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Maggie

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Dec 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/10/98
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Can someone give me a guesstimate for a custom paint job, two tone w/trix,
powder coat the frame. I will tear down myself. I am thinking about 1½ -2 k. Am
I dreaming? Also, forgive my ignorance, WTF is Imron (sp)TIA
MaGGie


Merrell Wasson

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Dec 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/10/98
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yoohoo, mr panhead. your phone's a ringing. or is that painter john?


the big easy. expert opinion needed.
#39


Panhead

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Dec 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/10/98
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Maggie wrote:
>
> Can someone give me a guesstimate for a custom paint job, two tone w/trix,
> powder coat the frame.

About a gazillion duckets...but that of course is with Fruit
Loops™ (Trix are extra.. and for kids!!)
Powder coating the frame is rather cheap ..unless you want
mauve.

> I will tear down myself. I am thinking about 1½ -2 k.

That's pretty pricey just for you to tear it down...but, if you
insist....
(or are we talking poundage?)

> Am
> I dreaming?

I assume.

> Also, forgive my ignorance, WTF is Imron (sp)TIA

TIA? (tits-In-Ass?) ahem...

Anyway, "Imron™" is a paint product made by the DuPont
Corporation.
It is known as a "Poly Urethane". (or perhaps " URETHANE")" Who
cares?
Nice paint I guess but, I would never use it, consider it, or
recommend it unless I hated someone. But, then again that's my
opinion.

If I were you, I would consider the "Pukemaker2000" paint job,
over the Belchfire.
Cheaper, Longer lasting, and stands up better to the ROTO-PLOOK
#666 "Flamefest" when all plugs are firing in it's "holiday"
bliss!

Hope that helps.

Panhead

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Dec 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/10/98
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Merrell Wasson wrote:

>
> "Maggie" <mag...@mvp.net> wrote:
> >
> >Can someone give me a guesstimate for a custom paint job, two tone
> w/trix,
> >powder coat the frame. I will tear down myself. I am thinking about 1½ -
> 2 k. Am
> >I dreaming? Also, forgive my ignorance, WTF is Imron (sp)TIA
> >MaGGie
> >
>
> yoohoo, mr panhead. your phone's a ringing. or is that painter john?

And off the hook it was!

However, I answered this the best that I could.
Perhaps a professional like John can help out and give us all
some tips?

Chris Troudt

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Dec 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/10/98
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Maggie wrote:
>
> Can someone give me a guesstimate for a custom paint job, two tone w/trix,
> powder coat the frame. I will tear down myself. I am thinking about 1½ -2 k. Am

> I dreaming? Also, forgive my ignorance, WTF is Imron (sp)TIA
> MaGGie

Powder coating the frame black will run ya about $300
in my neck-o-the-woods. You may want to do a little
smoothin' on that pup first though. As far as the custom
paint job...depends on whose got the best deal on a case
of rattle-cans. ;-) Actually...I believe Panhead will
be chimin' in on this thread 'fore long...as soon as he
gets done untangling the air hose from around his feet
and stops off at the fresh pot of simmerin' fishball
soup for a qick stir.

--
Later,
CT AH#40

Painter John

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Dec 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/11/98
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Maggie wrote:
>
> Can someone give me a guesstimate for a custom paint job, two tone >w/trix,
> powder coat the frame. I will tear down myself. I am thinking about 1½ >-2 k. Am
> I dreaming? Also, forgive my ignorance, WTF is Imron (sp)TIA
> MaGGie

I just caught this thread... It was I who was tangled up in the air
hose... and those fumes.... <g>

1½ to 2k will buy you a nice two tone and maybe some mild trix... $'s
for the trick work is figured in time so the price can go up drastically
depending on how far you want to take it. Some of the finest work I've
seen in this field belongs to an artist named Dawn Holmes.. She's good
and also very expensive.. This Biketoberfest I asked the owner of one of
her paint jobs, "How much?".... 12k was the reply...ouch!!! but the work
was flawless.

