Sonny Barger Cycles - where the hell did it go!!!
Kringe
others ride their cool ass loud bikes....
then one day I saw Sonny Barger Cycles listed in OUTLAW BIKER mag. I drove
to the Place in Phoenix, AZ and it was gone!!!
There was an empty building and a sign in the door that said AUTHORIZED
BIKERS CHOICE!
What the hell... did the law run him out?
Dennis Peterson
For everything you ever needed to know about Sonny -
http://sonnybarger.com
--
dp -- BS#3, LF#27, AH#95
Jump to my auctions at:
http://eddiekieger.com/~dkp/cgi-bin/ek3auction.cgi?justdisp&Dp
Support Eddie Kieger III at http://eddiekieger.com
Got a home page? Please add a link to Eddie's site!
Mr.Breeze
>
>I am from the Bay Area and grew up watching Sonny Barger and Cisco and
>others ride their cool ass loud bikes....
>
>then one day I saw Sonny Barger Cycles listed in OUTLAW BIKER mag. I drove
>to the Place in Phoenix, AZ and it was gone!!!
>
>There was an empty building and a sign in the door that said AUTHORIZED
>BIKERS CHOICE!
>
>What the hell... did the law run him out?
>
onnybarger.com
Mr.Breeze
Steph Greenberg
Dennis Peterson <dpet...@halcyon.com> wrote:
> For everything you ever needed to know about Sonny -
> http://sonnybarger.com
Gotta add some Sonny Barger Hot Sauce to my collection! Only I'd be a
leetle hesitant to hand over my CC# to his site.
Bet his book will be interesting, if not outright entertaining.
--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Steph Greenberg Pundit in training
BS#30 PYFP#8 Cerevisia malorum... divina medicina
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
shovelheadchuck
Accross the street from the H.A. Oakland chapter club house
Charlie on the Harley.
Kringe
> Accross the street from the H.A. Oakland chapter club house
Good that is what I have been looking for... Well page 78 of Outlaw Biker
X-mas issue #129 shows that Sonny has a shop in Arizona... I guess Im
driving back home to Oakland now... I drove to Arizona on Tuesday.
spider
shovelheadchuck <shovelh...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:3869C7BA...@mindspring.com...
> > What the hell... did the law run him out?
No!
Spider
spider
Dennis Peterson <dpet...@halcyon.com> wrote in message
news:38696E1F...@halcyon.com...
I don't think so!
spider
Waro
Are you is lawyer?
--
-Waro, 99 FXD
Dennis Peterson
>
> Dennis Peterson <dpet...@halcyon.com> wrote in message
> news:38696E1F...@halcyon.com...
> > For everything you ever needed to know about Sonny -
> > http://sonnybarger.com
>
> I don't think so!
>
> spider
Lemme put it another way - everything *he* thinks you should know about
him. He seems to think you should buy his book and some expensive
artwork.
Preacher
>I am from the Bay Area and grew up watching Sonny Barger and Cisco and
>others ride their cool ass loud bikes....
>
>then one day I saw Sonny Barger Cycles listed in OUTLAW BIKER mag. I drove
>to the Place in Phoenix, AZ and it was gone!!!
That's because he's in *Glendale* Arizona.
DUH!
He's riding with the Cave Creek boys now.
Preacher
#89
Preacher
>Sonny Barger's custom Cycles, on E14th st. Oakland Ca.
>Accross the street from the H.A. Oakland chapter club house
>
>Charlie on the Harley.
'Scuse me.
It's:
Sonny Barger's Oakland Custom Motorcycles
4010 Foothill Blvd.
Oakland, CA 94601
(510)535-0404
At least it was last time I checked.
I'm not sure they still have the shop open. Guinea and Steve were workin' it
last I knew but I *think* I heard they weren't any more. Just talked with
some of my Ventura Brothers about it last week. Maybe they moved and that's
what they meant.
Preacher #89
Support your local Hells Angels-Monterey(R)
Kringe
door - where is this cave creek store? North of Cactus on Cave creek rd.? or
in the city of Cave Creek.
Well.. that is if he still sells parts. - my papy told me to buy from Barger
a month or so ago... I guess I was a few weeks too late.
