Nitrogen in my Tires!
Capt. M. Smith
How would Nitrogen effect my bike if I filled my tires with it? Some say air
ain't worth a damn.
Al
Ryder Rick
Are you gonna tell me you can tell the difference in handling by air
pressure from cold to hot?
--
Ryder Rick
<it's dry air>
Ryder Rick
Fill them with helium and get better mileage.
--
Ryder Rick
<still working on mastering the Lock to Lock Figure 8>
Ric Fierabracci
> On 2008-07-12 08:10:56 -0700, "Capt. M. Smith" <Cap...@mil.com> said:
>
>> The hell with air!
>> How would Nitrogen effect my bike if I filled my tires with it? Some
>> say air
>> ain't worth a damn.
>
>
> Fill them with helium and get better mileage.
Makes it "lighter" sure, but having watched MANY a Bond, James Bond
movie, I would suggest pure Oxgygen... just in case you need something
to breath when shit happens!
I could tell you stories about how often I get trapped underwater with
nothing to breath but the "gas" from my tires... butt, I would be fibbing.
Philip Nasadowski
Your tires are already 78% nitrogen filled. Supposedly, oxygen diffuses
out of the rubber faster than nitrogen, thus the % should be higher in
theory.
What all these idiots pushing nitrogen fail to realize is that airliner
tires are filled with it for fire safety reasons, not performance.
Nitrogen's a cheap inert gas, and the last thing you want on an airplane
is a fire.
Al
> On 2008-07-12 08:10:56 -0700, "Capt. M. Smith" <Cap...@mil.com> said:
>
>> The hell with air!
>> How would Nitrogen effect my bike if I filled my tires with it? Some
>> say air
>> ain't worth a damn.
>
> Fill them with helium and get better mileage.
And pack 'em in dry ice between rides to keep the rubber cold so they
last longer.
Ryder Rick
> I believe that nitrogen simply expands and
> contracts less with changes in temperature, making your tire
> pressure stable at a range of temperatures.
Eggszackary!
Nitrogen has no moisture content, thus more temperature stabile. For
those who can tell the difference in tire pressure hot to cold.....
In the Sprint cars we installed bleeder valves that dumped excess
pressure when the tire heated up. 1 psi was a fairly significant
increase, without the bleeders we might see a 3 psi increase (at 10 PSI
that is 30%). EG: With a 10 psi target we could not start the race with
7 PSI, it would never make it through the first turn!
Using Nitrogen in the Sprinter tires was not an option as the internal
volume of the tire is so high it is not practical to purge it. I
imagine some might if they have a guy whose only job is to do the tires.
Scott
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> Philip Nasadowski <nasa...@usermale.com> wrote:
>
> :What all these idiots pushing nitrogen fail to realize is that airliner
> :tires are filled with it for fire safety reasons, not performance.
> :Nitrogen's a cheap inert gas, and the last thing you want on an airplane
> :is a fire.
>
> contracts less with changes in temperature, making your tire
> pressure stable at a range of temperatures.
>> There is plenty of air around in case of a fire. The air in the
>> tires isn't going to make any difference.
Correctamundo!
In diving we use argon to fill our dry suits, nitrogen in diving is not only
worthless but avoided.
The tires will be safe and long lived unless you trailer and do 300 miles a
year on a trailer.
Then, by all means, fill your tires with nitrogen.
If you aint buying new tires ever 35 to 50, you don't ride or have reason to
worry about mean ole mister air.
It costs nothing to fill a low tire with air.
What will you do if your nitrogen filled tire shits the bed out by Arco
Idaho?
You will fill it with air, if you can find someone to help you.
If all you do is pose from garage to bar, by all means, spend the money and
fill them with nitrogen.
And be sure to let everyone that will listen to you know that *your* tires
are filled with nitrogen, not that pussy air shit.
Argon is way cheaper, and more inert.
Philip Nasadowski
"Scott" <pugetso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> What will you do if your nitrogen filled tire shits the bed out by Arco
> Idaho?
Given Idaho National Laboratory is out there... ;)
If you're ever out there, DO see the EBR-I tourist trap/nuke reactor,
which has the nuclear jet engines (yes, they're real) out in the parking
lot.
Ric Fierabracci
> On 2008-07-12 12:38:02 -0700, SteveT <rm...@no48panspam.com> said:
>
>> I believe that nitrogen simply expands and
>> contracts less with changes in temperature, making your tire
>> pressure stable at a range of temperatures.
>
>
> Eggszackary!
>
> Nitrogen has no moisture content, thus more temperature stabile. For
> those who can tell the difference in tire pressure hot to cold.....
