whoops, my fault, this
is rec.moto... I thought I was back on rec.huggy.kissy. Ach vell, flame
away.


Geoff Camp
gca...@cc.swarthmore.edu
'82 Yamaha Virago 750

"...but that's not important right now."

John Sloan

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Mar 30, 1994, 5:34:06 PM3/30/94
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From article <gcamp1-30...@mac15.whartonef1.swarthmore.edu>, by gca...@cc.swarthmore.edu (Geoff Camp):
:

> since most doctors (or so I've heard) hate bikes 'cause of all the piles of
> human roadkill they have to try to reconstitute into something animal
:

Gosh, this must be why lots of physicians's smoke. Docs are just as
good at rationalizing risky behavior as the rest of us, maybe more so.
I know one M.D. intimately who at least likes riding pillion on an
ElectraGlide. I know another who, when he wrecked his Sporty, turned
around and bought a FXR of some type. And finally, I know one surgeon
who is collecting Italian bikes in his garage ("for retirement"), and
rides a Laverda routinely.

BTW, I just now remembered that there _used_ to be a club specifically
for physicians, with newsletter and whatnot. Used to see classified
ad's for it in BMW MOA etc. Haven't seen it in a long while.

--
John Sloan "There are no ordinary moments." +1 303 497 1243
NCAR/SCD -- Dan Millman Fax +1 303 497 1818
Boulder CO 80307-3000 USA ML48B jsl...@ncar.ucar.edu
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Kent Polk

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Mar 30, 1994, 6:15:37 PM3/30/94
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In article <2ncuou$k...@ncar.ucar.edu> jsl...@ncar.ucar.edu (John Sloan) writes:
> From article <gcamp1-30...@mac15.whartonef1.swarthmore.edu>, by gca...@cc.swarthmore.edu (Geoff Camp):
> :
> > since most doctors (or so I've heard) hate bikes 'cause of all the piles of
> > human roadkill they have to try to reconstitute into something animal
> :
>
> Gosh, this must be why lots of physicians's smoke. Docs are just as
> good at rationalizing risky behavior as the rest of us, maybe more so.

And snowski and ride horseback and drive their Volvo's and BMW's like
maniacs. At least all the ones in my neighborhood do...

--
Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute (will disavow any knowledge of me)
Internet : ke...@eaenki.nde.swri.edu
(DoF #) : Bikes are red. Bikes are blue. Bikes are light and nimble too.
Cars suck. The end.

Frank Supik

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Mar 30, 1994, 9:07:23 PM3/30/94
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In article <gcamp1-30...@mac15.whartonef1.swarthmore.edu> gca...@cc.swarthmore.edu (Geoff Camp) writes:
>In article <1994Mar30.1...@enterprise.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com>,
>gl...@marie.seas.ucla.edu (George Lyle (233789)) wrote:
>>
>> In article <hgreensp-2...@128.220.90.233>, hgre...@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (Harry Greenspun) writes:
>> |> As a member of a small "gang" of doctors, I'm interested in
>> |> corresponding (and riding!) with other physicians who own motorcycles
>> |> despite the ill-founded criticisms of our unknowing colleagues. Please
>> |> respond to the e-mail address below. This could be an unexpected twist on
>> |> health care reform, shattering old images of both motorcyclists and
>> |> medicine! Who knows, we could even get published?
>> |>
>>
>> I see that the "old image" of doctors as "Eliteist snobs who only
>> associate with other doctors, even in non-medical activities"
>> is shatterproof. :-)
>>
>> George Lyle (who'll happily ride his R100RT with anyone, be they
>> Janitors or Archbishops)
>
>Actually, I bet he'd like riding with anyone too, but he'd ALSO like to
>find out if there are many others in his line of work out there on bikes,
>since most doctors (or so I've heard) hate bikes 'cause of all the piles of
>human roadkill they have to try to reconstitute into something animal
>rather than vegetable. Give the guy a break. Oh, whoops, my fault, this

My uncle, the crazed Dr. in Las Vegas, has sworn that he'll buy a bike
on his 60th birthday. Why? "So I'll be sure to turn into roadkill
before my kids can put me in a nursing home." 'Course, he wants to
buy a shaftie, since he doesn't know how to countersteer anyway....

fsu...@eng.umd.edu 1983 Kawi LTD440 "Kitty"
Washington, DC 1992 Honda CB750 "Samantha"
With enough caffiene, anything is possible.

