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Sean_Q_

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Nov 7, 2009, 6:57:09 PM11/7/09
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S'mee

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Nov 7, 2009, 8:14:06 PM11/7/09
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On Nov 7, 4:57 pm, Sean_Q_ <no.s...@no.spam> wrote:
> http://www.ratbike.org/pages/793gn250.htm
>
> SQ

The gun carrier was cool. The bike? too silly.

BrianNZ

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Nov 7, 2009, 10:06:30 PM11/7/09
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Sean_Q_ wrote:
> http://www.ratbike.org/pages/793gn250.htm
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> SQ

Haven't seen the bike, but I was watching bren-gun carriers in action
last week at a military vehicles display. I just checked my pics to see
if it was the same one, but the one I was watching was # NZ23625.

My younger brother rode a GN 250 for years.....until it was unridable
through lack of maintenance, then it was to costly to fix.....

turby

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Nov 7, 2009, 10:10:23 PM11/7/09
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On Nov 7, 3:57 pm, Sean_Q_ <no.s...@no.spam> wrote:
> http://www.ratbike.org/pages/793gn250.htm
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> SQ

Is that by any chance, a replica of a Canadian volunteer motorcycle
from WWII?

BrianNZ

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Nov 7, 2009, 10:35:08 PM11/7/09
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Pre 1944 or post 1944??

Laden or unladen?

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Nov 7, 2009, 10:36:33 PM11/7/09
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Are you swallowing again ?


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Nov 7, 2009, 10:38:31 PM11/7/09
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.p.jm.@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:35:08 +1300, BrianNZ <br...@itnz.co.nz> wrote:
>
>> turby wrote:
>>> On Nov 7, 3:57 pm, Sean_Q_ <no.s...@no.spam> wrote:
>>>> http://www.ratbike.org/pages/793gn250.htm
>>>>
>>>> SQ
>>> Is that by any chance, a replica of a Canadian volunteer motorcycle
>>> from WWII?
>>
>> Pre 1944 or post 1944??
>>
>> Laden or unladen?
>
> Are you swallowing again ?
>
>


Gulp!

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Nov 7, 2009, 10:45:58 PM11/7/09
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Was that an African gulp or a European gulp ?

BrianNZ

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Nov 7, 2009, 10:52:02 PM11/7/09
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.p.jm.@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:38:31 +1300, BrianNZ <br...@itnz.co.nz> wrote:
>
>> .p.jm.@see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote:
>>> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:35:08 +1300, BrianNZ <br...@itnz.co.nz> wrote:
>>>
>>>> turby wrote:
>>>>> On Nov 7, 3:57 pm, Sean_Q_ <no.s...@no.spam> wrote:
>>>>>> http://www.ratbike.org/pages/793gn250.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SQ
>>>>> Is that by any chance, a replica of a Canadian volunteer motorcycle
>>>>> from WWII?
>>>> Pre 1944 or post 1944??
>>>>
>>>> Laden or unladen?
>>> Are you swallowing again ?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Gulp!
>
> Was that an African gulp or a European gulp ?
>
>


It was supposed to be Canadian. Maybe there wasn't enough cheese with
the whine......

Sean_Q_

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Nov 7, 2009, 11:08:46 PM11/7/09
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BrianNZ wrote:

> Haven't seen the bike, but I was watching bren-gun carriers in action
> last week at a military vehicles display.

"In action"? I'm wondering why NZ needs bren guns (and carriers) at all.
To defend your shores against hordes of North Koreans? It's not like
you're in Ireland, where you could be telling a story like this:

Oh I am a merry ploughboy, and I plough the fields all day,
'Till a sudden thought came to my mind, to join the I.R.A.
And we're off to Dublin in the green, in the green
With our helmets glistenin' in the sun,
Where the bay'nets clash and the rifles crash,
To the echo of a Thompson gun.

[Note: when I'm sober, which is some of the time, I am a staunch
monarchist and all for the British Crown and all that. However,
at a certain BAC (somewhat above the legally impaired limit)
a curious transformation takes place, whereupon I have been known
to belt out songs of the Irish Revolution such as the above
at a conspicuous volume. If I'm with friends they tend to either
bury me in something soundproof (like a pile of coats) or drag me
to a place of safety, meaning out of earshot of any Brits, Orangemen,
or United Empire Loyalists in the vicinity.

