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REMEMBERING EDDIE KIEGER...HELP HIM!

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V. Menard

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Jan 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/19/97
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Cuda and I met Eddie Kieger at Sturgis in '92, although we "met" him a
year earlier on rmh. Eddie....I still have trouble thinking of him in his
current situation. Eddie lived hard, and rode hard.

Eddie was so full of energy, he made _me_ look like I was on valium! He
was very intent, with piercing eyes, and was not at all hesitant to share
his ideas.
He was lean, but powerful, somewhat like a swimmer's body, but much stronger.

I'd describe Eddie as a "colorful" individual, in a good way. Cuda and I
enjoyed the short time we had with him at Sturgis, and riding with Eddie
back to Stafford's. (we were on our way back to Chicago; he stopped at
John's.)

After that, Eddie and I communicated via e'mail, sharing ideas, stories,
and scheming one way or another. When I heard of his accident, I didn't
want to believe it. First, I couldn't imagine Eddie having to live day by
day in his current condition, and second, because all of us know that it
can happen to any of us. But it does.

Those of you who never got to know him before, you can help him now!
PLEASE, time is very short! His mom, Ann, has been a true saint. She has
worked with Eddie daily since his accident, and has struggled as most of
us will never know.

ANN NEEDS OUR HELP, AND SHE NEEDS IT NOW! Please, do what you can, but do
it THIS WEEK! Sunshine will let us know where to send our checks, and to
whom to make out the check to. Those of you who don't know these people,
don't worry. Sunshine is good people, Ann is good people, Eddie is good
people.

Cuda and I are sending out a check as soon as the information is
published. Please, write a check for $10 , $20, or what you can afford.
It _will_ help!

Thanks for listening...


mikey (with Cuda's blessing)

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Natural Born Cereal Killer

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Jan 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/21/97
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cud...@not.likely.interaccess.com (V. Menard) writes:

>ANN NEEDS OUR HELP, AND SHE NEEDS IT NOW! Please, do what you can, but do
>it THIS WEEK!

I hate to sound corporate, but I've set up a meeting. $8k is
chicken feed for a corporate advertising budget. If I can get some
clients behind the effort, and I'll donate my time of course, I think
I can raise the money without too much trouble. Updates as I find out.

You might have to look at a couple of corporate logo's as
you peruse the items for auction on my server. I think that's worth
Eddie's van for. At least, that's what I'm proposing to the High
Command this morning. I'll post an update as I find out details.

Keep the auction going, folks -- I'm looking to get some
deep pockets involved, but they will want something for it. I
will shut them down if they do a spam or binary post, but as I
think about the mail and stories Eddie and I shared with each other
I think I can bring myyself to tolerate a logo or link in a page.

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SunShine

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Jan 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/21/97
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Natural Born Cereal Killer wrote:
>
> cud...@not.likely.interaccess.com (V. Menard) writes:
>
> >ANN NEEDS OUR HELP, AND SHE NEEDS IT NOW! Please, do what you can, but do
> >it THIS WEEK!
>
> I hate to sound corporate, but I've set up a meeting. $8k is
> chicken feed for a corporate advertising budget. If I can get some
> clients behind the effort, and I'll donate my time of course, I think
> I can raise the money without too much trouble. Updates as I find out.


Also, when we reach the $8000, we can still contribute. Eddie gets only
maintenance Physical Therapy, insurance will not cover any more intense
therapy because in the very short period of time the allot for
appraisal, they don't see the improvement. Any funds above and beyond
the price of the van will go for this therapy. Curently all the 'extra'
therapy is done by Ann herself, though she has to go thru a hassle to
use the weight room.


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Steve...@see.sig.for.address

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Jan 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/21/97
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Natural Born Cereal Killer (vik...@probe.net) wrote:
: I hate to sound corporate, but I've set up a meeting. $8k is

: chicken feed for a corporate advertising budget. If I can get some
: clients behind the effort, and I'll donate my time of course, I think
: I can raise the money without too much trouble. Updates as I find out.

I'll donate advertising space on the NYC Motorcycles web page (which
is noncommercial so any ads will look reeeeeeeeeal obvious). The site
is under reconstruction now and will be the home of MANYS (Motorcycle
Assocation of NY State) and the Thunder Press East Events page so
it should see decent traffic.

