I've got the option to buy the new Fatboy 3D Radical paint set black
with flame and if you've seen the 2005 parts catalog or the HD website
of the custom fatboy there is a picture of this bike totally chromed
out, lowered, with drag bars. That's the dream.
Am I an idiot or what? The conservative side of me says to go with
the Road King Classic or Custom (I like the beach bars and lower ride
height), but my alter ego says go with the Fatboy for $8 - 10,000
extra with all the add on goods. My question really is am I going to
be a wreck worrying about people stealing it, am I going to feel too
beat up after a 250 mile ride, is the vibration on the Road King going
to be an issue in stop and go? I'm 43 years old. At this time in my
life do I need to forget the kid (Flame, chromed, Fatboy) and get a
grown up bike (Road King)? Although my wife would disagree, money
isn't an issue.
Can I please have your opionion one more time? This is driving me
nuts and I'm losing sleep.
Heh! Remember when you were 17 and you lost sleep over the girls in
school?
Sounds like you've just about hammered the analysis - you've considered
the pros and cons of each and you've acknowledged that the fat boy makes
your naughty parts tingle ...
Here's a few more things to consider. Is this your first bike? Then
take two steps back and consider a smaller beater till you have your
chops. Been riding awhile and you're ready for a heavy bike? Are you
really only going to take an occasional 250 mi ride? Or, might you
extend that to some 1000 mi overnighters - if you're comfortable doing
so? Do you want a bike with a suspension that is a compromise between
handling and style? Or one that will leave you feeling good at the end
of the day? How long are you going to keep this bike? A year or two?
Or, till you're getting closer to 50 and your bones are getting tired?
Do you really want to pay $10 grand extra for someone else's vision of a
"custom" bike? Or might you be able to put that $10k towards achieving
*your* vision?
Am I leading you down a path? You betcha. And I'm being kind. Others
may rib you for wanting a fat boy so bad ... They've achieved cliche'
status in these parts.
IMHO, YMMV, Yada, yada, yada ... Go for the Road King (or even an EG) -
the vibrations at idle won't torment you - Then spend the extra 10K to
make it look the way *you* want. Put a little effort into making it
convertable so you have a hot rod around town, but you can slap the
windshield and extra luggage on for those long trips to NetScum IRLs.
Get a comfortable seat.
Howsomever, if you want a bike that looks pretty much like everyone
else's, and you're just going to ride it to the dealer on Saturdays to
hook up with the local Hogs ... Definately get the Fat Boy!
Shit! There I go, and I was trying to be kind ....
Lemme fill your coffee cup and give you something to read to take your
mind off all this. Check this out, www.rmhfaq.com, then come back and
introduce yourself.
--
Chilly
BS#226 DOF#55 GLANS MANS SENS
04 FLHTCi "Night"
www.chilly-willy.net
> I've read all the posts I can find about the differences between a
> Road King and Fatboy.
Good for you!
> Most of my riding is going to be 100 miles or
> less, but occassionally I might want to go up to the mountains which
> would be about 250 miles round trip on some interstate. I think for
> the most part it will be just me, around town, stop and go, or out on
> some back roads where my speed will be between 50 - 65.
OK - if that make you happy...
> I've got the option to buy the new Fatboy 3D Radical paint set black
> with flame and if you've seen the 2005 parts catalog or the HD website
> of the custom fatboy there is a picture of this bike totally chromed
> out, lowered, with drag bars. That's the dream.
OK - if that make you happy...
> Am I an idiot or what?
Never ask a question, you don't already know the answer to.
> The conservative side of me says to go with
> the Road King Classic or Custom (I like the beach bars and lower ride
> height), but my alter ego says go with the Fatboy for $8 - 10,000
> extra with all the add on goods.
> My question really is am I going to be a wreck worrying about people
> stealing it,
I don't know - are you that type of person?
> am I going to feel too beat up after a 250 mile ride,
I don't know - how far are you comfortable riding now?
> is the vibration on the Road King going to be an issue in stop and go?
I doubt it.
> I'm 43 years old.
Congratulations!
> At this time in my life do I need to forget the kid (Flame, chromed,
> Fatboy) and get a grown up bike (Road King)?
