Little help to a Dyna Conv owner...?
tcop...@my-dejanews.com
Just bought a '96 Dyna Convertable after being off my Sporty for 10+ years and
it seems like a great ride...what a dif from the older ('66) bike I had :)
Anyway, it's pretty stock, save for a few chromies, and an S&S Carb. It sure
seems cold blooded however, for the first 4-5 miles I need the choke to keep
it idleing, and I'm in South Fla! Not too big of a problem, but am I running
it too rich for too long? Will it eventually foul the plugs?
My first order of business is a set of forward controls such as the Dyna WG
has. I've seached Deja News, but found no help on any threads on the subject.
Im not sure about a used set, but if I could find a set in great condition I
would consider used, if the bushings, ect were O.K. Could I look for a set
off other Dyna series bikes, or must it have come from a convertable? Also
interested in a good parts store in Palm Beach County, if anyone has
recomendations.
Thanks for any help.
T.
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>
>Anyway, it's pretty stock, save for a few chromies, and an S&S Carb. It sure
>seems cold blooded however, for the first 4-5 miles I need the choke to keep
>it idleing, and I'm in South Fla! Not too big of a problem, but am I running
>it too rich for too long? Will it eventually foul the plugs?
>
This is definitely not right. Sounds like your carb, for whatever
reason, isn't tuned right. Your jetting might be off. Are you the
original owner? Did the bike come from somewhere else that it may have
been set up for? How old are the plugs, and the air cleaner element?
You do not want to run with the choke out, and you shouldn.t have to.
Living where you do, warm-up shouldn't take long at all.
>My first order of business is a set of forward controls such as the Dyna WG
>has. I've seached Deja News, but found no help on any threads on the subject.
>Im not sure about a used set, but if I could find a set in great condition I
>would consider used, if the bushings, ect were O.K. Could I look for a set
>off other Dyna series bikes, or must it have come from a convertable? Also
>interested in a good parts store in Palm Beach County, if anyone has
>recomendations.
I had forward controls put on my old '95 Convert. They were the stock
ones just like the Wide Glides have- if you look in the new '99 parts
book on p. 140, you'll see the kit- part # 49080-93.
The forward controls worked, and continue to do so, very well for me.
I hated the mid-control foot position.
--
LESDL
80 Inch RK 88 Inch WG
74 Inch Asshole(tm)
Dana Taramina
tcop...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> Hello all:
>
> Just bought a '96 Dyna Convertable after being off my Sporty for 10+ years and
> it seems like a great ride...what a dif from the older ('66) bike I had :)
You have exceptional taste in motorcycles. :^)
> Anyway, it's pretty stock, save for a few chromies, and an S&S Carb. It sure
> seems cold blooded however, for the first 4-5 miles I need the choke to keep
> it idleing, and I'm in South Fla! Not too big of a problem, but am I running
> it too rich for too long? Will it eventually foul the plugs?
Roxie is a *very* cold-hearted bike. Always has been. I try not to use the choke
that much, because she'll foul plugs easily. (I have the stock carb though...) I
run the choke for, oh, long enough to put my gloves and helmet on and that's it.
Just have to be persuasive with the throttle for the first 5 minutes or so.. after
I get off my little dirt road I have about 10 miles of usually uninterrupted
straight road, so by the time I get to the first signal she's warmed up...
Can't help you with the forward controls. Never been interested in them m'self...I
heel shift.
Dana
Bitch 16 Wench 22
'96 FXDS-Conv "Roxie"
Thom Copeand
<more snippage of my coldblooded motor story>
> This is definitely not right. Sounds like your carb, for whatever
> reason, isn't tuned right. Your jetting might be off. Are you the
> original owner? Did the bike come from somewhere else that it may have
> been set up for? How old are the plugs, and the air cleaner element?
> You do not want to run with the choke out, and you shouldn.t have to.
> Living where you do, warm-up shouldn't take long at all.