"Preacher" <prea...@my.house.in.CA> wrote in message
news:84dmp9$tvo$1...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net...
> Kringe wrote in message ...
spider
Waro <wa...@gw.total-web.net> wrote in message
news:386A2AD1...@gw.total-web.net...
> spider wrote:
> >
> > Dennis Peterson <dpet...@halcyon.com> wrote in message
> > news:38696E1F...@halcyon.com...
> > > For everything you ever needed to know about Sonny -
> > > http://sonnybarger.com
> >
> > I don't think so!
> >
> > spider
>
>
> --
> -Waro, 99 FXD
Nope! Why?
Spider
spider
> Lemme put it another way - everything *he* thinks you should know about
> him. He seems to think you should buy his book and some expensive
> artwork.
There really is not much of anything on his pages about him. The book is
not out yet. Should be interesting reading.
Spider
Preacher
>heh.. Well.. theres an empty building with a Bikers Choice sign in the
>door -
In Phoenix or in Glendale? In Phoenix, yes. In Glendale (AZ), No. (or that's
how it should be)
>where is this cave creek store?
There is not a "Cave Creek" store. His *store/shop* is in Glendale Arizona,
he *rides* with the Cave Creek Chapter of the HAMC.
>North of Cactus on Cave creek rd.? or
>in the city of Cave Creek.
I'm going up to the HAMC-O Clubhouse next week. I'll ask Guniea or Steve if
they have Sonny's business adress for you. I'll post it here, IF he hasn't
closed his doors.
>Well.. that is if he still sells parts. - my papy told me to buy from
Barger
>a month or so ago... I guess I was a few weeks too late.
Naw, don't give up hope. I just talked to a Ventura Brother last week and he
didn't say anything about Sonny not being in business anymore. In fact, when
he asked me about Sonny moving to AZ I told him where he moved to. He knows
George Christie (Gus) so if *anybody* would know about Sonny, Gus would.
I'll see if I can find out for you.
Preacher
Kringe
> closed his doors.
thanks - The one I saw was at 7820 N.67th Ave in glendale. Ave next to a
bar.
my bike could really use a bigger tank and probably a raked springer too
spider
Kringe <kri...@uswest.net> wrote in message
news:iG3b4.7$wl....@news.uswest.net...
Sonny Barger Motors INC. "was" located at 7820 N. 67th Ave., Suite 101B
in
Glendale.
He is no longer there. He will be opening up at another location in the
near future.
Spider
Warner G.
its the same dude.
Kringe
Now I dont have to move back to the bay area.
"Warner G." <meis...@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
news:20000101014153...@ng-cl1.aol.com...
Preacher
>I know of a Harley dealership in Marina del Rey, Ca named Barger. Dont
know if
>its the same dude.
No, it's not. And FWIW the dealer in Marina Del Rey is Bartels.
Bargers Harley-Davidson is in Canoga Park if I remember correctly.
Steph will know, he deals with them. I've talked with them over the phone,
they seem like good folks.
Preacher
#89
Preacher
I wrote to Kringe that when I was up in San Leandro, I would stop off at the
HAMC-O Clubhouse and ask Guinea about Sonny's shop in AZ:
>> (I'll see if)
>> they have Sonny's business adress for you. I'll post it here, IF he
hasn't
>> closed his doors.
>
>thanks - The one I saw was at 7820 N.67th Ave in glendale. Ave next to a
>bar.
Well I went up to Oaktown but I never made it by the Clubhouse.
Instead, I spent all of the time I allocated for business throwing a hissy
fit at Arlen Ness & company. I yelled, screamed, called people names, threw
dirt... you know the drill.
It seems that "good ole Arlen Ness" has a "new return policy" and wants to
start *fucking* the public when the chrome peels off of his billet parts he
sells. And I told him exactly how I felt about his "new return policy" and
which orifice it should go in. He doesn't think that he should have to eat
the cost of replacing a part that is of poor quality and that *I* should!
(even though he has a written policy stating *he* should)
There's more to come on this one folks, I ain't done with him yet. I'm
waiting to see what he sends me in return for a pair of FUCKED UP mirrors
(less then a year old, on the bike less then 8 months) before I tell my
story to the whole world. And I plan to.
