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Uwe Hale

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YZPILOT2 <yzpi...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> the factory spectator is reporting that jeff emig was fired last night by
> kawasaki as the result of something that happened at lake havasu over the
> weekend.
> i dont know the particulars but as we all know, internet rumors have
been
> false before so guess we'll see what happens

There are threads in Mototalk saying that he got busted with pot. Some say
he had an open container of beer in a no tolerance area. Who knows?
Something should be published in a week or so.

I wonder whose message Davey Coombs will publish this time and arrange for
them to meet Jeff. <VBG>


Uwe Hale - 89 YZ250WR, 99 GasGas EC200

Mike Hobbs

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YZPILOT2 <yzpi...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> the factory spectator is reporting that jeff emig was fired last night by
> kawasaki as the result of something that happened at lake havasu over the
> weekend.
> i dont know the particulars but as we all know, internet rumors have
been
> false before so guess we'll see what happens

I just called Emig, he's not answering at home or on his cell phone. Called
his buddy Tony, not around but his secretary said she heard something about
Jeff getting busted. It doesn't look good for the Fro. If I find out
anything for sure I'll let you guys know.

Mike Hobbs

Mike Hobbs

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Fro has been released by Kawasaki.

Mike

Harvey

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>I heard Emig and Seth's corpse were doing blow, but I got that from my
>cousin's girfriend's mother's babysitter's dad who pulls parts at East
>Weetucket Kawasaki.
>

Termination was going to happen sooner or later... Damned shame 'bout what
he was doing to that poor old beagle though.

Harvey
'00 Pimp Daddy Foof Bike driver.

Jason

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SSmyers102 wrote in message
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>I always thought Emig was too focused on his image and not enough on the
>riding.
>I knew his career was over when he got involved with Shift.
>


Yeah, the 250 SX Championship and the 250 MX Championship that he won while
wearing Shift really hurt his career.

sTeVe?

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On 27 Aug 1999 19:56:26 GMT, yzpi...@aol.com (YZPILOT2) wrote:

>the factory spectator is reporting that jeff emig was fired last night by
>kawasaki as the result of something that happened at lake havasu over the
>weekend.
> i dont know the particulars but as we all know, internet rumors have been
>false before so guess we'll see what happens

I heard Emig and Seth's corpse were doing blow, but I got that from my


cousin's girfriend's mother's babysitter's dad who pulls parts at East
Weetucket Kawasaki.

Steve
aged CR270 pilot
(Disclaimer: any resemblance between this and a factual post is
striclty coincidental. If you are stupid enough to buy this, or worse
yet, repeat it, please don't say you heard it from me.)
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SCW

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I wonder if Todd Heemsbergen has any of those "Fro Rides Clean" t-shirts
left. They'll be collectors items!

Seriously, I hope it's another internet urban legend.


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> YZPILOT2 <yzpi...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:19990827155626...@ng-fs1.aol.com...

> > the factory spectator is reporting that jeff emig was fired last night
by
> > kawasaki as the result of something that happened at lake havasu over
the
> > weekend.
> > i dont know the particulars but as we all know, internet rumors have
> been
> > false before so guess we'll see what happens
>

SSmyers102

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I always thought Emig was too focused on his image and not enough on the
riding.
I knew his career was over when he got involved with Shift.

And yes i know that he is faster than me- and anyone i know- but when you are a
pro you need to act professional- not like a punk.

Serial # 19781010

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Pulled this off the Motocross web site. Hope it clears it up a bit.

http://www.motocross.com/

In a shocking development last night, Jeff Emig was officially let go
from his contract at Kawasaki USA. According to sources close to
Motocross.com, Emig had an altercation with local authorities while on
vacation at Lake Havasu, AZ. Apparently, Emig was walking home and was
stopped by local authorities. Although Jeff had no drugs or illegal
substances, Arizona has a No Tolerance Law. Emig was cited for
possession of illegal paraphernalia. Kawasaki then contacted Emig at
approximately 8pm Thursday evening explaining to him that because of
the incident, he was being let go from his obligations at Kawasaki
USA, and will not be representing Kawasaki at Binghamton, or Steel
City. Emig had one year left on his contract.


Bryan


On 27 Aug 1999 19:56:26 GMT, yzpi...@aol.com (YZPILOT2) wrote:

Tim (fusion1)

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bsmu...@hotmail.com (Serial # 19781010) wrote:

>Pulled this off the Motocross web site. Hope it clears it up a bit.

Man, this sucks! I hope he can hook up with a private team that isn't
as image conscious (not that I condone what he did, or disagree with
what Kawasaki did).
Jeff's a likable and personable guy. I'd like to see him get
everything back together quickly.

The whole situation reminds me a lot of Ron "The Machine" Lechien.
It's kind of sad, but the guys that have natural talent seldom value
it.

Tim


SX Fans

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From: bsmu...@hotmail.com (Serial # 19781010)

<Pulled this off the Motocross web site. Hope it clears it up a bit.
<http://www.motocross.com/
<In a shocking <<SNIP>>
<Bryan

bsmurf12...... Interesting, I am hopeing this is just bs! (bullshit)
Stan........

Uwe Hale

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Serial # 19781010 wrote:

> Emig was cited for
> possession of illegal paraphernalia.

Wow, wonder what it was?

Uwe


Dave Dude

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On Sat, 28 Aug 1999 06:28:41 GMT, bsmu...@hotmail.com (Serial #
19781010) wrote:

>Pulled this off the Motocross web site. Hope it clears it up a bit.
>
>http://www.motocross.com/
>

>In a shocking development last night, Jeff Emig was officially let go
>from his contract at Kawasaki USA. According to sources close to
>Motocross.com, Emig had an altercation with local authorities while on
>vacation at Lake Havasu, AZ. Apparently, Emig was walking home and was
>stopped by local authorities. Although Jeff had no drugs or illegal
>substances, Arizona has a No Tolerance Law.

snip

Hey check this out!! Video of Emig at the scene!!!

http://www.dfilm.com/new_site/userMovies/dwight13513.html

Dave Dude
96yz250

Mike Baxter

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Dave Dude wrote:

>
>
> Hey check this out!! Video of Emig at the scene!!!
>
> http://www.dfilm.com/new_site/userMovies/dwight13513.html
>
> Dave Dude
> 96yz250

:-) says it all!

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>Hey check this out!! Video of Emig at the scene!!!
>
>http://www.dfilm.com/new_site/userMovies/dwight13513.html
>
>Dave Dude
>96yz250

DUDE!!!!...LOL...!!!!!
Real bummer if true..hope not!!...but the vid is funny as heck!!!
LONG LIVE THE TEAM!

JOKER....(Steve)
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'88KX250 (napping in the basement.)
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NATMAR1

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>Man, this sucks! I hope he can hook up with a private team that isn't
>as image conscious

I don't know the timing of 'Fro being busted, but in the last few weeks he has
been practicing at some of the local SoCal motocross tracks on a YZ.

MMMarvalus

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>> Emig was cited for
>> possession of illegal paraphernalia.
>
>Wow, wonder what it was?
>

Everyone should be aware that in this statee, home of the late Barry
Goldwater, and the (almost) living Dan Quayle, Matt Salmon, and JD Hayworth,
many things are often construed as "illegal" paraphenalia. I'm not necessarily
defending Emig, but I do think Kawasaki has been looking for a way to end their
support for him without paying him another year's worth of salary. I think
they finally got lucky.

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Sean Crothers

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>I don't know the timing of 'Fro being busted, but in the last few weeks he
has
>been practicing at some of the local SoCal motocross tracks on a YZ.

????? where did u hear that from??? he was fast on the yz, even though he
won 3 championships on the kawi. and team yamaha, not chapparal but
factory yamaha needs some good riders. badly

Mike Hobbs

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Jeff Emig was arrested for possession of a Marijuana pipe. (Emig says it
was not his.) Emig told Kawasaki he would take a drug test but Kawasaki
released him without a test. Davey Coombs is doing an interview with Jeff
tomorrow. Also, a press release will be issued on Monday.

