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Pscribbles

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Dec 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/12/98
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For sale NSR500, not street leagel, best GP racing bike. Only raced twice,
very rare make offer.

D & D

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Dec 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/12/98
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I'll offer you 1 sheep 2 chickens and a porkbutt

David Tobey

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Dec 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/12/98
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Pscribbles wrote:

> For sale NSR500, not street leagel, best GP racing bike. Only raced twice,
> very rare make offer.

Do you have any racing documentation?

Where has it been raced, how many times has it been down, how many hours are on
the engine in it's current low end top end configuration?

Pic's?

Where are you located?

Where did you get the bike from?

Thanks,
DT


Ryan John Cousineau

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Dec 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/12/98
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David Tobey <drup...@home.com> writes:

>Pscribbles wrote:

>Pic's?

>Where are you located?

>Thanks,
>DT

On a side note, an NSR500 was recently stolen from a display that Honda
Canada put on (brought in a '97 NSR for the 50th anniversary celebrations,
and it disappeared).

I'm not going to claim that this is that bike, but when the guy says very
rare, he's bang on. I don't think anyone outside of Honda owns a recent NSR
four, (I believe even the racing teams lease them) so I'd sure want to
check the provenance of this $50,000-odd bike before writing a cheque.
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Julian Bond

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Dec 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/12/98
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FWIW, somebody's selling 4*NSR500V at UKP30,000 each in the UK along
with a transporter and spares kits.

Make a cracking road bike...

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mo...@shift.ne.jp

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Dec 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/13/98
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In article <19981211213154...@ng08.aol.com>,

pscri...@aol.com (Pscribbles) wrote:
> For sale NSR500, not street leagel, best GP racing bike. Only raced twice,
> very rare make offer.

Well...

If it's an NSR500V,
it isn't best GP racing bike, and it isn't very rare.

If it's KYOSHO's NSR500,
it's a radio-control machine :-(

If it's TAMIYA's, ONYX's or HASEGAWA's NSR500,
it could not race :-P

If it's TOMY's NSR500, please e-mail me :-)
HAHAHA!

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Dec 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/13/98
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A for a road bike, just for kicks, how would a fully street legal (or barely
street legal if you must) NSR500 go up against a stock Yamaha R1? I would
think the Yamaha would be lighter and faster than the NSR500. Any ideas?


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Evan Williams

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mod...@mindspring.com wrote in message
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>A for a road bike, just for kicks, how would a fully street legal (or
barely
>street legal if you must) NSR500 go up against a stock Yamaha R1? I would
>think the Yamaha would be lighter and faster than the NSR500. Any ideas?


The Honda V4 has at least 180 hp, probably more and weighs 286 pounds. The
Yamaha? I'm not sure but it probably has 135 hp and weighs about 400 lbs
wet.

racer

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mod...@mindspring.com wrote in message
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>A for a road bike, just for kicks, how would a fully street legal (or
barely
>street legal if you must) NSR500 go up against a stock Yamaha R1? I would
>think the Yamaha would be lighter and faster than the NSR500. Any ideas

You would think that a streetbike with lights, alternator, steel rims etc.
would be lighter than a purpose-built Formula One machine brimming with
magnesium, titanium and carbon-fiber??!?

I can only assume you made a typo there pal! :)

For performance comparison's sake, Cycle Canada once tested one of the old
Honda triples. I think it did low-10s in the quarter mile. The new fours
have about 50-60 more hp, and have been clocked at 200mph at Hockenheim.

Gord

Lunatic Fringe

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Dec 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/13/98
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You are kidding aren't you?


mod...@mindspring.com wrote in message
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>A for a road bike, just for kicks, how would a fully street legal (or
barely
>street legal if you must) NSR500 go up against a stock Yamaha R1? I would

Julian Bond

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In article <7516ac$m8r$1...@camel15.mindspring.com>, mod...@mindspring.com
writes

>A for a road bike, just for kicks, how would a fully street legal (or barely
>street legal if you must) NSR500 go up against a stock Yamaha R1? I would
>think the Yamaha would be lighter and faster than the NSR500. Any ideas?

>130Hp, 110Kg. I think it would be a little lighter, quicker and faster,
don't you?

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Andrew Webber

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Dec 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/14/98
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In article <7516ac$m8r$1...@camel15.mindspring.com>, <mod...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>A for a road bike, just for kicks, how would a fully street legal (or barely
>street legal if you must) NSR500 go up against a stock Yamaha R1? I would
>think the Yamaha would be lighter and faster than the NSR500. Any ideas?
>
>
R1 lighter than NSR500... don't think so
R1 will have a higher top speed, but I'm sure the NSR would have better
acceleration.

Graham Byrnes

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Dec 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/14/98
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These would have to be NSR500V's... the twins. The 4's are never sold, only
leased to teams.

In which case the half-dry weight (ready to go except for fuel) is 109kg.
I'd guess that in similar trim, an R1 would come in at 190kg at least. By stripping all the
road gear and adding some light weight brackets and fairings, you might get down
below the SBK weight limit, to maybe 155kg.

