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CBR600F3 Exhaust Suggestions?

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Steve Lee

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Aug 21, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/21/95
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I have a '95 CBR600F3 and was wondering if anyone has any suggestions on
exhaust slip-ons since I don't like Honda's huge canister. I am looking
for a smaller canister with a decent-sounding exhaust tone and no rejetting.

Also, are slip-ons easy to install?

Any replies are greatly appreciated.

Steve Lee
gt5...@prism.gatech.edu

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holl...@mhv.net

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Aug 23, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/23/95
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In <41at0m$f...@acmex.gatech.edu>, gt5...@prism.gatech.edu (Steve Lee) writes:
>I have a '95 CBR600F3 and was wondering if anyone has any suggestions on
>exhaust slip-ons since I don't like Honda's huge canister. I am looking
>for a smaller canister with a decent-sounding exhaust tone and no rejetting.

It has been shown that by changing the exhaust system on a F3 you get only marginal
performance gains. The stock system is a well engineered unit and what you get
by adding an aftermarket system in terms of performance will not off set the ridability
factor of a pipe and jet kit. When you add a pipe and jet kit, the bike becomes much
more tempermental when riding in different temperatures.

As for a slip on it will make only more noise, not more power, espicially on your
motorcycle.

I personally would leave it stock and put the money towards a riding school or riding
leathers as you will be much farther ahead. My bike is stock, and I can out ride most
people even when they are on larger bikes than me and I never have problems when
wailing past houses at 140mph because it is quiet.


SubZero

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Aug 23, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/23/95
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gt5...@prism.gatech.edu (Steve Lee) wrote:

>I have a '95 CBR600F3 and was wondering if anyone has any suggestions on
>exhaust slip-ons since I don't like Honda's huge canister. I am looking
>for a smaller canister with a decent-sounding exhaust tone and no rejetting.

>Also, are slip-ons easy to install?

>Any replies are greatly appreciated.

>Steve Lee
>gt5...@prism.gatech.edu

>--
>Steven Alexander Lee
>Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
>uucp: ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt5529b
>Internet: gt5...@prism.gatech.edu

I have a friend of mine who has an F3. He installed a D&D slip-on. I
suggested just a slip on to him because of the engineering behind the
OEM exhaust. He has had great performance out of it. Then again, he's
a racer. He has already won about 5 club races down here at Moroso and
has one first place at Road Atlanta. We rode the bike in the 4 hour
endurance and compared to my California (YuCk!) F2, it was a different
world. Then again, I never tode his bike w/o the D&D so I couldn't
tell you the difference. As for him, he says it is an improvement.
Note: He did have to re-jet his bike with the D&D slip-on installed,
as to be expected. He uses a Factory jet kit but I don't know what
mains.

That's what I know about this. I don't know what sort of riding you
do. If you're a racer, I would suggest the slip-on or maybe even
looking into the getting a Yoshimura Duplex system for it since it
uses the same idea. I beleive this is what the Smokin' Joe Hondas
have on them. If you only ride on the street, take the other guy's
advice. Spend your money on a good set of leathers or even a riding
school. On the street you really won't notice the advantages nor
should you. You could endup kissing the grill of a GMC :)

Just my $0.02 worth...


Eddie!
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Heidi Marcelo

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Aug 25, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/25/95
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holl...@mhv.net wrote:
: In <41at0m$f...@acmex.gatech.edu>, gt5...@prism.gatech.edu (Steve Lee) writes:
:
: It has been shown that by changing the exhaust system on a F3 you get only marginal

: performance gains. The stock system is a well engineered unit and what you get
: by adding an aftermarket system in terms of performance will not off set the ridability
: factor of a pipe and jet kit. When you add a pipe and jet kit, the bike becomes much
: more tempermental when riding in different temperatures.

: As for a slip on it will make only more noise, not more power, espicially on your
: motorcycle.

: I personally would leave it stock and put the money towards a riding school or riding
: leathers as you will be much farther ahead. My bike is stock, and I can out ride most
: people even when they are on larger bikes than me and I never have problems when
: wailing past houses at 140mph because it is quiet.

::::::::: flame is lit :::::::::::

did you know that after market pipes are lighter. did you know when dyno
testing that you can tune your torque and powerband using aftermarket pipes
with jetting and cam timing....

i have 10 dyno charts on my 93 ZX7 from stock to slip on to full race pipes...
also used O2 sensor to average out different race track jettings..
(i've won money on every WERA 50-miler events that i've entered in '94)

i'm now doing the process over again with a '91 F2, So far this is the
results. stock pipe with K&N filter and jetting produced 3hp on top and
also increase throttle response. has better midrange curve than full stock.

stock has 80hp with big dip around 5 rpm. will be adding D&D full pipe next
week and will post results....

also, why outride someone and risk injury when you can add more horsepower
and stay alive? ever since i've spent the time and money for suspension and
horsepower upgrades, i've crashed only once in '94 and about 7 times in
'93 riding a stock bike (been racing about 5 years).

i've never seen a world superbike win on a stock pipe. have you?
i've never seen a superstock bike get pulled by a production bike. have you?
you may outride the bigger bikes but you can't get away...

later....
(i'd rather beat you unfairly than not beat you at all)


MiffMole

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Aug 25, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/25/95
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Steve Lee was obviously refering to the benifits (or lack therof) of new
pipes on a STREETBIKE. Heidi is obviously refering to the benefits of a
RACEBIKE. Anybody who has tuned their racebike for max power and still
claim to have good "rideability" on the street hasn't really tuned their
engine yet.

And quit flaming people for telling a new and interested rider to go to
track school, where he may learn the TRUE MEANING of two wheel speed.

"Can't we all get along?"
-Rodney Somebodyorother


miff

Colin P. Matthews

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Aug 30, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/30/95
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What's wrong with reading the original post....
suggestions for slip-on can with no rejetting.... whats that got to do
with race systems....? Which of course all require filters and jetting
changes.
If you know you are going to get flamed... why start such diatribes...
now I know why I mostly gave up on news groups.
Colin.

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