We don't do MX but thought you'd be interested, so we posted it here.

Mike Hobbs
Editorial Director
http://www.off-road.com/dirtbike

Mike Hobbs

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I'm not seeing my posts so this my be a repeat.

J Payer

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Mike Hobbs wrote:

> Davey Coombs is doing an interview with Jeff tomorrow.

Where/when will this interview be published or aired?

J&K

Special thanks to the following:
Jim Cook at www.Smackovermotorsports.com Jeff at www.mxsouth.com and
John Duffy at www.appliedrace.com


J Payer

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NATMAR1 wrote:

> I don't know the timing of 'Fro being busted, but in
> the last few weeks he has been practicing at some of
> the local SoCal motocross tracks on a YZ.

I don't know about the validity of this, but at any rate I do think 'Fro
needed a change of scenery. The guy is so ultra talented and, in the
two times I've interacted with him, has been very fan friendly and
personable. I just think the guy needs a fresh start, and I really hope
he lands on two feet from this incident.

Mike Hetrick

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In article <19990828184915...@ng-fv1.aol.com>, mmmar...@aol.com.Arizona (MMMarvalus) wrote:
>>> Emig was cited for
>>> possession of illegal paraphernalia.
>>
>>Wow, wonder what it was?
>>
>
>Everyone should be aware that in this statee, home of the late Barry
>Goldwater, and the (almost) living Dan Quayle, Matt Salmon, and JD Hayworth,
>many things are often construed as "illegal" paraphenalia. I'm not necessarily
>defending Emig,

I am. What a bunch of crap. Wheres the victim. This is the reason I did not
become a cop. I have problems with crimes that don't have a victim other than
the perpetrator. And I don't care about the 'figurehead' crap. Like a japanese
business has any right to claim moral outrage.

Maybe Vance and Hines will throw a Ducati on the SX circuit.

Guess I am just a Dinosaur from the 70's.

Politically Incorrect Mike

Jap Bikes Rule

Mike Hetrick
2000 Kawasaki KX-250
ICQ 15554859

Mike Hetrick

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In article <19990829135817...@ng-fu1.aol.com>, mr...@aol.com (MRRMX) wrote:

>>Tim
>All he has to do is say he didnt inhale...
>It worked for Clinton didnt it?
>

Right on, Bro. You can be the President of the most powerful nation in the
free world, but hang it up if you race a dirt bike. What bullshit.

And to answer y'all, no I don't smoke rope anymore. But I would if I wanted
to. Too damn many privacy laws in my opinion.

Vet Racer

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I think everyone would get a kick out of the Jefro, My Wife, and I
picture at the bottom on this page:
http://www.pipeline.com/~toddsvette/moto-x.htm

It's one year old. And man did I catch shit for my post back then.
Guess what? I AM STILL SORRY TO HEAR ABOUT IT!

See ya,

Todd

davey...@home.com (Dave Dude) wrote:

>On Sat, 28 Aug 1999 06:28:41 GMT, bsmu...@hotmail.com (Serial #
>19781010) wrote:

>>Pulled this off the Motocross web site. Hope it clears it up a bit.
>>
>>http://www.motocross.com/
>>
>>In a shocking development last night, Jeff Emig was officially let go
>>from his contract at Kawasaki USA. According to sources close to
>>Motocross.com, Emig had an altercation with local authorities while on
>>vacation at Lake Havasu, AZ. Apparently, Emig was walking home and was
>>stopped by local authorities. Although Jeff had no drugs or illegal
>>substances, Arizona has a No Tolerance Law.
>snip

>Hey check this out!! Video of Emig at the scene!!!

>http://www.dfilm.com/new_site/userMovies/dwight13513.html

>Dave Dude
>96yz250

Todd Heemsbergen 25+, 30+, 35+ Expert Motocross Racer - 1999 and 1998 KX250's
Thanks D&S Kawasaki, Pro Circuit, Mx South, Boyesen, Twin Air, TSS Graphics, Works Connection, Thor, Super Fast Race Fuels.
The Heemsbergens' Motocross Related Web Site http://www.pipeline.com/~toddsvette


Rowdy

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"Tim (fusion1)" wrote:
<snip>

> The whole situation reminds me a lot of Ron "The Machine" Lechien.
> It's kind of sad, but the guys that have natural talent seldom value
> it.

Well, i think they do, only society doesn't.

Rowdy
WRZ400F

Tim (fusion1)

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Rowdy <peter....@gmx.net> wrote:

Not sure that I follow you, Pete.
They both caused their own problems, right?
The point I meant to make is that you don't see the guys who really
have to work hard at it self-destruct.

Tim


Dave Dude

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On Sun, 29 Aug 1999 04:39:08 GMT, Vet Racer <mxr...@pipeline.com>
wrote:

>I think everyone would get a kick out of the Jefro, My Wife, and I
>picture at the bottom on this page:
>http://www.pipeline.com/~toddsvette/moto-x.htm
>
>It's one year old. And man did I catch shit for my post back then.
>Guess what? I AM STILL SORRY TO HEAR ABOUT IT!
>
>See ya,
>
>Todd
>

Funny video clips aside, yes its not a good thing. Wonder why he had a
pipe in his pocket? Whatever the reason it is serious brain-fade on
Fro's part-stuff like that needs to be avoided like the plauge.
Hopefully we'll see him get on a Yamaha and kick some ass.....

Dave Dude
96yz250

MRRMX

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>Man, this sucks! I hope he can hook up with a private team that isn't
>as image conscious (not that I condone what he did, or disagree with
>what Kawasaki did).
>Jeff's a likable and personable guy. I'd like to see him get
>everything back together quickly.
>
>The whole situation reminds me a lot of Ron "The Machine" Lechien.
>It's kind of sad, but the guys that have natural talent seldom value
>it.
>

Rowdy

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"Tim (fusion1)" wrote:
> Rowdy <peter....@gmx.net> wrote:
> >"Tim (fusion1)" wrote:
> ><snip>
> >> It's kind of sad, but the guys that have natural talent seldom
> >> value it.
> >Well, i think they do, only society doesn't.
>
> Not sure that I follow you, Pete.
> They both caused their own problems, right?

Hmm. I meant to say, that society values Ron's or Jeff's compliance
with the law much higher than their natural talent.

Jeff's talent counts nothing, he is regarded as a bad guy and he
looses it all the moment society finds out about his private habit of
enjoying pot, a substance that once was legal to consume and hopefully
will be sometime in the future. (the pot prohibition seems to last
longer that the one banning alcohol ;)

It's true, that it was Jeff's fault failing to hide his *currently
illegal* habit from the public, "he ought have known better". But
Kawasaki is kicking out a fast rider (does smoking pot make you fast?
i heavily doubt that!) because of his private life style. Do they
cancel contracts that quickly when one of their racers is ticketed for
speeding or cheats the IRS?

Personally, i didn't buy their products because their racers are clean
saints, but because they're fast and reliable. I certainly won't buy
Honda because their riders display a tidier life.

To me, Kawasaki made a sad decision, not Jeff.

> The point I meant to make is that you don't see the guys who really
> have to work hard at it self-destruct.

You are referring to the classic RMD spode that didn't make it to the
podium, but breaks its bones while trying hard? :-)

Rowdy
YellowScotchCast'99

Mike Hobbs

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J Payer <Pay...@webtv.net> wrote in message news:17625-37C8A7BC-87@newsd-

> Where/when will this interview be published or aired?

Don't know. RXI will probably have an update online soon.

Mike Hobbs


Adam

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> He was probably holding it for Seth.

-Adam


>
> Wonder why he had a
> pipe in his pocket?