No motorcycle purchase is about "what should I do", it's about "what do I
want - what will make me happy". You should know your riding style best,
you should know what you want in a bike (luggage, wind protection, ground
clearance, two up comfort, etc...). I picked one of the two bikes you are
looking at, for reasons that make sense to me - asking others to choose
for you will not help.
> Although my wife would disagree, money isn't an issue.
You better factor in a nice gift for her in your purchase price.
>
> Can I please have your opionion one more time? This is driving me
> nuts and I'm losing sleep.
I think you need to read the RMHfaq at...
Buy a few rounds - look at as many bikes as you can, ride as many as you
can, and ask yourself "What is important about this motorcycle to me?".
In the end, if it doesn't put the biggest grin on your face everytime you
see it, everytime you throw a leg over it - it's the wrong bike.
Take care,
Bob
~~~~~~~~~~~
No straight lines make up my life, and all my roads have bends.
There's no clear-cut beginnings, and so far no dead-ends.
Harry Chapin
I suspect both would be fine for this type of riding, so if money's not an
object then sit on them both and see which one gives you the bigger smile.
Ideally you would ride both, if you can find a dealer willing to accommodate
this. Personally I like the Road King, but the Fat Boy is the most popular
model, so it comes down to personal taste.
--
Tud
AH#115 SENS BS#111 LFS#32 FLF MISFIT
'70 Triumph T120R Chopper "The Death Trap"
'72 Triumph T100R project
'74 Honda CB550Four "The Reliable One"
http://ah115.com
Which one gives you a woody? Buy that one and forget everything else.
--
.boB
1997 HD FXDWG - Turbocharged!
2001 Dodge Dakota QC 5.9/4x4/3.92
1983 GMC Jimmy - Mountain Beater
1966 Mustang Coupe - Daily Driver
1966 FFR Cobra - Ongoing project
Uh...well...
> The conservative side of me says to go with
> the Road King Classic or Custom (I like the beach bars and lower ride
> height), but my alter ego says go with the Fatboy for $8 - 10,000
> extra with all the add on goods.
Hey, I'm not a catalogue looker - but it would seem you could buy a
regular FB and mod it yourself and have your own unique bike.
> My question really is am I going to
> be a wreck worrying about people stealing it, am I going to feel too
> beat up after a 250 mile ride, is the vibration on the Road King going
> to be an issue in stop and go? I'm 43 years old. At this time in my
> life do I need to forget the kid (Flame, chromed, Fatboy) and get a
> grown up bike (Road King)? Although my wife would disagree, money
> isn't an issue.
If money isn't an issue, why'd you opt not to buy drinks and send Eddie
III a cool mil?
> Can I please have your opionion one more time? This is driving me
> nuts and I'm losing sleep.
If you're losing sleep over this, I must be nibbling bait. The RK will
go anywhere a FB will go and can be tricked into a handsome, low riding
thunder maker as easily as the FB. The FB just has "the look". The RK
has "look" and "ride".
And, if someone can ride a sporty several hundred miles - you can ride a
fatty 250.
--
JMark
L03H45-004
Ditch the FAD Boy....as stated earlier, those are cliche anymore. The Roadie
is your best choice and you get a neet-o windshield to boot. Its called a FAD
boy for a reason....the fad is over. As for spending the extra
8-10K....someone once said something about a fool and his money....
Peace
Dict
00FXDWG
05FLHTC
> Ditch the FAD Boy....as stated earlier, those are cliche anymore. The
> Roadie is your best choice and you get a neet-o windshield to boot.
> Its called a FAD boy for a reason....the fad is over.
He's right about that. All the guys who bought into the Fat Boy as a fad
are moving on to Road Kings now.
--
Spunky
What are you basing these figures on, current riding habits or
guesstimates?
> I've got the option to buy the new Fatboy 3D Radical paint set black
> with flame and if you've seen the 2005 parts catalog or the HD website
> of the custom fatboy there is a picture of this bike totally chromed
> out, lowered, with drag bars. That's the dream.