In the meantime, beware of Arlen's in San Leandro CA. He has a "new policy"
(according to his manager, Paul) on returns of bad chrome... but he
apparently keeps it a secret until you go in with a bad part and want it
replaced.
Stay tuned, same channel....
Preacher
#89
Tud
> Naw, don't give up hope. I just talked to a Ventura Brother last week and
he
> didn't say anything about Sonny not being in business anymore. In fact,
when
> he asked me about Sonny moving to AZ I told him where he moved to. He
knows
> George Christie (Gus) so if *anybody* would know about Sonny, Gus would.
>
> I'll see if I can find out for you.
>
>
> Preacher
On a related topic, this was in the newspaper in Halifax, Nova Scotia
yesterday (I don't think you need a password to get to it). The building
the HA's now occupy is right next to the high school I went to.
http://www.herald.ns.ca/cgi-bin/home/displaystory?2000/01/11+211.raw+Metro
The reported consisders herslef a "Crime Reporter". My old man use to teach
some of the guys that formed "The Thirthieth Tribe", the gang that become
the Halifax Chapter of the Hell's Angels, yeah I know, who gives a shit,
just thought I'd mention it.
--
Tud "Last Man Standing"
SENS LFS #32
98 FLHPI
Hemipower
<prea...@my.house.in.CA> writes:
>beware of Arlen's in San Leandro CA. He has a "new policy"
>(according to his manager, Paul) on returns of bad chrome... but he
>apparently keeps it a secret until you go in with a bad part and want it
>replaced.
>
>Stay tuned, same channel....
>
For the prices he charges his shit should be
solid gold. I certainly would not stand for peeling ass shitty
chrome. Give em steel man.
We'll be waiting and watching bat^H^H^H Preacher.
--
Hemipower
55 FLH
Bored n Stroked "Failure Is Only The Opportunity To More
DTSS Intelligently begin again" Henry Ford
Cotten
I found the chrome on a Ness cam cover to be over-adequate:
Thet chromed over the damn cam and pinion
bushings!!!..Cotten
* Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find related Web Pages, Images, Audios, Videos, News, and Shopping. Smart is Beautiful
MANDKIM
>Re: Arlen's chrome
>I found the chrome on a Ness cam cover to be over-adequate:
>Thet chromed over the damn cam and pinion
>bushings!!!..Cotten
>
>
They build stuff that looks like it is going 200 mph and full of performance.
In reality its a joke, short lasting and only made for posers that pull their
bikes in and out of the garage.
Stone
Preacher
>"Preacher" writes:
>>beware of Arlen's in San Leandro CA. He has a "new policy"
>>(according to his manager, Paul) on returns of bad chrome... but he
>>apparently keeps it a secret until you go in with a bad part and want it
>>replaced. Stay tuned, same channel....
>
>
> For the prices he charges his shit should be
>solid gold. I certainly would not stand for peeling ass shitty
>chrome. Give em steel man.
Precisely my point. Like I told Arlen, "I paid 250 bucks for that fucking
set of mirrors sitting on the counter with the aluminum sitting there
corroding away under the chrome as we watch, and Paul is telling me 'that's
as good as it gets'?" BULLSHIT. I say FUCKING BULLSHIT.
That old fuck had the audacity to tell me that "Billet is hard to plate,
it's really difficult. And it's much harder to plate then regular aluminum".
I guess he doesn't know what the fuck "Billet" is. He ought to learn more
about his own product. All "billet" means is that it started out as a solid
chunk of aluminum and was machined from one piece, as opposed to being
melted down and cast in a mold.
Who the fuck does he think he's talking too? Who's he trying to bullshit?
And as a matter of fact, I was told by someone in the industry that "Billet
is less likely to corrode then cast" so I shouldn't be having as much
problems as I'm having. It seems really odd that it's just the Pushrod Tubes
and the Mirrors that give me the *most* problems. The shifter pegs and the
oil gauge bracket give me problems, but not nearly as bad as the Pushrod
tubes/mirrors. I have one of his voltage regulators sitting right out in the
open, right behind the front wheel, and it's been on there since the day
that they came out without so much as a road ding.
>We'll be waiting and watching bat^H^H^H Preacher.
