New venture....feedback requested....
Andrzej Jan Taramina
We are embarking on a new (sideline) venture leveraging our photographic skills
in doing portraits.
We plan to specialize (and advertise) in the following areas:
1) Tattoo Portraits. We're getting a lot of interest from people that spent a
lot of time/money/pain on good ink, and once it's healed, they want a good
portrait of them with the work.
2) Biker Boudoir portraits. We've already done some of these where someone
might want a tastefully (and discretely) done portrait of them as a present for
their spouse. Draped across their bike...or one of ours....in a variety of
settings (outdoor/nature on our private property, or studio based). Framed
portraits....calendars, etc.
Just curious as to what the interest in such portraits might be.....
Thoughts/Comments/Suggestions?
Thanks for any/all feedback.
....Andrzej & Dana
Redbeard Emeritus
<and...@chaeron.spamicide.com> writ:
>2) Biker Boudoir portraits. We've already done some of these where someone
>might want a tastefully (and discretely) done portrait of them as a present for
>their spouse. Draped across their bike...or one of ours....in a variety of
>settings (outdoor/nature on our private property, or studio based). Framed
>portraits....calendars, etc.
How shameless. You fuckin prevert!
(Need a westcoast outlet?)
--
Redbeard Emeritus "The Dirt Devil, with a built-in Crevice Tool" (c)
Do you polka?
Dana Taramina
uh, so far I'm the portrait photographer. :^)
>(Need a westcoast outlet?)
I'll keep you in mind-I'll be needing critiques and stuff, ya know.
:^D
Dana
Bitch 16 Wench 22 BS 23 BOTY VI ret.
'96 FXDS-Conv "Roxie"
'03 FLHTCUI
dual45s
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Ain't no way in hell I want any "discrete" photos taken of me on my bike.
That would violate morality standards in all southern states and a large
portion of the Midwest.
--
Wayne
AH 52, SENS, BS 238
The road goes on forever...
Schmoe
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> On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 17:06:25 GMT, Andrzej Jan Taramina
> <and...@chaeron.spamicide.com> writ:
>
> >2) Biker Boudoir portraits. We've already done some of these where
someone
> >might want a tastefully (and discretely) done portrait of them as a
present for
> >their spouse. Draped across their bike...or one of ours....in a variety
of
> >settings (outdoor/nature on our private property, or studio based).
Framed
> >portraits....calendars, etc.
I think a bedroom portrait is a good idea. Can I pick who's wife I want
pictures of? <g>
allen-1
Dana Taramina <dana...@spamicide.gryffyn.com> wrote:
>>How shameless. You fuckin prevert!
>
>uh, so far I'm the portrait photographer. :^)
>
>>(Need a westcoast outlet?)
>
>I'll keep you in mind-I'll be needing critiques and stuff, ya know.
CRITIQUE:
The thought of RE naked on a bike makes me want to vomit.
<sfsf> or not...
--
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Shaggy
> <and...@chaeron.spamicide.com> writ:
>
> >2) Biker Boudoir portraits. We've already done some of these where
someone
> >might want a tastefully (and discretely) done portrait of them as a
present for
> >their spouse. Draped across their bike...or one of ours....in a variety
of
> >settings (outdoor/nature on our private property, or studio based).
Framed
> >portraits....calendars, etc.
>
> How shameless. You fuckin prevert!
>
> (Need a westcoast outlet?)
Now waitaminnit RE, I thought you qualified as a postvert a very long time
ago.
^^^^
Can't remember whether you were fighting for the North or the South at the
time.......
Shag
Pull the plug to reply
SunShine
--allen-1 typed on Monday, April 05, 2004 2:08 PM -0400:
> CRITIQUE:
> The thought of RE naked on a bike makes me want to vomit.
>
> <sfsf> or not...
That's better than a red teddie, donchya think?