> Dave Dude
> 96yz250


Bob Rose

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NOW THATS Hilarious! NOT!!!!!

Dave Dude wrote in message <37cb11d2.3105590@news>...

Dave Dude

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On Mon, 30 Aug 1999 02:19:16 -0400, "Bob Rose" <ros...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>NOW THATS Hilarious! NOT!!!!!

I thought it was funny as hell. Did you go to Mototalk and check out
the Emig ripping there? Better NOT, you might soil panties or
something......

Dave Dude
96yz250

MMMarvalus

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>>>Tim
>>All he has to do is say he didnt inhale...
>>It worked for Clinton didnt it?
>>
>
>Right on, Bro. You can be the President of the most powerful nation in the
>free world, but hang it up if you race a dirt bike. What bullshit.

What seems even sadder to me is that in essence Jeff is claiming he can prove
his innocence (willing to be drug tested) but Kawasaki is so desperate to get
rid of him that they deny him the chance. Almost makes me want to turn in my
green bike for something like one of those orange pumpkins.

JR

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Good I'm glad to see this policy It's about time. Even if he was not using
drugs he certainly should have know not to carry Drug paraphernalia.
Surround himself with drug users, because of the friends he kept now he has
to pay the price.
EMIG Should have said "yes I had Drug paraphernalia, I regret my stupid
decision to carry the stuff and am fully prepared to accept the consequences
of my actions. I do not approve of the Illegal use of drugs, and urge my
fans to support me but not my behavior." Drug users should not be emulated.
Personally I would like to see athletes to be role model's not just for
their performance in the game. People use drugs to fill in something that is
missing in there life. the trouble is the drugs fill that void an then
become a larger part until it pushes out the other things that make life
worthwhile.
It is a sad state when our leaders make such lousy role models.
JR XR600


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In article <7q7joj$15po$1...@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com>,
"Harvey" <HONDA...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
>
> >I heard Emig and Seth's corpse were doing blow, but I got that from
my
> >cousin's girfriend's mother's babysitter's dad who pulls parts at
East
> >Weetucket Kawasaki.
> >
>
> Termination was going to happen sooner or later... Damned shame 'bout
what
> he was doing to that poor old beagle though.


I heard it was a goat. Oh well..it is a shame 'cause I liked Emig. Kids
need to take a look at what happens when you associate with the wrong
crowd, doing the wrong things...maybe this incident will change someone
else's ways out there.

Steve


>
> Harvey
> '00 Pimp Daddy Foof Bike driver.
>
>

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JR wrote:
<snip>
> Personally I would like to see athletes to be role model's not just for
> their performance in the game.

What mature citizen needs role models anyhow?

You know what is good for you, i know what is good for me, and if your
teach your children well (i don't doubt that), they'll come up with
their own genuine character and won't resort to copying some famous
person.

Teach them self confidence and you don't need to worry about them
blindly following their idols.

> People use drugs to fill in something that is
> missing in there life.

True. Most everyone is addicted to some drug nowadays.
Be it alcohol, nicotine, pot or sugar(yeah, that's mine). Try to
imagine a spode fest without beer let alone that famous Gomer
Brew(tm). Attendants surely will feel something missing in that Fest.

> the trouble is the drugs fill that void an then
> become a larger part until it pushes out the other things that make life
> worthwhile.

True again.
How many people do you know that only start to live and are ready to
'work' after consuming their daily dosage of beer or wine? Recently at
lunchtime(!), i was shocked to find an 'ethanolically challenged'
person in very well paying job.

> It is a sad state when our leaders make such lousy role models.

It's even more sad, when we value their role model qualities higher
than their work.

YMMV
Rowdy

--
freedom is never for free

JR

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Rowdy <peter....@gmx.net> wrote in message
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> <snip>

> It's even more sad, when we value their role model qualities higher
> than their work.

I admire peoples work it's a shame to see truly talented people wasting
their bodies/minds in the off hours. Your kidding yourself if you think that
weekend drug/alcohol doesn't effect your weekday performance. This effect
not just yourself but everyone around you. It's just one of those things
society is burdened with. I just get mad when other people's poor judgment
intrudes into my life. My Kids judgment is fine but it would be a lot easier
if I didn't have to worry about some scum slipping a Ruffie(clear odorless
tasteless date rape drug) in her drink.

"47% of serious workplace accidents and 40% of workplace accidents resulting
in fatalities have drug and/or alcohol involvement" (Occupational Medicine.

38 to 50% of all workers' compensation claims are related to the use of
alcohol or drugs in the workplace. (National Council on Compensation
Insurance).

More than 90% of alcoholics and 74% of drug addicts (up 7% since 1992) are
employed.[(National Institute on Drug Abuse, Department of Health & Human
Services (DHHS)]

15% to 17% of employees in the average U.S. company effect their workplace
though substance use. (Bureau if Labor Statistics)

On average, employees with inappropriate substance use cost their employers
$7,000 annually (Small Business Administration)

Medical Claims: Substance users and those with family members who use
inappropriate users file medical claims that average 300-400% higher than
non-users' claims. (Ohio Bureau of Workers' Compensation.)

JR XR 600
Trying my best to raise my family the best I can
Exxon Valdez cost 16 Billion. Opps

Rowdy

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JR wrote:
<snip>

> intrudes into my life. My Kids judgment is fine but it would be a lot
> easier if I didn't have to worry about some scum slipping a
> Ruffie(clear odorless tasteless date rape drug) in her drink.

Whasset? Sounds really hideous!

<snip>


> On average, employees with inappropriate substance use cost their
> employers $7,000 annually (Small Business Administration)
>
> Medical Claims: Substance users and those with family members who use
> inappropriate users file medical claims that average 300-400% higher
> than non-users' claims. (Ohio Bureau of Workers' Compensation.)

JR, finally i see your point.

But, you know, i really truly enjoy paying for these other peoples'
type of freedom, even if it really looks silly to me, is expensive for
society and unnecessarily dangerous to their health, it's just their
thing.

How else could i demand from them to accept (and pay for) my silly
habit of exposing and hurting me and wasting gasoline when riding a
motorcycle?

Freedom is always the freedom of the other's opinion.


Rowdy
WRZ400F,92

PS: Of course, that ruffie thing is not part of anyone's freedom
Over here that would be treated like poisoning someone and constitutes
a federal offense!

JR

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<Snip every thing>
USA 5% world population consumes approx 60% illegal drugs (BWC)
truely we are missing something. with freedom comes risks.
Went to a Drug seminar about a year ago,
and quite frankly scared the living *$#@! out of me.
Never saw the point of taking drugs
and asumed what others did was their business,
but the insidious nature of drugs can impair your judgment
until you cross the line, The're are all kinds of things out there
Ruffie or one like it struck close to home last year never made the paper
because the girl wanted privacy. This girl last summer was found on her
front lawn naked at 5:30 am, she was taken to the hospital (She had been
raped by over 15 different men) her memory was blank from 10:00pm the night
before when she left the bolwing alley to walk home.
If the jerk is ever caught and I'm sure someone will fess up, there is bound
to be a linching. This cute blond cheerleader 15 year old is questioning
life, scary
I have to move on to something else now this drug stuff is too
depressing
how about a debate on running aviation fuel in a quad early 70's Harley with
a pink powerband and nogely wires that our corner's the dreamcycle.....
maybe we should look thought our garage for spare parts and make a
collective dirt bike for Pony or some other bikeless person I've got a spare
exhaust for a 70's Honda Trail CT-70
JR XR 600


Pony

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Hey, sounds good to me!!! :-)

janet

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I've got a spare
> exhaust for a 70's Honda Trail CT-70
> JR XR 600

hey JR.....any idea where I can find a carburetor for an old CT-70?
janet

NATMAR1

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>????? where did u hear that from???

I heard it from my brother. His son was at the track practicing that night.