>
> Am I an idiot or what? The conservative side of me says to go with
> the Road King Classic or Custom (I like the beach bars and lower ride
> height), but my alter ego says go with the Fatboy for $8 - 10,000
> extra with all the add on goods. My question really is am I going to
> be a wreck worrying about people stealing it,
No one here is going to be able to answer that question. If you're the
type to worry, you'll worry.
> am I going to feel too
> beat up after a 250 mile ride, is the vibration on the Road King going
> to be an issue in stop and go?
That vibration is a plus, in my book.
> I'm 43 years old.
How many of those years have you been riding?
> At this time in my
> life do I need to forget the kid (Flame, chromed, Fatboy) and get a
> grown up bike (Road King)? Although my wife would disagree, money
> isn't an issue.
>
If money isn't an issue, buy both. (And why care if it gets stolen? Just
buy another.)
> Can I please have your opionion one more time? This is driving me
> nuts and I'm losing sleep.
Losing sleep? Over this? Buy the damn bike you like. And ride it often.
--
Mike | I can picture in my mind a world without war, a
'04 FLHTCUI | world without hate. And I can picture us attacking
| that world, because they'd never expect it.
LOL - Fucking excellent!
dp
> I've read all the posts I can find about the differences between a
> Road King and Fatboy.
>
> (snip)
>
> Can I please have your opionion one more time? This is driving me
> nuts and I'm losing sleep.
Hi Wade,
First, there's no need to go nuts or lose sleep. Can you imagine what
the other folks on the Group W bench at your local mental health center
will think, with you babbling on about Touring vs Softail, engine guard
vs no engine guard, saddlebags vs no saddlebags, passing lamps vs no
passing lamps, windshield vs no windshield, TC88 vs TC88B?
Of the nine responses to your message that I've seen so far, several
have had good suggestions. I have another: try them both.
Your dealer will likely _not_ allow "test rides." This subject has been
beaten to death here, and dealers don't change their minds because
people in a newsgroup want them to do so.
However, be on the alert for Demo Days at your local dealer, or at a
rally, or when the International Motorcycle Show comes to your area.
This doesn't happen every day, but might be the golden opportunity for
you to try one of each.
And consider renting. Before I bought my Explorer, I rented one for a
weekend. It was an excellent want to see if it had the things I needed.
If there's a rental place in your vicinity, rent one bike one day and
another the next. Or ride one for a weekend and the other the next
weekend. You _might_ be able to talk them into a special deal for
renting two bikes, who knows.
We, the collective, will not be able to choose which bike _you_ like
best, nor can we, the collective, be responsible if _we_ choose one that
_you_ don't like.
Hang at the dealer, ask other riders. Most riders are usually happy to
tell you about their bike; what they like, what they don't like, what
they're glad they did, and they would have done differently. But it's
still your decision.
Good luck putting all the input together and coming up with a bike!
Dave S.
1996 FLHR-I Road King (which I like a lot)
BS#146, DOF#181, NEWT#4, KOTOR#1, SENS, CVNS G&W, DOF # 6021, ARSE
--
dave6592 [at] accesscom [dot] com - http://www.accesscom.com/~dave6592
Dave Schultheis, San José, Silicon Valley, Santa Clara County, CA, USA
Big Dale
Get what you like!!!! don't let anyone here tell you what is a fad, or whats
"cool" now, ya ain't buyin a shirt...go with your gut...this ain't a
reasonable purchase decision..its about fun!! so ride the fucker' you
can always sell ..and buy..and sell.... just have fun and ride safe!!!!
Jeez, dude. Don't be so hard on my Fatboy ;-)
Coming from a 750 rice burner and moving UP to a Fatboy, I am walking
around with a smile and enjoying every minute I'm on the bike (that is
not to say I didn't enjoy the 60k+ miles I put on the Magna). To me
it is a sweet compromise because I have removeable windshield and
saddlebags. Take them off to ride around town (most of my riding) put
them on for the occasional longer ride. I do recommend getting a
comfortable seat, it is the Fatboys weakest link. Many have commented
about the suspension (sacrifices handling) and the solid wheels
(subject to wind shear), but it has not bothered me one iota. I do
agree that if my riding was mostly longer distances I would have
probably gone with the RK or EG.
