97 360 ktm jetting
jim halbleib
anyone have recommendations for jetting a 97 ktm 360, my 96 300 was a
bitch to jet and i am picking up my new bike on thursday and want to
have a head start, already had the shop jet it 1/2 step leaner on the
main and pilot. altitude is about 1000 feet. any ideas or precautions
i should take.
ktmjim
mtr...@cohvco.org
The stock slide is usually to rich on the newer KTMs. The
stock slide is a #6. I run a 7.5 in my 97 300EXC at 6000
- 12000 ft. Slides are expensive but you can have the
stock slide cut for $20 or less. The last time I rode
down near Pheonix, which was around 1500ft I used a #7
slide. Here's the jetting I used the last time I was at
that altitude which should be close for the 360 also.
175 Main
48 Pilot
N85D Needle second clip from top
#7 Slide
Hope this helps.
Mike Troast 97 KTM300 EXC
Mark Klein
>anyone have recommendations for jetting a 97 ktm 360, my 96 300 was a
>bitch to jet and i am picking up my new bike on thursday and want to
>have a head start, already had the shop jet it 1/2 step leaner on the
>main and pilot. altitude is about 1000 feet. any ideas or precautions
>i should take.
The '96 360 was a nightmare to jet. Had to go to a leaner slide even.
Come to think of it, this was an early production 360 and I think the
later ones had a different head or something. May not be quite as bad
(maybe just a bad dream instead of a full blown nightmare). Good luck.
MX Tuner
Caribou1
I think they changed the squish band on the head. Pick the oil your
going to use, KTMs seem sensitive to that (golden spectro works for me).
Tried some Yamalube (I was in a bind) and it hated it - fouled plugs
like crazy, loaded up. Good thing they weren't the $18.50 NGK's :-)
--
Caribou 78 KTM 250 (AHRMA 626) "Katie"
95 KTM 300 MX/C "Sissy"
90 Intruder 1400 "Suzie"
Lynn 96 XR100 "Putt-Putt"
doc...@aol.com
jim halbleib <cal...@ntr.net> wrote:
>>anyone have recommendations for jetting a 97 ktm 360, my 96 300 was a
bitch to jet and i am picking up my new bike on thursday and want to
have a head start, already had the shop jet it 1/2 step leaner on the
main and pilot. altitude is about 1000 feet. any ideas or precautions
i should take.<<
I'm running:
165 Main Jet, stock needle, and 42 pilot. Works well for me at 1000 to
4000 elevation.
Doc
ssmye...@aol.com
You know, I still wonder why poeple think they have to re-jet a new bike
If it aint jetted right, have the dealer fix it. If they won't then
don't buy the bike from him. My friend is looking at a KTM and the dealer
we visited wants over $600 more than the competition ( He is at list, the
other guys are discounting).
But, he said that if you buy the bike from him, he will make you happy-
Jetting, suspension, gearing etc- The Bike will work the way you want it
to, period. Based on how he puts the bikes together and his promise to
make sure it is right seems like a good deal.
A lot of these dealers are selling the bikes at no margin and then
making all their money selling jets !
I saw a guy in a local shop buying new slides for a KX - at 95$ a pop-
He really got a deal on that bike didn't he ! He has had two riding trip
sspoiled by fouled plugs and hasn't enjoyed the bike at all- but he saved
a few bucks at the discounting dealer-
Anyways, I think it is insane tospend 5500$ on a new motorcycle and then
screw around with basic assembly and tuning items like the suspension,
jetting, etc.
Make the damn dealer do the jetting- if he can't or won't then don't
buy from him.
So There !
Scott Smyers '74 Penton 125 + 74 Penton 175 + 74 Penton 250
OHIO 82 Suzuki GS650 + 92 KTM 250T/XC +
93 Yamaha XT225 Serow + 74 Hodaka Wombat +
AHRMA 68 Suzuki TT125 Project Bike< :-o
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Mark Klein
Scott,
VERY few dealers will jet a bike for you at no cost let alone
suspension set up. Does set up include new springs? Where does the set
up end? How well is it jetted? Who decides when it is acceptable? Do
you believe him when he says that little flat spot off idle is normal?
MX Tuner
Tom Niemela
This will make the mighty 360 run like it should:
'96 Katoom 360:
*Make sure it does NOT have the cylinder head code #360-1(too much
compression)
*replace stock pipe and muffler - wrong stinger diameter on it. *45 or 48
pilot
*175 or 180 mainjet
*1467"NS" Honda needle - be SURE it says NS!
*reed spacer: KTM was trying to make more low end volume. Don't need it
if you're using the above mods.
'97 Katoom 360:
*just change jetting to above numbers
Note: both 250 and 360 needles for woods riding are too radical of fuel
delivery curve. Honda makes it more linear. The bike really does like
GOOD fuel i.e. race gas mix. Suggest approximately 1/3 race gas with
pump.
Hope that helps.
-Tom Niemela
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ssmye...@aol.com
>MX Tuner
I hear what you say, but Denny is different than most- He is a one man
shop, and is the only one to work on the bikes, so he makes sure they are
set up . Yes I have seen him change springs for poeple - he is good at
trading parts, he may replace your spring but he keeps your old ones and
chances are someone else may need it- I have traded parts with him, he
deals only in KTM's so he has a lot of used accessories as well. Also, he
rides (damn good too) and he knows if the jetting is right or not- but
also he can alter the bikes performance with the jetting to match the
customers desires- we all have different ideas of what is right- that flat
spot off idle may not be noticable to someone who is practicing his
re-grip off the triples, but may be terrible for a low-speed woods rider
who needs throttle response Denny has always gone the extra mile to make
sure his customers are happy- I am sure he has limits, but you have no
idea how good this guy is with bikes.