;-)
SunShine - in da burgh
B#10:W#8:A#50:LOB#3 '83 KZ750 "rozi"
"Get on your bikes and Ride!" -Queen
_____EKIII and Thumper rider with me...._____
http://www.livejournal.com/~sunshine_pgh
JMark
> uh, so far I'm the portrait photographer. :^)
I have experience in Boudoir and related photography from roughly 12-13
years ago. What is your medium to be? Color film? Who will develop
and print? Integrity of developer and printer? Touchy issues to some
potential clients. I remember back when - there was only one quality
film lab that would implement special conditions suitable to some
situations in the whole of the Tampa side of the Tampa Bay area.
--
JMark
Russell Watson
Send me proofs of any you take of nekkid gals and I'll let you know if
they're worthy or not. The pics, that is...
'97 FLSTF
To reply by e-mail, remove nospam from address.
Red-Haired She-Devil
>
>
>--allen-1 typed on Monday, April 05, 2004 2:08 PM -0400:
>
>> CRITIQUE:
>> The thought of RE naked on a bike makes me want to vomit.
>>
>> <sfsf> or not...
>
>That's better than a red teddie, donchya think?
>
Ob great. BOTH those mental pix are gonna give me nightmares.
RHSD
*shiver*
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StephG
out came news:22506983....@rozi.cmu.edu:
>
>
> --allen-1 typed on Monday, April 05, 2004 2:08 PM -0400:
>
>> CRITIQUE:
>> The thought of RE naked on a bike makes me want to vomit.
>>
>> <sfsf> or not...
>
> That's better than a red teddie, donchya think?
What do *you* think:
http://www.casadiablos.com/images/OBGYN/flashing_reduced.jpg
<sfsf>
(makes ya want to poke out your mind's eye)
--
StephG AH108 BS30 YPF8
John Ross
> "dual45s" <dua...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
> :Ain't no way in hell I want any "discrete" photos taken of me on my bike.
> :That would violate morality standards in all southern states and a large
> :portion of the Midwest.
>
> Some people should remain clothed. I'm one of them.
Well, I did see ya up at EKIII (we didn't get to talk much) and I gotta
agree with ya.
--
'02/'03 FXSTDI - Hal "Redux" BS#229 MA
AH#104
> 2) Biker Boudoir portraits.
> Just curious as to what the interest in such portraits might be.....
Calling Stone Cold Stupid... maybe you could get Andrzej to so some more of
Melissa...
--
ASSHOLE #104 Len
Redbeard Emeritus
writ:
>Andrzej sed:
>> 2) Biker Boudoir portraits.
>> Just curious as to what the interest in such portraits might be.....
>Calling Stone Cold Stupid... maybe you could get Andrzej to so some more of
>Melissa...
'Scuse me. I do believe that would be in the WEST.
Greasy Rider
screen with the following:
>Hi all:
>
>We are embarking on a new (sideline) venture leveraging our photographic skills
>in doing portraits.
>
>We plan to specialize (and advertise) in the following areas:
>
>1) Tattoo Portraits. We're getting a lot of interest from people that spent a
>lot of time/money/pain on good ink, and once it's healed, they want a good
>portrait of them with the work.
I would think that would be a very small niche since from a practical
standpoint since they will always have the artwork convenient for a
buddy with a disposable or digital camera to serve that purpose.
Perhaps a better utilization would be to publish a book of tattoo
portraits which would mean model releases which I’m sure you are
familiar with.
>2) Biker Boudoir portraits. We've already done some of these where someone
>might want a tastefully (and discretely) done portrait of them as a present for
>their spouse. Draped across their bike...or one of ours....in a variety of
>settings (outdoor/nature on our private property, or studio based). Framed
>portraits....calendars, etc.
>
>Just curious as to what the interest in such portraits might be.....
>
>Thoughts/Comments/Suggestions?
There were a couple of photographers offering this in the biker
community around these parts and evidently it wasn’t very successful
since they disappeared after about a year.
I did some limited amounts of that type of photography when I retired
from Big Blue but accidentally discovered a broader market was hair
dresser portfolios. Getting their confidence with quality work and
being discrete is the key. Usually the hair dresser gets some clients
to pose for the various stages of hair preparation and the clients get
a free hair do. The secondary benefit is the clients are often
flattered with the photography and wish additional photography which
can be very lucrative. Kind of like bridesmaids at a wedding which is
where the real money is. Model releases are suggested.
