How Fast???
John J Makel
Is the fastest street legal ride for sale in the states capable of
going? How much HP does it have and who makes it?
How fast is the fastest any of you have been-any in the
150mph club?
Curious mind you as I used to run an XR750 around a track at speeds of
100+mph, but that was in the dirt...
john...
nathaniel joseph lambert
I hit 165 on my FZR1000
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Miguel Asensio
John J Makel wrote:
> Is the fastest street legal ride for sale in the states capable of
> going? How much HP does it have and who makes it?
> How fast is the fastest any of you have been-any in the
> 150mph club?
> Curious mind you as I used to run an XR750 around a track at speeds of
> 100+mph, but that was in the dirt...
>
> john...
Are you the one they called Asshole #3 in rec.motorcycles.harley?
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DOC519
<How fast is the fastest any of you have been-any in the
<150mph club?
<Curious mind you as I used to run an XR750 around a track at <speeds of
<100+mph, but that was in the dirt...
155mph on '95 CBR900RR. I was drafting a buddy on his '96GSXR750 running at
same speed. The draft really helped. I was actually backing off of the
throttle in 6th at only (about) 7000rpm. I could have passed him easily, but
we were running out of room real fast. At that speed the Chatterbox
communicators were simply dead weight. Not only could we not hear each other
speak, but we didn't care to either.
Doc
Jeff
John J Makel wrote:
>
> Is the fastest street legal ride for sale in the states capable of
> going? How much HP does it have and who makes it?
> 150mph club?
> Curious mind you as I used to run an XR750 around a track at speeds of
> 100+mph, but that was in the dirt...
>
170 (indicated) on a built ZX-10. Who the heck knows how fast it really
was with the BS speedos on bikes.
Jeff
Kevin Gleeson
Jeff <jef...@concentric.net> wrote:
265 km/h (165 mph) on a stock CBR1100XX but that was in 5th gear on a
bumpy road with a sharp corner approaching fast. Haven't tried it on a
decent road yet. Tried again on that road to snick it into 6th, but
didn't gain anything as I immediately had to get onto the brakes for
the rapidly approaching 100km/h corner. Went in slightly hot as it was
:-(
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John J Makel
Miguel writes>>>
Excerpts from netnews.rec.motorcycles.racing: 9-Dec-97 Re: How Fast???
Miguel Ase...@us.ibm.co (589*)
> Are you the one they called Asshole #3 in rec.motorcycles.harley?
Why do you ask? And what does it have to do with my question Miguel?
john...
Miguel Asensio
John J Makel wrote:
Just wondering if this was bait from the r.m.h guys... Is it?
Unknown
Guess??
Big Pete
ZZ-R's Rule...OK ! Let us prey.
William C Kellie Jr
In article <19971209235...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
DOC519 <doc...@aol.com> wrote:
>155mph on '95 CBR900RR.
>throttle in 6th at only (about) 7000rpm.
I think not.
Bill
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DOC519
BIll copied PART of my message, then wrote:
>>155mph on '95 CBR900RR.
>>throttle in 6th at only (about) 7000rpm.
>I think not.
>Bill
Bill,
Why do you say this? I was the rider on the CBR. Do you think the bike won't
go that fast, is your bike slower, or are you just afraid to try? The 1995
CBR900RR is capable of a flat surface speed, both directions, of 160MPH. I
took mine to a speed of 155MPH while, like I said, drafting another bike at the
same speed. The other bike was an 1996 SRAD GSXR750, which (to my knowledge)
is capable of even higher speeds. I sort of knew that the person who
originally posted the question of asking others about how fast they have gone
would generate some lifted eyebrows, but come on Bill. 155mph is easily
obtainable, if you have the guts to take it up there. I can easily take my CBR
to 140MPH when I can find room. I have slowed down lately, though. The
thought of a blown head gasket spewing oil all over my rear tire at that speed
scares me. Not to mention a deer or rabbit hopping out in front of me. At any
rate, do you need any more statistics or are you just going to leave it at "I
think not"? Come on, Bill, 155 isn't THAT fast. 8-)
Doc
doc...@aol.com
'95CBR900RR
'72CB500/4
Huggy Bear
Jeff wrote in message <348DE1...@concentric.net>...
>John J Makel wrote:
>>
>> Is the fastest street legal ride for sale in the states capable of
>> going? How much HP does it have and who makes it?
>> How fast is the fastest any of you have been-any in the
>> 150mph club?
>> Curious mind you as I used to run an XR750 around a track at speeds of
>> 100+mph, but that was in the dirt...
165 Indicated on my 94 ZX-6R, obviously not that fast, but it was down hill
slightly, and I was power limited at 10500 rpm.