SSmyers102

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>>I always thought Emig was too focused on his image and not enough on the
>>riding.
>>I knew his career was over when he got involved with Shift.
>>
>
>
>Yeah, the 250 SX Championship and the 250 MX Championship that he won while
>wearing Shift really hurt his career.
>>
>

No hanging around with Potheads and being fired from one of the big four
factory teams did.

Emig will now have to try his luck on a private team. And try to find sponsors
that want to be associated with him- Maybe Hostess twinkies ?

How about Slim Jims ?

Just because he can ride doesn't put him above the law. I for one hope our
sport would be diferent than football and baseball where the players negotiate
contracts from jail.

Shift probably likes the publicity...maybe they will sell more camo lighters.

JR

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Yes:
Cycles-R-US
Medina OH. 330 722-0276
if not there I may be able to wrestle one up
JR XR 600

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bullwinkle

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JR wrote in message <7qeqse$90h$1...@plonk.apk.net>...
<snip>

>maybe we should look thought our garage for spare parts and make a
>collective dirt bike for Pony or some other bikeless person I've got a

spare
>exhaust for a 70's Honda Trail CT-70
>JR XR 600
>
>


I have a complete SP125 '86 with the engine in a box. All it needs is a
mechanic who knows how to put it back together and some spare parts.

Ivan Liechty
'93 WR250
ilie...@bellsouth.netBULLWINKLE
drop BULLWINKLE to e-mail
http://personal.lig.bellsouth.net/~iliechty

JR

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Now we're getting somewhere:
Let's list them, you know the spare from the bikes you already sold traded
or crashed. sorry just built new house a during the move donated the
collection
(have bike salvage yard down the street)
JR XR


CT 70 exhaust Medina OH JR XR600
complete SP125 '86 with the engine in a box Bullwinkle(Ivan Liechty)


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Paul

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> JR, finally i see your point.
>
> But, you know, i really truly enjoy paying for these other peoples'
> type of freedom, even if it really looks silly to me, is expensive for
> society and unnecessarily dangerous to their health, it's just their
> thing.

Personally I do not enjoy paying for these peoples' freedom. Why do they
force it on me, where is the freedom in that?

> How else could i demand from them to accept (and pay for) my silly
> habit of exposing and hurting me and wasting gasoline when riding a
> motorcycle?


As long as you are riding legally, how can you compare the two? I doubt
if our riding motorcycles costs our bosses $7,000 annually and raises
Workers' Compensation rates.


>
> Freedom is always the freedom of the other's opinion.


Freedom of opinion yes, freedom to break the law, NO. If you don't like
the laws you have the freedom to try to change them.

Nuff Said ; )

Cheers,
Paul


J Payer

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People! People! People! Calm down!

Everyone that is accusing Jeffro of this or that need to relax, NOBODY
knows exactly what happened yet. Nobody said Fro was high, nobody said
Fro was drunk, and I'm not 100% sure the story of the pipe is legit yet.
So before a lynch mob gets rounded up, why doesn't everyone relax and
find out the FACTS before going off on Jeff?

J&K

Special thanks to the following:
Jim Cook at www.Smackovermotorsports.com Jeff at www.mxsouth.com and
John Duffy at www.appliedrace.com


Gary Solomons

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,If you read the new press release at http://www.cyclenews.com Emig has a
written statement that sheds a little more light on what happend.
--
Gary Solomons
1995 KTM 400 EXC
1985 Suzuki LT50
DoD #2023.

JR

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Nice to see the growth from one of life's experiences
Looks like the wake up call worked now comes the hard part
regaining the trust from loved ones....
Thanks for the link Gary
I had to add motocross password to get article
but worth it.
JR XR 600

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Uwe Hale

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J Payer <Pay...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:20611-37...@newsd-121.bryant.webtv.net...

> People! People! People! Calm down!
>
> Everyone that is accusing Jeffro of this or that need to relax, NOBODY

> knows exactly what happened yet. Nobody said Fro was high, nobody said
> Fro was drunk, and I'm not 100% sure the story of the pipe is legit yet.
> So before a lynch mob gets rounded up, why doesn't everyone relax and
> find out the FACTS before going off on Jeff?
>

If nothing happened, why did Kawasaki fire him?

There are enough reliable sources that have mentioned he had had a beer can
with holes poked in it that I believe it.

Not much reason to get fired but I'm guessing Kawasaki was looking for a way
out. It's not surprising with the party image he promoted. Live by the
sword, die by the sword.

Pro's should win races and sell bikes. Leave the partying to us amatuers.


Uwe Hale - 89 YZ250WR, 99 GasGas EC200


Steven Unruh

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Uwe Hale <ha...@texas.net> wrote:

: Pro's should win races and sell bikes. Leave the partying to us amatuers.

Uwe,
some of the places i've been had partiers that were pro's. ;)

steve unruh - v29 tchss
98yz250

Rowdy

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Paul wrote:
<snip>

> Personally I do not enjoy paying for these peoples' freedom. Why do they
> force it on me, where is the freedom in that?

My idea behind that is:
We all should pay for each others fun regardless of the value the
others fun has to us. Generally regarded as an Utopia, i know. :-)

> > How else could i demand from them to accept (and pay for) my silly
> > habit of exposing and hurting me and wasting gasoline when riding a
> > motorcycle?
>
> As long as you are riding legally, how can you compare the two? I doubt
> if our riding motorcycles costs our bosses $7,000 annually and raises
> Workers' Compensation rates.

Of course, OUR riding doesn't cost anybody a cent. But the same holds
true for most of the beer lovers, pot smokers, bungee jumpers, free
climbers or firearms lovers.



> Freedom of opinion yes, freedom to break the law, NO. If you don't like
> the laws you have the freedom to try to change them.

A rather expensive way. It can cost you the better half of your life
on this planet without achieving your goals.

I prefer explicitly tolerating violations of laws i don't like. Mind
you, i don't promote violations, i just tolerate them and say so.

As soon as enough people do so, it becomes 'dead law'(sp?). The cops
find other violations to be more important, and finally the law gets
changed or even canceled officially.

That takes time but it works:
Thanks to that process, motorcycles finally may legally pass car
queues and line up in front of the traffic light (traffic jam,
whasset?)
Or, to stay in the US, think about how prohibition ended. Laws lacking
public support will vanish sooner or later.

High time to get rid of that cast and go riding again.
Slowly, i'm mutating into a politician. :-)


Rowdy
YellowScotchCast,99

DaveyzDude

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On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:41:00 -0500 "Uwe Hale" <ha...@texas.net> wrote:
snip

> There are enough reliable sources that have mentioned he had had a beer can
> with holes poked in it that I believe it.

snip

The cycle news article says he had some dope as well. Poor Fro. The
whole deal sucks. I read further and came across an article(unrelated
to fro) where Stefan Everts is saying Americans are cowards and
europeans are the best at motocross. Fro is totally cool compared to a
jerk off like Everts.

Dave Dude
96yz250
--
Posted via Talkway - http://www.talkway.com
Exchange ideas on practically anything (tm).


JBD

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In article <t_Qy3.9802$r92.1...@news2.rdc1.on.home.com>, "Paul" <never_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> How else could i demand from them to accept (and pay for) my silly
>> habit of exposing and hurting me and wasting gasoline when riding a
>> motorcycle?
>
>
>As long as you are riding legally, how can you compare the two? I doubt
>if our riding motorcycles costs our bosses $7,000 annually and raises
>Workers' Compensation rates.

If I get in an accident while riding my dirtbike and miss a month of work I
believe it does cost my employer. First they will pay me thru the use of my
sick time even though I'm not there & then they will pay someone else to do my
job as well. So I would bet (just judging by rmd injuries alone) that
nationaly it's WAY OVER $7,000 a year that we as a group cost our employers.
Of course this is all just speculation and as always YMMV.