I've been waiting for my mirrors to be sent back to me before I posted the
whole story. Now remember, they told me I'd have them in THREE DAYS. I went
in on 1/5/00, it's now 1/15/00. That's TEN DAYS... so far.
Kinda tells a story of it's own right there, don't it?
Preacher
Preacher
>Re: Arlen's chrome
>I found the chrome on a Ness cam cover to be over-adequate:
>Thet chromed over the damn cam and pinion
>bushings!!!..Cotten
I've had my "Louvered Chrome" Cam Cover (which I paid ~$350 for) replaced
one time so far too. The problem with it? "Bad Batch of Chrome" according to
the tech that looked at it that time.
The problem I had with the *new* cover was that the cam bushing was too
small and the cam wouldn't fit into the bushing. I had use a brake hone to
hone it out larger until I could get it over the cam bushing end of the
camshaft.
That "Arlen Ness" guy sure do sell some good quality shit, eh? Yesiree Bob.
Some of you might be thinking "so if it's so bad why'd you buy it in the
first place". I often ask myself the same question. When I bought the bike
from the original owner he had already started the "trend". The "trend"
being that everything flat was louvered, everything round was grooved. (the
only items that are flat and grooved are the transmission top cover and the
one piece dash) The Ness shit he had on the bike when I got it was all in
good shape (it was all pretty much brand new too) *except* the mirrors. And
only one of them was trashed. The chrome on it was peeling off of it like
tin foil. I actually peeled it *all* off and polished the bare aluminum out.
It didn't look bad but when I went up and started buying a *bunch* of stuff
to continue the "trend" one of the counter people was kind enough to offer
to replace the mirrors. "Just bring them up, I'll take care of it" so I did.
I figured one thing out of all the Ness junk wasn't bad, everyone is due
their mistakes. And they way they replaced it with no questions asked showed
me what great customer appreciation they had. Until this most recent "change
of policy" they decided to pull.
And once I got "so deep" into the Ness crap there was no way to turn back or
stop. The bike would look "unfinished" so I went ahead and bought the rest
of the crap. And besides, since I bought it all in a short period of time it
wasn't until later that I discovered the problems with it. And then it was
too late. Oh, and once you buy it, it's yours. No returns, just exchanges.
(which by the way isn't posted anywhere in the store, which is against the
law)
Preacher
Preacher
>>Re: Arlen's chrome
>>I found the chrome on a Ness cam cover to be over-adequate:
>>Thet chromed over the damn cam and pinion
>>bushings!!!..Cotten
>They build stuff that looks like it is going 200 mph and full of
performance.
>In reality its a joke, short lasting and only made for posers that pull
their
>bikes in and out of the garage.
Yer givin the guy too much credit. It's not made to be pulled out of the
garage, just to be left in the garage... and a garage with environmental
controls on it too. As a matter of fact one time when I e-mailed Arlen's web
site about my pushrod problem a guy named Randy, who claimed to be a Tech
support from Arlen's, first question was "what kind of riding do you do and
where do you live?"....
What the FUCK does *that* matter?? You tellin' me Arlen Ness shit it made
just for use in the middle of the country? The fact is, I RIDE the
motherfucker. And apparently Arlen's SHIT isn't made for bikes that get
ridden. His garbage gives new meaning to the term "Show Quality".... I guess
it means the "quality" is only good for "show" and that's it!
Also the other day when I was in the store raising hell I told Arlen that
this set is at LEAST the sixth pair of pushrod tubes I've had to replace.
(and never bitched about the time it takes to pull the tubes w/o
timesavers!) Arlen asks me "Where do you live? Near the water?" Like *that*
makes any gawd damn difference. It must be their standard blame tactic. I
told him "I live just north of SALINAS and just south of Gilroy... you
know... where it's always HOT and DRY". Then I asked him "what DIFFERENCE
does it make *where* I live? Are you telling me that every one of your
customers that live over in San Francisco has this problem too? If I lived
right on the damn seashore it shouldn't make any difference. If I rode the
motherfucker through the middle of the gawd damn Pacific Ocean it shouldn't
matter... The fact is, your shit doesn't hold up to regular ole run of the
mill riding, period". Oddly enough, he didn't argue the point. Either he
couldn't argue with it or he could see how pissed (and that's puttin it
mildly) I was and didn't want to get punched in the face.