Michael D. Maxfield

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Mar 30, 1994, 10:10:02 PM3/30/94
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In article <2ncmdh$5...@news.ysu.edu> posted to the Usenet Newsgroup(s)
rec.motorcycles

ak...@yfn.ysu.edu (John R. Daker) writes:
>
>>In article <hgreensp-2...@128.220.90.233>, hgre...@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (Harry Greenspun) writes:
>>|> As a member of a small "gang" of doctors, I'm interested in
>>|> corresponding (and riding!) with other physicians who own motorcycles
>>|> despite the ill-founded criticisms of our unknowing colleagues. Please
>>|> respond to the e-mail address below. This could be an unexpected twist on
>>|> health care reform, shattering old images of both motorcyclists and
>>|> medicine! Who knows, we could even get published?
>>|>
>
>Duh. It's so when Dr. Greenspun eventually crashes and splatters his
>brains all over the road because of his dangerous motorcycle there will be
>somebody around to sew him back together.
>--
>MIND THE GAP

Sure, you can mind the gap, but don't gap the mind.

You know, this entire thread made me think about the way way back centuries
ago tv sho Medical Center... with Dr. Richard Kiley riding his motorcycle
to the hospital in a full three piece suit.

Doesnt mean anything... I just fiqured that if I have to suffer the
torturous memories of Medical Center, so should all of you.

tw...@netcom.com tw...@tweekco.ness.com WWIVNet 1@511 DoD #MCMLX
I'd rather get my cable service from the phone company,
than my phone service from the cable company.


John Sloan

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Mar 30, 1994, 11:45:44 PM3/30/94
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From article <tweekCn...@netcom.com>, by tw...@netcom.com (Michael D. Maxfield):

> ago tv sho Medical Center... with Dr. Richard Kiley riding his motorcycle
> to the hospital in a full three piece suit.

That was MARCUS WELBY, M.D., featuring Robert Young in the title role,
and James Brolin as Dr. Steven Kiley, 1969-1976. I believe young
Dr. Kiley rode a BMW. Wore a helmet too.

Curt Howland

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Mar 31, 1994, 2:56:58 AM3/31/94
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hgre...@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (Harry Greenspun) writes:
|> |> As a member of a small "gang" of doctors, I'm interested in
|> |> corresponding (and riding!) with other physicians who own motorcycles

deco...@north.rchland.ibm.com (David DeCoster) writes:
|> Why do you only want to ride with other physicians?

In case there's a wreck, you see, trained
medical personell are available immediately.

It's also a good idea to have people around
who know CPR when working on high voltage.

Curt-

John Stafford

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Mar 31, 1994, 9:12:31 AM3/31/94
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In article <CnHtA...@bigtop.dr.att.com>, jma...@elvis.dr.att.com (John
W. Markus) wrote:

> hgre...@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (Harry Greenspun) writes:
> > As a member of a small "gang" of doctors, I'm interested in
> > corresponding (and riding!) with other physicians who own motorcycles
> > despite the ill-founded criticisms of our unknowing colleagues. Please
> > respond to the e-mail address below. This could be an unexpected twist on
> > health care reform, shattering old images of both motorcyclists and
> > medicine! Who knows, we could even get published?
>

> deco...@rchland.vnet.ibm.com writes:
> >Why do you only want to ride with other physicians?

Really! I should think the prospect of malpractice suits would
discourage them from riding with anyone but the HA.

--
john stafford winona state university - academic computing

Lyle_...@transarc.com

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Mar 31, 1994, 3:37:28 PM3/31/94
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gl...@marie.seas.ucla.edu (George Lyle (233789)) writes:
> I see that the "old image" of doctors as "Eliteist snobs who only
> associate with other doctors, even in non-medical activities"
> is shatterproof. :-)

You misspelled "elitist".

Joe-Bob Winston Aberthwick III, M.D.

news

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Mar 31, 1994, 4:18:55 PM3/31/94
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In article 4...@bigtop.dr.att.com, jma...@elvis.dr.att.com (John W. Markus) writes:

>hgre...@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (Harry Greenspun) writes:
>>This could be an unexpected twist on
>> health care reform, shattering old images of both motorcyclists and
>> medicine! Who knows, we could even get published?
>
>deco...@rchland.vnet.ibm.com writes:
>>Why do you only want to ride with other physicians?
>
>
>Well, if any of them get in a wreck, they will have immediate
>medical attention.
>
OR

No medical attention due to a "Malpractice Lawsuit"
from John Rielly and Associates