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M. Menard

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Jan 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/21/97
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In article <32E518EC...@pmw.org>, SunShine <gr...@pmw.org> wrote:


> Also, when we reach the $8000, we can still contribute. Eddie gets only
> maintenance Physical Therapy, insurance will not cover any more intense
> therapy because in the very short period of time the allot for
> appraisal, they don't see the improvement. Any funds above and beyond
> the price of the van will go for this therapy. Curently all the 'extra'
> therapy is done by Ann herself, though she has to go thru a hassle to
> use the weight room.

Ya know what? Each of us could set up an "automatic withdrawal" in our
accounts for $10 a month...If 3,000 of us did it, Eddie would have $30,000
per month for therapy...See, a little _does_ go a long way!

Sunshine...since this is yours (thanks...I owe you BIG on this...I'll even
baby sit at MITM for ya ...once!) what do you think?


Michael Menard
AKA mikey


> Eddie Kieger information: http://www.psc.edu/eddie Please Help!

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V. Menard

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Jan 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/21/97
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In article <fxb-210197...@d106.cloud.interaccess.com>,
f...@interaccess.com (M. Menard) wrote:

> In article <32E518EC...@pmw.org>, SunShine <gr...@pmw.org> wrote:
>
>
> > Also, when we reach the $8000, we can still contribute. Eddie gets only
> > maintenance Physical Therapy, insurance will not cover any more intense
> > therapy because in the very short period of time the allot for
> > appraisal, they don't see the improvement. Any funds above and beyond
> > the price of the van will go for this therapy. Curently all the 'extra'
> > therapy is done by Ann herself, though she has to go thru a hassle to
> > use the weight room.
>
> Ya know what? Each of us could set up an "automatic withdrawal" in our
> accounts for $10 a month...If 3,000 of us did it, Eddie would have $30,000
> per month for therapy...See, a little _does_ go a long way!
>
> Sunshine...since this is yours (thanks...I owe you BIG on this...I'll even
> baby sit at MITM for ya ...once!) what do you think?
>
>
> Michael Menard
> AKA mikey

^^^^^^^^^^^^

Note - *Mikey* offered to babysit, not me....'course he didn't say for how long.

Cheers,

Cuda

Natural Born Cereal Killer

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Jan 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/22/97
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vik...@probe.net (Natural Born Cereal Killer) writes:

>cud...@not.likely.interaccess.com (V. Menard) writes:

> I hate to sound corporate, but I've set up a meeting. $8k is
>chicken feed for a corporate advertising budget. If I can get some
>clients behind the effort, and I'll donate my time of course, I think
>I can raise the money without too much trouble. Updates as I find out.

Did you ever notice how companies hold meetings because they
cannot actually masturbate? I've made my pitch, been given the
corporate pat on the back and "We'll look into this issue item"
horseshit, and frankly I'm not to damn optimistic.

Da High Command are going to scratch their balls and ponder
it for another year or so, I'd bet. If they go for it, I'll work
myself half to death filling my promise. If they don't, I stand on
good ground...

I can get another job in 5 minutes, and frankly if I'm
working my ass off for this company and they won't help me help
a friend who crashed...

When I go down, be it next week or next millemium, I
gotta ask myself if my efforts will be remembered? Will April
get anything besides my back pay and life insurance? Will the
third week in the hospital be taken out of my vacation time, or
will I have to make it up during the weekends?

The bottom line is, don't bet on anything from Da
High Command, and though I'll stand by what I've personally
offered I must, at this time, distance myself from my corporate
office lest my integrity and honor be sullied.

BTW: there's a hotshot Unix guru, NT wizard, and networking
god that's not getting a lot of satisfaction from his work. I think
he's a helluva guy, personally. I'll forward any job openings to
him at this point.

Then again, after a typical 16 hour day maybe I just need
a few hours of sleep to calm myself down.