Besides, like I told him, I clean my bike after every single ride I go on.
It's not like I ride it all the time and clean it once a year. I ride it, I
clean it, it's that simple. I may wait a day or two, but it gets a complete
wipe down. I figure it's the price I have to pay to have a nice looking
bike. (and also the primary reason I just bought a black w/mags FLHTC, so I
can ride and NOT clean it)
I'll give the guy this. There is no denying that *some* of his stuff is
good, premium, high quality work. But there is also NO denying that a
*bunch* of his shit is GARBAGE, trash, shit, junk. And top dollar GARBAGE
too. You would think that for the prices he charges a set of pushrod tubes
would last longer then 6 months to a year. Hell, the cheap CCI & DS crap I
have on my bike is better quality then the Arlen Ness GARBAGE I have on it.
You want to know what the *best* quality add-on chrome is? The
Harley-Davidson line of accy's.
Pretty sad commentary if you ask me...
Here's a list of Arlen Ness products I have on my bike and some comments
next to each item regarding it's performance. All the Arlen Ness products I
have on my bike is chrome plated, none is bare aluminum. And as I said in
another post, everything round is grooved, everything flat is louvered
except the trans *top* cover and dash which is grooved.
Top/front:
Oval Mirrors w/radial stems. (replaced at least 4 times)
Handgrips (no problem)
One piece dash (no problem)
Wedge hidden bolt volt. regulator (no problem)
Right side:
Oil pressure gauge (replaced 1 time)
Oil pressure gauge bracket (replaced 2 times)
Oil pressure gauge cover (replaced 2 times)
Pushrod Tubes (replaced at least 6 times)
Oval cam housing & points cover (replaced 1 time)
Oval Trans. side cover (no problem)
Trans top cover (no problem)
Master Cylinder Cover (no problem)
Left side:
Heel and Toe shifter pegs (replaced at least 5 times)
Shifter rod (replaced 1 time)
Primary inspection cover (no problem)
Derby cover (no problem)
Rear:
Passenger Pegs (no problem)
License plate backing/mount plate (no problem)
License plate frame (no problem)
Taillight lens & cover (no problem)
20 items total, 12 of them with no problem.
The remaining 8 items have been replaced a *minimum* of 20 times.
Not a very good record if you ask me. Looks like a F-, and that's only
because you can't get any lower...
To be continued.
Preacher-#89
Don Teal
<prea...@my.house.in.CA> wrote:
>Here's a list of Arlen Ness products I have on my bike and some comments
>next to each item regarding it's performance. All the Arlen Ness products I
>have on my bike is chrome plated, none is bare aluminum. And as I said in
>another post, everything round is grooved, everything flat is louvered
>except the trans *top* cover and dash which is grooved.
<snip the to be continued list>
Preacher,
First, thanks for keeping us abreast of a vendor and the way they are
treating a customer. Second, I hope a copy of all this is being
forwarded to Arlen Ness along with a note as to what kind of medium
and exposure he's getting.
I know many vendors monitor this newsgroup for feedback. I hope he
does and will do something about it. His shit is expensive and should
be top quality, and if it isn't, for the price, making it right should
be a no questions asked exchange.
--
Don
98 FXD
AH#87 BS#40 DM#4
http://web2.airmail.net/drt/index.html
ag
longer......................WHY not shop somewhere else? It would make
you feel better! It is not worth the grief to have a heart attack or a
stroke over after market parts when the web can lead you to so many
choices. THE SILENT CUSTOMER CAN BRING A BUISNESS TO IT'S KNEES(if
your not there they can't here you)!
>Here's a list of Arlen Ness products I have on my bike and some comments
>next to each item regarding it's performance. All the Arlen Ness products I
>have on my bike is chrome plated, none is bare aluminum. And as I said in
>another post, everything round is grooved, everything flat is louvered
>except the trans *top* cover and dash which is grooved.
>
Soupy
just tossed it in the can. Pretty expensive lesson, and the lesson learned?
When building a bike and using parts for the first time from any company you
have never done business with before - only buy one or two at a time to
verify the quality!