SQ

Sean_Q_

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Nov 7, 2009, 11:23:43 PM11/7/09
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turby wrote:

> Is that by any chance, a replica of a Canadian volunteer motorcycle
> from WWII?

Yes. A company of Canadians who had volunteered with the Chindits
rode captured Japanese motorbikes like this all over Burma, passing
themselves off as a troupe of Italian opera singers (Italy being
an Axis nation).

SQ

BrianNZ

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Nov 8, 2009, 12:53:42 AM11/8/09
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"In action" = driving around a gravel pit shooting blanks at low flying
planes doing mock 'strafing' runs. Also having a play with the blanks
were the German crowd shooting their MG-42 on the AA tri-pod and of
course, Jeeps mounted with .50 cal and .30 cal machine guns.

I think there might be more military vehicles in private hands than in
the armed forces. :)

Soviet T-55...NZ$80k landed......i need some OT.!

No need to defend our shores....I'm sure the politicians will just sell
us to the highest bidder..... Money , not war. :)

The Older Gentleman

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Nov 8, 2009, 4:09:19 AM11/8/09
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Sean_Q_ <no....@no.spam> wrote:

> http://www.ratbike.org/pages/793gn250.htm
>
Oh, that's great.

The tracked thing is a Bren gun carrier, I think.


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S'mee

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Nov 8, 2009, 10:21:45 AM11/8/09
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Sounds like fun. You might get a giggle out of the MG shoots we have
in the states...everything from full auto 22cal up to Parrot guns and
mini-guns. 8^) Wouldn't mind having a French 75 to play with or a
battery of 12 pounders.

> I think there might be more military vehicles in private hands than in
> the armed forces.  :)

Some would argue that's the way ALL countries should be. Keeps the
pol's on their toes. ;^)

> Soviet T-55...NZ$80k landed......i need some OT.!

Heh, I want a wharehouse fresh T-34/76. Preferable with the breech
compleate and functional. I'll source my own main gun rounds. 8^) Not
sure which foundery to contract with for making more track shoes.

> No need to defend our shores....I'm sure the politicians will just sell
> us to the highest bidder..... Money , not war.  :)

Sorry but mankinds has yet to make a science of ethics and morals much
less dispose of such barbaric things as religion, governments,
collectivism, socialism etc.

S'mee

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Nov 8, 2009, 10:22:36 AM11/8/09
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Definately headed south.

turby

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Nov 8, 2009, 12:28:07 PM11/8/09
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On Nov 8, 7:21 am, "S'mee" <stevenkei...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 7, 10:53 pm, BrianNZ <br...@itnz.co.nz> wrote:
>

> > I think there might be more military vehicles in private hands than in
> > the armed forces.  :)
>
> Some would argue that's the way ALL countries should be. Keeps the
> pol's on their toes. ;^)
>
> > Soviet T-55...NZ$80k landed......i need some OT.!
>
> Heh, I want a wharehouse fresh T-34/76. Preferable with the breech
> compleate and functional. I'll source my own main gun rounds. 8^) Not
> sure which foundery to contract with for making more track shoes.
>

A guy in my neighborhood tried that. Didn't go so well.

The Older Gentleman

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Nov 8, 2009, 12:30:32 PM11/8/09
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BrianNZ <br...@itnz.co.nz> wrote:

> I think there might be more military vehicles in private hands than in
> the armed forces. :)

There's a lot in Britain, where you're allowed to use them on public
roads. Yes, even tanks.

BrianNZ

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Nov 8, 2009, 1:26:37 PM11/8/09
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The Older Gentleman wrote:
> BrianNZ <br...@itnz.co.nz> wrote:
>
>> I think there might be more military vehicles in private hands than in
>> the armed forces. :)
>
> There's a lot in Britain, where you're allowed to use them on public
> roads. Yes, even tanks.
>
>


Ditto, as long as they have rubber cleats on the tracks.

The Older Gentleman

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Nov 8, 2009, 1:56:28 PM11/8/09
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BrianNZ <br...@itnz.co.nz> wrote:

That's the same here. I've actually seen a Scimitar[1] bowling along a
highway with some grinning loon standing in the turret.

[1] Jaguar engine!