Jeff
(old hippie who's unpopular opinions regarding this thread will be kept to
himself or private email)


>Cheers,
>Paul
>
>
>

DaveyzDude

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On 31 Aug 1999 02:56:47 GMT ssmye...@aol.com (SSmyers102) wrote:
snip

> Emig will now have to try his luck on a private team. And try to find sponsors
> that want to be associated with him- Maybe Hostess twinkies ?
>
> How about Slim Jims ?
snip

How bout "Team Zig-Zag" ? Oh man I'm very sorry I couldn't help it.<G>

Dave dude

SCW

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DaveyzDude <dch...@nospam.tqtx.com> wrote:

> How bout "Team Zig-Zag" ? Oh man I'm very sorry I couldn't help it.<G>

I can hear the ZigZag privateer motto: "At Team ZigZag, We're Rolling Our
Own"

Dave Mcanty

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I was born and raised in Salem, MA, home of the witches,


--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------
Dave
'94 YZ 250
'90 Honda CR 125
'80 49cc Motobecane Moped(cruises at 31MPH)

Uwe Hale

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J Payer <Pay...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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>
> Getting "busted" for a "beer can with holes poked in it"? That sounds a
> little thin to me. Does that mean if I shotgun a beer, by poking a hole
> in the can, I can be arrested in AZ?
>

I'm not sure about AZ laws, but yes, you may be arrested for simply having
an open container in public. Depends on local laws.

David Jones

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On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 18:31:39 GMT, "DaveyzDude"
<dch...@nospam.tqtx.com> wrote:

>On 31 Aug 1999 02:56:47 GMT ssmye...@aol.com (SSmyers102) wrote:
>snip
>> Emig will now have to try his luck on a private team. And try to find sponsors
>> that want to be associated with him- Maybe Hostess twinkies ?
>>
>> How about Slim Jims ?
>snip
>

>How bout "Team Zig-Zag" ? Oh man I'm very sorry I couldn't help it.<G>

Fot those who may be old enough to remember EZ Wider rolling papers,
they sponsored a hang gliding team way back in the mid 70s and I have
the t-shirt to prove it. See www.cyberhighway.net/~djones/ezwider.htm
for a scan of the shirt.

On the back it says "e-z wider flying team". If I remember correctly
Zig Zag also sponsored some "flyers"......

I still wear the shirt occassionally to parties, among the proper
crowd of course.

>
>Dave dude


David - 99 KTM 200EXC
Email: djo...@cyberhighway.net
Home of the "The Very Unofficial RMD Page"
http://www.cyberhighway.net/~djones/

Kenneth Murphy

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DaveyzDude (dch...@nospam.tqtx.com) wrote:

: On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:41:00 -0500 "Uwe Hale" <ha...@texas.net> wrote:
: snip

: > There are enough reliable sources that have mentioned he had had a beer can
: > with holes poked in it that I believe it.
: snip

: The cycle news article says he had some dope as well. Poor Fro. The
: whole deal sucks. I read further and came across an article(unrelated

OK, I give up... WTF *is* the article? I think I've looked at every link
except the correct one....

: Dave Dude

O aka Ken Murphy (kmur...@ford.com) Owner/Operator: 98YZ250
<M>erfman Thanks to: Jen, Erin, DNA Racing, MS Racing, FMF, Race Tech
_/ \_ Boyesen/Twin Air, Works Connection <Your name here>
Disclaimer: I speak only for myself

JR

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SCW <klx...@gte.net> wrote in message
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> DaveyzDude <dch...@nospam.tqtx.com> wrote:
>
> > How bout "Team Zig-Zag" ? Oh man I'm very sorry I couldn't help it.<G>
>
> I can hear the ZigZag privateer motto: "At Team ZigZag, We're Rolling Our
> Own"
>

We're ready to roll & we're going to smoke your butt..
JR XR 600
a little light humor

JR

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Dave had a 80 Puch 2sp 2hp that did 35 on flat smaller rear sprocket off
mini bike expansion chamber & ported with a diegrinder myself amazed that it
ran better after I was done but moved to country & my street is 50mph and
hilly
what mods did you do to your Motobecane
JR XR600
never content with stock

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Gary Solomons

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> OK, I give up... WTF *is* the article? I think I've looked at every link
> except the correct one....


Here is the article dave.

Emig arrested, fired

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----

Former AMA Supercross, 125cc MX, and 250cc MX National Champion Jeff Emig
(right) was arrested for public consumption of alcohol, possession of
marijuana, and possession of drug paraphernalia in Lake Havasu City,
Arizona, on August 22, Emig was subsequently fired by Team Kawasaki.

According to the police report, Emig was approached by police for walking
down the street with a beer, and then patted down when a bulge was noticed
in one of his pockets. The bulge was created by a beer can that had holes
punched in it and what was believed to be marijuana residue. A more
extensive search revealed Emig to be holding marijuana. Emig was booked,
and, after a September 24 court date was set, released on bail the same day.

On August 27, Kawasaki Motors Corp. USA issued the following brief press
release: "A recent incident involving Kawasaki motocross racer Jeff Emig has
prompted the company to immediately terminate the contract between the two
parties. The company regrets its relationship with Jeff must end on this
note."

Kawasaki motocross team manager Bruce Stjernstrom preferred not to provide
any additional any information when contacted by telephone, and Kawasaki
public relations manager Mel Moore would only say the following: "What
happened was very unfortunate. We like and respect Jeff a lot, and are
impressed with his performance for Kawasaki."

Emig, who was just completing the first year of a new two-year contract with
Kawasaki, was not in attendance at the August 29 AMA National in Binghamton,
New York. When contacted by telephone on Thursday, August 26, Emig preferred
not to speak on the record, but he later issued the following statement,
titled "An open apology from Jeff Emig," on August 30.

"I want to apologize to Kawasaki, to my other sponsors who have supported my
racing efforts, to my family, my sport, my friends, and most importantly, to
my fans. I made a huge mistake for which I take full responsibility. The
consequences of my actions have cost me more than I could ever explain here.
My career and my life are one and the same; I have put them both in
jeopardy.

"This was not part of being a professional athlete. I am expected to perform
well on the race track and set a good example everywhere else. In this case,
I failed myself, my team, my fans and my sport. I knowingly put myself in a
situation that put to risk everything I have worked my entire life to
create. I now must pay the price of my actions, which the racing community
will exact.

"The most public of the problems I have created for myself is the
termination of my contract with Kawasaki. When I received the official news
that I was fired, it was the worst feeling that I have ever had. The hardest
thing I have ever done came next, the phone call to tell my dad what I did.
Boy, have I learned a lesson!

"Beginning right now, I will redeem myself and rebuild my life. I have
allowed too many distractions into my life. I have begun taking the steps to
restructure my life and to focus my mind, my time and my energy on being a
professional motorcycle racer of whom my fans can be proud.

"I want to thank Kawasaki for giving me the opportunity, the equipment and
the support to be a champion. I would like to thank all the individuals
within that organization for the years of excellent effort and dedication
during which we accomplished so much.

"The initial response I have received from my friends and just about
everyone in the industry has been very supportive. I am extremely grateful
for them. Now it is time for me to make a positive out of this situation. I
will start by forgiving myself, (and will) put my life in order and my
career back on the right track. I hope to earn the forgiveness of all the
people I let down by making the best part of my life be the part that is yet
to come. See you at the races!"

As of August 30, the AMA had taken no official position on the matter other
than to say, through director of professional competition Merrill
Vanderslice, "We are concerned with anything that directly or indirectly
represents the sport of motorcycling." When asked whether the AMA could or
would suspend or fine Emig (should he attempt to race as a privateer or for
a different team), Vanderslice said that the AMA has "quite a bit of
flexibility along those lines."