Soupy
"ag" <t...@wans.net> wrote in message
news:38829ca9....@news.ce.mediaone.net...
bbmc...@webtv.net
riding motorcycles and not a fashion show.
H-D till the end, smokem till the wheels fall off baby
Gareth
Preacher wrote:
>
> And as a matter of fact, I was told by someone in the industry that "Billet
> is less likely to corrode then cast" so I shouldn't be having as much
> problems as I'm having. It seems really odd that it's just the Pushrod Tubes
> and the Mirrors that give me the *most* problems. The shifter pegs and the
> oil gauge bracket give me problems, but not nearly as bad as the Pushrod
> tubes/mirrors. I have one of his voltage regulators sitting right out in the
> open, right behind the front wheel, and it's been on there since the day
> that they came out without so much as a road ding.
Some time ago, I wanted to buy a chromed set of switch covers there. I was told
by the sales guy not to get them, as they were just stuff with the Ness logo on
them, were not produced by them, and weren't that good quailty. I guess that a
lot of the stuff in there is just repacked for him. There's a definate drop off
in quality on some of the items. I've bought a few pieces from them, but always
from the baragin bin, and never for list. If I really want a chrome piece, I'll
take it down to High Lustre in Hayward, (a company Ness staff bag on
mercilessly for some reason), and get them to chrome it. I've *never* had a
problem with their chrome, and despite what my bike looks like, it gets ridden
every day in everything except a torrential downpour.
Fuck it. I'm in the middle of rebuilding the FXSB, and that's going to be
powdercoat, polished, and bead etched.
--
----------------------------------------------------------------
Gareth - 94 XL - 77 FXE - 83 FXSB - DM#2 - AH#102
----------------------------------------------------------------
Tony Greer
>Preacher wrote:
>
>>
>> And as a matter of fact, I was told by someone in the industry that "Billet
>> is less likely to corrode then cast" so I shouldn't be having as much
>> problems as I'm having. It seems really odd that it's just the Pushrod Tubes
>> and the Mirrors that give me the *most* problems. The shifter pegs and the
>> oil gauge bracket give me problems, but not nearly as bad as the Pushrod
>> tubes/mirrors. I have one of his voltage regulators sitting right out in the
>> open, right behind the front wheel, and it's been on there since the day
>> that they came out without so much as a road ding.
>
>Some time ago, I wanted to buy a chromed set of switch covers there. I was told
>by the sales guy not to get them, as they were just stuff with the Ness logo on
>them, were not produced by them, and weren't that good quailty. I guess that a
>lot of the stuff in there is just repacked for him. There's a definate drop off
>in quality on some of the items. I've bought a few pieces from them, but always
>from the baragin bin, and never for list. If I really want a chrome piece, I'll
>take it down to High Lustre in Hayward, (a company Ness staff bag on
>mercilessly for some reason), and get them to chrome it. I've *never* had a
>problem with their chrome, and despite what my bike looks like, it gets ridden
>every day in everything except a torrential downpour.
>
>Fuck it. I'm in the middle of rebuilding the FXSB, and that's going to be
>powdercoat, polished, and bead etched.
You think I could I take a look at your FXE? I've got some ongoing
wiring problems, and I can't track down where is't gone wrong...I been
working on an '81 FXE for a month or so, trying to get the
(aftermarke) turn signals to operate. At one point, they would light,
but only while I held in the button. They've never flashed, and now
that I changed the flasher, they don't do nuttin'
Tony
NightHawkers Reflective Apparel
"Clothing you want to be seen in"
www.nighthawkers.com
Phil Boutros
>
>You think I could I take a look at your FXE? I've got some ongoing
>wiring problems, and I can't track down where is't gone wrong...I been
>working on an '81 FXE for a month or so, trying to get the
>(aftermarke) turn signals to operate. At one point, they would light,
>but only while I held in the button. They've never flashed, and now
>that I changed the flasher, they don't do nuttin'
I doubt it's a wiring problem. Sounds like you need a load
equalizer. Should cure that right up, and it's cheap to boot.
Phil
--
AH#61 Wolf#14 bs#89 bus#1 KoB/CoT#75 ph...@total.net
http://www.total.net/~philb http://eddiekieger.com
"Power To The People" - BPP EKIII will ride with me again.