As a roadbike, I'm afraid the NSR would be a dog. Jack-hammer suspension,
ridiculously close ratio gearbox, CF brakes that don't work when cold, mind
boggling consumption of mega-dollar race fuel and 500km between rebuilds.

No thanks.

Graham

mod...@mindspring.com

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Dec 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/14/98
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I'm talking about the street version of the NSR500 (is there one?).


Lunatic Fringe wrote in message <751qhv$imf$1...@news1.epix.net>...


>You are kidding aren't you?
>
>
>mod...@mindspring.com wrote in message
><7516ac$m8r$1...@camel15.mindspring.com>...

>>A for a road bike, just for kicks, how would a fully street legal (or
>barely
>>street legal if you must) NSR500 go up against a stock Yamaha R1? I would
>>think the Yamaha would be lighter and faster than the NSR500. Any ideas?
>>
>>

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>>Julian Bond wrote in message ...
>>>FWIW, somebody's selling 4*NSR500V at UKP30,000 each in the UK along
>>>with a transporter and spares kits.
>>>
>>>Make a cracking road bike...
>>>

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Erik Astrup

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On Mon, 14 Dec 1998 04:01:56 GMT, and...@nospam.galaxycom.net.nz
(Andrew Webber) wrote:

>R1 lighter than NSR500... don't think so
>R1 will have a higher top speed, but I'm sure the NSR would have better
>acceleration.

The R1 would have a higher top speed? What?

Wasn't that Okada doing 201 mph some years ago on the NSR at
Hockenheim?

R1. Pfffth. Like comparing a Nascar to an F1 car.


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The Home Office Center (Roque Torres)

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Dec 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/14/98
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mod...@mindspring.com wrote:

> I'm talking about the street version of the NSR500 (is there one?).

Oh boy, you really don't know.

Why are you making comments about a subject that you obviously
have no knowledge of?

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Andrew Webber

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Dec 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/15/98
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In article <369f5fff....@news.mci2000.com>, eas...@mother.com wrote:
>On Mon, 14 Dec 1998 04:01:56 GMT, and...@nospam.galaxycom.net.nz
>(Andrew Webber) wrote:
>
>>R1 lighter than NSR500... don't think so
>>R1 will have a higher top speed, but I'm sure the NSR would have better
>>acceleration.
>
>The R1 would have a higher top speed? What?
>
>Wasn't that Okada doing 201 mph some years ago on the NSR at
>Hockenheim?
>
>R1. Pfffth. Like comparing a Nascar to an F1 car.
>
>
The road version of NSR500?

Erik Astrup

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Dec 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/15/98
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On Tue, 15 Dec 1998 01:06:29 GMT, and...@nospam.galaxycom.net.nz
(Andrew Webber) wrote:

>In article <369f5fff....@news.mci2000.com>, eas...@mother.com wrote:
>>On Mon, 14 Dec 1998 04:01:56 GMT, and...@nospam.galaxycom.net.nz
>>(Andrew Webber) wrote:
>>
>>>R1 lighter than NSR500... don't think so
>>>R1 will have a higher top speed, but I'm sure the NSR would have better
>>>acceleration.
>>
>>The R1 would have a higher top speed? What?
>>
>>Wasn't that Okada doing 201 mph some years ago on the NSR at
>>Hockenheim?
>>
>>R1. Pfffth. Like comparing a Nascar to an F1 car.
>>
>>
>The road version of NSR500?

What "road version" ????????

mo...@shift.ne.jp

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Dec 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/15/98
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In article <369f5fff....@news.mci2000.com>,
eas...@mother.com wrote:
>
> The R1 would have a higher top speed? What?
>
> Wasn't that Okada doing 201 mph some years ago on the NSR at
> Hockenheim?
>
> R1. Pfffth. Like comparing a Nascar to an F1 car.

I have no objection to your opinion,
although doing 201 mph was not Okada
but Shin'ichi Itoh.

Rich

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Dec 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/15/98
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I often chuckle when someone compares a all out race bike against a
street bike. Apples and oranges! The R1 couldn't hope to keep up in
a short race but would dominate in an endurance race (which is why the
GP bikes never run very long races). As far as the street goes, the
R1 would dominate as soon as the two stopped to get gas at the local
gas station! (What do you mean you don't have exotic race fuel? What
kind of a gas station is this anyway?!?!). Of course if you could
afford a NSR in the first place you could probably have a fuel truck
waiting for you....

Getting back to the original post, if this guys has a NSR for sale
it's either very old or very stolen. You make the call......

Rich
91' FZR600

Rich
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Car...@earthlink.net

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Dec 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/15/98
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Interestingly, the VP fuels website lists an 89 octane lead free gas as what
they supply to GP racers (undoubtedly loaded with plenty of other additives,
though).