Denny has wrenched on a lot famous guys bikes as well, he was at the
Colorado 500 and put Malcolm Smith's bike together-
When he preps a bike here is what he does- (besides assembling them)
Removes most of the Chassis fasteners and loctites them when
replaced
Drills steering stem and hubs and installs zerk fittings
Pulls the axles and re-installs with grease so they can be removed
in the future
Lubes all Chassis bearings
reroutes cables (most times they are not routed right from the
factory)
Puts sealant on the spokes so they can be loosened later
re-oils filter and tranny
adjusts all controls & Chain
Adjusts bars & Controls to your satisfaction
Sets all the clickers where he thinks they should be for you
Torques Fork tubes properly
Jets the bike to his satisfaction - Rides it and makes sure it runs
correctly
Goes Riding with you when possible to ensure everything is working
right
Offers a 60 day warranty on his own (beyond KTM's 30 day, which is more
than you get anywhere else)
And I you have the time, he will do all of the above with you so you
can see the bike being assembled and learn all about it
His philosophy is that you should be able to ride the bike, not wrench
on it-
needless to say he is the exception- but is probably what a dealer
should be.
DOCWONG
Where is Denny located? And what's his phone number?
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Michael Nyland
ssmye...@aol.com wrote:
> I hear what you say, but Denny is different than most- He is a one man
>shop, and is the only one to work on the bikes, so he makes sure they are
<snip>
You guys will NEVER belive what happened! I was in the midddle of
typing this reply about how I wanted that guy's address because I
could be persuaded to switch for that kind of service when...Poof...my
machine rebooted right in the middle of me typing! Never mind, I
don't want to know who or where he is, I can take a hint. Thanks
anyway.
P.S. Don't you spell that KT? word Ctrl-Alt-Del?
Gomer
95 YZ250 (Old Man)
95 XR100 (Young kid)
96 50SXR (Younger kid)
Mark Klein
This guy must be a class act! I know of two other dealers like this.
Barry Higgins owns H&H KTM here in GA and Gerald Jones who owns
Upstate Cycle in SC. Both of these guys will go the extra mile. Gerald
sells Huskys and ATKs and has offered to meet me halfway between him
and me to deliver a part. That was the first time I ever talked to
him. I was impressed! Made me wonder what he might do for one of his
preferred customers.
> Offers a 60 day warranty on his own (beyond KTM's 30 day, which is more
>than you get anywhere else)
Check around. There are a few with a warranty. My RMX had either a 30
or 60 day warranty. My last YZ ('93) had a 30 day warranty. Don't know
about the new ones, though.
> needless to say he is the exception- but is probably what a dealer
>should be.
We can dream, can't we!!!
MX Tuner
Bruce Arnold
ssmye...@aol.com wrote:
>>Scott,
>>VERY few dealers will jet a bike for you at no cost let alone
>>suspension set up.
>
> I hear what you say, but Denny is different than most- He is a one man
>shop, and is the only one to work on the bikes, so he makes sure they are
(snip.. long list of things that he does to the bike ..snip)
> needless to say he is the exception- but is probably what a dealer
>should be.
>
This is a far cry from the dealer where I bought my XR-650L, KC's Honda in
Huntsville AL. While they treated me well, and gave me what I felt was a good
deal on my trade (1989 Honda Transalp - a V-twin dual-purpose bike), my bike
was not setup properly. It did not have enough oil to even show on the dip
stick, and it had 44-lbs of pressure in one tire and 35-lbs in the other
(22-lbs is recommended). In their defense, the XR requires a two-step process
to get the crankcase properly filled, but they should have known that.
In addition they have not had a single part that I ever needed (except a main
jet for my KTM). I used to be a automotive/truck parts man, so I know you
can't stock everything, but these are very common parts.
1982 XR-250R brake shoes
1985 XR-250R brake shoes (2 different times)
1993 XR-650L rear brake pads (same as XR-600)
1993 XR-650L front brake pads.
1993 XR-650L #160 main jet
Again, in their defense, the parts guys are nice, and they always get the
parts in a reasonable amount of time. There has also been other parts that I
needed, but they are not common parts, so I would not expect them to keep them
in stock.
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Bruce Arnold Honda XR-650L 1993
Gurley, AL (Huntsville area) KTM 250-T/XC 1992
br...@hmi.com Honda XR-100 1992 (wife's)
Mark Klein
>In addition they have not had a single part that I ever needed (except a main
>jet for my KTM). I used to be a automotive/truck parts man, so I know you
>can't stock everything, but these are very common parts.
>1982 XR-250R brake shoes
>1985 XR-250R brake shoes (2 different times)
>1993 XR-650L rear brake pads (same as XR-600)
>1993 XR-650L front brake pads.
>1993 XR-650L #160 main jet
Well, no wonder! There you go wearing out those brakes!! Bruce, you
should have known.
I know what you mean. The local Husky dealer didn't even have a clutch
lever.
MX Tuner
Bruce Arnold
mxt...@atl.mindspring.com (Mark Klein) wrote:
>
>>In addition they have not had a single part that I ever needed (except a main
>>jet for my KTM). I used to be a automotive/truck parts man, so I know you
>>can't stock everything, but these are very common parts.
>I know what you mean. The local Husky dealer didn't even have a clutch
>lever.
>
>MX Tuner
Oh yea, I forgot that they also didn't have a clutch lever for the Transalp
(an unusual bike so I can't really blame them). My wife and I had been
out riding double, and when we got close to home she said "Go up to the top
of the hill, and I will give you a b___ j__". Well, I started to do a
U-turn, dropped the bike in the middle of the road and broke the clutch
lever. Needless to say, I didn't get a b___ j__ that night.