Preacher
>Tony Greer <tgr...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>(to Gareth H.)
>>You think I could I take a look at your FXE? I've got some ongoing
>>wiring problems, and I can't track down where is't gone wrong...I been
>>working on an '81 FXE for a month or so, trying to get the
>>(aftermarke) turn signals to operate. At one point, they would light,
>>but only while I held in the button. They've never flashed, and now
>>that I changed the flasher, they don't do nuttin'
>
>
>
>Sounds like the aftermarket ones don't have enough resistance to trip
>the blinker. There's a unit made by Badlands, called a "Turn Signal
>Load Equalizer" designed to handle just that problem.
>
>Don't let Gareth anywhere near the wiring on your bike. He'll set it
>on fire. Trust me.
Amen to *that* allen- 1!
Gareth is a fire looking for a place to happen. Don't let that boy anywhere
near the wiring on your bike, or don't let him fill the gas tank for you!
When *he* starts a fire, he does it RIGHT! :^) Might as well have a full
tank if yer gonna have a fire.
But the end results of the fire are nothing short of spectacular. Have you
seen his bike? Damn, it's FINE. He posted a few .jpg's of it awhile back on
abpmh, right after he put it back together and they really don't do it
justice, even though it looks great in pictures. You should see it live. I
loved it before it was "resurrected out of the ashes of the flames of his
wiring" (he should name it "The Phoenix"!) but he outdid himself with his
rebuild work. Of course I'm a sucker for polished cases and billet pieces on
a engine too! ;^) And it ain't all "flash" either. He did "a little" engine
work to it while he was in there.
If ya ever get a chance, try and take a gander at his scoot. Fuckin'
bitchin'. The flame job is just *too* cool. I like the way they "fade in" at
the front of the tank... kind'a hard to explain, you'd have to see pictures
of it to understand.
Now he's decided to rip apart his Wife's (Jennifer) scoot and rebuild it
too!
Heh heh heh, I don't think *he'll* be "gettin' any" for a long looonnnnng
time.
I meant SLEEP you perverts, he won't be gettin' any SLEEP for a long time!
Geez, what'd you think I meant? Git yer minds out of the gutter. ;^)
He'll be too busy workin' on her "scooter" to get any sleep, and on her bike
too! ;^)
Preacher - AH#89
Tony Greer
wrote:
>On 21 Jan 2000 23:59:49 EST, Tony Greer <tgr...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>>You think I could I take a look at your FXE? I've got some ongoing
>>wiring problems, and I can't track down where is't gone wrong...I been
>>working on an '81 FXE for a month or so, trying to get the
>>(aftermarke) turn signals to operate. At one point, they would light,
>>but only while I held in the button. They've never flashed, and now
>>that I changed the flasher, they don't do nuttin'
>
> I doubt it's a wiring problem. Sounds like you need a load
>equalizer. Should cure that right up, and it's cheap to boot.
>
>
>Phil
I was looking at that, and I almost bought one for $25 from J-P
Cycles. The craziest thing happened since I posted that message...I
was tracing the wires, and the wire from the rear turn signals was
connected to ground (haven't figured out how yet) AND connected to
power. For sure that don't work. I disconnected those, and the other
lights come on, but don't flash.
Now here's the really wierd part. The headlight dowsn't come on, but
it looks like it's good, so while I had the bare wires (see item #1
above) I clipped the hot and ground (from the rear turn signals) to
the connectors on the headlight. When I depressed the tun signal
button, the headlight came on, and the turn signals flashed!!!
This all leads me to believe that all the right stuff is there, it's
just not in the right places. Now I'm too busy getting our online
store ready (flipping the switch this week) to work on the danged
thing. Luckily, it's raining cats and dogs for the past week or so, so
I don't feel like I'm missing anything.
Phil Boutros
<snip>
>Now here's the really wierd part. The headlight dowsn't come on, but
>it looks like it's good, so while I had the bare wires (see item #1
>above) I clipped the hot and ground (from the rear turn signals) to
>the connectors on the headlight. When I depressed the tun signal
>button, the headlight came on, and the turn signals flashed!!!
Forget my comments about it not being a wiring problem.
I guess it's time for what I like to call the "Italian Cleanup".