The hair dressers have all sorts of clubs and get togethers. The word
will spread if they are satisfied with your work.
Just my two cents.....
Ride Safe!
Greasy Rider
'97 FLHTCi Lehman trike
50 Years of motorcyling!
AH#104
> >> 2) Biker Boudoir portraits.
> >> Just curious as to what the interest in such portraits might be.....
> >Calling Stone Cold Stupid... maybe you could get Andrzej
>to so some more of Melissa...
R.E. sed:
> 'Scuse me. I do believe that would be in the WEST.
I believe you are correct...
(_104_)
Curt
>There were *lots* of people at EKIII that should stay clothed.
Well...
I'M NOT ONE OF 'EM!
Just pitcher me nekkid (except the vest) and hollerin' while runnin'
over to save that damsel in distress from the campground
lunaticwhazzisface.
Shirley wooda skeered the bejeezus out of the knucklehead!
"Beertender, a round - better make that two, especially after *that*
mental imagery - for the house when you have a moment, please. I'm
buying. And stayin' dressed."
>Perhaps a burka concession would be in order this year.
Only if they come in reflective orange. :p
--
Curt
Alan Gideon
Sounds like porn to me this is family values ng!
Alan a dale'
John Ross
> John Ross <softai...@verizon.invalid.net> wrote:
>
> :> Some people should remain clothed. I'm one of them.
> :
> :Well, I did see ya up at EKIII (we didn't get to talk much) and I gotta
> :agree with ya.
>
> There were *lots* of people at EKIII that should stay clothed.
> Perhaps a burka concession would be in order this year.
As long as I get one with flames on it....
Don't I remember Banker givin' someone a lap dance? He probly coulda got
more dough if he was wearin' that vest, lights flashin, William Hung
singin' in th' background...
--
'02/'03 FXSTDI - Hal "Redux" BS#229 MA
She bangs, she bangs...
dual45s
news:Xns94C29EDD...@130.133.1.4...
Damnation Steph - you have to post a warning with a link like that.
StephG
out came news:5qocc.409964$jH.60...@twister.tampabay.rr.com:
> "StephG" <dontspammeFr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> What do *you* think:
>> http://www.casadiablos.com/images/OBGYN/flashing_reduced.jpg
>>
>> <sfsf>
>>
>> (makes ya want to poke out your mind's eye)
>
> Damnation Steph - you have to post a warning with a link like that.
Hey, "(makes ya want to poke out your mind's eye)" sounds like a warning to
me ;)
MrScottly
>
> Calling Stone Cold Stupid... maybe you could get Andrzej to so some more of
> Melissa...
I believe the original post said, "Tasteful".
MrScottly#54
Curt Martin
JMark wrote:
> Dana Taramina wrote:
> I have experience in Boudoir and related photography from roughly 12-13
> years ago.
Now *something* in that sentence just don't sound right!
Redbeard Emeritus
<dontspammeFr...@hotmail.com> writ:
And works about as well as: don't look: train wreck.
Dana Taramina
>That would violate morality standards in all southern states and a large
>portion of the Midwest.
Fortunately we're in Canada, where such things are much more
civilized. Or is that uncivilized? :^D
Dana Taramina
>Dana Taramina wrote:
>
>> uh, so far I'm the portrait photographer. :^)
>
>I have experience in Boudoir and related photography from roughly 12-13
>years ago. What is your medium to be? Color film?
Or black and white. Or digital.
Who will develop
>and print?
A local pro photographer I have complete trust in.
> Integrity of developer and printer? Touchy issues to some
>potential clients.
I agree, and have covered the issue to the satisfaction of some fairly
conservative clients. In the case of digital we do all the printing.
>I remember back when - there was only one quality
>film lab that would implement special conditions suitable to some
>situations in the whole of the Tampa side of the Tampa Bay area.
Yup-I remember when too. Now, don't get me wrong, I wouldn't take any
of this film to WalMart or anything, but I have found it easier to
find reputable printers lately. These negs never leave the building,
and I know all the staff there. They are all pro photographers (some
apprentice level) and do a lot of "high fashion" printing as well as a
lot of fine art printing.