Powdercoating is a good way to go on the frame... molding and painting
to match a custom is time consuming and thus very expensive. When
acquiring quotes from the powder coater, make sure you get quotes on his
best urethane powder and that it's phosphate dipped before the
coating... this is for adhesion and corrosion protection. There are many
grades of powder just like conventional paints.. a cheap powder job is
no better than a cheap paint job..

Imron, like Panhead said is a Urethane enamel. It used to be a great
product, but the good ol' EPA came down on Dupont and made them take out
some key ingredients (in 1982) and now ain't worth a shit IMHO.

There's nothing wrong with dreaming.... that's where we all get some of
our great ideas...
--

Ride Custom,
Painter John
Remove ‘ainter’from my address to reply
<"http://users.leading.net/~painterj">

Preacher

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Dec 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/11/98
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Maggie wrote:
>
> Can someone give me a guesstimate for a custom paint job, two tone w/trix,
> powder coat the frame. I will tear down myself. I am thinking about 1½ -2 k. Am
> I dreaming? Also, forgive my ignorance, WTF is Imron (sp)TIA
> MaGGie

What year is your bike? I ask because ALL Harley-Davidson frames since
1984 are powder coated.

So why do you want to powder coat it? A different color perhaps? (other
then black)

Pre-1984 bike?

Dings/scratches?

Just curious.

BTW, a "fair" custom paint job in my parts (Central coast of Calif)
runs about 1500-1800 bucks exchange.

More for the high dollar jobs, less for the 'plain' jobs.


Preacher

Maggie

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Dec 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/11/98
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Thanks for the reply John,

Painter John wrote in message <367132C4...@bellsouth.net>...
:Maggie wrote:
<snip>
:1½ to 2k will buy you a nice two tone and maybe some mild trix... $'s


:for the trick work is figured in time so the price can go up drastically
:depending on how far you want to take it. Some of the finest work I've
:seen in this field belongs to an artist named Dawn Holmes..

<snip>

You're right, I have seen her work, beautiful but way outta my budget <g>
:
:Powdercoating is a good way to go on the frame... molding and painting


:to match a custom is time consuming and thus very expensive. When
:acquiring quotes from the powder coater, make sure you get quotes on his
:best urethane powder and that it's phosphate dipped before the
:coating... this is for adhesion and corrosion protection. There are many
:grades of powder just like conventional paints.. a cheap powder job is
:no better than a cheap paint job..

This is especially helpful, I know very little about powder coating other than
*how* it's done but I have heard it's pretty durable and relatively cheap.
:
:Imron, like Panhead said is a Urethane enamel. It used to be a great


:product, but the good ol' EPA came down on Dupont and made them take out
:some key ingredients (in 1982) and now ain't worth a shit IMHO.

Yeppers they (EPA) gotta finger in everything, same deal with good chrome
plating. Well with the both of ya's having this opinion I guess Imron's out.
:
:There's nothing wrong with dreaming.... that's where we all get some of
:our great ideas...

Yep, like ol' Bonnie Raitt sez, "If dreams were thunder, lightnin' was desire,
this old house woulda burned down, a long time ago".... IMHO a way under-rated
entertainer.

Again thanks for the info. `Tender put John on me tab fer the night.
MaGGie
:--

Maggie

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Dec 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/11/98
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Preacher wrote in message <3671A4...@home.in.Ca>...

:Maggie wrote:
:>
:> Can someone give me a guesstimate for a custom paint job, two tone w/trix,
<schnip>

:What year is your bike? I ask because ALL Harley-Davidson frames since
:1984 are powder coated.

It's an 84 (the frame anyways) she's a Frauhlinstein <g>
:
:So why do you want to powder coat it? A different color perhaps? (other
:then black)
<schnip mo>

Welp, the frame was at one time red and was just painted over that. Needs some
serious, strippin, smoothing and minor repair. Chips and dings aplenty. I will
go back to black with it.