If you do as told, CHECK your tires regularly, then WHY would ANY IDIOT
pay more to accomplish nothing with a pricy gas that nobody offers?
Nothing wrong with the "GOOD AIR" I use.
Ryder Rick
Replace that stale 2007 air with specially formulated Summer Air.
This special batch of air has been scientifically adjusted to
compensate for global warming and perfectly balanced for your Harley
Davidson motorcycle.
Tests have shown a marked improvement over winter air and with the
recent weather changes Summer Air comes highly recommended.
Call for availability, satisfaction guaranteed.
All questions answered and other parts or labor as needed.
Ric Fierabracci
> On 2008-07-12 15:23:34 -0700, Ric Fierabracci <Chick...@Bass.gov.> said:
>
>> Ryder Rick wrote:
>>
>>> On 2008-07-12 12:38:02 -0700, SteveT <rm...@no48panspam.com> said:
>>>
>>>> I believe that nitrogen simply expands and
>>>> contracts less with changes in temperature, making your tire
>>>> pressure stable at a range of temperatures.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Eggszackary!
>>>
>>> Nitrogen has no moisture content, thus more temperature stabile. For
>>> those who can tell the difference in tire pressure hot to cold.....
>>
>>
>> If you do as told, CHECK your tires regularly, then WHY would ANY
>> IDIOT pay more to accomplish nothing with a pricy gas that nobody offers?
>>
>>
>> Nothing wrong with the "GOOD AIR" I use.
>
>
> Replace that stale 2007 air with specially formulated Summer Air.
I have a compressor still filled with GENUINE "04" air.
Jinks
Totally unnecessary! If air is good enough for your head, it's good
enough for your tires!
-
Jinks ('86FXRS, '07 FLTR)
#64
Remember, "No good deed goes unpunished"
dale_peterson
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Last I heard Capt. The atmosphere on this planet is 60 % or higher
Nitrogen, which pretty much puts it in the Air category.
Diddly
Old Crow
wrote:
> If air is good enough for your head, it's good
>enough for your tires!
>-
>
Words *I've* always lived by.
--
Old Crow
'82 FLTC(P)'Pearl'
'87 FLTC '?'
'95 Wrangler YJ
BS#132, TOMKAT, SENS, SLOB#13
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Stone
nitrogen to race (AMA Road Racing) at the track were our tire
pressures increase from us spinning up the tire and want them to
stabilize at a certain pressure. Once the tires have to much air
pressure they tend to spin more, heat up some more, increase the
pressure even more.....rinse repeat until you lose the desired grip it
takes to go fast.
But wadda I know......
Johan Rossi BS#229
> In article <4878c982$1$25523$82264...@news.adtechcomputers.com>,
> "Capt. M. Smith" <Capo...@mil.com> wrote:
>
> > The hell with air!
> > How would Nitrogen effect my bike if I filled my tires with it? Some say air
> > ain't worth a damn.
>
> Your tires are already 78% nitrogen filled. Supposedly, oxygen diffuses
> out of the rubber faster than nitrogen, thus the % should be higher in
> theory.
>
> What all these idiots pushing nitrogen fail to realize is that airliner
> tires are filled with it for fire safety reasons, not performance.
> Nitrogen's a cheap inert gas, and the last thing you want on an airplane
> is a fire.
Right. Reminds me of back in the day across the pond in Germany. Group
of fellas sittin' around havin' this same conversation, only it was in
German.
In an effort to improve performance on is sidecar rig, Das Bike, Eric
Von Streinerhieny decided he would put Hydrogen in his tires. It seems
that Mrs. Streinerhieny had put on a bunch or weight and was really
slowin him down.
Eric and his missus were pullin' in to the local Pub when he ran over
a nail 'bout the same time another fella pitched a cigar down on the
ground, right by the tire.
They were both consumed by the exploson and fire that erupted when the
Hydrogen that was leaking from the tire was ignited by the cigar.
Their charred remains were mistaken for Bratwurst by some, and
consumed. Oh the humanity!
--
John - stick with Helium
Blank
following well considered thoughts to the readers of
rec.motorcycles.harley:
|The hell with air!
|How would Nitrogen effect my bike if I filled my tires with it? Some say air
|ain't worth a damn.
|
Probably the only real difference is that compressed Nitrogen is
*very* dry. For aluminum wheels, it should virtually eliminate any
corrosion inside the tire. It makes sense to do this on a Boeing 747
(and is required), but I suspect any benefit to a motorcycle owner
would be minimal, at best.
John Wetton
Bragging rights.
Ryder Rick
Ahhh Further preservation of the "Hydrogen explosion" myth.
--
Ryder Rick
<it was the coating on the fabric not the hydrogen....>