That's when you sort through all the spaghetti that your wiring has
become!
I was treated to a damn good version of it at #63s place about a
month and a half or so ago...Of course, in his case, it was the spaghetti
behind the BatWing fairing. Spaghetti, courtesy of the MoFoMoCo (tm,
R.E.).
Phil...the "pass the sauce?" Asshole(tm)...
Gareth
Preacher wrote:
> allen-1 wrote:
>
> >Tony Greer <tgr...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >(to Gareth H.)
>
> >>You think I could I take a look at your FXE? I've got some ongoing
> >>wiring problems, and I can't track down where is't gone wrong...I been
> >>working on an '81 FXE for a month or so, trying to get the
> >>(aftermarke) turn signals to operate. At one point, they would light,
> >>but only while I held in the button. They've never flashed, and now
> >>that I changed the flasher, they don't do nuttin'
> >
> >
> >
> >Sounds like the aftermarket ones don't have enough resistance to trip
> >the blinker. There's a unit made by Badlands, called a "Turn Signal
> >Load Equalizer" designed to handle just that problem.
> >
> >Don't let Gareth anywhere near the wiring on your bike. He'll set it
> >on fire. Trust me.
>
> Amen to *that* allen- 1!
> Gareth is a fire looking for a place to happen.
Hang on a minute. I didn't even get the first post here asking for my help, and
I'm gettin' bagged on already.
I like to think of my excursions into uncharted wiring territory a public
service. I do have to say though, that both of the bikes I had little (ahem)
incidents on, were just the end result of 20 odd years of crappy fixes by
previous owners. They both had that insulation tape and forty leads all stuck to
battery look that bikes tend to get after a few years. Couple that with me
trying to fix things up a bit and you see the results. I let the smoke out of
the wires on more than one occaision . Good excuse for a rebuild though.
As for indicators. I have a set on both bikes. They reside at the end of my
arms, and leave the bike with me. Simplify. I replaced *all* the wiring,
switches, relays, cables and breakers on both bikes with new bone stock
harnesses, and marine quailty 1500 strand cables. I took off all the systems
that I don't use, which is just about everything bar ignition and lights, and
we're all happy now. I can even refer to the stock wiring diagrams if I need to
. A new harness is about $80, and takes about a day to fit.
>
> But the end results of the fire are nothing short of spectacular. Have you
> seen his bike? Damn, it's FINE. He posted a few .jpg's of it awhile back on
> abpmh, right after he put it back together and they really don't do it
> justice, even though it looks great in pictures.
Now you're making me blush. It's looking even nicer since Rupert sold me his
fork brace and boot covers. I'll repost the pictures in a.p.b.m.h, mainly to
show allen-1 what color a manly bike is painted.
> You should see it live. I
> loved it before it was "resurrected out of the ashes of the flames of his
> wiring" (he should name it "The Phoenix"!)
That's a good idea. I was going to call it "Eric"
> but he outdid himself with his
> rebuild work. Of course I'm a sucker for polished cases and billet pieces on
> a engine too! ;^)
I now have shares in Mother's polish. You can see fly shit at 100 paces on the
damn thing.
> And it ain't all "flash" either. He did "a little" engine
> work to it while he was in there.
Courtesy of the good burghers at S&S, and Messrs Leinweber and Rivera. I swear
you could pull a truck with it now.
>
>
> If ya ever get a chance, try and take a gander at his scoot. Fuckin'
> bitchin'. The flame job is just *too* cool. I like the way they "fade in" at
> the front of the tank... kind'a hard to explain, you'd have to see pictures
> of it to understand.
Larry just did another for me for Jennifer's bike. It's one of the nicest that
I've seen. It's a Brandywine over gold flake with smoky blue/silver ghost
flames. It looks like wisps of cigarette smoke. I'm quite jealous.
>
>
> Now he's decided to rip apart his Wife's (Jennifer) scoot and rebuild it
> too!
> Heh heh heh, I don't think *he'll* be "gettin' any" for a long looonnnnng
> time.
This is news to me in what way ? I suggested that she have a putt on the rebel
this weekend if she missed her bike. You know, although I appreciated her reply,
I don't think that the Rebel will actually fit there.