>
Hmmm...could be carb problem, eh? I wonder if the tubes were adjusted when
the S&S was installed, or even if they need to be? I've been told the
previous owner lived here in S. Fla, and have no reason to doubt it. Plugs
look O.K. but not new, and air filter is good. Maybe I'll get a different set
of plugs and see if that helps. I'll be due for the 5K service soon, maybe
they can check it out as well. It's just weird that it take a good 3 miles to
warm up to idle well in 70 degree weather. My bud (Herit Springer) pushes his
choke in after 2 blocks!
<snipped forward control question>
> I had forward controls put on my old '95 Convert. They were the stock
> ones just like the Wide Glides have- if you look in the new '99 parts
> book on p. 140, you'll see the kit- part # 49080-93.
>
I assume without drilling, welding, ect? Is it a fairly easy instalation? You
seem to be the 2nd experienced rider who said "had it done". Something best
left to the experts?
> The forward controls worked, and continue to do so, very well for me.
> I hated the mid-control foot position.
> --
>
> LESDL
> 80 Inch RK 88 Inch WG
> 74 Inch Asshole(tm)
>
I agree, it's uncomfortable, and a downright un-natural riding position, IMO.
Thanks for your input.
Thom Copeand
Dana Taramina <dana...@sympatico.spamicide.ca> wrote:
> You have exceptional taste in motorcycles. :^)
Thanks...always loved the Glides lines, but would like to be able to cruise
comfy with shield and bags if I want to. Seemed a pretty good fit for me :)
<snipped stuff on cold blooded carb or whatever>
> Can't help you with the forward controls. Never been interested in them
m'self...I
> heel shift.
>
> Dana
> Bitch 16 Wench 22
> '96 FXDS-Conv "Roxie"
>
I stopped by a local watering hole and noted an older DynaWG, without the
forward controls, just highway pegs. I noted to the owner who was leaving as
to the absence of the controls, to which he replied "mines on my boot". It
didnt hit me for sec, until I looked at his foot, and sure nuff, he's got a
3" spur looking thing on his left boot. Worked great too, as he roared up
US#1. Certainly cheaper than the 3 bills I'm about to spill for a set.
Dana Taramina
Dana Taramina wrote:
> Roxie is a *very* cold-hearted bike. Always has been. I try not to use the choke
> that much, because she'll foul plugs easily. (I have the stock carb though...)
I should have said almost stock carb. I do have a Yost Power Tube, and the carb has
been rejetted appropriately...
Dana Taramina
Thom Copeand wrote:
> II stopped by a local watering hole and noted an older DynaWG, without the
> forward controls, just highway pegs. I noted to the owner who was leaving as
> to the absence of the controls, to which he replied "mines on my boot". It
> didnt hit me for sec, until I looked at his foot, and sure nuff, he's got a
> 3" spur looking thing on his left boot. Worked great too, as he roared up
> US#1. Certainly cheaper than the 3 bills I'm about to spill for a set.
>
huh....interesting idea....never even occured to me. (ShopPING on Main Street in
Sturgis-ladies? Anyone wanna go???) >8^}
Lee Petersen
>
> Hello all:
>
> Just bought a '96 Dyna Convertable after being off my Sporty for 10+ years and
> it seems like a great ride...what a dif from the older ('66) bike I had :)
>
> seems cold blooded however, for the first 4-5 miles I need the choke to keep
> it idleing, and I'm in South Fla! Not too big of a problem, but am I running
> it too rich for too long? Will it eventually foul the plugs?
You should never run an S&S carb with the enrichment device
on for longer than it takes to start the bike - it will foul
plugs quickly otherwise. If it is jetted right and there are
no other problems, the bike should run fine without the
enrichment device almost immediately, although it won't idle
at the correct rpm until the motor is fully warm.
What intermediate jet do you have in there? It sounds like
either the intermediate jet is too small (lean) or there
is some other problem like fuel constriction (dirty filter,
pinched line?), manifold leaks, or a worn throttle shaft or
enrichment device.