S'mee

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Nov 8, 2009, 2:32:00 PM11/8/09
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Ah, couldn't pass the FBI/BATF rectal probes I take it? Now me, I'm
cleaner than a whistle and wouldn't have a problem getting a
destructive device license. 8^)

J. Clarke

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Nov 8, 2009, 2:48:11 PM11/8/09
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The Older Gentleman wrote:
> BrianNZ <br...@itnz.co.nz> wrote:
>
>> I think there might be more military vehicles in private hands than
>> in the armed forces. :)
>
> There's a lot in Britain, where you're allowed to use them on public
> roads. Yes, even tanks.

I lost all respect for Tom Clancy when I found out that he had divorced a
woman who gave him a tank for Christmas. Hey, Clancy, if you're out there,
google "keeper".

J. Clarke

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Nov 8, 2009, 2:50:34 PM11/8/09
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The Older Gentleman wrote:
> BrianNZ <br...@itnz.co.nz> wrote:
>
>> The Older Gentleman wrote:
>>> BrianNZ <br...@itnz.co.nz> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think there might be more military vehicles in private hands
>>>> than in the armed forces. :)
>>>
>>> There's a lot in Britain, where you're allowed to use them on public
>>> roads. Yes, even tanks.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Ditto, as long as they have rubber cleats on the tracks.
>
> That's the same here. I've actually seen a Scimitar[1] bowling along a
> highway with some grinning loon standing in the turret.
>
> [1] Jaguar engine!

Some guy in California used to commute to work in an M8 Greyhound, which in
the days of the double nickel could maintain highway speed.

Twibil

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Nov 8, 2009, 3:44:22 PM11/8/09
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On Nov 8, 11:32 am, "S'mee" <stevenkei...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> > > Heh, I want a wharehouse fresh T-34/76. Preferable with the breech
> > > compleate and functional. I'll source my own main gun rounds. 8^) Not
> > > sure which foundery to contract with for making more track shoes.
>
> > A guy in my neighborhood tried that. Didn't go so well.
>
> Ah, couldn't pass the FBI/BATF rectal probes I take it?

Well, not exactly: turned out he wasn't bulletproof after all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDYU-uKo1N8

The Older Gentleman

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Nov 8, 2009, 4:29:19 PM11/8/09
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J. Clarke <jclarke...@cox.net> wrote:

I had to Google for that :-)

Nice, but it has those infra-dig wheels. This is/was a Scorpion.

http://www.enemyforces.net/tanks/scorpion.htm

Governed to about 50mph, I think, but easily de-restricted and would hit
70 if so treated.

<fx: wiki>

Heh: "It is also one of the fastest tanks in the world ... Original
models had a Jaguar 4.2 litre petrol engine. This engine was chosen
because of its high power to weight ratio. Some customers specified
diesel engines. The Perkins diesel engine was chosen, which has shown
longer in-service life, and has a reduced risk of fire. All models are
capable of 80 km/h. "

The Older Gentleman

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Nov 8, 2009, 4:29:19 PM11/8/09
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J. Clarke <jclarke...@cox.net> wrote:

He did *what*????

Idiot :-)

J. Clarke

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Nov 8, 2009, 6:13:50 PM11/8/09
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The Older Gentleman wrote:
> J. Clarke <jclarke...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> The Older Gentleman wrote:
>>> BrianNZ <br...@itnz.co.nz> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think there might be more military vehicles in private hands than
>>>> in the armed forces. :)
>>>
>>> There's a lot in Britain, where you're allowed to use them on public
>>> roads. Yes, even tanks.
>>
>> I lost all respect for Tom Clancy when I found out that he had
>> divorced a woman who gave him a tank for Christmas. Hey, Clancy, if
>> you're out there, google "keeper".
>
> He did *what*????
>
> Idiot :-)

http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20125539,00.html

J. Clarke

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Nov 8, 2009, 6:15:12 PM11/8/09
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Fully tracked vehicles are cool but for a daily driver the maintenance is a
bitch.

.p.jm.@see_my_sig_for_address.com

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Nov 8, 2009, 7:23:28 PM11/8/09
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:15:12 -0500, "J. Clarke"
<jclarke...@cox.net> wrote:


>
>Fully tracked vehicles are cool but for a daily driver the maintenance is a
>bitch.