According to AMA communications manager Bill Nordquist, in all disciplines
of professional racing, the AMA randomly tests from three to five riders for
drugs once every three to eight rounds.

Jeff Ganson

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djo...@cyberhighway.nospam.net (David Jones) wrote in
<37ce06fc...@news.cyberhighway.net>:

>I think there are at least a couple of issues up for grabs here.
>Personally, I don't think an employer has any business trying to
>dictate what an employee does in his or her spare time. However, when
>that employee is a "public figure", things change. In effect they are
>always "on call" . Part of what that business is paying for is "image"
>and if the person can't project the corporation's idea of a "good
>image" then they have every right to release them.

Not only that, but Emig is paid to perform. Since his last championship,
almost two years now, his performance has been pretty poor (at least
compared to his past performance and, therefore, expectations). Drug use
could certainly be a factor in that. Moreover, the AMA can (probably)
suspend or even ban him for drug use -- remember Gobert? The team
shouldn't have to continue to employ someone who may not be able to race
because he's suspended or banned.

>>Not much reason to get fired but I'm guessing Kawasaki was looking for
>>a way out.

I have no doubt that played a role.

--
Jeff Ganson
http://ganson.net

Jeff Ganson

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ha...@texas.net (Uwe Hale) wrote in <7qh7m2$60...@george.sabre.com>:

He was stopped for that, apparently. More significant is possession of
drug paraphernalia. If Arizona law is anything like Washington (where I'm
a part-time prosecutor), you most certainly CAN be arrested or prosecuted
for "using" drug paraphernalia (which is basically anything relating to
drug use, sales, etc.). What that means is a little vague, but this is my
understanding, again applying Washington law:

If Fro just had a can with holes in it, but no burns and no pot, it would
be legal here. You can POSSESS drug paraphernalia (thus, head shops are
legal), but you can't USE it to ingest illegal drugs. The burns, residue
and baggie of pot are pretty good evidence that somebody (probably Fro
because it was in his pocket) USED the can to smoke dope. Unfortunately
for Fro, who I like and am rooting for, it sounds like a pretty good
case.

Jeff Ganson

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dch...@nospam.tqtx.com (DaveyzDude) wrote in
<x9Uy3.461$LL2....@c01read02-admin.service.talkway.com>:

>I read further and came across an article(unrelated to fro) where


>Stefan Everts is saying Americans are cowards and europeans are the
>best at motocross. Fro is totally cool compared to a jerk off like
>Everts.

I agree. Everything I've read about Everts makes him look like a punk and
a cherry-picker. And it's funny to hear him call Americans cowards, given
his penchant for bailing out of any competition that he thinks he can't
win -- his reason, if I remember correctly, for not wanting to try US
Supercross. It will be interesting to see if he comes up with some last-
minute "injury" before the USGP.

Kenneth Murphy

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Uwe Hale (ha...@texas.net) wrote:

: I'm not sure about AZ laws, but yes, you may be arrested for simply having


: an open container in public. Depends on local laws.

The article on CN sez he was holdin'...

: Uwe Hale - 89 YZ250WR, 99 GasGas EC200


--

Pony

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ROFLMAO!!!

Mike Hetrick

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In article <20611-37...@newsd-121.bryant.webtv.net>, Pay...@webtv.net (J Payer) wrote:
>People! People! People! Calm down!
>
>Everyone that is accusing Jeffro of this or that need to relax, NOBODY
>knows exactly what happened yet. Nobody said Fro was high, nobody said
>Fro was drunk, and I'm not 100% sure the story of the pipe is legit yet.
>So before a lynch mob gets rounded up, why doesn't everyone relax and
>find out the FACTS before going off on Jeff?

Yeah, but he had a pot pipe on his person and following JR's logic that means
he drugged and raped 15 year old cheerleaders and cost all of us $7000 a year.

Jap Bikes Rule

Mike Hetrick
2000 Kawasaki KX-250
ICQ 15554859

SCW

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Jeff Ganson <je...@ganson.net> wrote

> Not only that, but Emig is paid to perform. Since his last championship,
> almost two years now, his performance has been pretty poor (at least
> compared to his past performance and, therefore, expectations).

it's not a championship season for sure, but he was #7 in the nat'l
standings as of a couple of weeks ago. that's way ahead of a lot of riders.
kawasaki can obviously do what they want based on the drug situation but who
else are they going to rely on? they axed ryno last year and rc was lucky
to finish a race, much less make the podium in 99 sx season

personally, i like emig. but, i have no sympathy for he or any of them who
get busted if such conduct was mentioned in their contract. he knew the
consequences when he stuck the can in his pocket. even if it wasn't his
stuff, he gambled and he lost...bigtime. guilt by association is a fact
these days. it sucks but we're all aware of it.

i hope fro pops up on a team no one expects him to and beats his kawasaki
replacement(s) repeatedly. it's time for ktm to make it onto an sx podium.
that'd be cool. of course, i'm so whacked on vicatin i'm delerious.

--
"SpodeKill"
Scott (lefty) Wilson

KLX-365
RM-125 (Cameron)
KX-100 (Corey)

www.dirtrider.net/zerogravity

"These go to eleven."
-Nigel Tufnel

Mike Hetrick

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In article <h5Yy3.537$%m1.2...@dfiatx1-snr1.gtei.net>, "SCW" <klx...@gte.net> wrote:

>pardon my ignorance, but how does one smoke dope out of a can? this is from
>a guy who never even smoked a joint so i'm pretty clueless.
>

Ya dent the side in, poke some small holes in it and put the substance of your
choice there. Ya then suck on the hole that is originally used to pour the
liquid out and spark a match to your favorite substance. Viola- time to rape
cheerleaders.

SCW

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>The burns, residue
> and baggie of pot are pretty good evidence that somebody (probably Fro
> because it was in his pocket) USED the can to smoke dope.

pardon my ignorance, but how does one smoke dope out of a can? this is from


a guy who never even smoked a joint so i'm pretty clueless.

--
"SpodeKill"
Scott (pure-blood) Wilson

KLX-365 wrist-breaker
RM-125 (Cameron)
KX-100 (Corey)

www.dirtrider.net/zerogravity

"These go to eleven."
-Nigel Tufnel

Jeff Ganson <je...@ganson.net> wrote in message
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> ha...@texas.net (Uwe Hale) wrote in <7qh7m2$60...@george.sabre.com>:
>
> >J Payer <Pay...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> >news:27593-37...@newsd-122.bryant.webtv.net...
> >>
> >> Getting "busted" for a "beer can with holes poked in it"? That
> >> sounds a little thin to me. Does that mean if I shotgun a beer, by
> >> poking a hole in the can, I can be arrested in AZ?
> >

> >I'm not sure about AZ laws, but yes, you may be arrested for simply
> >having an open container in public. Depends on local laws.
>

> He was stopped for that, apparently. More significant is possession of
> drug paraphernalia. If Arizona law is anything like Washington (where I'm
> a part-time prosecutor), you most certainly CAN be arrested or prosecuted
> for "using" drug paraphernalia (which is basically anything relating to
> drug use, sales, etc.). What that means is a little vague, but this is my
> understanding, again applying Washington law:
>
> If Fro just had a can with holes in it, but no burns and no pot, it would
> be legal here. You can POSSESS drug paraphernalia (thus, head shops are
> legal), but you can't USE it to ingest illegal drugs. The burns, residue
> and baggie of pot are pretty good evidence that somebody (probably Fro
> because it was in his pocket) USED the can to smoke dope. Unfortunately
> for Fro, who I like and am rooting for, it sounds like a pretty good
> case.
>

Uwe Hale

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Jeff Ganson <je...@ganson.net> wrote in message
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> ha...@texas.net (Uwe Hale) wrote in <7qh7m2$60...@george.sabre.com>:
>
> If Fro just had a can with holes in it, but no burns and no pot, it would
> be legal here. You can POSSESS drug paraphernalia (thus, head shops are
> legal), but you can't USE it to ingest illegal drugs. The burns, residue
> and baggie of pot are pretty good evidence that somebody (probably Fro
> because it was in his pocket) USED the can to smoke dope. Unfortunately
> for Fro, who I like and am rooting for, it sounds like a pretty good
> case.
>

Makes sense. But if this is what happened, it seems really, really stupid
on his part. The whole purpose of the holy dented can or aluminum foil
pipes is so that you can stomp them and get rid of them. Why carry it with
you?