Lets have a drink now, I'll buy...SHIRLEY...oops, sorry didn't mean to
scream so loudly.
SloPe
I appreciate everyone's responses. This afternoon I was able to test
ride both the Fatboy and the Road King (My local dealer has been
terrific about me trying these out). I spent about 30 minutes on each
one, and my feeling was the Road King was very smooth and comfortable,
but maybe a little too comfortable for what I'm looking for (I'm not
50 yet). The Fatboy seemed a little more sporty and although it
wasn't as comfortable it did feel more like an extension of my body
and more like I think a motorcycle should feel. I think it was
because I sat lower into the bike. It did seem to play into the wind
more, felt lighter than the Road King and I can see that being a
problem on the interstate, but at this point in my life I think I'm
going for the "Fad" as you guys call it, and maybe in 5 years go for
the touring bike. Thanks again.
>I've read all the posts I can find about the differences between a
>Road King and Fatboy. Most of my riding is going to be 100 miles or
>less, but occassionally I might want to go up to the mountains which
>would be about 250 miles round trip on some interstate. I think for
>the most part it will be just me, around town, stop and go, or out on
>some back roads where my speed will be between 50 - 65.
<snip>
Buy a sportster.
Flame it, chrome it, and pose with it. It'll handle 250 mile round
trips no problem, and you can get all the doo-dads you want for it
without wrecking your budget.
--
ah71 bs71 dm6 '85FXRS
Finally the voice of reason. Better yet, buy one of each.
112 <--- can't have too many bikes
I agree, just ordered an '05 Ultra for spring delivery.
--
Take out the trash to reply
> Finally the voice of reason. Better yet, buy one of each.
>
> 112 <--- can't have too many bikes
Agreed.
And it's even better if all of them are actually running.
Dave S.
1996 FLHR-I Road King <------ spending autumn in the shop
> stealer had an Ultra to demo ride, ta[l]ked the missus into getting
> on for a ride even though she refused to even consider that we should
> buy it. Well, about 200 feet down the strret she is saying, "this is
> nice!","I like this!". After 1/2 hour ride all the ideas about what
> we wanted in a bike were completely changed! She wants the Ultra! (I
> do too!).
And then followed with:
> We may never get more than 100 miles from home, but who knows, maybe
> we will, but if it is on a HD, it will be an Ultra Glide!
I'm glad you are leaving room for the possibility that you (plural) may
enjoy longer rides. A longer ride is an _excellent_ way to meet some
of the fine folks in this establishment and to see the sights across
America. And Europe. And Scandinavia. (Etc.)
Even if you never meet any of us, you can meet fine people everywhere,
including gas stations, rest stops, and little barbeque restaurants
along secondary roads.
I hope you end up with the motorcycle you want!
Dave S.
1996 FLHR-I Road King (spending autumn in the shop)
> Even if you never meet any of us, you can meet fine people everywhere,
> including gas stations, rest stops, and little barbeque restaurants
> along secondary roads.
The true essence of the road, be it on a RK, a Fatboy, or a
1970 Chevelle or '62 Nova.
roach
> Personally I like the Road King, but the Fat Boy is the most popular
>model, so it comes down to personal taste.
I'm not so sure about this Tud. On our summer tour Lynn and I saw so
many Road Kings that we coined the phrase "Just another fuckin' road
King".
Now she's re-thinking her decision to move up to a RK, just cuz
there's so many of therm out there. I just may be making over the FXEF
into a more comfortable long distance crusier.
Or maybe looking for another FLT.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51
Real bikers ride RoadKings, besides they're a better investment.
Hoppy
BS7 AH85 SENS
and here you and me are, way behind the trend.
or way out in front.
--
Easy, #39
the "don't really care" Asshole (tm)
*That's* what's important!
--
Chilly
NoVA BS#226 DOF#55 MANS
'04 FLHTCi - Night
www.chilly-willy.net
Hey, dp resembles that remark.
--
randy BS6, AH#106
Rumor has it the Fatboy made his ass look big.