Yeh, but rush hour is a pisser :-)

S'mee

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Nov 8, 2009, 9:29:19 PM11/8/09
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Failed the survival test...yeah I remember that one. IF the idiot had
bothered to dog his hatches that wouldn't have happened. His getting
shot I mean.

S'mee

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Nov 8, 2009, 9:34:03 PM11/8/09
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On Nov 8, 2:29 pm, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
Gentleman) wrote:

> J. Clarke <jclarke.use...@cox.net> wrote:
> > The Older Gentleman wrote:
> > > BrianNZ <br...@itnz.co.nz> wrote:
>
> > >> The Older Gentleman wrote:
> > >>> BrianNZ <br...@itnz.co.nz> wrote:
>
> > >>>> I think there might be more military vehicles in private hands
> > >>>> than in the armed forces.  :)
>
> > >>> There's a lot in Britain, where you're allowed to use them on public
> > >>> roads. Yes, even tanks.
>
> > >> Ditto, as long as they have rubber cleats on the tracks.
>
> > > That's the same here. I've actually seen a Scimitar[1] bowling along a
> > > highway with some grinning loon standing in the turret.
>
> > > [1] Jaguar engine!
>
> > Some guy in California used to commute to work in an M8 Greyhound, which in
> > the days of the double nickel could maintain highway speed.
>
> I had to Google for that :-)
>
> Nice, but it has those infra-dig wheels. This is/was a Scorpion.

No thanks, track pads are not easy to replace (even with an air impact
wrench) and they aren't cheap. Not to memtnion you have to bring along
at least 1 other person every time you go out. Why? WHY? Well sonny
boy let's see you put that track back on by yourself me boyo...
Throwing track isn't a joke and depending on your speed as bad as a
blow out. Not that I'd EVER drive that stupid.

> http://www.enemyforces.net/tanks/scorpion.htm

I've driven better. ;^)

Twibil

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Nov 8, 2009, 10:14:49 PM11/8/09
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On Nov 8, 6:29 pm, "S'mee" <stevenkei...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDYU-uKo1N8
>
> Failed the survival test...yeah I remember that one. IF the idiot had
> bothered to dog his hatches that wouldn't have happened. His getting
> shot I mean.

I suspect the undogged hatch was on purpose.

That was a "suicide by cop" if ever I've seen one.

S'mee

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Nov 8, 2009, 10:30:33 PM11/8/09
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Naw, suicide by being stupid drunk. I say that because IF I remember
that one correctly he was drunk and mentally unbalanced. I see many
similarities between his actions and a certain poster here. No not
HHH, he's a "true believer" as Stan Lee would say.

Stephen Cowell

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Nov 8, 2009, 10:34:40 PM11/8/09
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"Twibil" <noway...@gmail.com> wrote

Took a crowbar and bolt-cutters to get in, s'what I read.
Big mistake was taking that concrete divider at an oblique
angle... should have hit it at 90degrees. Or hell, just turn
around and go the wrong way on the road he was on.

How about the dude that made his own death machine,
out of a bulldozer?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Heemeyer
__
Steve
.


Mark Olson

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Nov 8, 2009, 10:37:28 PM11/8/09
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Stephen Cowell wrote:

> How about the dude that made his own death machine,
> out of a bulldozer?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Heemeyer

What do you want to bet he saw _The Gauntlet_ a time or two?

The Older Gentleman

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J. Clarke <jclarke...@cox.net> wrote:

> http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20125539,00.html

Oh, right. Thanks for that. So he found a younger model.

*Sigh*. Bet she doesn't give him much tanks.

The Older Gentleman

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Nov 9, 2009, 2:18:03 AM11/9/09
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J. Clarke <jclarke...@cox.net> wrote:

> Fully tracked vehicles are cool but for a daily driver the maintenance is a
> bitch.

Well, yes. And that's even without the "Jaguar Factor".

The Older Gentleman

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Stephen Cowell <stephenleeN...@gmail.com> wrote:

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Heemeyer

Heh. I never heard of that. Sound chap: we've all wanted to do something
like that from time to time, I suspect.

J. Clarke

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Nov 9, 2009, 3:56:45 AM11/9/09
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The Older Gentleman wrote:
> J. Clarke <jclarke...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20125539,00.html
>
> Oh, right. Thanks for that. So he found a younger model.
>
> *Sigh*. Bet she doesn't give him much tanks.