Lee Petersen
#sixty
LE...@ix.netcom.com
<tcop...@my-dejanews.com> squinted and tapped out:
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>
>> I had forward controls put on my old '95 Convert. They were the stock
>> ones just like the Wide Glides have- if you look in the new '99 parts
>> book on p. 140, you'll see the kit- part # 49080-93.
>>
>
>I assume without drilling, welding, ect? Is it a fairly easy instalation? You
>seem to be the 2nd experienced rider who said "had it done". Something best
>left to the experts?
>
I am not a wrench, and I'm not ashamed to admit it. Relocation of the
controls in a stock- mid setup involves removal of the outer primary
cover and moving the shifter from the outside to the inside where the
linkage comes up next to the cylinder bases. I'm sure it's simple
enough for an experienced wrench but way beyond my bolt-on
capabilities.
>> The forward controls worked, and continue to do so, very well for me.
>> I hated the mid-control foot position.
>>
>
>I agree, it's uncomfortable, and a downright un-natural riding position, IMO.
I found it dangerous- when you're cruising with your feet forward and
need to react suddenly, you lose precious fractions of a second or
more in relocating your feet to brake and/or shift.
>
>Thanks for your input.
>
You're very welcome.
--
LESDL
80" RK 88" WG
74" Asshole(tm)
Thom Copeand
> You should never run an S&S carb with the enrichment device
> on for longer than it takes to start the bike - it will foul
> plugs quickly otherwise. If it is jetted right and there are
> no other problems, the bike should run fine without the
> enrichment device almost immediately, although it won't idle
> at the correct rpm until the motor is fully warm.
>
You got it...those first stops have me goosing the thing to keep it running.
> What intermediate jet do you have in there? It sounds like
> either the intermediate jet is too small (lean) or there
> is some other problem like fuel constriction (dirty filter,
> pinched line?), manifold leaks, or a worn throttle shaft or
> enrichment device.
>
> Lee Petersen
> #sixty
>
Thanks for your input, but I'm still pretty clueless on the carb. Sounds like
I'll take it in a bit early for the 5K check and have a pro answer the jet
question. I havn't found any pinched lines, or dirty filters though.
T.
Thom Copeand
LE...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
<snip>
> I am not a wrench, and I'm not ashamed to admit it. Relocation of the
> controls in a stock- mid setup involves removal of the outer primary
> cover and moving the shifter from the outside to the inside where the
> linkage comes up next to the cylinder bases. I'm sure it's simple
> enough for an experienced wrench but way beyond my bolt-on
> capabilities.
I know what you mean, 15 years ago I thought nothing of tearing into my
Sporty (worth $3K), but I'm a little standoffish about opening up this beauty
alone ;) Sounds like I better enrich my local mech for this job when I get
the 5K checkup.
RE: stock position of controls
> >I agree, it's uncomfortable, and a downright un-natural riding position, IMO.
>
> I found it dangerous- when you're cruising with your feet forward and
> need to react suddenly, you lose precious fractions of a second or
> more in relocating your feet to brake and/or shift.
> >
> LESDL
> 80" RK 88" WG
> 74" Asshole(tm)
Heh, I've mastered the heel position for brake and downshift. Upshifting is
still a challange, however. I don't think I'll loose much reation time for the
brake, but the forward controls are the way to go for me.
Thanks again.
Mike & Pat
lot, underline that, cheaper than aftermarket parts. straight forward
installation and clean looking chrome, not like the early wide glide black
units. Chicago harley sells em at 20 % off book list. Hey, Im not in
chicago, in cal here but they give pretty good deals on phone sales. Sarge
PS shoulda tried the quicksilver carb on your convert, mine hasnt given a
problem in over 2 years and done a few states with it. :-)
Willa Carroll
LE...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> snip
> >
>
> I am not a wrench, and I'm not ashamed to admit it. Relocation of the
> controls in a stock- mid setup involves removal of the outer primary
> cover and moving the shifter from the outside to the inside where the
> linkage comes up next to the cylinder bases. I'm sure it's simple
> enough for an experienced wrench but way beyond my bolt-on
> capabilities.