Mark Jenks

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Jan 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/22/97
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SunShine (gr...@pmw.org) wrote:
<snipp>

: Also, when we reach the $8000, we can still contribute. Eddie gets only


: maintenance Physical Therapy, insurance will not cover any more intense
: therapy because in the very short period of time the allot for
: appraisal, they don't see the improvement. Any funds above and beyond
: the price of the van will go for this therapy. Curently all the 'extra'
: therapy is done by Ann herself, though she has to go thru a hassle to
: use the weight room.

Sunshine,

Did you think about putting this all on paper with the full info,
and mailing address, and post it is the local bars? There are more then
enough bikers that will help a fellow biker (At least around here it's
unbelieveable). "Help a fellow biker, it could be you someday" or
something along those lines.. I know it works wonders here in Milw.

Fuckin' Daffy
66FLH

PS> $25 is on the way as of Friday.

Mark Jenks

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Jan 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/22/97
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Bill Rouse (har...@primenet.com) wrote:
: Mark Jenks <mje...@solaria.sol.net> wrote:
: : SunShine (gr...@pmw.org) wrote:
: : <snipp>

: : Sunshine,

: Speaking of paper...notify the local paper of his dilemma.
: When they print a human interest story like this, the person written
: about is almost always deluged with donations!

Heck, you can always talk to the Local TV news team. They put those things
on once in awhile to "Just let people know of a needy person". You never
know, someone might bite and it might turn into a big deal.

Daffy

Bill Rouse

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Jan 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/22/97
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Mark Jenks <mje...@solaria.sol.net> wrote:
: SunShine (gr...@pmw.org) wrote:
: <snipp>

: : Also, when we reach the $8000, we can still contribute. Eddie gets only
: : maintenance Physical Therapy, insurance will not cover any more intense
: : therapy because in the very short period of time the allot for
: : appraisal, they don't see the improvement. Any funds above and beyond
: : the price of the van will go for this therapy. Curently all the 'extra'
: : therapy is done by Ann herself, though she has to go thru a hassle to
: : use the weight room.

: Sunshine,

: Did you think about putting this all on paper with the full info,
: and mailing address, and post it is the local bars? There are more then
: enough bikers that will help a fellow biker (At least around here it's
: unbelieveable). "Help a fellow biker, it could be you someday" or
: something along those lines.. I know it works wonders here in Milw.

Speaking of paper...notify the local paper of his dilemma.
When they print a human interest story like this, the person written
about is almost always deluged with donations!

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Ken

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Jan 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/23/97
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Bill Rouse wrote:
>
> Mark Jenks <mje...@solaria.sol.net> wrote:
> : SunShine (gr...@pmw.org) wrote:
> : <snipp>
>
> : : Also, when we reach the $8000, we can still contribute. Eddie gets only
> : : maintenance Physical Therapy, insurance will not cover any more intense
> : : therapy because in the very short period of time the allot for
> : : appraisal, they don't see the improvement. Any funds above and beyond
> : : the price of the van will go for this therapy. Curently all the 'extra'
> : : therapy is done by Ann herself, though she has to go thru a hassle to
> : : use the weight room.
>
> : Sunshine,
>
> : Did you think about putting this all on paper with the full info,
> : and mailing address, and post it is the local bars? There are more then
> : enough bikers that will help a fellow biker (At least around here it's
> : unbelieveable). "Help a fellow biker, it could be you someday" or
> : something along those lines.. I know it works wonders here in Milw.
>
> Speaking of paper...notify the local paper of his dilemma.
> When they print a human interest story like this, the person written
> about is almost always deluged with donations!
>

How about an "Eddie Kieger" website. We could crosspost the URL
containing the address for contributions to the various MC newsgroups.
Make a printable form for folks to tack up at their local shops, etc.
Might get some pretty good exposure this way.