Dana Taramina
>standpoint since they will always have the artwork convenient for a
>buddy with a disposable or digital camera to serve that purpose.
That's not the kind of photography we do. These are actual
professional portraits. Not point and click snapshots.
>Perhaps a better utilization would be to publish a book of tattoo
>portraits which would mean model releases which I’m sure you are
>familiar with.
Being extensively tattooed myself, yes I'm familiar with model
releases.
>There were a couple of photographers offering this in the biker
>community around these parts and evidently it wasn’t very successful
>since they disappeared after about a year.
hm. Too bad. Andrzej's going to have to keep his day job. :^)
>
>I did some limited amounts of that type of photography when I retired
>from Big Blue but accidentally discovered a broader market was hair
>dresser portfolios. Getting their confidence with quality work and
>being discrete is the key. Usually the hair dresser gets some clients
>to pose for the various stages of hair preparation and the clients get
>a free hair do. The secondary benefit is the clients are often
>flattered with the photography and wish additional photography which
>can be very lucrative. Kind of like bridesmaids at a wedding which is
>where the real money is. Model releases are suggested.
>
Interesting idea. (Money-wise) Artistically I'd find that pretty
boring.
>The hair dressers have all sorts of clubs and get togethers. The word
>will spread if they are satisfied with your work.
>
>Just my two cents.....
Thanks...
Dana Taramina
wrote:
uh, you're quotng is a bit out of whack. I didn't say that. :^)
Roach
> >There were a couple of photographers offering this in the biker
> >community around these parts and evidently it wasn't very successful
> >since they disappeared after about a year.
>
> hm. Too bad. Andrzej's going to have to keep his day job. :^)
Hey Dana, I've been in the photo/video business in one form or another
for the last 16 years. I'll just add this one bit of advice. There is no single
niche that will make you a living. You need to have a bunch of ideas,
and do them all to keep you busy, or you're right, let Andrzej keep his day
job. :)
YMMV, JMHO, etc.
--
Roach - Hoodlums©VMC Social Director
PH©#2, BS#196, DOF#yes MANS, SENS
'98FXDirty "DeerSlinger"
Curt Martin
Dana Taramina wrote:
> uh, you're quotng is a bit out of whack. I didn't say that. :^)
>
It's my snipper that's outta whack.
I guess that don't sound quite right either. Oh well, sorry.
Don T.
"Andrzej Jan Taramina" <and...@chaeron.spamicide.com> wrote in message
news:6e437054nuo9a359e...@4ax.com...
> Hi all:
>
> We are embarking on a new (sideline) venture leveraging our photographic
skills
> in doing portraits.
>
> We plan to specialize (and advertise) in the following areas:
>
> 1) Tattoo Portraits. We're getting a lot of interest from people that
spent a
> lot of time/money/pain on good ink, and once it's healed, they want a good
> portrait of them with the work.
>
> 2) Biker Boudoir portraits. We've already done some of these where
someone
> might want a tastefully (and discretely) done portrait of them as a
present for
> their spouse. Draped across their bike...or one of ours....in a variety
of
> settings (outdoor/nature on our private property, or studio based).
Framed
> portraits....calendars, etc.
>
> Just curious as to what the interest in such portraits might be.....
>
> Thoughts/Comments/Suggestions?
>
> Thanks for any/all feedback.
Can I bring my bright red mouthball?
Don T.- Oh great, that is right, I lent it to Nancy and I haven't got it
back yet. ;-)
Dana Taramina
>for the last 16 years. I'll just add this one bit of advice. There is no single
>niche that will make you a living.
Oh, for sure I get that. I'm also a graphic designer by trade, the
phography thing is more a kind of serious hobby for me. I describe
myself as an "enthusiastic amatuer" even though I've sold my work. I'm
even booked to do a couple of weddings this summer, something I told
myself I'd *never* do again. What the heck, I'm in the mood and it's
for friends.
Dana Taramina
wrote:
>
>
Hey, I had demerol for breakfast this morning, now it all sounds fine.