Ryan John Cousineau

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Dec 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/16/98
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iam...@yuckgte.net (Rich) writes:

>I often chuckle when someone compares a all out race bike against a
>street bike. Apples and oranges! The R1 couldn't hope to keep up in
>a short race but would dominate in an endurance race (which is why the

>GP bikes never run very long races). As far as the street goes, the


>R1 would dominate as soon as the two stopped to get gas at the local
>gas station! (What do you mean you don't have exotic race fuel? What
>kind of a gas station is this anyway?!?!). Of course if you could
>afford a NSR in the first place you could probably have a fuel truck
>waiting for you....

Well, IIRC, a typical GP runs about 45 minutes or so. That's hardly a
sprint.

NSRs have a very specific mission in life: be the fastest 500cc
road-course motorcycles in the world, and do it for an hour or so.

As you rightly point out, an R1 is a way different animal, and a more
suitable road bike (if only just :). But the original poster was foolishly
suggesting that an NSR might be slower or otherwise an inferior track bike
to an R1. For that he was roundly mocked and corrected. an NSR is quicker,
faster, and corners faster than an R1 (though to be fair, the 250s and 500
twins can carry more corner speed than the 500 fours). Put Mick Doohan on a
supersport-prepped R1 and he would be left for dead in half a lap (less at
Suzuka :).

For me, I'm still waiting for a turbine-powered bike. Does anyone know if
there's anywhere to get those "build a turbine on a milling lathe!" plans
that used to be advertised in the back of Popular Mechanics? Better yet,
anyone know of a souce for lightweight non-aviation-grade turbines? I think
a 50 lb. Turbine would look really cute nestled between my FZR's frame
spars, and with time I'm sure I could solve the exhaust-routing problems.

>Getting back to the original post, if this guys has a NSR for sale
>it's either very old or very stolen. You make the call......

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Evan Williams

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Dec 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/16/98
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Rich wrote in message <3676f307...@nntp.concentric.net>...

>Getting back to the original post, if this guys has a NSR for sale
>it's either very old or very stolen. You make the call......
>

)
naah, its probably just a V-twin. There are some around!
Are y'all a little disappoited in the twin. We were lead to believe it was
to be a modern day Norton Manx, fairly competitive hardware anyone could
buy.

Tom Godon

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Dec 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/16/98
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NSR 500's have been clocked at 200MPH at Hockenheim, If you really could get your
hands on one the R1 wouldn't stand a chance!

Andrew Webber wrote:

> In article <7516ac$m8r$1...@camel15.mindspring.com>, <mod...@mindspring.com> wrote:

> >A for a road bike, just for kicks, how would a fully street legal (or barely
> >street legal if you must) NSR500 go up against a stock Yamaha R1? I would
> >think the Yamaha would be lighter and faster than the NSR500. Any ideas?
> >
> >

> R1 lighter than NSR500... don't think so
> R1 will have a higher top speed, but I'm sure the NSR would have better
> acceleration.

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gun...@imap1.asu.edu

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Dec 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/18/98
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What ever happened to the NSR 500 that was stolen from a Museum?


On Sat, 12 Dec 1998, David Tobey wrote:

>
>
> Pscribbles wrote:
>
> > For sale NSR500, not street leagel, best GP racing bike. Only raced twice,
> > very rare make offer.
>

> Do you have any racing documentation?
>
> Where has it been raced, how many times has it been down, how many hours are on
> the engine in it's current low end top end configuration?
>
> Pic's?
>
> Where are you located?
>
> Where did you get the bike from?
>
> Thanks,
> DT
>
>
>

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Malcolm Campbell

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Dec 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/19/98
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Tom Godon wrote:

Given a little time to set the two stroke up for bumpier road conditions it would eat
anything alive!
They dont call them the fastest bikes on earth for nothing you know.


No SPAM Mark Gardiner

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Dec 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/19/98
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Actually in issue4 motorcycle racer magazine in the uk there is 4
NSR500V machines for sale from £30,000 neg+vat.

Fred

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Dec 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/20/98
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THERE WAS ONE STOLEN IN TORONTO A FEW MONTHS AGO

FRED

Rich wrote:

> I often chuckle when someone compares a all out race bike against a
> street bike. Apples and oranges! The R1 couldn't hope to keep up in
> a short race but would dominate in an endurance race (which is why the
> GP bikes never run very long races). As far as the street goes, the
> R1 would dominate as soon as the two stopped to get gas at the local
> gas station! (What do you mean you don't have exotic race fuel? What
> kind of a gas station is this anyway?!?!). Of course if you could
> afford a NSR in the first place you could probably have a fuel truck
> waiting for you....
>

> Getting back to the original post, if this guys has a NSR for sale
> it's either very old or very stolen. You make the call......
>

Kathleen Corgan

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Dec 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/24/98
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>R1. Pfffth. Like comparing a Nascar to an F1 car.

More like comparing a Nascar to the Thrust SSC. Not even in the same league.

BTW, with all these posts and what we know about the stolen NSR from Toronto, where is
PScribbles, the guy who originally posted 4-sale? It's kinda' funny that in the midst of
all the chat comparing apples to oranges, we potentially lost a chance to recover a stolen
bike.

PScribbles, what the dilly-yo?

Kath Corgan
kat...@mindspring.com
NYC
'95 900sscr

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