Yep. And around the time that they started having trouble his writing went
to Hell.

TOG@Toil

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On 9 Nov, 08:56, "J. Clarke" <jclarke.use...@cox.net> wrote:
> The Older Gentleman wrote:
> > J. Clarke <jclarke.use...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >>http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20125539,00.html
>
> > Oh, right. Thanks for that. So he found a younger model.
>
> > *Sigh*. Bet she doesn't give him much tanks.
>
> Yep.  And around the time that they started having trouble his writing went
> to Hell.

I never thought of him as a writer of great literature, but by God he
could pace a story, plot it well, and keep you turning the pages.

I found his non-fiction military stuff full of interesting detail, but
appallingly written.

Haven't read any of his stuff in years. I mean, is he still writing
thrillers?

J. Clarke

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Nov 9, 2009, 6:33:48 AM11/9/09
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Trying to. The last one I reread was "Without Remorse", but that's more
because his main character and I share a name I think. The one after that,
that had the Japanese wiping out the US legislative and executive branches
with a 747, resulting in Jack Ryan becoming President, was so over the top
that it had become silly. I think I read one more after that and it was
kind of plodding--I remember distinctly that a point came when I realized
that reading it was work and not play. After that I lost interest in him.
I understand that he has a new one out in which Jack Ryan's kid has grown up
and become an assassin or some such.

TOG@Toil

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On 9 Nov, 11:33, "J. Clarke" <jclarke.use...@cox.net> wrote:
> TOG@Toil wrote:


>
> > Haven't read any of his stuff in years. I mean, is he still writing
> > thrillers?
>
> Trying to.  The last one I reread was "Without Remorse", but that's more
> because his main character and I share a name I think.  The one after that,
> that had the Japanese wiping out the US legislative and executive branches
> with a 747, resulting in Jack Ryan becoming President, was so over the top
> that it had become silly.

Oh, I remember that one. Like you, that was when I gave up, and didn't
bother finishing the book.

And it was implausible. But he got one prescient fact right: the idea
of deliberately suicide-crashing a commercial jet into a building....

J. Clarke

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Nov 9, 2009, 9:21:48 AM11/9/09
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Yep. And I do wonder if that's where they got the idea.

S'mee

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Nov 9, 2009, 9:39:44 AM11/9/09
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On Nov 9, 12:18 am, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
Gentleman) wrote:

> J. Clarke <jclarke.use...@cox.net> wrote:
> > Fully tracked vehicles are cool but for a daily driver the maintenance is a
> > bitch.
>
> Well, yes. And that's even without the "Jaguar Factor".

Like a Sunbeam would have been any better... 8^)

S'mee

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On Nov 9, 12:18 am, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older
Gentleman) wrote:
> J. Clarke <jclarke.use...@cox.net> wrote:
> >http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20125539,00.html
>
> Oh, right. Thanks for that. So he found a younger model.
>
> *Sigh*. Bet she doesn't give him much tanks.

She needs ot shop at this site then:

http://www.armyjeeps.net/armor1.htm

sadly I know which ones I can put plates on and legally drive on the
road and which I can't. I also know which you can take
fishing...though you'll scare the fish away.

The Older Gentleman

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Nov 9, 2009, 1:43:49 PM11/9/09
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J. Clarke <jclarke...@cox.net> wrote:

>> But he got one prescient fact right: the idea
> > of deliberately suicide-crashing a commercial jet into a building....
>
> Yep. And I do wonder if that's where they got the idea.

Hmmmm.....

Twibil

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Nov 9, 2009, 2:53:13 PM11/9/09
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On Nov 9, 10:43 am, totallydeadmail...@yahoo.co.uk (The Older

Gentleman) wrote:
>
>
> >> But he got one prescient fact right: the idea
> > > of deliberately suicide-crashing a commercial jet into a building....
>
> > Yep.  And I do wonder if that's where they got the idea.
>
> Hmmmm.....

Has neither of you ever heard of Kamakazes? Only reason the WW2
Japanese weren't crashing zeros into buildings on the American west
coast was that they lacked the range to do so.

The Older Gentleman

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Nov 9, 2009, 3:50:27 PM11/9/09
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Twibil <noway...@gmail.com> wrote:

How many Kamikaze pilots used commercial jets? ;-)

But yes, good point, well made.

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