%^/
Andrzej Jan Taramina
Finally....a serious comment from JMark:
> I have experience in Boudoir and related photography from roughly 12-13
> years ago. What is your medium to be? Color film? Who will develop
> and print? Integrity of developer and printer? Touchy issues to some
> potential clients.
I shoot Digital SLR exclusively, so no developing needed. Printing is done
in-house on quality paper using archival Ultrachrome inks (70-100 year
lifespan).
Since everything is in-house, that means that discretion can be guaranteed
absolutely.
Good issues though....
....Andrzej
NOTE: Remove Spamicide(tm) before replying!!!
Andrzej Jan Taramina
> I would think that would be a very small niche since from a practical
> standpoint since they will always have the artwork convenient for a
> buddy with a disposable or digital camera to serve that purpose.
It's niche markets that interest us....we have no interest in doing
wedding/kid/dog photography. Rather leave that to the Walmarts and so-called
pro photographers.
For now, it's intended to be a sideline, not a primary source of income (any
income means the camera gear becomes a deductible expense. We also have close
ties to some of the artists, which is where the requests are coming
from....instant referrals.
The issue with the friend with camera is that they rarely produce a formal
portrait that is worthy of hanging on a wall. We don't want to do close-ups of
the ink....more person portraits with the tats well-featured (got some
interesting ideas on how to do some of that).
> Perhaps a better utilization would be to publish a book of tattoo
> portraits which would mean model releases which I’m sure you are
> familiar with.
We'ld definitely consider that down the road....but to get enough pics to make a
book doable, I would rather clients paid for portraits along the way.
> There were a couple of photographers offering this in the biker
> community around these parts and evidently it wasn’t very successful
> since they disappeared after about a year.
Again, since it's going to be a sideline rather than used to pay the mortgage,
I'm thinking that we can afford to specialize to this level.
> The hair dressers have all sorts of clubs and get togethers. The word
> will spread if they are satisfied with your work.
Probably not an area that I want to work in though. We primarily do photography
for the love of it.....just figure we'll specialize in areas where we can show
that we're different and have some "street cred".
> Just my two cents.....
Worth a couple of beers when next we meet! Thanks for the feedback.
Andrzej Jan Taramina
> http://www.casadiablos.com/images/OBGYN/flashing_reduced.jpg
> Damnation Steph - you have to post a warning with a link like that.
No shit, Sherlock!
You would think, what with RE living in California, that he woulda gotten some
implants by now. Just think of the benefits...he could fondle some tits any
time he wanted and not get slapped in the process. ;-)
Andrzej Jan Taramina
> Hey Dana, I've been in the photo/video business in one form or another
> for the last 16 years. I'll just add this one bit of advice. There is no single
> niche that will make you a living. You need to have a bunch of ideas,
> and do them all to keep you busy, or you're right, let Andrzej keep his day
> job. :)
That would be the plan for now.
Donna A.
> On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 02:16:33 GMT, "dual45s" <dua...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>>http://www.casadiablos.com/images/OBGYN/flashing_reduced.jpg
>
>
>>Damnation Steph - you have to post a warning with a link like that.
>
>
> No shit, Sherlock!
>
> You would think, what with RE living in California, that he woulda gotten some
> implants by now. Just think of the benefits...he could fondle some tits any
> time he wanted and not get slapped in the process. ;-)
Oh, gawd, why did you have to say that? I feel my lunch coming up...
;-)
--
Donna A.
Wench #17/Bitch #17/BS #26/AH#107
'95 FLHTCUI Fuel Injected 30th Anniversary Electraglide "Fueley"
'66 H-D Bobcat "Baby Blue"--Harley Hummer Club Member #1066
http://spoiled-brat.com/rwr (m/c related site)
http://userpages.chorus.net/witw (photography site)
allen-1
SunShine <spam...@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>
>
>--allen-1 typed on Monday, April 05, 2004 2:08 PM -0400:
>
>> CRITIQUE:
>> The thought of RE naked on a bike makes me want to vomit.
>>
>> <sfsf> or not...
>
>That's better than a red teddie, donchya think?
Seen or heard from Inch lately?
--
ah71 bs71 dm6 '85FXRS