Huggy
Erik Astrup
On 10 Dec 1997 20:56:40 GMT, doc...@aol.com (DOC519) wrote:
>Come on, Bill, 155 isn't THAT fast. 8-)
Especially if you use your speedo to guage the speed.
155 indicated, is not 155 in the real world.
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Henry Southwood,TYPE=B
DOC519 writes:
> think not"? Come on, Bill, 155 isn't THAT fast. 8-)
>
> Doc
> doc...@aol.com
> '95CBR900RR
> '72CB500/4
I once saw 165mph on the (optimistic?) spedo of my 1987 FZR1000, and I saw
130-140mph on 600-750cc production bikes at the track every lap on limited
straights. 8) So with the proper gearing, 155 should be no problem, especially
on a more powerful and aerodynamic bike. Some stock bikes are getting close
to 180mph (under "ideal" conditions?).
Rusty Southwood
CMRA#342
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Huggy Bear
I've done 170 again indicated, on my 1100. Road tests show 170 is probably
untouchable on a GSX-R 1100, but with the Yosh Pipe, and such, I can hope,
however I can assure you naysayers, I had throttle left.
Huggy.
Never going that fast unless it's on a track again.
1997 GSX-R 1100W
Henry Southwood ; TYPE=B wrote in message ...
Paul Belkus
You are all under arrest.
Paul - 1993 ZX11D (176mph)
1997 916 Strada (161 mph)
John J Makel
Miguele writes>>>
Excerpts from netnews.rec.motorcycles.racing: 10-Dec-97 Re: How Fast???
Miguel Ase...@us.ibm.co (550*)
> Just wondering if this was bait from the r.m.h guys... Is it?
I am from rmh, and used to race professionally, and no it was not bait...
I have been reading about some of the new rides and wanted
a owners viewpoint rather than a rags who are paid by the company that
promotes them...
Thanks...
john...
By the way just how do you know me and why have you gone
to the HD newsgroup?
Michael Guest
hehehe...oh what the hell I'm bored...
Friend's F2 went 175 MPH down the back straight at Road Atlanta according
to the Southeastern Sportbike Assn. radar gun...
*puts his flame proof suit on*
Michael
'89 FZR 400
'88 FZR 400
'89 Hawk GT
William C Kellie Jr
In article <19971210223...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
Daytona12 <dayt...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>I think the bone of contention is 155 mph at only 7000 rpm. Most liter class
>bikes are turning 5000 rpm (+/- 500 rpm) at 85 mph. You claim your bike
>can almost double that with only 2000 additional rpms?? Stock (or anything
>even close to that) says different. And if it's "speedometer indicated" 155
>you're not pulling close to that.
Ah, yes I forgot that for one caveat that I might be mistaken...
You wouldn't be running synthetic oil would you :-)
William C Kellie Jr
In article <EKzyz...@news.boeing.com>,
Henry Southwood,TYPE=B <hcs...@rs199215.ks.boeing.com> wrote:
>DOC519 writes:
>
>I once saw 165mph on the (optimistic?) spedo of my 1987 FZR1000, and I saw
>130-140mph on 600-750cc production bikes at the track every lap on limited
>straights. 8) So with the proper gearing, 155 should be no problem, especially
>on a more powerful and aerodynamic bike. Some stock bikes are getting close
>to 180mph (under "ideal" conditions?).
What's that downhill, tailwind... good karma??
sheesh.
Erik Astrup
On 11 Dec 1997 15:43:41 GMT, cor...@arches.uga.edu (Michael Guest)
wrote:
>Friend's F2 went 175 MPH down the back straight at Road Atlanta according
>to the Southeastern Sportbike Assn. radar gun...
HRC would like to speak to your friend. Seems he knows
something they don't.
Janet Gunn
Daytona12
Janet replied to the 155mph at 7000rpm statement with:
>From: Janet Gunn <jg...@ix.netcom.com>
>Or changed the sprockets.
Janet, I don't think a relatively stock (even with carb work and a nice pipe)
CBR900 creates enuff power at 7000 rpm to enable that bike to pull 155 even if
he had changed gearing that would physically allow it.
Ok, let's hear from some other CBR900 riders: At 7000 rpm in top gear what is
your speedo indicating? (and don't come back with 165!!!!) <g>
Jim
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Janet Gunn
In article <19971211190...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
dayt...@aol.com (Daytona12) wrote:
>Janet replied to the 155mph at 7000rpm statement with:
>>From: Janet Gunn <jg...@ix.netcom.com>
>
>>Or changed the sprockets.
>
>Janet, I don't think a relatively stock (even with carb work and a nice pipe)
>CBR900 creates enuff power at 7000 rpm to enable that bike to pull 155 even if
>he had changed gearing that would physically allow it.