In a way this is really sad. In another way, does this mean that MX has
taken a step towards other professional sports in regards to the scrutiny of
the off-track lives of it's athletes?

Being around Dallas we've kinda become used to it. Jerry Jones was just
arrested the other day for fleeing cops. I wonder if he's gonna fine
himself $70K like he did Switzer?


Uwe

Uwe Hale

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Jeff Ganson <je...@ganson.net> wrote in message
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> Supercross. It will be interesting to see if he comes up with some last-
> minute "injury" before the USGP.
>

No need. The Europeans have already asked several US teams not to compete
so that they won't interfere with the points race. Not sure which US
factory teams will participate. I think Honda is out.


Uwe Hale - 89 YZ250WR, 99 GasGas EC200

http://www.rrdr.org
http://www.smackovermotorsports.com


Dave Mcanty

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>
>Dave had a 80 Puch 2sp 2hp that did 35 on flat smaller rear sprocket off
>mini bike expansion chamber & ported with a diegrinder myself amazed that it
>ran better after I was done but moved to country & my street is 50mph and
>hilly
>what mods did you do to your Motobecane
>JR XR600
> never content with stock

i have a new top end on it, i cleaned out the carb, exhaust, and i have just
taken care of it, well,,,, only when my dirtbike works, i treat it like a
dirtbike when im not on my real bike.if you clean out the carb., it really
makes a big difference. 5mph for me. a friend of mine had a moped that did
40mph, out of the box, it was a kinetic. it was one of those from the wholesale
clubs(bjs, sams, costco). my moped is 2 stroke.

Jeff Ganson

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ha...@texas.net (Uwe Hale) wrote in <7qhhvo$dd...@george.sabre.com>:

>
>Jeff Ganson <je...@ganson.net> wrote in message
>news:8E3387599jgan...@news.nwlink.com...
>> dch...@nospam.tqtx.com (DaveyzDude) wrote in
>> <x9Uy3.461$LL2....@c01read02-admin.service.talkway.com>:
>>
>> Supercross. It will be interesting to see if he comes up with some
>> last- minute "injury" before the USGP.
>>
>
>No need. The Europeans have already asked several US teams not to
>compete so that they won't interfere with the points race. Not sure
>which US factory teams will participate. I think Honda is out.

They had a list in last week's Cycle News. From memory...

Suzuki: Albee and Reynard will compete. Ward too, I think.

Honda: Tortelli will compete; Windham, Lusk and Larocco won't.

Kawasaki: No one.

Yamaha: Button and Henry are out (some problem with the Thumpers); I
don't think Dowd is riding either.

The CN article said there was an 8-rider limit per country (I think), so
not all of the top guys could ride anyway. Still, it's real disappointing
that Henry and a few others won't be riding.

SSmyers102

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WOW- I read Emigs statement in Cycle news and it says everything i hoped it
would.

None of this- "gee it was only pot" whining. He takes responsibility,
acknowledges what he did was wrong, and most importantly admits that the party
liefsyle was taking more importance than his racing career and as a
professional that was wrong..


"This was not part of being a professional athlete. I am expected to perform
well on the race track and set a good example everywhere else. In this case, I
failed myself, my team, my fans and my sport. I knowingly put myself in a
situation that put to risk everything I have worked my entire life to create. I
now must pay the price of my actions, which the racing community will exact."

Jeff Emig (courtesy Cycle news magazine)


He'll be back on track. I don't care if he wins another race as long as he gets
his act back together.

Maybe we can turn the tide against the freeride/party crowd yet. Looks like we
got Jeff back. Hoefully they will go back to their skateboards and leave us
alone.

Go Jeff !

Marty Wicks

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On 31 Aug 1999 16:59:17 -0700, je...@ganson.net (Jeff Ganson) wrote:


>Yamaha: Button and Henry are out (some problem with the Thumpers); I
>don't think Dowd is riding either.

Yep.. the 400's can only be ridden in the 500cc MX. GP's don't have
the same rule as the AMA that allows the thumpers to compete.

Cheers,

Marty
'98 KTM 250EGS

Dave Dude

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On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:49:01 GMT, "SCW" <klx...@gte.net> wrote:


>pardon my ignorance, but how does one smoke dope out of a can? this is from
>a guy who never even smoked a joint so i'm pretty clueless.

Yeah also from a guy who's doped up on narcotics :-)

Dave Dude
96yz250

Mikey

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Shit, I am glad someone can see <some> humor in this without turning it
into a crusade of some sort. I didn't know this was
alt.religon.talk.make.everyone.feel.like.shit.for.who.they.are
Guess we were born in different times.....

>
>On 31 Aug 1999 02:56:47 GMT ssmye...@aol.com (SSmyers102) wrote:
>snip
>> Emig will now have to try his luck on a private team. And try to find sponsors
>> that want to be associated with him- Maybe Hostess twinkies ?
>>
>> How about Slim Jims ?
>snip
>

>How bout "Team Zig-Zag" ? Oh man I'm very sorry I couldn't help it.<G>
>

>Dave dude
>96yz250


Sadfer

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Anyone wanna try their hand at predicting who will stand on the poduim
at the USGP ?

Albie has been so hot lately I know he will be psyched and come out
swinging. I think all he really did was quiit crashing, he was always
a fast / aggersive rider but he crashed so much he seldom got a decent
finish.
Reynard is always fast too, he's got the speed & talent to win alot more
than he does. Too many things seem to happen to him that he isn't able
to come back from.
Vohland may make something happen when back in the company of the Euro's
if he's healthy.
I'd like to see Rino kick some butt, get some attention and come home to
ride next season.
There's probably a couple of others I missed.

I'm a little biased with 'our' boys. I don't see the Euro's ride enough
to really have an opinon. Am I the only one who would watch if ESPN2
put the FIM series on ?

Jeff Ganson wrote:

> They had a list in last week's Cycle News. From memory...
>
> Suzuki: Albee and Reynard will compete. Ward too, I think.
>
> Honda: Tortelli will compete; Windham, Lusk and Larocco won't.
>
> Kawasaki: No one.
>

> Yamaha: Button and Henry are out (some problem with the Thumpers); I
> don't think Dowd is riding either.
>

DaveyzDude

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On Wed, 01 Sep 1999 09:50:42 -0400 Sadfer <sad...@local.net> wrote:
> Anyone wanna try their hand at predicting who will stand on the poduim
> at the USGP ?

If I was racing the event I'm sure I'd kick all their ass's----NOT!!<G>
I can't even begin to guess who the top three spots would go to.

snip

> Am I the only one who would watch if ESPN2
> put the FIM series on ?

Nope. I'd watch everything dirtbike that got aired on TV.

Dave Dude
96yz250
--
Posted via Talkway - http://www.talkway.com
Exchange ideas on practically anything (tm).


Pekka Hänninen

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Sadfer wrote in message <37CD2F32...@local.net>...

>Anyone wanna try their hand at predicting who will stand on the poduim
>at the USGP ?
>

1. Everts
2. Bolley
3. Beirer

>
>I'm a little biased with 'our' boys. I don't see the Euro's ride enough

>to really have an opinon. Am I the only one who would watch if ESPN2


>put the FIM series on ?
>

Eurosport will show the USGP live!!