Ken - HSB#07

David DeCoster

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Jan 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/23/97
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In article <85397179...@smyrno.sol.net>, mje...@solaria.sol.net (Mark Jenks) writes:

|> Bill Rouse (har...@primenet.com) wrote:
|> : Mark Jenks <mje...@solaria.sol.net> wrote:
|> : : SunShine (gr...@pmw.org) wrote:
|> : : <snipp>
|>
|> : : : Also, when we reach the $8000, we can still contribute. Eddie gets only
|> : : : maintenance Physical Therapy, insurance will not cover any more intense
|> : : : therapy because in the very short period of time the allot for
|> : : : appraisal, they don't see the improvement. Any funds above and beyond
|> : : : the price of the van will go for this therapy. Curently all the 'extra'
|> : : : therapy is done by Ann herself, though she has to go thru a hassle to
|> : : : use the weight room.
|>
|> : : Sunshine,
|>
|> : : Did you think about putting this all on paper with the full info,
|> : : and mailing address, and post it is the local bars? There are more then
|> : : enough bikers that will help a fellow biker (At least around here it's
|> : : unbelieveable). "Help a fellow biker, it could be you someday" or
|> : : something along those lines.. I know it works wonders here in Milw.
|>
|> : Speaking of paper...notify the local paper of his dilemma.
|> : When they print a human interest story like this, the person written
|> : about is almost always deluged with donations!
|>
|> Heck, you can always talk to the Local TV news team. They put those things
|> on once in awhile to "Just let people know of a needy person". You never
|> know, someone might bite and it might turn into a big deal.
|>
|> Daffy

I can see it now, "How the Global biker community through the
Use of the internet help one of their own."

Human interest, compasion and technology.

Works for me.

--
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ddec...@vnet.ibm.com

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is needed, for those who DON'T understand
NO explanation will be given.

SunShine

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Jan 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/23/97
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All these ideas would probably work better near his hometown. DOing it
here in Pittsburgh probably wouldn't wrk,, especial.y since he's near
<ugh> Cleveland!!!! I know the browns are gone, but 'burghers still
hate Cleveland, it's a 'burgh thing.

It's also something I really just don't have the time to do. I will
suggest it to Ann though.

Thanks for the ideas!


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Eddie Kieger information: http://www.psc.edu/~grant/eddie Please Help!

SunShine

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Jan 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/24/97
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Ken wrote:
>
> How about an "Eddie Kieger" website. We could crosspost the URL
> containing the address for contributions to the various MC newsgroups.
> Make a printable form for folks to tack up at their local shops, etc.
> Might get some pretty good exposure this way.
>
> Ken - HSB#07

see: http://www.psc.edu/~grant/eddie

SunShine

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Jan 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/24/97
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John J. Stafford wrote:
>
> In article <85397179...@smyrno.sol.net>, mje...@solaria.sol.net (Mark
> Jenks) wrote:
>
> > : Speaking of paper...notify the local paper of his dilemma.
> > : When they print a human interest story like this, the person written
> > : about is almost always deluged with donations!
> >
> > Heck, you can always talk to the Local TV news team. They put those things
> > on once in awhile to "Just let people know of a needy person". You never
> > know, someone might bite and it might turn into a big deal.
>
> Dunno. I don't trust the media one bit, and I'm not sure that
> Eddie or Ann would like how Eddie would be exploited. The media
> could turn this into a "bad biker gets his due" or use other
> innuendo to 'sell' their agenda.


Exactly. I decided against trying because I didn't have the time to
wade through the apathy I was sure I'd get after they asked me a few
simple questions - Did he have a DOT helmet on? Was he a known partier?

That's why I deferred to someone else, but John does bring up an
intersting point about the exploitation. Ann definitely needs to be in
the loop on this one.

Keith James

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Jan 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/26/97
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Ken HSB#07 wrote:
>
> How about an "Eddie Kieger" website. We could crosspost the URL
> containing the address for contributions to the various MC newsgroups.
> Make a printable form for folks to tack up at their local shops, etc.
> Might get some pretty good exposure this way.

I've already built a website (http://www.west.net/~online/ek), but I
don't have a printable form. SunShine? Carol? Anybody? Put together a
form (.txt or .doc) like the one suggested in Ken's post and I'll make
it downloadable from the EK Auction Page.

kj

SunShine

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Jan 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/27/97
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Carol's been sending me updates.... make a link on your page to

http://www.psc.edu/~grant/eddie/auction.txt


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\ | | |\ | \ |_| | |\ | (^) Home Page: http://www.pmw.org/~grant
(__) \_/ | \|(__)| | | | \| _X_ Joke Collection:
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Eddie Kieger information: http://www.psc.edu/~grant/eddie/ Please
Help!

..go eddie

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