You are probably right (I don't pay much attention to street bike performance),
but someone appeared to be claiming that the ratio between rpm and mph was fixed.
More on topic, either last year or the year before, AHRMA ran a radar gun
at start/finish at Daytona. I know most of the bikes in Open Twins, and
many of the bikes in F1 Twins, were over 150mph. I know my father
(in his late 60's) on his ('91 I think) Ducati 888 went 156mph.
But of course, those are not street bikes.
Janet Gunn
slowcarfasterbike
>hehehe...oh what the hell I'm bored...
>
>Friend's F2 went 175 MPH down the back straight at Road Atlanta according
>to the Southeastern Sportbike Assn. radar gun...
>
> *puts his flame proof suit on*
No flames from me. Sounds pretty typical for a radar gun reading.
The same thing happens to the cop standing at the side of the road...
he clocks you at 80 mph when you were truly doing 60. ;-)
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Erik Astrup (eas...@mother.com) wrote:
: On 11 Dec 1997 15:43:41 GMT, cor...@arches.uga.edu (Michael Guest)
: wrote:
:
: >Friend's F2 went 175 MPH down the back straight at Road Atlanta according
: >to the Southeastern Sportbike Assn. radar gun...
: HRC would like to speak to your friend. Seems he knows
: something they don't.
:
:
:
Actually probably not, more than likely they already know how to stuff a
900rr motor in a F2 chassis with a F3 front end;) *duck*
Michael
Erik Astrup
On 11 Dec 1997 19:04:07 GMT, dayt...@aol.com (Daytona12) wrote:
>Ok, let's hear from some other CBR900 riders: At 7000 rpm in top gear what is
>your speedo indicating? (and don't come back with 165!!!!) <g>
Hmm..Well, on my 93 RR I think 65 indicated was like 4500rpm.
7k and 165 mph? Not a chance.
Richard Hill
John J Makel wrote:
>
> Is the fastest street legal ride for sale in the states capable of
> going? How much HP does it have and who makes it?
> How fast is the fastest any of you have been-any in the
> 150mph club?
> Curious mind you as I used to run an XR750 around a track at speeds of
> 100+mph, but that was in the dirt...
>
I can't stand it ...
I'm not a 150mph clubber, but the best I can claim is ...
10000RPM 'indicated' <g>, 16/40 sprockets (stock is 15/40), using an
Excel spreadsheet with the final internal gearing ratios, based upon the
radius of my tires estimated ...
136mph on my RD350.
Had some EX and Hawk pilots raising their eyebrows.
Not bad for a 1/3 liter class motor :)
However in the late 60's they were hitting 160mph+ at Daytona on a
similar bike (350cc TR3).
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I have a 93 ZX-11 D that was clocked by a certified calibration MPH
radar unit at 182 mph. It has a Muzzy Lite pipe, Dynojet kit and K&N
filter and a PowerPak. Otherwise it's completely stock. It dynoed
147 hp and 85 lbs/ft torque at the rear wheel at Daytona in 96.
Huggy Bear
No idea about gearing, but my friend has a 96 RR, and when I was doing 165
indicated on my 6R, he passed, me at what he said was 180 on the speedo....
Huggy
1997 GSX-R 1100W
Daytona12 wrote in message
<19971211190...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
>Janet replied to the 155mph at 7000rpm statement with:
>>From: Janet Gunn <jg...@ix.netcom.com>
>
>>Or changed the sprockets.
>
>Janet, I don't think a relatively stock (even with carb work and a nice
pipe)
>CBR900 creates enuff power at 7000 rpm to enable that bike to pull 155
even if
>he had changed gearing that would physically allow it.
>
is
>your speedo indicating? (and don't come back with 165!!!!) <g>
>
FZZR
HHMM.. I can't ever say how fast I was going because you all know how these
motorcycle speedometers get off the faster you go. But I was at a indicated
150MPH on my FZR 1000 when because of a broken up road the front in started to
shake so I definently backed off.
FZZR
Larry I. Wallerstein
I bought the 96 900 RR. It did 196 mph at 5,000 rpm. That's why I
sold it.
In real life, I never saw an indicated speed of above 155 on the road,
and that was at 9,000 rpm. Stock gearing.
On the T595 with a larger engine, but similar horsepower, 155 indicated
takes over 10,000 rpm. Lowered one tooth in front, up two in the back.
Regards,
Larry
97 T595
In <34996ecd....@news.internetmci.com> eas...@mother.com (Erik
Astrup) writes:
>
>On 11 Dec 1997 19:04:07 GMT, dayt...@aol.com (Daytona12) wrote:
>
>>Ok, let's hear from some other CBR900 riders: At 7000 rpm in top
gear what is
>>your speedo indicating? (and don't come back with 165!!!!) <g>
>
>Hmm..Well, on my 93 RR I think 65 indicated was like 4500rpm.