Thanks for the reply, lemme get ya a drink.
MaGGie

Barry L. Van Hook

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Dec 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/12/98
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In article <S3ic2.976$fu2.12...@typhoon.stlnet.com> "Maggie" <mag...@mvp.net> writes:

>Yep, like ol' Bonnie Raitt sez, "If dreams were thunder, lightnin' was desire,
>this old house woulda burned down, a long time ago".... IMHO a way under-rated
>entertainer.

Probably, but she just repeated it ... John Prine sed it .... and Bonnie Koloc
made it her own.

Barry #36
an' most don't know WTF I'm talkin' about

Barry L. Van Hook (van...@asu.edu)
Management Department, College of Business
Arizona State University, Tempe, AZ 85287-4006
Phone (602) 965-1217 FAX (602) 965-8314

Mark Fuller

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Dec 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/12/98
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Barry L. Van Hook wrote in message ...

>In article <S3ic2.976$fu2.12...@typhoon.stlnet.com> "Maggie"
<mag...@mvp.net> writes:
>
>>Yep, like ol' Bonnie Raitt sez, "If dreams were thunder, lightnin' was
desire,
>>this old house woulda burned down, a long time ago".... IMHO a way
under-rated
>>entertainer.
>
>Probably, but she just repeated it ... John Prine sed it .... and Bonnie
Koloc
>made it her own.
>
>Barry #36
>an' most don't know WTF I'm talkin' about


Angel from Montgomery, John Prine 1971. But some of us *do* know what
you're talkin' about.

Maggie

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Dec 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/12/98
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Yep, yer absolutely right Barry, but still one of her best *covers*

Barry L. Van Hook wrote in message ...
:In article <S3ic2.976$fu2.12...@typhoon.stlnet.com> "Maggie"
<mag...@mvp.net> writes:
:
:>Yep, like ol' Bonnie Raitt sez, "If dreams were thunder, lightnin' was desire,
:>this old house woulda burned down, a long time ago".... IMHO a way under-rated
:>entertainer.
:
:Probably, but she just repeated it ... John Prine sed it .... and Bonnie Koloc
:made it her own.
:
:Barry #36
:an' most don't know WTF I'm talkin' about

:
:Barry L. Van Hook (van...@asu.edu)

Barry L. Van Hook

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Dec 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/13/98
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>Maggie wrote:
>>
>> Can someone give me a guesstimate for a custom paint job, two tone >w/trix,
>> powder coat the frame. I will tear down myself. I am thinking about 1½ >-2 k.
>Am
>> I dreaming? Also, forgive my ignorance, WTF is Imron (sp)TIA
>> MaGGie

Piggybackin' here .... Maggie, did you see the scans of my fxr when I posted
them before .... that paint job was less than your budgeted amount .... black
with traditional hotrod flames outlined in process blue pinstripes. Didn't
include the frame .... but did include both fenders, tank, and ness side
covers ... these were all new tin/plastic. Ping me if you need more
info/name, etc.

Barry #36
see it at http://www.public.asu.edu/~icblv/harley.htm

Maggie

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Dec 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/15/98
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Barry L. Van Hook wrote in message ...
:>Maggie wrote:
:>>
:>> Can someone give me a guesstimate for a custom paint job, two tone >w/trix,


:Piggybackin' here .... Maggie, did you see the scans of my fxr when I posted


:them before .... that paint job was less than your budgeted amount .... black
:with traditional hotrod flames outlined in process blue pinstripes

<snip>


I did, (and saved `em) *very* nice scooter. The paint job has been bumped out
until next year by other pressing muddersickle black holes. Don't ask ::::MaGGie
hopin' it's just a shiftin fork::::
MaGGie
:Barry #36

:Phone (602) 965-1217 FAX (602) 965-8314


nestedin...@mailcity.com

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Dec 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/29/98
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In article <74u8er$l...@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com>,
"Mark Fuller" <m.fu...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> Angel from Montgomery, John Prine 1971. But some of us *do* know what
> you're talkin' about.


Uh-huh.

There's a duet of the two of 'em on Prine's 'Great Days' anthology.

Prine was evidently quite a hell raiser himself.

Ed

*********
'sings like an angel....eats like a horse'- J. Prine


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