>
Les... I'm not so sure about the primary removal on his '96. I installed forward
controls on my '93 FXDL and on my buddy's '93 FXR. Neither involved full removal
of the outer primary. Both sets of forward controls came with a cap to cover the
old shifter mount (in the inspection cover). Was a pain on these older (higher
mileage) bikes to get the "swivels" (whatever the @#$% they're called) off of the
original linkage though. Otherwise no sweat.... and we are _not_ wrenches.
BC - '93 FXDL and '99 FXD (wife's scoot)
Thomas Copeand
Willa Carroll <wcar...@realtyexecutives.net> wrote:
> LE...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
>
> > snip
> > >
> >
> > I am not a wrench, and I'm not ashamed to admit it. Relocation of the
> > controls in a stock- mid setup involves removal of the outer primary
> > cover and moving the shifter from the outside to the inside where the
> > linkage comes up next to the cylinder bases.
<more snipped>
> Les... I'm not so sure about the primary removal on his '96. I installed
forward
> controls on my '93 FXDL and on my buddy's '93 FXR. Neither involved full
removal
> of the outer primary.
<snipped>
>
> BC - '93 FXDL and '99 FXD (wife's scoot)
I'm currently considering either the HD (FXDW I think) or the KuryAkyn
controls. The KA are a bit cheaper (on sale now), but look great. I also have
KA pegs on the bike now, so I'm thinking the pegs will move up front o.k.
Anyone have any opinions on which set is best?
LESDL
<wcar...@realtyexecutives.net> flexed fingers and pecked:
>
>
>LE...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
>
>> snip
>> >
>>
>> I am not a wrench, and I'm not ashamed to admit it. Relocation of the
>> controls in a stock- mid setup involves removal of the outer primary
>> cover and moving the shifter from the outside to the inside where the
>> linkage comes up next to the cylinder bases. I'm sure it's simple
>> enough for an experienced wrench but way beyond my bolt-on
>> capabilities.
>>
>
>Les... I'm not so sure about the primary removal on his '96. I installed forward
>controls on my '93 FXDL and on my buddy's '93 FXR. Neither involved full removal
>of the outer primary. Both sets of forward controls came with a cap to cover the
>old shifter mount (in the inspection cover). Was a pain on these older (higher
>mileage) bikes to get the "swivels" (whatever the @#$% they're called) off of the
>original linkage though. Otherwise no sweat.... and we are _not_ wrenches.
>
How did you assemble the linkage, or get it thru, on the other side of
the primary?
--
Willa Carroll
capped. There is an "arm" sticking almost straight up from the case near the base of
the rear jug (left side of scoot) that you then connect the (now much longer) linkage
to. This is the shifter link that goes to the tranny. No removal of the primary is
needed... at least not on a '93. I doubt if the '96 is any different.
Dave
instructions could have been better. Wasn't that hard but would be a
bunch faster the second time around. No primary removal. You could do
it in the living room.
Dave
Thomas Copeand wrote:
>
> In article <36EA50FA...@realtyexecutives.net>,
> Willa Carroll <wcar...@realtyexecutives.net> wrote:
>
> > LE...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> >
> > > snip
> > > >
> > >
> > > I am not a wrench, and I'm not ashamed to admit it. Relocation of the
> > > controls in a stock- mid setup involves removal of the outer primary
> > > cover and moving the shifter from the outside to the inside where the
> > > linkage comes up next to the cylinder bases.
> <more snipped>
>
> > Les... I'm not so sure about the primary removal on his '96. I installed
> forward
> > controls on my '93 FXDL and on my buddy's '93 FXR. Neither involved full
> removal
> > of the outer primary.