>7k and 165 mph? Not a chance.
>
>
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I hit an indicated 160MPH, rock steady, once on my '94 ZX9R with stock
gearing. Couldn't tell you the rpms, I was too busy watching the road. Raced a
Camaro RR up to 150 and have hit 140 too many times. That first year of owning
the bike was insane. Never go over 100 now on the road.
On the track I've gotten up to about 45mph. The straights at the track
aren't long enough to hit the top speed of about 68mph of my modified YSR.
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TedJ101
>Ok, let's hear from some other CBR900 riders: At 7000 rpm in top gear what
>is
>your speedo indicating? (and don't come back with 165!!!!) <g>
165 <G>? Actually it's about 110 on a '97. The bike turns 3850 at 60 MPH
according to Honda and that is more or less confirmed by my speedometer
(actually I read a couple of MPH above that at 3850 which is probably the
speedo error at that point)...
Regards,
<<TED>>
Daytona12
In my quest for an *honest* CBR900RR rider I had asked:
>Ok, let's hear from some other CBR900 riders: At 7000 rpm in top gear what
>>is your speedo indicating? (and don't come back with 165!!!!) <g>
Oh my GOD! I have FOUND such an individual!!!
>From: ted...@aol.com (TedJ101)
>165 <G>? Actually it's about 110 on a '97. The bike turns 3850 at 60 MPH
>according to Honda and that is more or less confirmed by my speedometer
>(actually I read a couple of MPH above that at 3850 which is probably the
>speedo error at that point)...
There we have it! REALITY for once! Now, would the individual who claims
155 at a mere 7000rpm please check yourself into the nearest psychiatric
hospital? Your delusions are honestly getting out of hand! <g>
Jim
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William C Kellie Jr
In article <66p1nd$8f3$2...@cronkite.cc.uga.edu>,
>to the Southeastern Sportbike Assn. radar gun...
Currently using automated bait sniffer...
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Flamebait! Do not bite!
Humph! Nice try!
Bill
>
> *puts his flame proof suit on*
> Michael
> '89 FZR 400
> '88 FZR 400
> '89 Hawk GT
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Michael Guest
TedJ101 (ted...@aol.com) wrote:
: >Ok, let's hear from some other CBR900 riders: At 7000 rpm in top gear what
: >is
: >your speedo indicating? (and don't come back with 165!!!!) <g>
: 165 <G>? Actually it's about 110 on a '97. The bike turns 3850 at 60 MPH
: according to Honda and that is more or less confirmed by my speedometer
: (actually I read a couple of MPH above that at 3850 which is probably the
: speedo error at that point)...
:
: Regards,
: <<TED>>
as an aside....would it be possible to gear a 900rr to run 165 at 7 grand?
I mean that would be one small rear and one large countershaft...
I imagine it would but you would have like a 20 tooth rear....
Michael
chris geary
l...@ix.netcom.com(Larry I. Wallerstein) wrote:
>I bought the 96 900 RR. It did 196 mph at 5,000 rpm. That's why I
>sold it.
196?
did ja sell it to NASA, or to a museum.
that's one fast fireblade..
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you have to suck too...."
TedJ101
>as an aside....would it be possible to gear a 900rr to run 165 at 7 grand?
>I mean that would be one small rear and one large countershaft...
>I imagine it would but you would have like a 20 tooth rear....
Why you would want to, I don't know, but based on the power curve, no way. 165
(true MPH) is really pushing it on an RR (and the average one will not do that
with an owner rider). It needs every ounce of power it can get to make it to
that sort of figure (and a very small rider who knows quite a bit about
aerodynamics). It just doesn't make that much at 7000...
Regards,
<<TED>>
Dan
John J Makel wrote in message <4oXO04O00...@andrew.cmu.edu>...
>Is the fastest street legal ride for sale in the states capable of
>going? How much HP does it have and who makes it?
>How fast is the fastest any of you have been-any in the
>150mph club?
>Curious mind you as I used to run an XR750 around a track at speeds of
>100+mph, but that was in the dirt...
>
I got back from a ride today, and was able to hold my stock VTR at an
indicated 280kmh for 8-10 minutes on a *real* long straight, and a mate on a
96 cbr900rr went past me at an indicated 290kmh. His old man has an
identical 900rr and hit 297kmh indictaed with a tail wind. I think the
280kmh indicated is about 260kmh in real speed....
(you can do the kmh-mph conversions yourselves)
Dan :-)
VTR1000F - One of my two girlfriends