--
Pekka Hänninen, OH7XC
97 KTM125EXC, 95 RM125


Jay C

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JR <J...@northeast.ohio> wrote in message news:7qhbq4$jpk$1...@plonk.apk.net...

> > I can hear the ZigZag privateer motto: "At Team ZigZag, We're Rolling
Our
> > Own"
> >
>
> We're ready to roll & we're going to smoke your butt..

Excellent - I like that!

Jay

Stephen Bobic

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Jeff Ganson wrote:

> Not only that, but Emig is paid to perform. Since his last championship,
> almost two years now, his performance has been pretty poor (at least

> compared to his past performance and, therefore, expectations). Drug use
> could certainly be a factor in that. Moreover, the AMA can (probably)
> suspend or even ban him for drug use -- remember Gobert? The team
> shouldn't have to continue to employ someone who may not be able to race
> because he's suspended or banned.

The AMA can only suspend or fine him if he fails one of their drug tests.
Gobert was suspended for failing an AMA and an FIM drug test, not for
partying with the people.

It's time to stop theorizing and let the facts unfold.

Steve

DirtCrashr

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>Here is the article dave.

<snip Emig response>

Alltogether a better and more mature, reasoned, and intelligent response than
Gobert could ever imagine giving...

If Gobbit can pick up a ride after getting kicked off one squad than Jeff
should also.

Dirtcrashr - '97xr400

Wesley Grass

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In article <7qgklh$nef$1...@plonk.apk.net>, "JR" <J...@northeast.ohio> writes:
|> Now we're getting somewhere:
|> Let's list them, you know the spare from the bikes you already sold traded
|> or crashed.
|>
|> JR XR
|>
|> CT 70 exhaust Medina OH JR XR600
|> complete SP125 '86 with the engine in a box Bullwinkle(Ivan Liechty)

Various Honda levers, wheel bearings and spacers. Full set of suspension
rebuild parts for an '88 CR500. A brand new muffler for a mid '80's IT465 (?)
that I bought to adapt to a CR500 for stealth riding. Suspension bearings for
a GSXR750. A stock cam, valves, and rockers for an XR200, maybe even a timing
chain, all used but good.

I got time to rebuild an SP motor too.

Wes


Wesley Grass

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In article <7qh7m2$60...@george.sabre.com>, "Uwe Hale" <ha...@texas.net> writes:
|>
|> J Payer <Pay...@webtv.net> wrote in message
|> news:27593-37...@newsd-122.bryant.webtv.net...
|> >
|> > Getting "busted" for a "beer can with holes poked in it"? That sounds a
|> > little thin to me. Does that mean if I shotgun a beer, by poking a hole
|> > in the can, I can be arrested in AZ?
|> >
|>
|> I'm not sure about AZ laws, but yes, you may be arrested for simply having
|> an open container in public. Depends on local laws.
|>
|> Uwe Hale - 89 YZ250WR, 99 GasGas EC200

--
Which is why I gotta remember to get a few new corks and shrink wrappers from
my friend the wine maker ;-)

Wes

Jim Hall

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wes...@otis.arraycomm.com (Wesley Grass) wrote:

>. A brand new muffler for a mid '80's IT465 (?)
>that I bought to adapt to a CR500 for stealth riding. Suspension bearings for
>a GSXR750. A stock cam, valves, and rockers for an XR200, maybe even a timing
>chain, all used but good.
>
>I got time to rebuild an SP motor too.

If you have the muffler and the time, I've pretty much got the rest of
a complete IT465 in a basket..

The motor would need a rebuild...

Jim Hall
380 EXC and others
turning Money into Noise...

Thank you Big Joe's Cycle; Plateau Engineering

David Jones

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On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:54:32 -0400, "JR" <J...@northeast.ohio> wrote:

>
>SCW <klx...@gte.net> wrote in message
>news:dxVy3.435$%m1.1...@dfiatx1-snr1.gtei.net...
>> DaveyzDude <dch...@nospam.tqtx.com> wrote:
>>

>> > How bout "Team Zig-Zag" ? Oh man I'm very sorry I couldn't help it.<G>
>>

>> I can hear the ZigZag privateer motto: "At Team ZigZag, We're Rolling Our
>> Own"
>>
>
>We're ready to roll & we're going to smoke your butt..

>JR XR 600
> a little light humor

The announcer:

"Well fans, it looks like Team Zig Zag is flyin' high tonight here at
Green Sticky Budds Creek"

David - 99 KTM 200EXC
Email: djo...@cyberhighway.net
Home of the "The Very Unofficial RMD Page"
http://www.cyberhighway.net/~djones/

JD

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Am I the only one who would watch if ESPN2
> put the FIM series on ?

I would too.

JR

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Pony looks strong but a 465?

If you have the muffler and the time, IT465 in a basket.. Jim Hall


A brand new muffler for a mid '80's IT465

Wesley
CT 70 exhaust


JR XR600
complete SP125 '86 with the engine in a box Bullwinkle


Jim Hall <jdh...@plateau.com> wrote in message
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Jim Hall

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"JR" <J...@northeast.ohio> wrote:

>Pony looks strong but a 465?

I don't necessarily recommend it. Strong engine but lousy (compared to
current) suspension.

This one was a parts bike for another 465 that I had. It has never run
in the 10 years or so that I have had it. But it's what I've got...

Pony

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Indeed... please guys, can we remember that I am a stubby little chick who has
NO big strong man around to help her out!!! Anything, from starting the thing to
loading it on a trailer, to picking it up when I dump it (and I will, because I
always do...) is on my own... I've been dreaming 80's and 100's and 125's... :-)
I'm short, and i am not as strong as I was back in the day when I worked on a
horse farm... though I have been thinking of starting to lift.... I wanna look
like Linda Hamilton in Terminator 2... hehehe! (NOW I am REALLY dreaming!!!)

JR wrote:

> Pony looks strong but a 465?
>

> If you have the muffler and the time, IT465 in a basket.. Jim Hall
> A brand new muffler for a mid '80's IT465
> Wesley
> CT 70 exhaust
> JR XR600
> complete SP125 '86 with the engine in a box Bullwinkle
>
> Jim Hall <jdh...@plateau.com> wrote in message
> news:37cdaecc...@news.primenet.com...
> > wes...@otis.arraycomm.com (Wesley Grass) wrote:
> >
> > >. A brand new muffler for a mid '80's IT465 (?)
> > >that I bought to adapt to a CR500 for stealth riding. Suspension bearings
> for
> > >a GSXR750. A stock cam, valves, and rockers for an XR200, maybe even a
> timing
> > >chain, all used but good.
> > >
> > >I got time to rebuild an SP motor too.
> >
> > If you have the muffler and the time, I've pretty much got the rest of
> > a complete IT465 in a basket..
> >
> > The motor would need a rebuild...
> >

Wesley Grass

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In article <37CEE064...@centuryinter.net>, Pony <cen6...@centuryinter.net> writes:
|>
|> I'm short, and i am not as strong as I was back in the day when I worked on a
|> horse farm... though I have been thinking of starting to lift.... I wanna look
|> like Linda Hamilton in Terminator 2... hehehe! (NOW I am REALLY dreaming!!!)

--
She looked MUCH nicer in the first one. I guess I just like 'em sweet and
innocent.

Wes

C5FltEngnr

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Wes
I agree with you. I thought Linda H. looked strung out and terrible in T2.

.>She looked MUCH nicer in the first one. I guess I just like 'em sweet and
>innocent.
>
>Wes


Mark (aka XC Racer)
'99 YZ 250
#567 OCCRA
I pretend to work. They pretend to pay me.

Pony

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Sep 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/2/99
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I meant her muscle tone...I like being strong, and given the choice between skin
and bones and skin and muscle I will pick the muscle anyday... Personally,
(ashamed to admit this...) I liked her best in Beauty and the Beast, the T.V.
show... never missed an episode... :-)
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