--
SH - From the North Oregon Coastal region
AH#93 BS#15 Mull#2
Famous ass scratcher and rider of the Orange Choppah "Ass magnet"
Go Eddie!!
http://eddiekieger.com/
We may do some longer rides. I don't have a problem touring accross the
country, but the missusis kind of a wimp! Short rides, warm weather only!
I am hoping with the Ultra, and some electric gear she will become more
adventurous! When we were discussing bikes I asked her if she would go on a
300-500 mile trip on a SoftTail with bags and a backrest, her answer was no.
Asked the same about the Ultra, answer was a smile, and maybe!
Good enough for me, getting am Ultra!
Greg
You heard it here, folks. Road Kings are the next Big Fad.............
west, who is still happy with his FXSTC........
> > He's right about that. All the guys who bought into the Fat Boy as a fad
> > are moving on to Road Kings now.
> You heard it here, folks. Road Kings are the next Big Fad.............
>
> west, who is still happy with his FXSTC........
As with all fads, if you wait long enough, the FXSTC will come around.
--
JMark
L03H45-004
Of course, if you are just posing and barhopping, you won't care about
that ...
--
Poppa
2002 FLHRI
Unless your bars are in the mountains.
--
BS205© DOF#FiftyTo CVNS® G&W FD#1
'01 FXST "Sluggo"
Wow why choose, and to boot the new deluxe has the best of both, I
have a road king for the long road trips and just got the deluxe for
anything under 300. It all depends if you like to be on top of the
king or right with it with the softail line. It also appears that the
tranny gearing is a little tighter in the softails.
Yeah...last time I went barhoppin........we left RE's place, crossed up over
Carson Pass, and went down to the Nevada side. The Genoa bar serves great
Bloody Marys. And then we had to go back.......
Yep, bunch of posers and barhoppers.
--
Steve Irving (Irv) - BS#237 DCI#2 DOF#918
2002 FXSTDI (Moby)
http://www.nite.com/bike.html
"Be the rain, be the rain"
Plus it does wheelies right out of the crate.
How kewl is that?
Ken
HSB#07 WOLF#13 BS#92 AH#70 SENS
"My guardian angel wears a hardhat"
Focus on the similarities. They are both overpriced. They will both break
down within the first month of ownership.
They will both leak oil. They are both Harleys.
I'm kinda with ya on the "overpriced". It's not affordable to many. Many
things aren't affordable to me, either.
But you are lying about your other two points.
--
"Wakko" Waco Glenn NTXNS TOMKAT SENS
'03 FLSTSI - "BlingBling" (The rare pigs reign)
http://www.heritagespringer.com
CRABB'04 MAMBM'04 VERMORT14 PHS'04
Overpriced? depends on whether you consider the resale value when and if you
ever want to move to a different model. Then, consider the price of a cop bike
(RK) I got one for 15k plus tax, had 630 miles on it. I've been riding the shit
out of it, and it runs great. the only money I put into it were for a used set
of sceaming eagle slip ons, and a two up seat.
I think I got a great deal.
and no, I wouldn't have called him a liar, I would have told him he was
completely full of shit!
-Brewster
'03 FLHPI
And that's why I used the qualifier "kinda". I should have said "priced
higher than some other marques".
yeah, understood... also, there's a matter of if one DOES keep a ricer (not
sure about Eurobikes), tryin to get parts 10 yrs down the road or so can be
like trying to talk your way out of a big F'n traffic ticket... it may happen,
but I wouldn't count on it.
This round's on me.
Brewster
'03 FLHPI
Carb rebuild kits were available from the local Honda dealer for my '74
CB550Four, haven't had to get anything more than that so far.
--
Tud
AH#115 SENS BS#111 LFS#32 FLF MISFIT
'70 Triumph T120R Chopper "The Death Trap"
'72 Triumph T100R project
'74 Honda CB550Four "The Reliable One"
http://ah115.com
Yeah, I think that it's a lot harder in general to find electrical parts than
mechanical for most, if not all offshore brand...
Brewster
'03 FLHPI
I happen to like the pretty sparks and the wonderfull sound my boards
make as I hang the corners a little low on my Poser Boy... <g>
--
Fred Schmed or something
'03 Fatboy
'86 GSXR750(w/1127cc) gone but never forgotten.