Robert S. Fourney

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Mar 31, 1994, 4:49:00 PM3/31/94
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In article <2nc7ne$9...@locutus.rchland.ibm.com> deco...@rchland.vnet.ibm.com writes:
>In article <hgreensp-2...@128.220.90.233>, hgre...@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (Harry Greenspun) writes:
>|> As a member of a small "gang" of doctors, I'm interested in
>|> corresponding (and riding!) with other physicians who own motorcycles
>|> despite the ill-founded criticisms of our unknowing colleagues. Please
>|> respond to the e-mail address below. This could be an unexpected twist on
>|> health care reform, shattering old images of both motorcyclists and
>|> medicine! Who knows, we could even get published?
>|>
>|> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>|> Harry G. Greenspun, M.D. 1993 Kawasaki
>|> ZX-11 D1
>|> Washington, D.C.
>|> hgre...@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu
>|>
>|> "The more you live, the less you die."
>
>Why do you only want to ride with other physicians?
>--
So when I "fall down-go boom" somebody can fix me up?
(I also want to ride with a decent mechanic who won't let them tow
my bike if I am not in good enough shape to intercede on her behalf)


Bob Fourney (Not the original poster)

George Lyle (233789)

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Mar 31, 1994, 5:49:17 PM3/31/94
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Well, perhaps I was too hard on the good Dr., but it was all in fun
as the smiley face was supposed to point out. But think about it.
There are doctor's airplane clubs, doctor's ham radio clubs, doctor's
travel clubs, and quite a few more that I will remember after I post
this. Are there any other vocations that have so many non-related
exclusive clubs? Perhaps lawyers?

George

John Stafford

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Mar 31, 1994, 8:09:15 PM3/31/94
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There are many doctors riding.

ooooooh, you mean MEDICAL doctors? Medical doctors? Those people
with the mere TECHNICAL degree? I thought you meant REAL doctors (PhD's)

Michael D. Maxfield

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Mar 31, 1994, 8:49:13 PM3/31/94
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In article <2ndkho$f...@ncar.ucar.edu> posted to the Usenet Newsgroup(s)
rec.motorcycles

jsl...@ncar.ucar.edu (John Sloan) writes:
>From article <tweekCn...@netcom.com>, by tw...@netcom.com (Michael D. Maxfield):
>> ago tv sho Medical Center... with Dr. Richard Kiley riding his motorcycle
>> to the hospital in a full three piece suit.
>
>That was MARCUS WELBY, M.D., featuring Robert Young in the title role,
>and James Brolin as Dr. Steven Kiley, 1969-1976. I believe young
>Dr. Kiley rode a BMW. Wore a helmet too.

I feel bad enough that I was able to remember Dr. Kiley's LAST name...
Too bad I couldn't forget that also.

Mike "Maybe I could say I was Trolling from AFU" Maxfield

Mike Mitten

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Apr 1, 1994, 10:21:16 AM4/1/94
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In <1994Mar31.2...@enterprise.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com>, George Lyle (233789) (gl...@marie.seas.ucla.edu) wrote:
>There are doctor's airplane clubs, doctor's ham radio clubs, doctor's
>travel clubs, and quite a few more that I will remember after I post
>this. Are there any other vocations that have so many non-related
>exclusive clubs? Perhaps lawyers?

Perhaps computer geeks?

rec.aviation.*
rec.radio.amateur.*
rec.travel.*

Disclaimer: One of my myriad cousins (Kathleen) is a doctor.

-Mike "or have I swallowed the rod and reel as well" Mitten

Mike Mitten - gn...@pd.org - DoD#522 - AMA, ACLU Straight but not narrow.
'90 Bianchi Backstreet '82 Suzuki GS850GL Irony is the spice of life.
"The revolution will not be televised."

Don Fearn

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Apr 1, 1994, 11:34:38 AM4/1/94
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In article <1994Mar31.2...@enterprise.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com>,
gl...@marie.seas.ucla.edu (George Lyle (233789)) wonders in amazement:

|> [ . . . ]

|> Are there any other vocations that have so many non-related
|> exclusive clubs? Perhaps lawyers?

Yep. There's a lawyers' motorcycle riding club based somewhere in MN.

(I don't remember the name of the club, the name of the city, or whether
or not this is true . . . in fact the only thing I remember is that I was
supposed to do something at 10:30 . . . what was it now . . . ?
OH YEAH! I'm going _riding_ this morning! Gretchen's waiting! Then
Anitra!! Hey, I gotta get going now . . . . )

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